Micah Mileto
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On 10/27/2021 at 12:29 AM, James DiEugenio said:
So he also at Parkland Hospital? LOL😘
I don't think its possible to get five aces in five card stud, unless something is wild. And that is the BSer Hugh. How anyone can take the FBI informant seriously these days is just beyond me.
Fred Litwin is beyond everyone. He said about Hugh, the FBI informant who tried to obstruct justice with Manchester, Fred said how it was a blessing on his life to meet him. Here it is in more complete form:
“One of the many blessings of this project was getting to know Hugh Aynesworth … He’s one of the great reporters in America, and it’s been an honor to know him.” ~Fred Litwin
Could Hugh Aynesworth just be a glorified Hugh Huggins?
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On 10/10/2021 at 1:03 PM, David Lifton said:
Sorry, but too much time has passed. I do recall that NOVA was in touch with Dr. Perry; and possibly the producer, Robert Richter would remember. It would be helpful if you could perhaps post exactly what I said. Keep in mind that Perry caught a lot of flack for --supposedly -- saying what he did at that 11/22/63 press conference, at 2:18 PM: 3 times, Perry either said -- or indicated (using hand motions) --that the throat wound was one of entry. (I write about this in B.E.)
Another point: years later, during the HSCA investigation when Dr. Perry was in New York City, Robert Groden showed him the key ("face up") autopsy photo, and sought his comment. Perry was surprised, even aghast, at what the photo showed. Shaking his head from side to side, he made very clear that that did not depict the trach incision that he had made. (I defer to Groden on this point but that's what I remember Groden telling me.) Also note: Dr. Perry, when I called him, was quite specific about the incision that he had made: His incision, he (Perry) told me (Oct. 1966) was "2 - 3 centimeters". (1 inch = 2.54 cm.) Again: see B.E. for my account of calling Dr. Perry.
Thank you. I am trying to gather as much information as possible so I can make a full list of information relevant to the case for an altered throat wound.
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Dr. Lito Porto is still alive, right? And also what about Dr. Donald Curtis, Dr. Gene Akin AKA Solomon Ben-Israel, Dr. Phillip Williams, and Nurse Phyllis Hall?
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Doug Horne and David Mantik both agree that the white spot looks like some brain matter coming out of a small hole underneith it. The HSCA said it just looked like a piece of brain matter lying on top of the hair, no mention of anything that looks like a hole.
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Hope the website business gets sorted out.
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Sounds like it would be referenced everywhere that talks about the medical evidence, but this is apparently a rare piece of media that we don't know if we have any record of. Where is Rick Russo?
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Why are there so many interesting HSCA medical interviews that we still have no digital copies of? One day I can go to DC to scan all of these things but I would need to gather resources first.
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From JFK and the Unspeakable:
Dr. Perry's retraction was not only manipulated but given under stress. He had been threatened beforehand by "the men in suits," specifically the Secret Service. As Dallas Secret Service agent Elmer Moore would admit to a friend years later, he "had been ordered to tell Dr. Perry to change his testimony. " Moore said that in threatening Perry, he acted " on orders from Washington and Mr. Kelly of the Secret Service Headquarters. "555
Moore confessed his intimidation of Dr. Perry to a University of Washington graduate student, Jim Gochenaur, with whom he became friendly in Seattle in 1970. Moore told Gochenaur he "had badgered Dr. Perry" into "making a flat statement that there was no entry wound in the neck."556 Moore admitted, " I regret what I had to do with Dr. Perry. "557 However, with his fellow agents, he had been given "marching orders from Washington. " He felt he had no choice: "I did everything I was told, we all did everything we were told, or we'd get our heads cut off. "558 In the cover-up, the men in suits were both the intimidators and the intimidated.
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555 . House Select Committee witness Jim Gochenaur to interviewer Bob Kelley on Gochenaur's conversations with Secret Service agent Elmer Moore. Notes by Bob Kelley on June 6, 1975; pp. 3-4. JFK Record Number 157-10005-10280.
556. From transcribed copy by House Select Committee on Assassinations of taperecorded conversation with James Gochenaur, May 10, 1977, p. 22. JFK Record Number 180-10086-10438.
557. Author's interview with Jim Gochenaur, April 28, 2007.
558. Moore cited by Gochenaur. HSCA conversation with Gochenaur, May 10, 1977, p. 23. Also Jim Gochenaur's letter to the author, October 23, 2007.
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On 10/8/2021 at 11:24 PM, James DiEugenio said:
Its in the film, The Parkland Doctors.
And like many, Dr. McClelland has struggled to fill in the blanks about the details of the assassination himself. He frequently references one book “of the 32,000 out there” on the event – JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, by James W. Douglass, which argues that military and intelligence agencies in the U.S. are responsible for President Kennedy’s assassination and the subsequent cover-up. According to Douglass, those organizations were upset by JFK’s evolving stance on the Cold War and, desperate to win, they plotted Kennedy’s death because he was “getting in the way” of their plans for a nuclear strike.
For McClelland, that book seems to offer answers to the questions he’s been grappling with over the last fifty years – in particular, why his colleague, Dr. Perry, who also treated the President that day, would never speak of the assassination (“If you ever even mentioned the assassination [to Dr. Perry], he would cloud up and say, ‘I don’t talk about that,’ period.”) If you take Douglass at his word, a Secret Service agent approached Perry shortly after he’d given a description of JFK’s wounds to the media – when he’d pointed to his neck and seemed to imply that the entrance wound was there. That agent supposedly threatened Perry, ordering him never to talk about the assassination again…”or else,” Dr. McClelland emphasizes.
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19 hours ago, Chris Bristow said:
There were so many separate instances of coercion. I wonder if anyone has put that all together in a single Paper, would love to read that.
Let's see, we have how many instances of medical witnesses being coerced against talking...
1. The story of Dr. Perry being stopped after his first press conference by a man in black who said "don't ever say that about, about that being an entrance wound"
2. Dr. Charles Baxter threatening to ruin the medical careers of anybody at Parkland who made a dime talking about the assassination
3. The autopsy pathologists being influenced by members of the military and the Kennedy family
4. The Navy gag order
5. Arlen Specter telling Dr. Ronald Jones about the unidentified "non-credible witnesses" to a gunman shooting from the front
6. Humes, Boswell, Stringer and Ebersole signing the document that said "Humes, Boswell, and Stringer signed a report stating "The X-rays and photographs described and listed above include all the X-rays and photographs taken by us during the autopsy, and we have no reason to believe that any other photographs or X-rays were made during the autopsy" despite claiming to remember other pictures being taken. Ramsey Clark claimed that he started re-investigating the assassination to "get ri of some of the trash" in Josiah Thompson's Six Seconds in Dallas
7. The HSCA's Dr. Charles Petty calling Humes a "god-damned jackass" for not agreeing with their theory of a higher location for the small head wound
8. Gary Cornwell trying to coerce Humes to agree with the same thing
Any more?
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No such video. Sounds like you might be thinking of...
PBS, Nova, 1988, Who Shot President Kennedy? [link 2]
KRON, 11/18/1988, JFK: An Unsolved Murder [link 2] [link 3]
4/6/1991 Dallas conference [video, part 1] [video, part 2]
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The JFK Lancer website is hardly working. Can't buy any DVDs.
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On 10/1/2021 at 9:37 PM, David Lifton said:
On here and in the signet edition of Best Evidence, you mention a 1988 interview of Dr. Perry by PBS Nova. But Dr. Perry does not appear anywhere on that program, and I can't find any reference to such a Perry interview. Is this a garbled reference to Perry's 1992 JAMA interview?
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7 hours ago, David Andrews said:
Doug Horne's alteration paper has been posted on the Forum a couple times lately, but it's worth linking to again, as one of the best-researched of its type. The Clint Hill frames are discussed. Apologies if you've read it, Sean:
We need an ebook version of the 5 volumes of Inside the Assassination Records Review Board that adds all of the updates Doug has talked about before.
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Just now, James DiEugenio said:
Not a problem at all.
McClelland is correct about the first point since he was there. In fact he is the source.
He is wrong about the other point since he was not there.
Is there any chance McClelland is referring to something from Beyond The Fence Line? I have heard him mention that book before. I've never heard of any book that contains this story of Perry being warned.
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On 3/2/2018 at 5:59 AM, David Lifton said:
Starting on the night of November 22, 1963, someone in authority at Bethesda called Parkland, and (apparently) spoke to Perry, and told Perry that he (apparently) was to blame for certain confusion at Bethesda, because of the tracheotomy he had performed
Do you know of any special source for this information?
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On 5/24/2021 at 10:38 PM, James DiEugenio said:
I really don't have to describe this article.
Except, as one will see, I owe the climactic info in it to Rob Couteau and Bob Tanenbaum.
The cover up was being enacted in about 90 minutes. That is how fast they knew, Tanebaum says it was probably an hour, and I cannot argue with that.
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-ordeal-of-malcolm-perry
I just found a 2014 McClelland interview where he says the following, 24:06 in: https://www.parklandsurgical.com/home/2014/7/25/a-conversation-with-dr-robert-mcclelland
Audience member: I read that Mac Perry originally had said that he characterized the neck wound as a quote 'wound of entrance'. And I also know that subsequent to that, to his dying day, he never spoke about it again.
McClelland: He would not say anything to anybody, me or any other- anybody at all, he was just completely- said nothing. Recently I read a book out of all of the some three thousand books that are written about this, and apparently, according to the author of this book, someone had come up to Dr. Perry after he gave his initial testimony- or, not testimony, but initial interview to the many newsmen that were gathered in the grand rounds room at Parkland right after this event happened. And Dr. Perry had made a comment about this being possibly an entrance wound in his neck. And according to this book, and this again is, you know, maybe [inaudible], maybe not. Someone with an American flag in his lapel, you know, you know, you know, Secret Service man, maybe not, came up to him and he said 'Dr. Perry', he said, 'whatever you do, do not ever say that that was an entrance wound again if you know what's good for you'. Other than that, Not only did Dr. Perry never say that was an entrance wound, he never said anything, period, at all about it to me or to anybody else. And he left town right after this event and went down to South Texas where his mother-in-law lived.
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9 hours ago, David Lifton said:
Yeah, Sibert and O'Neill couldn't have stayed any later than 12:00 AM, and we know the restoration of the body lasted until around 3:30 AM. O'Neill couldn't be telling the truth when he described seeing Kennedy laying in his casket fixed up to look like he was sleeping.
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23 hours ago, David Lifton said:
O'Neill had an almost visceral dislike of me, and my book. To maneuver around this, I accepted the offer of a graduate student who, for some reason, had "good chemistry" with O'Neill. So this student was my proxy, when it came to questioning FXO.
Re Agent Frank O'Neill at the George Michael Evica event: No, I didn't learn about that event until some time later. FWIW: I did not know Evica. One reason, I suppose, was that I was located in Los Angeles; he, in Connecticut. I wish I had visited him, on one of my trips "east," to visit my folks. (I ordered his book, but "very late in the game.")
O'Neill was almost certainly lying when he described staying at the autopsy long enough to see the restoration
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2 hours ago, David Andrews said:
Despite what I said 10 years ago (above), I feel like the 1981 Oswald exhumation was thrown to us (in the person of Michael Eddowes) in order to create a negative precedent to be used against a JFK exhumation - a cultural precedent, if not a legal one. A court remembering this might be influenced to feel, "Well, Oswald was exhumed to no demonstrable effect, so why go as far as a president?" An attorney arguing against a JFK exhumation might throw that in as a potent aside.
From that article: "Eddowes believed that after Oswald moved to the Soviet Union, the KGB’s Department 13 (its much-feared assassination squad) trained a look-alike to assume his identity. This deadly body double was the man who met Marina Prusakova at a dance in Minsk, married her six weeks later, and returned to the United States in 1962 with his wife and infant daughter in tow. This was the Oswald who went on to work at the Texas School Book Depository, kill the president, and be killed himself." -- In effect, Eddowes was parroting one of CIA's propaganda lines.
However, there was this intervention attempt by a guy whp always did as told:
"Oswald’s brother Robert battled in court to stop the exhumation, but eventually ran out of emotional and financial resources to continue the fight."
The government itself has acknowledged that the autopsy was grossly inadequate. Forensic science then and now requires a higher standard for the autopsy of a President. There was also the law broken in Texas. The only question is whether this inadequacy was by design to help the lone gunman narrative. We also have solid evidence that members of the Kennedy family were at fault for their disregard towards those gathering forensic evidence. There is enough sworn testimony to present this case, and there is also a lot of juicy information contained in unsworn statements through the past years. It wouldn't actually matter if a new autopsy uncovered no new information, because it isn't really a choice whether or not a new autopsy needs to be done.
This problem is similar to how 9/11 truthers can legally prove, citing stuff like the NFPA standards, that the WTC did not receive a proper arson investigation.
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What is the most legally feasible way an exhumation of JFK could occur?
Also, would it ever be possible for an Oswald to legally demand the official rifle be given to them? You can use the government's evidence against them, to claim that Oswald owned the rifle, but use forensic evidence to establish the lack of basis for calling it a murder weapon. Imagine how much that'd sell for.
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Just now, David Lifton said:
Not clear what you are getting at. Please clarify. Be specific. DSL
From the draft of High Treason 2:
Since he was my partner, I know that his M.O. is denial. Now you see it, now you don't. He has for a long time played a shell game with this evidence. At times I was shown different views of the back of the had. In one of them, there is clearly a line of small black crescents, a half an inch long and a half an inch apart all the way around where he says there is a matte line--just as though a can opener had been operating there. I ask him what that is--"I don't know" he responds. Sometime later he hauls out a picture of the back of the head again, and I can't find the crescents. "Where are the crescents?" "I don't know. You imagined that. There aren't any."
Well, Mark Crouch saw them too.
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7 hours ago, David Lifton said:
Interesting. What about the claim that Groden would play charades with his own personally-altered photos of JFK?
David Lifton teases Final Charade on the Night Fright Show
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by Micah Mileto
Going through BEST EVIDENCE, I was surprised to not see any reference to the well-remembered joke from the 1967 issue of The Realist about LBJ putting his penis inside of JFK's tracheotomy wound. I did not know that joke was so old. This joke seems to have influenced the zeitgeist beyond just concerns about the JFK assassination. The writer even claimed rumors of the story being mistaken for truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Realist
https://www.jstor.org/stable/community.28043511?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents