Paz Marverde

35 minutes ago, Tom Hume said:

Paz

I’ve spent a good deal of the past fifty-four years trying to understand the assassination of my president. We are living under the results of that subversion and others like it today. I truly believe that I’ve come upon an aspect of the assassination that has been overlooked, and I’ve been working very hard on it for several years. You just implied that I’m a buffoon, and I’m offended. 

Tom

If after 54 years the result is an image alluding that the Tower of Pisa somehow killed Kennedy, what a waste of time. Good bye

12 minutes ago, George Sawtelle said:

Paz

Thank you. I understand.

George, you are highly welcome 

23 hours ago, George Sawtelle said:

Paz

Does Michelle believe that Borghese and his friends plotted and carried out the assassination?

Hi, George, and thank you very much for your comment. To believe is something related to faith, religion. What Michele Metta offers, instead, are new evidences. Borghese was an Angleton's man. Thanks again for your comment

14 minutes ago, Tom Hume said:

Serial Number of Carcano: “C 2766”

Numbers in serial number translated to letters using the key at bottom: “C C H G G”

“C C H G G” are the notes to the theme of “O Sole Mio” using the German scale (where “B natural” is called “H”).

The serial number of the most famous Italian rifle in the world plays the theme of the most famous Italian song in the world. 

(A=0)(B=1)(C=2)(D=3)(E=4)(F=5)(G=6)(H=7)(I=8)(J=9)(K=10)(L=11)(M=12)(N=13)(O=14)(P=15)(Q=16)(R=17)(S=18)(T=19)(U=20)(V=21)(W=22)(X=23)(Y=24)(Z=25) 

 

Tom Hume, you can keep on making the buffoon, with comments like this that, first of all, is an insults against JFK, or you can contribute in a smart way. You decide 

1 hour ago, Jeffrey Reilley said:

William Harvey was in Italy/Rome during this time. I would definitely say anything coming from Italy in regards to the assassination should be looked at as closely as possible. Even the use of the Mannlicher as the supposed weapon strikes me as something that the Harvey/Roselli(born in Rome) duo would do.

Jeffrey, I could really not say it in a better way. Thank you very much for your comment. Yes, exactly: not only Harvey was in Rome, but he was planning to stop JFK with every mean. A plan that Harvey was developing with the help of an extremely powerful member of the Italian intelligence: Renzo Rocca. So, thanks again for what you wrote, Jeffrey

17 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Having watched the YouTube video again I can see why it is put drawing attention here. The Italian document is much more interesting.

Thank you

In 1963, president of the Banco di Credito Commerciale e Industriale was Junio Valerio Borghese.  The bank had been the very first one owned by Sindona.  Under Borghese the bank was involved with the son of Dominican Republic dictator Rafael Trujillo, with Franco's government in Spain, and reactionary circles in the Vatican and the Christian Democratic Party. Ultimately the bank collapsed, but someone covered for the inept Borghese.  See Jack Greene and Alessandro Massignani, The Black Prince and the Sea Devils:  The Story of Valerio Borghese and the Elite Units of the Decima Mas (Cambridge, Mass.: Da Capo Press, 2004)

11 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

The article in Italian with the google translation provided by Bart, strange as it is, needs to be read. Perhaps someone fluent in both languages could do a better translation. I have the feeling that Permindex is such old news that we don't even bother to look at the new revelations, which have come at the cost of blood over decades in Italy. I think it's important.

Paul, thanks immensely for you so touching and wonderful words. Bart, thank you very much for your kind effort. Yes, there is this Italian bank, headed by Valerio Borghese, and whose name is Credito Commerciale e Industriale. Borghese was deeply connected to James Angleton, because it was thanks to Angleton direct intervention that Borghese, at the end of WWII, was saved from the death penalty he was condemned due to his fascist past. Ramfis Trujillo gave an enormous amount of money to this Italian bank. This amount, thanks to a nesting box system, disappeared. It was just few time before we find the very same Ramfis Trujillo in Haiti giving his financial support to JFK Assassination. So, putting the dots together, we have a triangulation of money, from Italy to Haiti, and from Haiti to Dallas. I have to stress that before being headed by Borghese, the Italian bank was in the hands of Michele Sindona, a P2 member. There are very strong connections between Sindona and CMC-Permindex members. It's the same CMC Clay Shaw was part of. These are just some of the new information that thanks to Michele Metta we now have. And yes, Paul Brancato is totally right: we need someone fluent in Italian and English at the same time. Unfortunately, I am not. Do you know someone, please?

17 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

I forgot it was in Italian.

i watched the video a few months ago. I think that Garrison may have figured out the key, and that the lengths that people went through to thwart his investigation is an indication of this. Permindex links to Gladio, and Nazis. One of the first things General Walker did was call his Nazi friend Gerhard Frey, who then arranged for a journalist to talk with Walker. This led to the earliest reporting on Oswald being Walker's shooter, and the accusation that Oswald was released from jail the night of the Walker shooting through pressure applied by RFK himself. Seems like they were part of the Oswald smear campaign to me. Of course I don't believe any of these accusations. But their existence leads to some interesting conjectures. 

Italian, yes. I think the importance of Italy is too underrated in investigating JFK Assassination. Garrison did not do this error: he stressed that Permindex-Cmc, established in Rome, is the key to the truth

18 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

I cannot find the article. What is the writer's name? 

Article

9 hours ago, David Andrews said:

Same video as this on YouTube?  (Also linked to on previous thread here.)

 

Yes

Here Metta's article about Credito Commerciale e Industriale

25 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said:

Paz,

I have found the Argosy interview reference to Espaillat online. For some reason Russell deleted it from the reprint in his book.

Here is the pertinent passage and link:

ARGOSY: This connection between people in government and Cuban exiles or other Latin American operatives is amazing. Can you think of anything else along those lines?

HEMMING: The Trujillo thing in the Dominican Republic, back in '61 and before that. There was an American, an ex-Marine, who worked for Arturo Espaillat, Trujillo's chief of intelligence. He got involved in some of the Trujillo operations-the Galindez kidnapping, an attempted assassination of [Romulo] Betancourt of Venezuela, and some antiCastro and anti-Haiti things. All through this, Trujillo was kicking some money in the right direction-to Congressman Cooley, Senator [George] Smathers, and some others. A whole gang of congressmen got real friendly with those people. And this American ex-Marine was the bagman; he could get entree to those people. He did all the English publications that Trujillo sent up to congressmen and wrote pro-Trujillo articles for the Indianapolis Star, which Trujillo also kicked money into. But he knew it was only a matter of time before Trujillo's end. [The CIA helped ensure Trujillo's assassination in 1961.] Espaillat knew the whole scheme, and suggested to his American aide that it looked like Washington was gonna "go all the way," so why not just watch what happened? Esp;iillat tried to take over after the hit went down. He died in an accident in Lisbon a few years ago. His American friend went to work for a private CIA operation in Baltimore called International Services of Information.

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/belligerence/argosy-hemming.htm

And I have found the info on the 1996 Dallas Conference, by Googling "Hemming Arturo Espaillat." The source on Hemming at the conference was Charles Drago. In November 2007, Steve Thomas wrote the following on the alt.conspiracy.jfk forum (oddly he quotes me as citing the source - good for me - unlike my post that we found earlier):

 

From Ron Ecker in the Education Forum 12/06/04:

Could there have been a Canadian connection to the French/OAS plots?

Gerry Patrick Hemming was at the 1996 Dallas in November conference.
In his summary of what Hemming had to say while in Dallas, Charles
Drago wrote, "In Montreal, Arturo Espaillat gathered funds from Canada
and Europe and sent them to Dallas in order to fund a French team"
("Hemming Does Dallas," Kennedy Assn Chronicles, Winter 1996-97, p.
47).

In his HSCA deposition, Hemming said, "I had been in touch in Ottawa
with Arturo Espaillat, who at one time had been part of the
triumvirate that took over when Trujillo was assassinated. One of my
people, (Ed) Kolby, had been in Canada with Espaillat . . . Kolby had
disappeared, let us say, from the Miami scene and busied himself up in
New York and Canada . . . And, now, I had gotten the information that
Espaillat and this American had traveled to Dallas and were in Dallas
that week (of the assassination). Now, this perturbed me considerably
that behind my back everybody I knew was going to meet the Texans" (p.
171-172). (What Hemming was supposedly perturbed about was that all
these people - he named Cuesta, Hall, Sturgis, Vidal, Espaillat, and
Aguilar - were going to Dallas to "burn" his financial contacts, "the
Texans" such as Lester Logue; but he also said he tried to find Vidal
in Miami on 11/21 to warn him "to stay the hell out of Dallas while
the president was there") (p. 167).

Hemming identified "the American" who traveled with Espaillat from
Canada to Dallas as Robert Johnson, who Hemming believed (according to
Noel Twyman) was "Raoul" in the MLK assassination (Hancock, Someone
Would Have Talked, p. 277). Hemming told Dick Russell in a 1975 Argosy
interview, "There was an American, an ex-Marine, who worked for Arturo
Espaillat, Trujillo's chief of intelligence . . . Espaillat tried to
take over after the (Trujillo) hit went down. He died in an accident
in Lisbon a few years ago. His American friend (Johnson) went to work
for a private CIA operation in Baltimore called International Services
of Information."

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.conspiracy.jfk/zSCF6wtuLLs

 

Ron, I can not express how much grateful I am for your message. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

As explained before, this is really important because Metta found a connection with an Italian Bank, named Credito Commerciale e Industriale, headed by a fascist, Valerio Borghese. To that CCI, Trujillo gave an enorous amount of money that, thanks to a nesting box system, disappeared just very few time before his presence in Haiti. Trujillo – it's exactly Hemming who said it, in an interview he made ( SOLARES HILL: J. Timothy Gratz and Mark Howell, The ‘Kill Castro’ business. From No Name Key to Death in Dallas, March 11, 2005 ) – was there in order to financially contribute to the Assassination of JFK:

«Hemming revealed who he believed were two of the “sponsors” of the assassination. Two men met in Haiti in February of 1963 and contributed funds for the Kennedy assassination. Both were from the Dominican Republic. One, Ramfis Trujillo, and international playboy who dated Hollywood starlets, was the son of long-term Dominican Republican dictator Rafael Trujillo, who was assassinated in May of 1961. The second man was Johnny Abbes Garcia, former intelligence director for General Rafael Trujillo. It was not the first time Garcia had financed an assassination. In 1959, Garcia hired American adventurer Alexander Rorke to smuggle eight men into Cuba on one of the first missions to kill Castro.»

Please, consider that, after Shaw's arrest, Garrison found at Shaw's home an address book. In that address book there was the name of a Princess Borghese, who was a relative of Valerio Borghese!

47 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said:

Paz,

Thanks for finding my old post. Although I wish that you hadn't. To answer your earlier question, no I was not at the 1996 Dallas Conference. So I assume the source for my statement was someone's coverage of the conference, but I don't know whose. I'm also puzzled by my own reference to a 1975 Argosy interview. There is an Argosy interview of Hemming reprinted in Russell's book On the Trail of JFK Assassins, but it's dated 1976, and I see no mention in it of Espaillat. Were there two Argosy interviews, one in 1975? I'm sorry to say I don't know. All I can say is I did some lousy posting 12 years ago.

 

 

I do thank you for your kind and sincere answer, Ron. Nice to meet you

Hi, I have Chilean roots, I am friend of an Italian researcher named Michele Metta, I am a deep admirer of Jim Garrison, and my English is not as good as I wish, so, please, be patient about that

As you can see here, you said: 

"In his 1975 Argosy interview with Dick Russell, Hemming identified Arturo Espaillat as Trujillo's chief of intelligence. In his HSCA deposition Hemming stated that Espaillat, based in Montreal in 1963, was in Dallas at the time of the assassination. And Hemming told the 1996 November in Dallas Conference that Espaillat in Montreal had gathered funds from Canada and Europe and sent them to Dallas to fund a French team. 

So what is the relationship between Espaillat and Abbes Garcia, both said by Hemming to be Rafael Trujillo chiefs of intelligence contributing funds for the JFK hit?

Ron"

25 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said:

Paul,

I was not aware of your private message till now, so I'll reply to it here. I don't recall posting on the subject and don't know what the source would have been. I did a forum search on Arturo Espaillat, and found several old posts referring to him, including by Hemming, but nothing by me. I also checked Twyman's Bloody Treason, since Twyman interviewed Hemming extensively, but nothing there on Espaillat.

 

 

26 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said:

Paul,

I was not aware of your private message till now, so I'll reply to it here. I don't recall posting on the subject and don't know what the source would have been. I did a forum search on Arturo Espaillat, and found several old posts referring to him, including by Hemming, but nothing by me. I also checked Twyman's Bloody Treason, since Twyman interviewed Hemming extensively, but nothing there on Espaillat.

 

 

Ron, your statement was in a thread named A Trujillo sponsored Assassination, and for what you said there, it seems you were present at the 1996 Lancer conference. Can you please confirm you were there?

4 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Paz - could you figure out how to post the link to articles? I can't, but someone here can help you. Btw, please introduce yourself to everyone here, since you are a new member.

Hi, Paul. I already said I am Metta's collaborator. I can add Paul and I are friends

On 19/4/2017 at 9:37 PM, Ron Ecker said:

Here's a video apparently produced by MIchele Metta explaining the evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBJdjlWm1k

 

Ron, Michele would like to talk with you, please. Thanks in advance

Hi. Thank you everyone. I am Michele Metta's friend and collaborator. He published new stuff, by the way

Hi. Thanks for posting that video. I am a friend and collaborator of Michele Metta, its author. There are new articles he made, by the way

Hi. We found a big one, about what Hemming said, during his interview, that Ramfis Trujillo was a sponsor for the Assassination, and gave money to finance it. Well, it emerges that, just very few time before, Trujillo gave money to an Italian bank named Credito Commerciale e Industriale. Head of that bank was an Italian fascist, deeply connected with James Angleton: Valerio Borghese. The name of a relative of Borghese was inside a Clay Shaw's address book Jim Garrison found at Shaw's home

Hi. We found a big one, about what Hemming said, during his interview he made, that Ramfis Trujillo was a sponsor for the Assassination, and gave money to finance it. Well, it emerges that, just very few time before, Trujillo gave an enormous amount of money to an Italian bank named Credito Commerciale e Industriale. Head of that bank was an Italian fascist, deeply connected with James Angleton: Valerio Borghese. The name of a relative of Borghese was inside a Clay Shaw's address book Jim Garrison found at Shaw's home

Hi, Paul. Yes, I am very interested too. We found a big one, about this, because Hemming also said, during an interview he made, that Ramfis Trujillo was a sponsor for the Assassination, and gave money to finance it. Well, it emerges that, just very few time before, Trujillo gave money to an Italian bank named Credito Commerciale e Industriale. Head of that bank was an Italian fascist, deeply connected with James Angleton: Valerio Borghese. The name of a relative of Borghese was inside a Clay Shaw's address book Jim Garrison found at Shaw's home

Hi, Paul. Yes, I am very interested too. We found a big one, about this, because Hemming also said, during an interview he made, that Ramfis Trujillo was a sponsor for the Assassination, and gave money to finance it. Well, it emerges that, just very few time before, Trujillo gave money to an Italian bank named Credito Commerciale e Industriale. Head of that bank was an Italian fascist, deeply connected with James Angleton: Valerio Borghese. The name of a relative of Borghese was inside a Clay Shaw's address book Jim Garrison found at Shaw's home