John Kowalski
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1 hour ago, Ron Ecker said:
If that's true, apparently any info on Osborne and the assassins would be in Allcorn's private files, not in the trial transcript.
But then how would Torbitt know what some conspirator told Allcorn off the record?
The real research on the Torbitt document has less to do with its contents as it does with who wrote it. Don't know who actually produced it, but I read somewhere that it was lawyer named Copeland.
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6 hours ago, Ron Ecker said:
Shouldn't there be a court transcript of the Floyd murder trial, to show if there was any such testimony about Osborne and his alleged school of assassins?
I tried to find but could not locate it. Brown County court reporter told me that the original transcript was most likely destroyed but the appellate court, which heard Sapet's appeal might have it.
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13 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:
Yet I must ask again -- WHO WAS THE SOURCE FOR TORBITT?
Paul:
Louis Bloomfield himself had a theory about who was spreading these rumours about him. In a letter to I.G.Alk in December 1979, he suggested that it was Larouche's North American Labour Party. Here is the link to the document.
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13 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:
Yet the FBI to stuck to its story -- because they had nothing else. They would never admit that Lee Harvey Oswald entered and exited Mexico as a passenger in an automobile -- with ACCOMPLICES. So the FBI stuck to their story, and the WC bought it.
Paul:
You made an interesting point about the car and accomplices, and it makes sense that if he did go there in a car, he would not be alone therefore had accomplices, which they would never admit to. But those who planned the Mexico charade, would they not have wanted to create a trail of evidence that would show Oswald going by himself to Mexico? Given that he was crossing a border, which would require him to have a tourist visa that could be traced, require them to have someone on a bus using the name of Oswald, as proof that he went there?
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19 hours ago, David Josephs said:
Does anyone think this OSBORNE is THAT Osborne?
David:
That is a good question and I hope that it can be answered one day. This is why Osborne is such an interesting character to research.
Your points are well made about the bus ride but we know that Osborne was there for at least part of it. Problem is that the only info we have is what the FBI provides, and we all know that they are just as sketchy as Osborne is.
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20 hours ago, Ron Ecker said:
Yes, I'm aware of the Torbitt Document. I was referring to the source of the notion that Osborne was connected to the ACCC. Roberts is the one source I know of.
The Torbitt document also mentions the ACCC as being one of five groups supporting Permindex. It is most likely the source for all of these stories about Osborne being connected to the ACCC, Bloomfield and assassins.
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On 11/29/2017 at 2:05 PM, Paul Brancato said:
This brings up the odd story of the 'wandering bishops' that author Peter Levenda explores, with their possible connections to covert operations.
Read Levenda's books, and the wandering bishops and Ferrie's connection to them is interesting. There is another Canadian involved in the fake clergyman game. His name is Earl James Anglin and an article in the Toronto Star in 1968 written by Earl McRae mentions Ferrie's connection to him. Story is available at the Internet Archive and the story link is below.
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3 minutes ago, John Kowalski said:
There is a book called Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal. The author is William Torbitt, which is a pseudonym.
The book was written in 1970 and it may have been the original source for Osborne's alleged connection to these assassins and Bloomfield's alleged connection to the FBI's Division Five as well as Osborne working for Bloomfield.
John Simkin has also posted on this topic before. The thread is called "William Torbitt: Nomenclatureof an Assassination Cabal."
Here is a link to the Torbitt document that I found at Internet Archive.
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On 11/29/2017 at 8:51 AM, Ron Ecker said:
The only source that I know of is Craig Roberts. In his book Kill Zone, in which he says that Osborne reportedly ran a facility in Oaxaca for 25-30 professional assassins Roberts states that Osborne "posed as a missionary with the American Council of Churches"
There is a book called Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal. The author is William Torbitt, which is a pseudonym.
The book was written in 1970 and it may have been the original source for Osborne's alleged connection to these assassins and Bloomfield's alleged connection to the FBI's Division Five as well as Osborne working for Bloomfield.
John Simkin has also posted on this topic before. The thread is called "William Torbitt: Nomenclatureof an Assassination Cabal."
Here is a link to the Torbitt document that I found at Internet Archive.
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On 11/29/2017 at 11:33 AM, David Josephs said:
Have you considered that OSBORNE/BOWEN was inserted into the story to create another closed off lead?
I have never considered this possibility because his reason for being on the bus still has to be determined. My only assumption about his presence there, and this assumption is based on the belief that he was on the bus because he had a role to play in JFK's assassination, is that he was there to monitor the activities of the Oswald impersonator.
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On 11/29/2017 at 11:27 AM, Paul Brancato said:
John - Could you update us on the Bloomfield papers, perhaps by starting a new thread? I understand many have not been released, but it is hard to keep up with this story, and it sounds like you are up on it.
Paul:
Good idea, I will start a new thread and also upload some of Bloomfield letters and documents so board members can read about his involvement with Permindex and CMC.
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13 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:
I believe that this allegation confirms my suspicion that (1) Osborne was not really a Baptist missionary, but a socially undesirable person.
Paul:
Thank you for your comments.
I now understand what you mean by Osborne being socially undesirable. You make an interesting point abut the radical right, the ACCC and sexual abuse. In this milieu Osborne may have been able to find a place to play the role of fake missionary. Yes, more research needs to be done about Osborne and his connections to these groups.
Have continued my research into Osborne's life but have not been able to determine why the Mexicans wanted to deport in 1964. Have also reviewed all Bloomfield papers that have been released by Library and Archives Canada and have not seen any any connection between Bloomfield and Osborne either. Did find a possible connection between arms dealing and Bloomfield.
If you ever find that source about the KKK, I would be interested in knowing what it is.
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On 11/26/2017 at 1:50 PM, Paul Trejo said:
1. Osborne was not really a Baptist missionary, but a socially undesirable person.
2. Osborne was not really a Baptist missionary, but a CIA agentNow let us ask why Osborne would be barred from entering the USA. If he was a CIA agent, then he would not be barred from entering the USA. Therefore, there is only one option left, and that is #1.
Paul:
I have to disagree with you on a few points. He is not a native of Canada, even though the carried a Canadian passport. He was born in England and spent most of his life in the US and Mexico. He served in the Canadian army from 1917-1919 and I know he did visit Canada. The RCMP investigated him in 1958 for some unknown reason and Osborne himself mentions the YMCA in Montreal and going to Alberta. What is interesting is, how did he get his Canadian passport? He may have obtained it because he served in the Canadian army or maybe he was granted Canadian citizenship.
Do not believe that he was a lonely person. His time spent in Knoxville TN is described in many newspaper reports that showed him involved with people and he was a well known person.
If the Mexican government was going to expel him in 1964, they did not follow through on it because his death certificate mentions that he still had an address in Mexico.
Osborne is a mystery because it is difficult to determine how he earned money after he left the Campfire Council in 1939. He traveled to Mexico, Bermuda and elsewhere and for what reason, it still has to be determined.
As for the KKK rallies and right wing newsletters, what is your source for this?
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27 minutes ago, Michael Clark said:
Thanks John. I tried that. I saw a few blacked out spaces for article links. I tried a few and one briefly came-up with the correct story, then re-directed to this....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-wedding-canada-150-1.4185842
I tried the link, it works for me. Don't understand why it does not work for you.
You should not have been redirected when you arrived at the website.
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it is a video not an article. Where are you located?
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4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
John: Is McKenna the guy who actually advocates for an inside job on 9-11?
He has a brother, Terence McKenna who produced "The Secret History of 9/11." It was most likely him.
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Michael:
Try going to the CBC's website using your web browser without clicking the link. Then enter "The Fifth Estate" once you ar eon the CBC's website.
John
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The CBC's "The Fifth Estate" did a show today about the document release and the Kennedy assassination. They interviewed Jeff Morely, David Lifton and Brian McKenna a Canadian journalist who believed that Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy. The show is available online.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/2017-2018/the-jfk-files-the-murder-of-a-president
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Have found some interesting documents that hint at a connection between Credit Suisse (Canada) and arms dealers. An FBI document states that Anthony Tucci was in Montreal with a letter of credit for $187,000 drawn on a Swiss bank. Could this bank be Credit Suisse (Canada), of which Bloomfield was a director? The document goes on to say that the money was to be used to implement an arms deal.
Could not attach the documents to this thread due to space limitations. The same post can be found at the Deep Politics forum, with attached documents, in the "Michele Metta Permindex docs in Excellent Translation" thread.
The specimen signature document is sourced from the Bloomfield files and the FBI document is sourced from Mary Ferrell. The FBI document's NARA record number is 124-10215-10340. The FBI document is part of the Domink Bartone files, and Bartone is an arms dealer.
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Does anyone know where the documents are that provides the names the board of directors of CMC in Rome and Permindex in Switzerland?
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3 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:
It no longer works. But this may be helpful:
Thanks Douglas.
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On 10/12/2016 at 10:02 PM, Douglas Caddy said:
The CMC-Permindex Papers
This link is broken, does any one know where it is?
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What I would like to know is did the police ask the reporter to speak to Albert Osborne so that he could hear his voice and determine if he was the same person who made the call on the day of the assassination.
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Thanks Tom.
Here is the link for the CIA document on the internet. If the link does not work enter "Assassination of president Kennedy reported anonymous telephone message" in your web browser.
The Dual Life of Albert Osborne
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Paul:
Well said. Torbitt and Larouche are sources of lies that must be disregarded.
I would like to see Mexican government documents regarding Osborne. The challenge of course is how to access them.