Gavin Stone Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Lol, oh Duane, you really do provide classical examples of Logic Fallacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Daman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Oh , sorry you didn't like my reply Gav ... Is this one maybe more to your liking ? We come around to that quite often: Duane - have you done a photographic test of the claim yourself, and if so, would you post the results like other people have? Nope ... I have been unable to get my hands on a pressurised Apollo Space suit with a camera fixed flush to a bracket on the chest . And obviously neither have any of you judging by the examples you all posted here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin M. West Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Lame excuse Duane, a spacesuit is not necessary to take a picture of your shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Greer Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I have been unable to get my hands on a pressurised Apollo Space suit with a camera fixed flush to a bracket on the chest .And obviously neither have any of you judging by the examples you all posted here . Duane You don't need a pressurised spacesuit to test Jack's claims. And I'm sure you're capable of holding a camera steady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Daman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I have been unable to get my hands on a pressurised Apollo Space suit with a camera fixed flush to a bracket on the chest .And obviously neither have any of you judging by the examples you all posted here . Duane You don't need a pressurised spacesuit to test Jack's claims. And I'm sure you're capable of holding a camera steady. It's not a question of me holding a camera steady . NASA's own video evidence rebutts all of your ridiculous claims as to how the Apollo still photography was taken .... Look how the astronot in his pressurised spacesuit , with his bulky camera attached to a rigid chest plate , took the photos . He moved his entire body with bent knees with every picture snapped ... Something that is not seen in any of those faked off centered shadows , or in any of the other Apollo shadows for that matter . ASTRO-NOT PHOTO SHOOT http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=99vuHYhhYdo ASTRO-NOT PHOTO SHOOT 2 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a6KHtxurd5I ASTRO-NOT PHOTO SHOOT 3 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8LWWqkaSIAE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin M. West Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 So how would you see a bent knee in a shadow if the light is coming from behind the photograper? To see the bend in the shadow, the light would have to be from the side wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin M. West Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 New challenge for Duane. Take a picture of the shadow of your own bent knees, with the camera facing forward and roughly level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 He moved his entire body with bent knees with every picture snapped ... Something that is not seen in any of those faked off centered shadows , or in any of the other Apollo shadows for that matter . Sure there are, take a look at this series posted by JACK WHITE in his very silly offset shadow 'study". You are full of nothing but hot air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 To quote our friendly moderator Evan Burton , earlier in this dead horse of a thread ... Duane - as usual you are noise and no substance. Please don't distract the thread from people who are capable of making a contribution to it. So it would appear that any test or opinion I have about this subject is meaningless . No, your testing something would be meaningful. Its your handwaving based on you r ignorance and parroting that is meaningless. since this is an issue that can be proven or disproven with empirical testing you opinion would be meaningless as is Jacks. Give us FACTS. So back on topic...are you going to test and answer the questions that have been put to you? Test ? ... No ... Answer ? ... I already have , but according to your pal Evan , it's only "noise and no substance" and therefore nothing but a distraction because I have nothing to contribute to this issue . No you have not answered the questions at all. All you have provided to day is just noise...mainly "polly wanna cracker?" You could have something of value to contribute if you actually took the time to study the issue ansd perfrom a few simple tests. It speaks volumes about you that you are willing to just believe anything because it fits your warped worldview. Try the tests and learn something. or are you afraid to show your "leaders" wrong? So I guess that only leaves Jack for you to continue to bait .... Good luck with that . Jacks inability to offer empirical evidence in this claim and his refusal to deal with proven objections to his baseless claim speaks volumes about his intellectual honesty. And volumes about yours since you believe him out of hand. Time to step up to the plate Duane...got the balls to find the real truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Daman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Thanks for posting the photos in question again Craig . Like I said before ... We never see any bend to their knees in the still photos like we do in the videos that were allegedly taken at the same time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Nope ... I have been unable to get my hands on a pressurised Apollo Space suit with a camera fixed flush to a bracket on the chest . That is NOT what was required for the challenge posed by Jack: Nobody yet has offered proof that the feet of a standing photographerare NOT directly under his head, and that any shadows of his body necesarily will lead directly to his feet...thus TOWARD THE CENTER OF THE BOTTOM OF AN UNCROPPED PHOTO. They produce tricked up images showing the shadow can point in another direction, but it is impossible, since the shadows MUST POINT TOWARD WHERE THE FEET MEET THE GROUND. Nothing about a spacesuit or bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks for posting the photos in question again Craig .Like I said before ... We never see any bend to their knees in the still photos like we do in the videos that were allegedly taken at the same time . How do you know the kness are not bent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Daman Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks for posting the photos in question again Craig .Like I said before ... We never see any bend to their knees in the still photos like we do in the videos that were allegedly taken at the same time . How do you know the kness are not bent? Because if their knees were bent their shadows would look like this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Greer Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Because if their knees were bent their shadows would look like this . Firstly, the astronaut's shadow is BEHIND him. Secondly, the sun angle is so high that his knee's shadow wouldn't appear in the photo unless he took the camera off the chest-plate and pointed it downward (providing he turned round so his back was to the sun). Thirdly, you can't even make out the shadow of his knees since his legs are in the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks for posting the photos in question again Craig .Like I said before ... We never see any bend to their knees in the still photos like we do in the videos that were allegedly taken at the same time . How do you know the kness are not bent? Because if their knees were bent their shadows would look like this . Thank you for proving once again that your ignorance about all things photographic is at record levels. And to think you silly enoungh to argue about the photographic record, sheesh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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