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From History Matters Archives-WCH, Volume XX---Holly Exhibit No. 5111

November 29,1963

Mr. J.E. Curry

Chief Of Police

Subject: Security Transfer of Prisoner

Sir:

Our Reserve Officer, H.B. Holly, Jr. No. 710 C I, 3429 Antilles, Mesquite, { Texas } informed me this date that he was working Sunday, November 24, at City Hall approximately ten minutes after the shooting of Oswald, and then was sent to Parkland. While at Parkland, he engaged in conversation with another Reserve Officer whose name is unknown to him.

This Reserve Officer told Mr. Holly that prior to the shooting, he either observed, or himself admitted Jack Ruby to the basement. That Mr. Ruby was wearing a press indentification card on his jacket.

Mr. Holly states he could recognise this Reserve Officer if he could see him again. He also states that there was a roster that he himself was on this work roster.

Respectfully submitted,

{Singnature }

A. M. Eberhardt, 1267

Detective

Burglary and Theft Bureau

Does anyone know if this lead was followed up?

jim

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Jim,

From History Matters Archives-WCH, Volume XX---Holly Exhibit No. 5111

November 29,1963

Our Reserve Officer, H.B. Holly, Jr. No. 710 C I, 3429 Antilles, Mesquite, { Texas } informed me this date that he was working Sunday, November 24, at City Hall approximately ten minutes after the shooting of Oswald, and then was sent to Parkland. While at Parkland, he engaged in conversation with another Reserve Officer whose name is unknown to him.

Holly was interviewed by the FBI on December 11, 1963. Here's a copy of his FBI interview:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=149

The name of the reserve officer is not mentioned.

He was also interviewed by the WC on March 26, 1964. You can read his testimony here: (12H261)

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=251735

He said he couldn't remember the name of the Reserve Officer and Leon Hubert asked him if the Officer's name was Newman. Holly didn't know.

The same day, Reserve Officer William J. Newman was interviewed by the WC. He denied telling anyone there at Parkland that he had seen a man coming down the ramp.

When Hubert asked him if the man he had seen coming down the ramp was Ruby, he said,

"Mr. HUBERT. Would you say that the man coming down the ramp was Jack Ruby?

Mr. NEWMAN. No; I wouldn't. By the same token, I wouldn't say that he wasn't.

Mr. HUBERT. In other words, you can't say whether he was or wasn't?

Mr. NEWMAN. That's right. I just didn't pay that much attention to it at the time.

You can read his deposition here:

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/newman_w.htm

Steve Thomas

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Jim,
From History Matters Archives-WCH, Volume XX---Holly Exhibit No. 5111

November 29,1963

Our Reserve Officer, H.B. Holly, Jr. No. 710 C I, 3429 Antilles, Mesquite, { Texas } informed me this date that he was working Sunday, November 24, at City Hall approximately ten minutes after the shooting of Oswald, and then was sent to Parkland. While at Parkland, he engaged in conversation with another Reserve Officer whose name is unknown to him.

Holly was interviewed by the FBI on December 11, 1963. Here's a copy of his FBI interview:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=149

The name of the reserve officer is not mentioned.

He was also interviewed by the WC on March 26, 1964. You can read his testimony here: (12H261)

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=251735

He said he couldn't remember the name of the Reserve Officer and Leon Hubert asked him if the Officer's name was Newman. Holly didn't know.

The same day, Reserve Officer William J. Newman was interviewed by the WC. He denied telling anyone there at Parkland that he had seen a man coming down the ramp.

When Hubert asked him if the man he had seen coming down the ramp was Ruby, he said,

"Mr. HUBERT. Would you say that the man coming down the ramp was Jack Ruby?

Mr. NEWMAN. No; I wouldn't. By the same token, I wouldn't say that he wasn't.

Mr. HUBERT. In other words, you can't say whether he was or wasn't?

Mr. NEWMAN. That's right. I just didn't pay that much attention to it at the time.

You can read his deposition here:

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/newman_w.htm

Steve Thomas

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Jim,

Thanks Peter and Steve!

Would there be a way to access the particular " roster " Holly spoke of ?

I don't know what roster you (he) is referring to, but you might be interested in reading the WC testimony of Captain James Soloman. He was one of the four Captains of the Reserves.

He talks about Holly and Holly picking Newman out as the man who looked most like the Reserve Officer he (Holly) spoke to.

It's in 12H87. Scroll down to page 89.

He said Holly was "confused".

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/solomon.htm

Steve Thomas

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Steve thanks alot for that info about Capt. Solomon.

Looks like another dead end.

Interesting though.

Its funny but the things that people remembered just days or even hours after the assassination seemed to slip away from their memory just a few short weeks after time went by.

jim

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