Everette Lee DeGolyer and the Empire Trust Company

[John Simkin]

Does anyone know if Everette Lee DeGolyer was involved in the Empire Trust Company?

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdegolyer.htm

[Linda Minor]

Does anyone know if Everette Lee DeGolyer was involved in the Empire Trust Company?

What is your definition of "involved"?

The Empire Trust was first chartered to do business in Texas by filing with the Texas secretary of state in 1966, when its address was given as 20 Broad Street in New York; at that time DeGolyer was already deceased. Grinnell Morris was then president of Empire Trust. Certified copies of all corporate documents were submitted to Texas at that time, beginning with the incorporation as McVickar Realty Trust in New York City in 1902. However, an amended dated in January 1963 stated that the president was, at that time, Henry C. Brunie, who had been president at least since 1940. According to a 1937 amendment, the previous president was Leroy W. Baldwin.

McVickar had been set up by land developers in New York in 1902. It merged with Empire State Trust and changed the name to Empire Trust Company. When Baldwin was president in 1934 the address was 120 Broadway. In 1924 the Empire Trust acquired Hudson Trust, and the merger agreement shows that the directors at that time included three members of the Baldwin family, as well as Jules S. Bache, Coleman DuPont and F. Donaldson Brown (connected to DuPont chemical wealth), Minor Cooper Keith (connected to South American fruit company and railroad empire), Alfred P. Sloan, Jr. (General Motors connection, which also overlapped with DuPont family), Percy R. Pyne II (a descendant of Moses Taylor who started National City Bank, which eventually ended up in the hands of James Stillman, whose two daughters married sons of William Rockefeller), William G. Skelly (an Oklahoma oil man), several other directors, and Warren S. Stone.

Stone's life was summarized by Time magazine, which reported his death in these words: " He was a great Labor leader who never called a strike. He was a great Labor leader who proved himself a financier."

Years ago I wrote about the Empire Trust, as follows:

My familiarity with the Empire Trust first arose while studying the JFK assassination. In Dick Russell's book, The Man Who Knew Too Much , at pp. 614-615, under a section called "Origins of the Cover-up" there is a description of a group of Dallas men who surrounded Marina Oswald as soon as her husband had been arrested, but before he was killed by Jack Ruby. These were intelligence operatives seeking out Russian speakers. Ilya Mamantov spoke Russian. A geologist with Sun Oil, he received a call five hours after the assassination from Jack Crichton, who was at that time the president of Nafco Oil and Gas, Inc. and a former Military Intelligence officer then attached to Army Reserve Intelligence. In the footnote following this information (found at pp. 792-93 fn. 14), Russell states:

Crichton background: The 1963 Dallas City telephone directory lists Crichton as president of Nafco Oil and Gas, Inc. A short article on Page 26A of the Dallas Morning News (February 16, 1975) identified him as a "millionaire oilman." Researcher Peter Dale Scott's unpublished 1971 "The Dallas Conspiracy," pp. III-16-17 notes that

Crichton until 1962 "was also a Vice-President of the Empire Trust Company

, a firm whose leading shareholders, the inter-related families of Loeb, Lehman and Bronfman are said by Stephen Birmingham to have maintained 'something very like a private CIA ... around the world' to protect other investments such as in Cuba, in Guatemala, and in General Dynamics." One of Empire Trust's directors was, Scott notes, Lewis W. MacNaughton--the employer of George Bouhe, one of the first members of Dallas's Russian community to meet Oswald.

I had followed Russell's lead and learned more about Lewis MacNaughton, whose partner in Dallas had been Everette DeGolyer, a director of Dresser Industries in Dallas from 1954 until his death in 1956, when he was replaced on the Dresser board by MacNaughton until 1969. Prior to moving to Dallas, DeGolyer, an Oklahoma native, had worked for Amerada Petroleum in New York (where the Empire Trust was located), leaving there to start a geological consulting firm called DeGolyer and MacNaughton. [source: Darwin Payne, Initiative in Energy: Dresser Industries, Inc. 1880-1978 (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1979), pp. 232 and 388.] DeGolyer’s death was reported in a December 15, 1956 Houston Post article, which stated that he "shot himself to death Friday in his Dallas office.... His death was ruled a suicide…."

I then underwent a long chain of research into the background of Everette DeGolyer and his career. DeGolyer founded Amerada in 1919 for Lord Cowdray, real name Sir Weetman Pearson, who had extensive oil interests in Mexico. In 1969 Amerada (1) would merge with the Hess Oil Co. (founded in 1925 by Leon Hess in New Jersey). Hess' wife, Leota, was the daughter of a long-time Houston banker named Joseph F. Meyer and is mentioned in Pete Brewton's book, The Mafia, the CIA and George Bush in connection to the Meyerland Plaza development which Brewton connected to massive financial fraud of the 1980s--much of which he connected to George Bush's friend in Houston, Walter Mischer. In following those clues, I learned that Mischer had acquired his group of banks in Houston from a supposed "wildcatter" oilman named Michel Halbouty. This led me to another new wheel of intrigue, which I hope will serve to enlighten rather than to add more confusion.

The most illuminating book about Halbouty is by Jack Donahue called Wildcatter: The Story of Michel T. Halbouty and the Search for Oil (McGraw-Hill Book Co., 1979). At p. 135 thereof he indicates that Halbouty's funding for his wildcatting exploration came from the Empire Trust in New York. Empire paid 100 percent of the cost of the first well in a new area where Halbouty had explored and acquired leases at his own expense. After discovery, costs of other wells were split evenly; profits were divided fifty-fifty after payout. Both parties, for example, put up about three million dollars for the 1956 exploration program. Empire Trust had the option of non-participation in the drilling of any new area. In another separate venture, Halbouty went to New York to discuss with Empire Trust whether they wanted to participate in that deal on the same terms. They agreed and made a lot of money as a result.

Michel Halbouty was one of the initial investors of Continental Bank, later sold to Mischer. Biographer Donahue at p. 171 described the founding of the bank as follows:

Halbouty . . . was walking down Main Street when he bumped into W.P. (Willie) Wells. Wells was a pretty fair country-boy promoter with heavy banking experience. He was trying to put together the Continental Bank. There on the sidewalk he sold Halbouty a sizable interest. Hardin and Noel also got a piece. Halbouty added to his interest as time passed and owned 30 percent, which turned out to be the largest single chunk, and he became chairman of the board.

Halbouty didn’t enjoy his role at Continental Bank. He was in constant disagreement with the other board members who could, by voting together, win all arguments.

Halbouty sold his stock to Walter Mischer

and

Howard Terry

, a couple of Houston’s entrepreneurs who would place their marks on a dozen profitable enterprises.

Finding this out, I was confused about who controlled the Empire Trust, since the footnote in Russell's book tied control to the Loeb, Lehman and Bronfman family in New York. So I went back to Stephen Birmingham's "Our Crowd": The Great Jewish Families of New York (New York: Dell 1967), pp. 444-45, and found the following:

Thanks to antennae around the world that amount to something very like a private CIA, he [John L. Loeb--the son of Carl M. Loeb, Jr.] completed the sale of the firm’s major Cuban sugar holdings the day before Fidel Castro took over. In 1945 the Loeb and Lehman millions received a new infusion of wealth when Clifford W. Michel joined Loeb, Rhodes. Michel was married to the former Barbara Richards, one of the granddaughters of Jules Bache, and therefore related to the Cahns and the Sheftels and, by marriage at least, to the Lewisohns (to whom the Lehmans, of course, were already related). Another Bache granddaughter was Mrs. F. Warren Pershing, wife of the son of the World War I general, and head of J. Pershing & Company, a rich brokerage house. Then in 1953 John Loeb’s daughter, Ann, married Edgar Bronfman, elder son of Samuel Bronfman, the founder and chief executive of Distillers Corporation—Seagrams, Ltd., undoubtedly the richest man in Canada and among the wealthiest in the world. Bronfman money is not formally a part of Loeb, Rhoades capital, but one of the firm’s partners has said, "He’s a kind of partner who is awfully important." . . . The Bronfman millions, however, have joined Loeb-Lehman and Bache holdings to make up the largest single holding of stock in New York’s Empire Trust Company, **** which has assets of some $300 million. Edgar Bronfman, now [1967] in his middle thirties, and head of his father’s American subsidiary, Joseph E. Seagram & Sons, joined the board of directors of the Empire Trust Company in 1963. . . .(3)

Before Minor Keith's death, in April of 1924 one-third of Empire Trust stock had been sold to another group--the Brotherhood Investment Co.--made up of the union funds of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers (BLE)--a union founded in the 1860's which quickly established a mutual life insurance arm to provide assistance to disabled members. The first contract the union made was with the New York Central Railroad, in 1875. Therefore, after the merger between New York Central and the Pennsylvania in 1967, this mutual insurance company, which was a railroad subsidiary, controlled the pension funds of many of the employees of the Penn Central Railroad. (4) The pension funds were being controlled in 1924 by the National City Company of New York (later Citigroup) and an affiliated bank called "Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers Co-operative National Bank of Cleveland," which had purchased bonds from Speyer & Co. and J. & W. Seligman & Company, advertised for resale in 1924.

The BLE which refused to join the A.F.L., created three parent companies through which it controlled more than 35 banking and investment businesses. The long-time president of the union was Warren S. Stone. (5) In 1922 the BLE established the Brotherhood Holding Company and in 1923 the Brotherhood Investment Company, and later a realty corporation, which investments allegedly fell apart when Stone died in 1925. However, it seems more likely that these funds had already been channelled out into other areas before Stone's death.

The All-America Anti-Imperialist League was formed in 1925 by the Worker's (Communist) Party while Jay Lovestone was its national secretary. Lovestone, born Jacob Liebstein, was forced out of the Comintern in 1929 by Stalin's political maneuverings. By the end of the Depression, Lovestone broke cleanly with the Soviets and, after World War II, founded the Free Trade Union Commission, an AFL-backed movement that organized non-communist labor unions outside of the United States. He also developed an intelligence-gathering unit within the organization that traded information with the CIA until the mid-1960s. During WWII, Lovestone became a spy in the OSS working with labor groups in Germany to feret out Communists, and he became great friends with James Jesus Angleton, according to Persico, in his biography of Casey. Lovestone was working independently under Donovan, along with Arthur Goldberg and William Casey.

Thus it would seem that the Empire Trust was a proprietary of the CIA long before there even was a CIA! In those days, however, the goal was the same--to protect the American economy; to ensure that the value of the wealth of the financial establishment would not suffer a decline because of labor unrest (strikes) or from inflation.

Henry (aka Harry) Brunie was John McCloy's best man at his wedding to Ellen Zinsser in 1930. Zinsser was a sister of Mrs. Lewis W. Douglas, whose husband was from a mining/banking family in Arizona. The sisters, Ellen McCloy and Peggy Scharmann Zinsser Douglas, were daughters of Fredrick George Zinsser. Lewis Douglas was a grandson of James Douglas, the President of the Phelps-Dodge Company, which linked back to the group of New York businessmen around Moses Taylor, who started Citigroup before it was taken over by sons of William Rockefeller, both of whom lived in Greenwich, Ct., where Prescott Bush reared his family.

In DeGolyer's memoirs, Mr. De, he mentions his closeness to the Lewis Douglas family and inquires after their daughter Sharman, who was a close friend of DeGolyer's daughter. When DeGolyer was in Europe, he made a point of visiting the Douglas family in London, where he was ambassador.

The Douglas family had originally gone out to Arizona to manage the mines for Phelps-Dodge, and it was while there they became linked to the James J. Angleton's wife's family, the D'Autremonts. After the death of Cicely Angleton's father, Hubert d'Autremont, William Pyott became president of the Southern Arizona Bank, of which

Lewis Douglas was chairman. Another director was John Greenway, who married Eleanor Roosevelt's closest friend (Isabella Selmes Ferguson), who had previously been married to her Uncle Teddy's best friend named Ferguson. When Elliott Roosevelt got out of the Army Air Force, he was heading out to Arizona to visit the Greenways when he stopped in Dallas-Fort Worth and met the girl he would marry after he divorced his then-wife. She was part of the country-club circle around Amon Carter in Fort Worth. (Incidentally it was the same country club established on land that had been the family home of David Atlee Phillips' mother.) Elliott's daughter later married a banker's daughter from Dallas and Midland who was related to Robert H. Stewart, Jr.--the same banker who hired George H.W. Bush to work for him at First International Bank.

Small world.

What actually linked them together was their desire in 1932 to get rid of Herbert Hoover. They joined together in supporting FDR and helped staff his administration. Lewis Douglas was budget director and helped to plan the repeal of Volstead Act, along with John Raskob, who ran the Democratic Party and funded it, with help from Coleman du Pont. Douglas had worked for the same bank in Arizona as Angleton's father-in-law, the Southern Arizona Bank in Tucson.

[John Dolva]

using De Golver derivation + web ferret :

http://www.losverdesdeandalucia.org/noticia.php?id=3390 (use yahoo babel): a tenuous connection

In spanglish:

"The administration Wilson demands to its allies a policy of doors abiertas East in the middle. British and French accept although no without reluctance. It still is to convince Caluste Gurbenkian. In 1922 Walter Teagle, owner of the Standard Oil, embarks trustingly towards London, but to its arrival he unties the rage of “Mr. 5%”. negotiations will take six years. Meanwhile the Mesopotamia it turns into Iraq and begin the first works of exploration.

It will be known finally what amount of black gold has in the disputed one territory. The 15 of October of 1927, to three in the morning, enormous roar resounds in the desert. Of the well Gurgur Dribble nº 1, appears a so powerful petroleum spurt that is necessary to recruit quickly to 700 man to put dock to him and to avoid that he devastates with city of Kirkouk. Shortage was had in the middle orients first of those gigantic deposits that will be called “elephants”. Against his Teagle will is forced to accept the exigencies of Gulbenkian.

The 31 of 1928 July concludes the agreement: Shell, the Anglian-Persian (future BP), the French (the CFP), receive each a 23.75% of compaía red-baptize Iraq Petroleum (IPC), just like Americans. Gulbenkian, when saving its 5%. becomes on the other hand immensely rich. The participants decide not to realise but in cooperation any oil operation in a zone that agrees with the limits of the late Turkish empire. This “red line” that, safe Iran and Kwait, include all the “elephants” to discover, will be the point departure of the second blow of American force.

When forming part of the IPC, the Americans managed to introduce one point of the spear in the middle East but the British continues imposing the law. It will be this supremacy the one that will manage to be opposed after World War II.

The USA is not satisfied to a part of the cake, try everything. Once again the anguish to pass urges them to shortages. In 1943, Secretary of State, Harold Ickes publishes a titled article: “Us lack petroleum " preannouncing the called theory of the “conservation” - the USA must develop “extra-territorial” reserves with the object to preserve the own ones. Still they produce two thirds (65%) of world-wide production, the set of mesooriente (Iraq, Iran and Arabic peninsula) only provides 5%. But a brilliant geologist >>>Everette Lee De Golver,<<< envoy in mission to the Gulf, returns excited and Roosevelt announces to the administration who the oil balance of world is going to change."

then, if wiki is right and :

"Empire Trust Company was a trust company established in 1902 by McVickar Realty Trust Company in New York,

History

On March 1, 1904, the company was acquired by merger by the Empire State Trust Company, and changed its name to the Empire Trust Company. On February 1, 1913, it was acquired by merger by the Guardian Trust Company of New York and the Windsor Trust Company. On July 1, 1924 it was merged into the >>>>>State Bank of New York.<<<<

On October 6, 1989, it was merged into the State Irving Trust Company and changed its name to the Bank of New York."

then, (wiki again)

"The area now known as Bedford Park was mostly farmland outside the town of Kingsbridge, then an unincorporated suburb of New York City. The area began to be developed with the construction of the Jerome Park Racecourse, for thoroughbred horse racing, by Leonard Jerome and August Belmont, Sr. in 1866. Jerome Park Racecourse became the first home of the famous Belmont Stakes horse race, until 1890. To attract the wealthy to the racecourse, Leonard Jerome built what is today Jerome Avenue. In 1874 the town of Kingsbridge was officially incorporated into New York City.

In 1890 Jerome Park Racecourse was sold. Construction was started to convert it into the Jerome Park Reservoir, to store fresh water from the New Croton Aqueduct. At the same time, the neighborhood of Bedford Park was beginning to take shape. Forty "villas" (suburban houses) were built on a 23-acre (93,000 m2) stretch, in a planned community, named Villa Avenue.

The area became a part of the newly created Borough of the Bronx in 1898. The Italian and Irish immigrants who worked on the Jerome Park Reservoir project soon anchored the community there. In 1906, 200th Street was renamed Bedford Park Boulevard, likely named after >>>>>Edward Thomas Bedford, a director of Standard Oil, president of the Bank of the State of New York<<<<, who was an associate of Leonard Jerome."

[Guest Tom Scully]

Does anyone know if Everette Lee DeGolyer was involved in the Empire Trust Company?

What is your definition of "involved"?

The Empire Trust was first chartered to do business in Texas by filing with the Texas secretary of state in 1966, when its address was given as 20 Broad Street in New York; at that time DeGolyer was already deceased. Grinnell Morris was then president of Empire Trust. Certified copies of all corporate documents were submitted to Texas at that time, beginning with the incorporation as McVickar Realty Trust in New York City in 1902. However, an amended dated in January 1963 stated that the president was, at that time, Henry C. Brunie, who had been president at least since 1940. According to a 1937 amendment, the previous president was Leroy W. Baldwin.

McVickar had been set up by land developers in New York in 1902. It merged with Empire State Trust and changed the name to Empire Trust Company. When Baldwin was president in 1934 the address was 120 Broadway. In 1924 the Empire Trust acquired Hudson Trust, and the merger agreement shows that the directors at that time included three members of the Baldwin family, as well as Jules S. Bache, Coleman DuPont and F. Donaldson Brown (connected to DuPont chemical wealth), Minor Cooper Keith (connected to South American fruit company and railroad empire), Alfred P. Sloan, Jr. (General Motors connection, which also overlapped with DuPont family), Percy R. Pyne II (a descendant of Moses Taylor who started National City Bank, which eventually ended up in the hands of James Stillman, whose two daughters married sons of William Rockefeller), William G. Skelly (an Oklahoma oil man), several other directors, and Warren S. Stone.

Stone's life was summarized by Time magazine, which reported his death in these words: " He was a great Labor leader who never called a strike. He was a great Labor leader who proved himself a financier."

Years ago I wrote about the Empire Trust, as follows:

My familiarity with the Empire Trust first arose while studying the JFK assassination. In Dick Russell's book, The Man Who Knew Too Much , at pp. 614-615, under a section called "Origins of the Cover-up" there is a description of a group of Dallas men who surrounded Marina Oswald as soon as her husband had been arrested, but before he was killed by Jack Ruby. These were intelligence operatives seeking out Russian speakers. Ilya Mamantov spoke Russian. A geologist with Sun Oil, he received a call five hours after the assassination from Jack Crichton, who was at that time the president of Nafco Oil and Gas, Inc. and a former Military Intelligence officer then attached to Army Reserve Intelligence. In the footnote following this information (found at pp. 792-93 fn. 14), Russell states: ....

Thus it would seem that the Empire Trust was a proprietary of the CIA long before there even was a CIA! In those days, however, the goal was the same--to protect the American economy; to ensure that the value of the wealth of the financial establishment would not suffer a decline because of labor unrest (strikes) or from inflation.

Henry (aka Harry) Brunie was John McCloy's best man at his wedding to Ellen Zinsser in 1930. Zinsser was a sister of Mrs. Lewis W. Douglas, whose husband was from a mining/banking family in Arizona. The sisters, Ellen McCloy and Peggy Scharmann Zinsser Douglas, were daughters of Fredrick George Zinsser. Lewis Douglas was a grandson of James Douglas, the President of the Phelps-Dodge Company, which linked back to the group of New York businessmen around Moses Taylor, who started Citigroup before it was taken over by sons of William Rockefeller, both of whom lived in Greenwich, Ct., where Prescott Bush reared his family.

In DeGolyer's memoirs, Mr. De, he mentions his closeness to the Lewis Douglas family and inquires after their daughter Sharman, who was a close friend of DeGolyer's daughter. When DeGolyer was in Europe, he made a point of visiting the Douglas family in London, where he was ambassador.

The Douglas family had originally gone out to Arizona to manage the mines for Phelps-Dodge, and it was while there they became linked to the James J. Angleton's wife's family, the D'Autremonts. After the death of Cicely Angleton's father, Hubert d'Autremont, William Pyott became president of the Southern Arizona Bank, of which

Lewis Douglas was chairman. Another director was John Greenway, who married Eleanor Roosevelt's closest friend (Isabella Selmes Ferguson), who had previously been married to her Uncle Teddy's best friend named Ferguson. When Elliott Roosevelt got out of the Army Air Force, he was heading out to Arizona to visit the Greenways when he stopped in Dallas-Fort Worth and met the girl he would marry after he divorced his then-wife. She was part of the country-club circle around Amon Carter in Fort Worth. (Incidentally it was the same country club established on land that had been the family home of David Atlee Phillips' mother.) Elliott's daughter later married a banker's daughter from Dallas and Midland who was related to Robert H. Stewart, Jr.--the same banker who hired George H.W. Bush to work for him at First International Bank.

Small world.

What actually linked them together was their desire in 1932 to get rid of Herbert Hoover. They joined together in supporting FDR and helped staff his administration. Lewis Douglas was budget director and helped to plan the repeal of Volstead Act, along with John Raskob, who ran the Democratic Party and funded it, with help from Coleman du Pont. Douglas had worked for the same bank in Arizona as Angleton's father-in-law, the Southern Arizona Bank in Tucson.

Linda, I don't know how you do it....amazing, and before Google book search was available !

Why do you think, it was not necessary for Empire Trust to submit corporate paperwork in Texas,

until 1966? Jack Crichton had been doing business out of Dallas, as an Empire VP, for more than

a dozen years, by then....

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Mr....=1&ie=UTF-8

Becomes Vice President Of the Empire Trust Co.

- New York Times - Aug 5, 1953

Mr. Crichton will be in the bank's oil and natural gas department and will represent it in Dallas, Tex. He was formerly vice president and director of ...

I have to thank Clifford Shack's blog entry, http://jaxrevenge.blogspot.com/2007/12/cos...innings-of.html

for some of the following info:

The Chairman: John J. McCloy, the Making of the American Establishment‎ - Page 459

by Kai Bird - History - 1992 - 800 pages

"... (In 1955, McCloy himself began to commute to Connecticut, where he had built a comfortable

but not particularly ostentatious home on a plot of five acres in Cos Cob.)"

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&q=...sa=N&tab=wp

The Chairman: John J. McCloy, the Making of the American Establishment‎ - Page 504

by Kai Bird - History - 1992 - 800 pages

"There was a pool in the backyard which they shared with their

neighbors.

On one side lived McCloy's old fishing partner Henry Brunie, his wife, and their

daughters, who considered McCloy an adopted uncle. On the other side lived Freddie Warburg

and his wife."

The Chairman: John J. McCloy, the Making of the American Establishment‎ - Page 59

by Kai Bird - History - 1992 - 800 pages

"...Wimbledon champion, who was turning tennis into a big-money spectator sport.

McCloy talked up his little victory and won the reputation on Wall Street as the

lawyer who had beaten "Big Bill" Tilden.

On some evenings, McCloy visited Manhattan's flourishing speakeasies in the company

of a pint-sized, somewhat impish little man named Benjamin Buttenwieser.

...McCloy met Buttenweiser in the course of working for Cadwalader on a Kuhn, Lobe

railroad receivership.

"Benny" was five years younger, born, in his own words, "Not with a silver spoon

in my mouth, but platinum."8 He had graduated from Columbia University in 1917,

at the age of seventeen, and had thought he had wanted to become a poetry professor,

his faily persuaded him to work as a clerk-runner for Kuhn, Loeb & Co, the investment-

banking house that rivaled the House of Morgan...

...The New Yorker was founded, and in 1921, the Council on Foreign Relations was created

by a group of New York lawyers and investment bankers. The Council eventually became

a second home to McCloy, but at the time he was still too young to join its ranks.

He was, however, well aware of its activities; his boss, George W. Wickersham,

was chairman of the board. Other, more senior Cadwalader men were active .

The Chairman: John J. McCloy, the Making of the American Establishment‎ - Page 69

by Kai Bird - History - 1992 - 800 pages

"McCloy found another tennis partner at Brown Brothers: Henry "Harry" Brunie, an

amiable but quiet young investment banker.

Brunie was good enough to have played at Wimbledon, and could more often than

not beat McCloy. "I was just as good as he was," claimed McCloy, "but kept my nose to the

grindstone [at Cravath] a bit more."

Another rich young man in this charmed circle was W. Averell Harriman. A few

years earlier, Harriman had inherited Union Pacific from his father, the legendery

robber baron Edward H. Harriman.

About this time, Cravath handled a $13.5-million securities issue for WA

Harriman & Co...

McCloy and Harriman may have met in conjunction with this work, but

more likely they were introduced at one of the many weekend parties hosted

by Lovett or Davison on their Long Island estates. Compared to Lovett, McCloy

thought Harriman a lightweight. Most of the people who worked with Averell on Wall Street,"

McCloy recalled years later, "felt he did not pull his weight, and that he was not too bright...."

"..McCloy was thrown in with this crowd of young investment bankers because their banking

needed Cravath's legal expertise in handling a rising volume of business in European

securities. Prior to World War I, most of Cravath's international work involved representation

of European institutional investment in American securities. By 1919, the flow

of capital from Europe to America was almost completely

reversed. Now American investors were looking for opportunities in European

markets, and they turned to Cravath for legal advice. This new business more than replaced

that lost from Cravath's European clients...."

The Chairman: John J. McCloy, the Making of the American Establishment‎ - Page 64

by Kai Bird - History - 1992 - 800 pages

"In the summer of 1925, McCloy hired William O. Douglas as a Cravath associate.

Though he would someday, as a Supreme Court justice, be known as a populist and

a critic of corporate America, Douglas, upon graduating from Columbia Law School,

decided to try out Wall Street before returing to his native Washington. He chose

Cravath because "everyone there seemed earnest and frank, and not at all pretentious."

McCloy recalled that Douglas "was not on our list" of those the firm was hoping

to recruit from that year's batch of law-school graduates. ..."

http://books.google.com/books?id=MBN3AAAAM...Chester+McClain

The Chairman: John J. McCloy, the Making of the American Establishment‎ - Page 99

by Kai Bird - History - 1992 - 800 pages

"McCloy considered the latter one of the best trout streams in the Eastern United States.18 Douglas was a frequent companion on

these expeditions, as were Dean Acheson, Chester McClain, Chauncey Parker, and

Harry Brunie, all of them bankers and lawyers.19"

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...757C0A963948260

Henry C. Brunie Dies;Ex-Empire Trust Chief

Published: April 13, 1985

"...Mr. Brunie was president of the Empire Trust Company from 1939 until 1963, then its chairman until 1966, when Empire Trust was absorbed into the Bank of New York.

He served as vice chairman of the merged institution until his retirement in 1967. "

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Bru...=1&ie=UTF-8

Becomes Vice President Of the Empire Trust Co.

- New York Times - Aug 5, 1953

"John Alston Crichton as vice president of the Empire Trust Company, was announced yesterday by Henry C. Brunie, president. Mr. Crichton will be in the ... "

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,861005,00.html

Jul. 12, 1954

"...BIGGEST U.S. GAS DEAL has just been signed between Dallas' Oil & Gas Property Management, Inc. and Panoma Corp. of Amarillo, Texas, one of the biggest independent gas producers. O.G.P.M., formed two years ago by Manhattan Bankers Henry Brunie and C. L. Rice Jr. purchased $18 million in Southwestern properties, will buy up Panoma's entire holdings (two gas-extraction plants, 218 gas wells, 133,788 acres of leaseholds) for a total $118 million, pay for it with $40 million in cash, the rest out of production."

Edited January 13, 2009 by Tom Scully

[Robert Walker]

All I know is the man LOVED trains. Our library is stuffed with them.

http://smu.edu/cul/degolyer/about.htm

[Linda Minor]

Linda, I don't know how you do it....amazing, and before Google book search was available !

Why do you think, it was not necessary for Empire Trust to submit corporate paperwork in Texas,

until 1966? Jack Crichton had been doing business out of Dallas, as an Empire VP, for more than

a dozen years, by then....

My guess is that when the trust company was sold to the Bank of New York, one of the attorneys looking over the paperwork realized that the documents needed to be filed. Previously, such requirements were treated more loosely than they are now.

Thanks for your comments about my research. I can't take full credit for this, however. A friend has kept the research I did back in 2000 on her website for almost nine years now, and Russ Baker happened to see it. Since I'm probably the only person who has ever been literally obsessed with understanding the Empire Trust, Russ emailed me about it for further information. He actually obtained all the documents from the Texas secretary of state's office and forwarded them to me to analyze, since I spent many years as an attorney writing title opinions about real estate matters. Much research went into his book that had to be boiled down and condensed in order to get it out to a wider readership than just researchers; most people's eyes glaze over when they see all these names which mean nothing to them.

In answer to John's question about DeGolyer, I suspect it was through this family, social, and business relationship that existed between Brunie and McCloy and Lewis Douglas that caused them to seek out DeGolyer, who was THE authority on petroleum geology from way back, particularly as a result of his work for Viscount Cowdray, who sold out to Shell in the days when the British Government was heavily invested in private industry. Cowdray aka Sir Weetman Pearson also had bought control of Lazard Freres' English operations and invested heavily in British newspapers. By the time DeGolyer left Pearson's Mexican oil company to start his own consulting firm with Lewis MacNaughton, he was also called in by FDR's administration to help set up the oil consortium in Saudia Arabia.

Involved in the Saudi consortium was a man named Ralph K. Davies, who had been deputy petroleum coordinator and a member of the Mission to London to negotiate the Anglo American oil treaty and a special consultant to Secretary Harold Ickes. As president and director of American Independent Oil Co. (Aminoil) beginning in 1947 (under Truman), and of its Mexican subsidiary in 1949, he joined with Signal Oil and Edwin Pauley in signing the first "service contract" with Pemex, an oil company owned by the government of Mexico on March 5, 1949.

Everette DeGolyer disclosed the terms of the contract with Pemex in a letter he wrote to Ambassador Lewis Douglas (quoted in Lon Tinkle, Mr. De: A Biography of Everette Lee DeGolyer at pages 325-26). During that same time a syndicate called Aminoil--a consortium composed of two individuals, Ralph K. Davies, a California lawyer and former Standard Oil of California (Socal) vice president, and James S. Abercrombie, a Houston oilman, and eight oil corporations was also heavily involved in explorations in the Middle East (according to Leonard Mosley in his book Power Play: Oil in the Middle East) .

Possibly because of the closeness between DeGolyer and Ambassador Douglas, whose wife was the sister of John McCloy's wife, as well as McCloy's close friendship with Brunie, the Empire Trust decided to invest in Texas oil, as evidenced by Michel Halbouty's being financed by Empire Trust.

The question in my mind is how Stephen Birmingham tied all that into the Bronfmans and Seagrams and called it a private CIA.

[John Simkin]

Thanks for your comments about my research. I can't take full credit for this, however. A friend has kept the research I did back in 2000 on her website for almost nine years now, and Russ Baker happened to see it.

Is this the website? I just came across it while looking for information about Lewis MacNaughton.

http://www.demac.com/dochistory.htm

[Nathaniel Heidenheimer]

Linda, I must echo: Incredible work! Thanks for sharing it. Everyone this is must reading in case you haven't seen it yet.

[Robert Howard]

Linda, I must echo: Incredible work! Thanks for sharing it. Everyone this is must reading in case you haven't seen it yet.

A parallel to what Linda Minor has posted, would be portions of Ferdinand Lundberg's book The Rich and The Super-Rich. Ostensibly, the bible of analysis of the corporate world and its corresponding linkage to big oil and ersatz ruling families, under consideration.

See

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZnhkAAAAI...p;q=&pgis=1

Appendix B on page 752, which appears to include information from Fortune magazine circa 1965, reporting on 1964 perfomances, which would compliment this thread exceptionally well.

Not to mention Lundberg's look into Rep. Wright Patnam's Congressional Committee's Findings on Foundations.

A detailed analysis of this aspect of the financial world of philanthropies, foundations and the conduit which leads to the seldom detailed linkage of what were once considered robber-barons into other affairs extending into equally interesting persons known to all.

Some postulate said monies could arguably have been used as a means largesse of financing nefarious goings on, but then there is the equally subterrainean factor of Nazi-gold.

[Guest Tom Scully]

Linda, I must echo: Incredible work! Thanks for sharing it. Everyone this is must reading in case you haven't seen it yet.

A parallel to what Linda Minor has posted, would be portions of Ferdinand Lundberg's book The Rich and The Super-Rich. Ostensibly, the bible of analysis of the corporate world and its corresponding linkage to big oil and ersatz ruling families, under consideration.

See

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZnhkAAAAI...p;q=&pgis=1

Appendix B on page 752, which appears to include information from Fortune magazine circa 1965, reporting on 1964 perfomances, which would compliment this thread exceptionally well.

Not to mention Lundberg's look into Rep. Wright Patnam's Congressional Committee's Findings on Foundations.

A detailed analysis of this aspect of the financial world of philanthropies, foundations and the conduit which leads to the seldom detailed linkage of what were once considered robber-barons into other affairs extending into equally interesting persons known to all.

Some postulate said monies could arguably have been used as a means largesse of financing nefarious goings on, but then there is the equally subterrainean factor of Nazi-gold.

Robert, if you approach the JFK assassination from a "duel of the titans" perspective, the 1957 print media coverage of "the 76 families", is at the heart of Lundberg's 25 years of research (at that time...).

The Rich & the Super Rich: A Study in the Power of Money Today‎ - Page 173

by Ferdinand Lundberg, Peter Wilsher - Capitalists and financiers - 1968 - 504 pages

"Kennedy, even with no war providing an excuse for a coalition, awarded his chief Cabinet posts to Republicans from the camp of big wealth. ..."

Henry Crown was inexplicably omitted from the group, but, as the info in the 1952 Time article linked below indicates, he should have been included in the group of the wealthiest 76.

The wiki descriptions of "the 76" are most telling, in that Joseph Kennedy, in the $200 million net worth category, and Henry Crown, were the rare exceptions in that both their fortunes were not inherited:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealthiest_Americans_(1957)

In 1957 Fortune Magazine developed a list of the seventy-six wealthiest Americans; the list was republished in many American newspapers. The primary source of wealth was indicated as being inherited or stemming from a particular business or industry. For fortunes derived from oil, the list used “bankers valuation” of what a person might pay for assets rather than the valuation of proven oil reserves.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,806573,00.html

Midwest Midas - TIME

Midwest Midas. Monday, Nov. 03, 1952 ... Henry Crown is a fast-moving, fast- thinking Chicagoan who has made $50 million in the last 30 years and has thereby ...

One tiny community, Jupiter Island in Hobe Sound, FL, gave us the OSS, and the A Bomb and H Bomb via Du Ponr bros. lawyer, Bill Donovan, and their Dupont president and CEO, Jupiter Island resident, Walter S. Carpenter, as well as this "cast of characters:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,901376,00.html

Sep. 05, 1969

Died. Ailsa Mellon Bruce, 66, daughter of Aluminum Tycoon Andrew Mellon, and long regarded as the nation's richest woman; in Manhattan. Over the years, Mrs. Bruce (she married Career Diplomat David Bruce in 1926; they were divorced in 1945)

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=I8MNA...n+bruce+missing

Cruiser, More Plane Join Search For Mellon .

St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive - Jan 20, 1967Carib bean for missing American heiress Mrs. Audrey Bruce Cur rier and her ... Mrs. Cur rier is the only child of Mrs. Ailsa Mellon Bruce, possessor of a ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=dil...=1&ie=UTF-8

BOOK CHRONICLES JUPITER ISLAND'S RICH AND FAMOUS

Pay-Per-View - Palm Beach Post - NewsBank - Sep 6, 1990That Jupiter Island has had such big names as Mellon, Marshall Field, du Pont, Harriman, Whitney, Ford, Duke, Doubleday, Heinz, Dillon and Rockefeller on ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Dillon

In 1957, Fortune Magazine listed Dillon as one of the richest men in the United States, with a fortune then estimated to be from $150 to $200 million.

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=lov...=1&ie=UTF-8

Jupiter Island Xanadu

Forbes - Oct 18, 2004Since the 1930s, the community known as Jupiter Island as been attracting ... President Truman's Secretary of Defense Robert A. Lovett, Secretary of the ...

....the cold war, both Bush presidencies, and the now perpetual US, right wing orientation, perceived somehow as "centrist"!

Edited January 18, 2009 by Tom Scully

[Robert Howard]

Linda, I must echo: Incredible work! Thanks for sharing it. Everyone this is must reading in case you haven't seen it yet.

A parallel to what Linda Minor has posted, would be portions of Ferdinand Lundberg's book The Rich and The Super-Rich. Ostensibly, the bible of analysis of the corporate world and its corresponding linkage to big oil and ersatz ruling families, under consideration.

See

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZnhkAAAAI...p;q=&pgis=1

Appendix B on page 752, which appears to include information from Fortune magazine circa 1965, reporting on 1964 perfomances, which would compliment this thread exceptionally well.

Not to mention Lundberg's look into Rep. Wright Patnam's Congressional Committee's Findings on Foundations.

A detailed analysis of this aspect of the financial world of philanthropies, foundations and the conduit which leads to the seldom detailed linkage of what were once considered robber-barons into other affairs extending into equally interesting persons known to all.

Some postulate said monies could arguably have been used as a means largesse of financing nefarious goings on, but then there is the equally subterrainean factor of Nazi-gold.

Robert, if you approach the JFK assassination from a "duel of the titans" perspective, the 1957 print media coverage of "the 76 families", is at the heart of Lundberg's 25 years of research (at that time...).

The Rich & the Super Rich: A Study in the Power of Money Today‎ - Page 173

by Ferdinand Lundberg, Peter Wilsher - Capitalists and financiers - 1968 - 504 pages

"Kennedy, even with no war providing an excuse for a coalition, awarded his chief Cabinet posts to Republicans from the camp of big wealth. ..."

Henry Crown was inexplicably omitted from the group, but, as the info in the 1952 Time article linked below indicates, he should have been included in the group of the wealthiest 76.

The wiki descriptions of "the 76" are most telling, in that Joseph Kennedy, in the $200 million net worth category, and Henry Crown, were the rare exceptions in that both their fortunes were not inherited:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealthiest_Americans_(1957)

In 1957 Fortune Magazine developed a list of the seventy-six wealthiest Americans; the list was republished in many American newspapers. The primary source of wealth was indicated as being inherited or stemming from a particular business or industry. For fortunes derived from oil, the list used “bankers valuation” of what a person might pay for assets rather than the valuation of proven oil reserves.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,806573,00.html

Midwest Midas - TIME

Midwest Midas. Monday, Nov. 03, 1952 ... Henry Crown is a fast-moving, fast- thinking Chicagoan who has made $50 million in the last 30 years and has thereby ...

One tiny community, Jupiter Island in Hobe Sound, FL, gave us the OSS, and the A Bomb and H Bomb via Du Ponr bros. lawyer, Bill Donovan, and their Dupont president and CEO, Jupiter Island resident, Walter S. Carpenter, as well as this "cast of characters:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,901376,00.html

Sep. 05, 1969

Died. Ailsa Mellon Bruce, 66, daughter of Aluminum Tycoon Andrew Mellon, and long regarded as the nation's richest woman; in Manhattan. Over the years, Mrs. Bruce (she married Career Diplomat David Bruce in 1926; they were divorced in 1945)

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=I8MNA...n+bruce+missing

Cruiser, More Plane Join Search For Mellon .

St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive - Jan 20, 1967Carib bean for missing American heiress Mrs. Audrey Bruce Cur rier and her ... Mrs. Cur rier is the only child of Mrs. Ailsa Mellon Bruce, possessor of a ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=dil...=1&ie=UTF-8

BOOK CHRONICLES JUPITER ISLAND'S RICH AND FAMOUS

Pay-Per-View - Palm Beach Post - NewsBank - Sep 6, 1990That Jupiter Island has had such big names as Mellon, Marshall Field, du Pont, Harriman, Whitney, Ford, Duke, Doubleday, Heinz, Dillon and Rockefeller on ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Dillon

In 1957, Fortune Magazine listed Dillon as one of the richest men in the United States, with a fortune then estimated to be from $150 to $200 million.

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=lov...=1&ie=UTF-8

Jupiter Island Xanadu

Forbes - Oct 18, 2004Since the 1930s, the community known as Jupiter Island as been attracting ... President Truman's Secretary of Defense Robert A. Lovett, Secretary of the ...

....the cold war, both Bush presidencies, and the now perpetual US, right wing orientation, perceived somehow as "centrist"!

Thank's for that little factoid, actually the motivation to scour the book was to see if there was any mention of the Empire Trust Company, which there did not appear to be.

Google search pulls up a great deal of references to that Company, but the majority of those hits are from very early on, circa 1905-20.

Although, this is off the beaten path, I researched a Philadelphia lawyer named Arthur W.A. Cowan and the reason I mention it, is because he apparently knew Del Webb, who was at one time a part? owner of the New York Yankee's and while one would think that being an owner of the Yankees might lead one to assume he would have had a pristine background morally speaking, but after Webb died it was revealed he had connections with organized crime. Another interesting aspect about Cowan was his involvement with a couple of foundations, it was then that I started learning about some of the oldest foundations in the U.S., one of them being the Russell Sage Foundation, which appears to be the pre-eminent Foundation of the early years of the fledgling New Republic, for what it's worth.

Then there is the following, which may be helpful.

"Moreover, as one begins digging deeper into the defence contractor, General Dynamics, one is confronted by a most unusual entity by the name of Empire Trust Co., which has been likened to a “private CIA” who’s shareholders used it to protect their business interests around the world. These included interests in Cuba, Guatemala and in “General Dynamics.” Empire Trust later merged into the Bank of New York, but in its earlier years it was a vehicle – at least in part - for the Smiths, the Scottish banking family. This is not the place to go into greater detail about Empire Trust (which I hope to do at another time) but suffice it to say that one internationally known individual, Lord Peter Carrington, is of the Smith banking family. Lord Carrington’s name was once purloined and used as the hero in a play entitled “Rescuing Rosebud.” Interestingly, the Empire Trust can also be connected to Citigroup.

But the connections just keep on happening. It is known that Colonel Crown was connected to a number of Texan businessmen, including Robert B. Anderson who would later become Secretary of the Treasury. Anderson was, moreover, one of the central figures in setting up the Black Eagle gold trusts using gold plundered by the Axis during WWII – and had accompanied Ed Lansdale to Tokyo in 1945, when Lansdale reported to General MacArthur – his boss – on all the loot that he and Santa Romana had uncovered in the Philippines.[16] [17] Not least, two of Santa Romana’s “front companies” used by him for the deposit of plundered WWII bullion just happen to have the name “Crown” in their title: Crown Commodity Holding International, and just plain Crown International. Stranger still, is the fact that for many years, Santa Romana lived in a suite at the Hilton Hotel in Manila.

Meanwhile, a brief review of White & Case’s client list tell us that they also represented the First National Bank (the forerunner of Citibank), Astor Trust Company,[18] Prudential, J P Morgan & Co., Saudi Aramco, Swiss Bank Corporation and Seagram Company Ltd. of Canada, controlled by the Bronfman family (regarded by some as the kings of the Canadian mafia).[19] But White & Case’s most “enduring” client is Bankers Trust Company, a J P Morgan controlled bank, which the law firm was “centrally involved” in forming back in 1903.

The ancestor of all trust companies is England’s Foreign & Colonial Investment Trust, which dates back to 1868 and was conceived by one of the foremost legal minds of the day, Lord Westbury. The current Lord Westbury, Richard Bethell, will appear later in this story."

taken from....Project Hammer Reloaded - The Ties That Bind by David Guyatt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopol...reloaded_pf.htm

Which leads me to take a stab in the dark; There is an article by a JFK researcher on mary ferrell's site in which there was some research into Clay Shaw's English connections, that might make for some interesting reading.

Edited January 19, 2009 by Robert Howard

[Robert Howard]

Linda, I must echo: Incredible work! Thanks for sharing it. Everyone this is must reading in case you haven't seen it yet.

A parallel to what Linda Minor has posted, would be portions of Ferdinand Lundberg's book The Rich and The Super-Rich. Ostensibly, the bible of analysis of the corporate world and its corresponding linkage to big oil and ersatz ruling families, under consideration.

See

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZnhkAAAAI...p;q=&pgis=1

Appendix B on page 752, which appears to include information from Fortune magazine circa 1965, reporting on 1964 perfomances, which would compliment this thread exceptionally well.

Not to mention Lundberg's look into Rep. Wright Patnam's Congressional Committee's Findings on Foundations.

A detailed analysis of this aspect of the financial world of philanthropies, foundations and the conduit which leads to the seldom detailed linkage of what were once considered robber-barons into other affairs extending into equally interesting persons known to all.

Some postulate said monies could arguably have been used as a means largesse of financing nefarious goings on, but then there is the equally subterrainean factor of Nazi-gold.

Robert, if you approach the JFK assassination from a "duel of the titans" perspective, the 1957 print media coverage of "the 76 families", is at the heart of Lundberg's 25 years of research (at that time...).

The Rich & the Super Rich: A Study in the Power of Money Today‎ - Page 173

by Ferdinand Lundberg, Peter Wilsher - Capitalists and financiers - 1968 - 504 pages

"Kennedy, even with no war providing an excuse for a coalition, awarded his chief Cabinet posts to Republicans from the camp of big wealth. ..."

Henry Crown was inexplicably omitted from the group, but, as the info in the 1952 Time article linked below indicates, he should have been included in the group of the wealthiest 76.

The wiki descriptions of "the 76" are most telling, in that Joseph Kennedy, in the $200 million net worth category, and Henry Crown, were the rare exceptions in that both their fortunes were not inherited:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealthiest_Americans_(1957)

In 1957 Fortune Magazine developed a list of the seventy-six wealthiest Americans; the list was republished in many American newspapers. The primary source of wealth was indicated as being inherited or stemming from a particular business or industry. For fortunes derived from oil, the list used “bankers valuation” of what a person might pay for assets rather than the valuation of proven oil reserves.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,806573,00.html

Midwest Midas - TIME

Midwest Midas. Monday, Nov. 03, 1952 ... Henry Crown is a fast-moving, fast- thinking Chicagoan who has made $50 million in the last 30 years and has thereby ...

One tiny community, Jupiter Island in Hobe Sound, FL, gave us the OSS, and the A Bomb and H Bomb via Du Ponr bros. lawyer, Bill Donovan, and their Dupont president and CEO, Jupiter Island resident, Walter S. Carpenter, as well as this "cast of characters:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,901376,00.html

Sep. 05, 1969

Died. Ailsa Mellon Bruce, 66, daughter of Aluminum Tycoon Andrew Mellon, and long regarded as the nation's richest woman; in Manhattan. Over the years, Mrs. Bruce (she married Career Diplomat David Bruce in 1926; they were divorced in 1945)

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=I8MNA...n+bruce+missing

Cruiser, More Plane Join Search For Mellon .

St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive - Jan 20, 1967Carib bean for missing American heiress Mrs. Audrey Bruce Cur rier and her ... Mrs. Cur rier is the only child of Mrs. Ailsa Mellon Bruce, possessor of a ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=dil...=1&ie=UTF-8

BOOK CHRONICLES JUPITER ISLAND'S RICH AND FAMOUS

Pay-Per-View - Palm Beach Post - NewsBank - Sep 6, 1990That Jupiter Island has had such big names as Mellon, Marshall Field, du Pont, Harriman, Whitney, Ford, Duke, Doubleday, Heinz, Dillon and Rockefeller on ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Dillon

In 1957, Fortune Magazine listed Dillon as one of the richest men in the United States, with a fortune then estimated to be from $150 to $200 million.

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=lov...=1&ie=UTF-8

Jupiter Island Xanadu

Forbes - Oct 18, 2004Since the 1930s, the community known as Jupiter Island as been attracting ... President Truman's Secretary of Defense Robert A. Lovett, Secretary of the ...

....the cold war, both Bush presidencies, and the now perpetual US, right wing orientation, perceived somehow as "centrist"!

Thank's for that little factoid, actually the motivation to scour the book was to see if there was any mention of the Empire Trust Company, which there did not appear to be.

Google search pulls up a great deal of references to that Company, but the majority of those hits are from very early on, circa 1905-20.

Although, this is off the beaten path, I researched a Philadelphia lawyer named Arthur W.A. Cowan and the reason I mention it, is because he apparently knew Del Webb, who was at one time a part? owner of the New York Yankee's and while one would think that being an owner of the Yankees might lead one to assume he would have had a pristine background morally speaking, but after Webb died it was revealed he had connections with organized crime. Another interesting aspect about Cowan was his involvement with a couple of foundations, it was then that I started learning about some of the oldest foundations in the U.S., one of them being the Russell Sage Foundation, which appears to be the pre-eminent Foundation of the early years of the fledgling New Republic, for what it's worth.

Then there is the following, which may be helpful.

"Moreover, as one begins digging deeper into the defence contractor, General Dynamics, one is confronted by a most unusual entity by the name of Empire Trust Co., which has been likened to a “private CIA” who’s shareholders used it to protect their business interests around the world. These included interests in Cuba, Guatemala and in “General Dynamics.” Empire Trust later merged into the Bank of New York, but in its earlier years it was a vehicle – at least in part - for the Smiths, the Scottish banking family. This is not the place to go into greater detail about Empire Trust (which I hope to do at another time) but suffice it to say that one internationally known individual, Lord Peter Carrington, is of the Smith banking family. Lord Carrington’s name was once purloined and used as the hero in a play entitled “Rescuing Rosebud.” Interestingly, the Empire Trust can also be connected to Citigroup.

But the connections just keep on happening. It is known that Colonel Crown was connected to a number of Texan businessmen, including Robert B. Anderson who would later become Secretary of the Treasury. Anderson was, moreover, one of the central figures in setting up the Black Eagle gold trusts using gold plundered by the Axis during WWII – and had accompanied Ed Lansdale to Tokyo in 1945, when Lansdale reported to General MacArthur – his boss – on all the loot that he and Santa Romana had uncovered in the Philippines.[16] [17] Not least, two of Santa Romana’s “front companies” used by him for the deposit of plundered WWII bullion just happen to have the name “Crown” in their title: Crown Commodity Holding International, and just plain Crown International. Stranger still, is the fact that for many years, Santa Romana lived in a suite at the Hilton Hotel in Manila.

Meanwhile, a brief review of White & Case’s client list tell us that they also represented the First National Bank (the forerunner of Citibank), Astor Trust Company,[18] Prudential, J P Morgan & Co., Saudi Aramco, Swiss Bank Corporation and Seagram Company Ltd. of Canada, controlled by the Bronfman family (regarded by some as the kings of the Canadian mafia).[19] But White & Case’s most “enduring” client is Bankers Trust Company, a J P Morgan controlled bank, which the law firm was “centrally involved” in forming back in 1903.

The ancestor of all trust companies is England’s Foreign & Colonial Investment Trust, which dates back to 1868 and was conceived by one of the foremost legal minds of the day, Lord Westbury. The current Lord Westbury, Richard Bethell, will appear later in this story."

taken from....Project Hammer Reloaded - The Ties That Bind by David Guyatt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopol...reloaded_pf.htm

Which leads me to take a stab in the dark; There is an article by a JFK researcher on mary ferrell's site in which there was some research into Clay Shaw's English connections, that might make for some interesting reading.

I found that there is an interesting backdrop to some of the names on this thread, see

the following; ironically there is a section titled, Rampant Individualism in the State Of Texas.

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IN THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS

WILLIAM RANSOM HOGAN

The Life of Colonel R. T. Milner .... Rosalind Langston

"The Alamo".... Maury Maverick

Memories of a Texas Land Commissioner,

W. C. Walsh.... Contributed by

Charles W. Ramsdell, Jr.

Foreword by J. F. Clark

Texas Collection .... Walter Prescott Webb

Affairs of the Association

Book Reviews

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Index

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Davidson, Mr. W. S.

Dealey, Mr. George B.

Deussen, Mr. Alexander

Dilworth, Mr. Thomas G.

Donaldson, Mrs. Nanna Smithwick

Donoghue, Mr. David

Driscoll, Mrs. Clara

Edwards, Mrs. Lillian Owens

Farrish, Mr. W. S.

Fortman, Mr. Henry F.

Gilbert, Mr. Harvey Wilbarger

Gilbert, Mr. John N.

Gleason, Rev. Joseph M.

Graves, Mr. Ireland

Gutsch, Mr. Milton R.

Hanrick, Mr. R. A.

Harris, Mr. Beverly D.

Hefley, Mr. W. T.

Hill, Dr. Robert T.

Hutcheson, Judge J. C., Jr.

Hyde, Mr. James H.

Jones, Mr. Roland

Kell, Mr. Frank

Magruder, Mrs. Hamilton

Maresh, Dr. Henry R.

Milbry, Mrs. C. H.

Moody, Col. W. L.

Moore, Mrs. John M.

Morehead, Mr. C. R.

Morris, Mr. J. S.

Parten, Mr. J. R.

Pew, Mr. John G.

Powell, Miss Anna

Randall, Dr. Edward

Scarbrough, Mr. and Mrs. Lem

Schmidt, Mr. John

Sinclair, Mr. J. L.

Staiti, Mrs. H. T.

Stone, Mr. Hugh Lamar

Streeter, Mr. Thomas

Tenney, Rev. S. M.

Thompson, Mr. Brooks

Timm, Mr. C. A.

Todd, Mr. Chas. S.

Waggener, Mr. Leslie

Walker, Mr. J. A.

Webb, Mr. Mack

West, Miss Elizabeth

Willacy, Mr. John G.

Williams, Judge O. W.

Williamson, Judge J. D.

Young, Mr. Eldon

Kenyon College

PATRONS AND SUSTAINING MEMBERS

Patrons contribute to the work of the Association $500, payable over a

period of five years; Sustaining Members $250. The List of Patrons and

Sustaining Members follows:

Barker, Mr. Euene C.

Blaffer, Mr. R. L.

Clayton, Mr. W. L.

De Golyer, Mr. E.

Denman, Mr. Leßoy

Francis, Mr. W. H.

Hager, Mr. Dilworth S.

Hill, Mr. George A., Jr.

Hughes, Mr. J. K.

Hutcheson, Mr. Palmer

Karcher, Mr. J. C.

Maercky, Mr. P. George

Perry, Mrs. Hallie Bryan

Russ, Mr. Leon F.

Moss, Mr. H. S.

Shepherd, Mr. James L., Jr

Smith, Mr. E. L.

Suman, Mr. John R.

Stark, Mr. H. J. L.

Webb, Mr. W. P.

Weiss, Mr. W. C.

Wheelock, Mr. Lloyd

Wilson, Mr. W. D.

Wrather, Mr. W. E.

American Liberty Oil Company

Houston Oil Company

CONTENTS

THE LIFE OF COLONEL R. T. MILNER - Rosalind Langston - - 407

"THE ALAMO"- Maury Maverick - - 453

RAMPANT INDIVIDUALISM IN THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS - - -

---- William Ransom Hogan - - 454

MEMORIES OF A TEXAS LAND COMMISSIONER, W. C. WALSH -

Contributed by Charles W. Ramsdell, Jr. - - 481

TEXAS COLLECTION - Walter Prescott Webb - - 498

AFFAIRS OF THE ASSOCIATION --- 510

BOOK REVIEWS: O'Grady (Gibson, compiler), The Argyle Cook

Book; Lea, Randado; Dobie, Boatright and Ransom (eds.),

Mustangs and Cow Horses; F. W. P. of W. P. A., Beaumont,

A Guide to the City and Its Environs; F. W. P. of W. P. A.,

Port Arthur; Brockunier, The Irrepressible Democrat:

Roger Williams; Coleman, Slavery Times in Kentucky;

Hatcher, Edward Livingston. Jeffersonian Republican and

Jacksonian Democrat; Gaeddert, The Birth of Kansas;

Day, Coronado's Quest: The Discovery of the Southwestern

States; Thomas, Teodoro de Croix and the Northern Fron-

tier of New Spain, 1776-1783; Hernández (Walter, trans.),

The Gaucho Martín Fierro ------------- 511

BOOK NOTES AND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS ---- 529

INDEX TO VOLUME XLIV - 533

http://www.tshaonline.org/publications/jou...4/n4/issue.html

Edited January 25, 2009 by Robert Howard

[John Dolva]

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/...s/DD/fde21.html

DEALEY, GEORGE BANNERMAN (1859-1946). George Bannerman (G. B.) Dealey, publisher and civic planner, was born on September 18, 1859, in Manchester, England, to George and Mary Ann (Nellins) Dealey. In the mid-1860s the family moved to Liverpool, where he began his schooling and worked as a grocer's apprentice. In 1870 his family immigrated to Galveston, Texas, where he continued in public school and worked at various odd jobs. He took the position of office boy at the Galveston Newsqv on October 12, 1874. He worked for this publishing concern the rest of his life. (ed What is a 'publishing concern'?)

Dealey took evening classes at the Island City Business College and rose steadily at the News. He became a traveling correspondent who sent news stories and business and circulation reports back to Galveston. When the Dallas Morning Newsqv was founded in 1885 he was appointed business manager. By 1895 he became manager of the paper. He became a board member of both newspapers in 1902, vice president and general manager of the corporation in 1906, and president in 1919, upon the death of Cesar M. Lombardi.qv In 1926 Dealey bought the Dallas Morning News, the Journal (an evening edition), the Semi-Weekly Farm News, and the Texas Almanacqv from the heirs of Alfred H. Beloqv and acquired the majority of the company stock.

Dealey was a Thirty-third-degree Scottish Rite Mason, Knight Templar, Shriner, and member of the Red Cross of Constantine. He was a Presbyterian and Democrat (ed or in the vernacular of the day, a Goat). Dealey Plaza in Dallas is named for him. The New York Times called him the dean of American publishers. He died at his home in Dallas on February 26, 1946, of a coronary occlusion.

The History of The Galveston County Daily News

the first edition of The Daily News appeared April 11, 1842

The first edition was published by George French from a single story building on Tremont Street in downtown Galveston.

At the time, Texas was an independent republic. Sam Houston was finishing his last term as president. Galveston was a fledgling village of more than 4,000 citizens -- and anything that came into Texas from the Gulf of Mexico came through Galveston.

The newspaper founded The Dallas Morning News on Oct. 1, 1885. The Dallas newspaper is considered to be Texas' oldest business institution, due in part to its affiliation with The Daily News. During The Civil War, the newspaper was briefly published in Houston.

http://www.sninews.com/

History portrayed in MLK Day skit

By Heather Menzies

Bay City Tribune

Published January 21, 2009

"Rosa Parks, you sat so Dr. King could walk. Martin, you walked so President-elect Barack Obama could run. Barack, you won so all our children will be able to fly," ...and who helped you walk, Martin? Who enforced with arms the desegregation of ole' Miss? Who first flagged the time of waiting is over? Who came to your side when a future Presidential candidate? Sometimes an absence speaks more. Interesting. btw, who did kill kenny?

[Robert Howard]

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/...s/DD/fde21.html

DEALEY, GEORGE BANNERMAN (1859-1946). George Bannerman (G. B.) Dealey, publisher and civic planner, was born on September 18, 1859, in Manchester, England, to George and Mary Ann (Nellins) Dealey. In the mid-1860s the family moved to Liverpool, where he began his schooling and worked as a grocer's apprentice. In 1870 his family immigrated to Galveston, Texas, where he continued in public school and worked at various odd jobs. He took the position of office boy at the Galveston Newsqv on October 12, 1874. He worked for this publishing concern the rest of his life. (ed What is a 'publishing concern'?)

Dealey took evening classes at the Island City Business College and rose steadily at the News. He became a traveling correspondent who sent news stories and business and circulation reports back to Galveston. When the Dallas Morning Newsqv was founded in 1885 he was appointed business manager. By 1895 he became manager of the paper. He became a board member of both newspapers in 1902, vice president and general manager of the corporation in 1906, and president in 1919, upon the death of Cesar M. Lombardi.qv In 1926 Dealey bought the Dallas Morning News, the Journal (an evening edition), the Semi-Weekly Farm News, and the Texas Almanacqv from the heirs of Alfred H. Beloqv and acquired the majority of the company stock.

Dealey was a Thirty-third-degree Scottish Rite Mason, Knight Templar, Shriner, and member of the Red Cross of Constantine. He was a Presbyterian and Democrat (ed or in the vernacular of the day, a Goat). Dealey Plaza in Dallas is named for him. The New York Times called him the dean of American publishers. He died at his home in Dallas on February 26, 1946, of a coronary occlusion.

The History of The Galveston County Daily News

the first edition of The Daily News appeared April 11, 1842

The first edition was published by George French from a single story building on Tremont Street in downtown Galveston.

At the time, Texas was an independent republic. Sam Houston was finishing his last term as president. Galveston was a fledgling village of more than 4,000 citizens -- and anything that came into Texas from the Gulf of Mexico came through Galveston.

The newspaper founded The Dallas Morning News on Oct. 1, 1885. The Dallas newspaper is considered to be Texas' oldest business institution, due in part to its affiliation with The Daily News. During The Civil War, the newspaper was briefly published in Houston.

http://www.sninews.com/

History portrayed in MLK Day skit

By Heather Menzies

Bay City Tribune

Published January 21, 2009

"Rosa Parks, you sat so Dr. King could walk. Martin, you walked so President-elect Barack Obama could run. Barack, you won so all our children will be able to fly," ...and who helped you walk, Martin? Who enforced with arms the desegregation of ole' Miss? Who first flagged the time of waiting is over? Who came to your side when a future Presidential candidate? Sometimes an absence speaks more. Interesting. btw, who did kill kenny?

Do you ever get the feeling that there are a lot of threads on the forum, that if the pertinent sections could be added together in a coherent manner we might discover how all of these persons intertwined in 1963?

Having said that, I am afraid my last post was a thread-killer and I apologize for the post if that were the case....

In an attempt to make amends, for that and especially for Linda Minor and Tom Scully, I wanted to suggest a perusal of Possible Discovery of an Automobile Used in the JFK Assassination, by Richard Bartholomew, if they have not already.

I remember that the author was posting on the Forum at one time, and was treated in a real crappy manner, to the point that I was embarrassed, memory escapes me as to who it was busting his chops but it was really undeserved in my opinion, and unlike some fairly well known persons he was not trying to sell a book or advocating that any particular ethnic or religious group Killed Kennedy.

I have posted a section of how a portion of his article ties in, in my opinion with various individuals mentioned on this thread...beginning as follows

"There is also a third scenario which, as we have seen, brings together the Miami Rambler, the Dealey Plaza Rambler, Wing's Rambler, Ruth Paine, Jack Ruby, and Oswald. In his manuscript, Peter Dale Scott mentions Jesus Fernandez Hernandez, the leaseholder of Hernando's Hideaway. He says he is a leader of the "30th of November Movement (founded by Dubois' old underground contact David Salvador)...."532 That is why Kensington found the possible connection between C.B. Smith and Jules Dubois interesting.

Jose M. Bosch Lamarque, the director of de Mohrenschildt's Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Trust, was Castro's chief contact with Dubois.533 Bosch Lamarque, Barletta, and de la Camara (all on de Mohrenschildt's board) are collectively tied to the Castro assassination attempt involving the Odios, General Motors, Batista, Trujillo, and the Lake Pontchartrain training camp -- the camp where Bringuier, Hall, Hemming, Victor Espinosa Hernandez ("A"), and Lauchli are all tied together.

Scott's research ties all of this to Marina's interrogators, the Abwehr, Reinhard Gehlen, the Paines, General Walker, Operation Second Naval Guerrilla, the false Oswald stories (specifically "D"), Martino, Weyl, Andrew St. George, Haiti, DIA, Vietnam withdrawal, Charles Willoughby, the Minutemen, Dudley Dougherty, the Hunts, and Pennsylvania 534 -- the home state of Frank Sturgis, the Mannarino brothers, and George Wing.

Furthermore, before Batista's fall at the hands of Castro, DeGolyer and MacNaughton had been active exploring for oil in Cuba, on behalf of a closely linked company which later (as Panoil) had Jack Alston Crichton as director. De Mohrenschildt's Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust, an "interlocking" company with DeGolyer and MacNaughton, also explored in Cuba at this time.535 DeGolyer and MacNaughton advised Harry Ransom's university about its most important asset -- oil.536

Crichton, head of a local Army Intelligence Unit, former employee of DeGolyer and MacNaughton,537 and trustee of the H.L. Hunt Foundation,538 had D.H. Byrd as a director of his own company,539 arranged for Marina Oswald to have his, George Bouhe's and Ruth Paine's friend Ilya Mamantov as her interpreter,540 had worked under Warren Smith at Pantipec,541 and was John Connally's Republican opponent in the 1964 governor's race.542

Mamantov (the mutual friend of Paine, Crichton and de Mohrenschildt),543 from whom Schmidt, Pierce, and Fredricksen were taking scientific Russian classes at Magnolia Laboratories,544 co-founded the CIA-backed St. Nicholas Parish,545 which had as a financial patron former deGolyer associate Paul Raigorodsky, who belonged to the elite Tryall Golf Club retreat in Jamaica with Michael Paine's cousin Alexander "Sandy" Forbes, a former director of United fruit.546

END

Here is the URL for the portion of the article, I referenced.

http://spot.acorn.net/JFKplace/09/fp.back_...er4.html#N_501_

and

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_...mblr_frwrd.html

[John Dolva]

Rob : "Do you ever get the feeling that there are a lot of threads on the forum, that if the pertinent sections could be added together in a coherent manner we might discover .... " (me : ...everything)?

yes