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The non-pacifism of Mid-Western Quakers and the possible link between Ruth Paine and Von Peacock, acting director of the Casa de los Amigos in Mexico City at the time of the FBI "search" for "Steve Kennan".

Agreed,

as there seems to be a connection between Ruth Paine and Von Peacock and a connection that was never questioned or investigated.

BK

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I feel this link to "Oswald's Quaker connection in New Orleans and Mexico City" would help others not up to speed on the Philly and Mexico stuff.

http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/08/oswalds-quaker-connection-in-new.html

and this thread will help also:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6548&pid=201372&st=45entry201372

Ed

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I feel this link to "Oswald's Quaker connection in New Orleans and Mexico City" would help others not up to speed on the Philly and Mexico stuff.

http://quixoticjoust...ion-in-new.html

and this thread will help also:

http://educationforu...45

Ed

Ed, thanks for posting this Quixotie article, and while Linda Minor is a great researcher, I resent the hijacking of my article and reposting it with the insertion of JVB's comments and the assertion that I have ignored her book. I have two copies of her book and think its all very interesting, but there's nothing in there that can't be better referenced elsewhere, especially the info about Dr. Klopfer and his wife and daughters, one of whom Greg Parker interviewed. Chopping up my article and polluting it with the BS from JVB is very irritating and unnecessary.

BK

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I feel this link to "Oswald's Quaker connection in New Orleans and Mexico City" would help others not up to speed on the Philly and Mexico stuff.

http://quixoticjoust...ion-in-new.html

and this thread will help also:

http://educationforu...45

Ed

Ed, thanks for posting this Quixotie article, and while Linda Minor is a great researcher, I resent the hijacking of my article and reposting it with the insertion of JVB's comments and the assertion that I have ignored her book. I have two copies of her book and think its all very interesting, but there's nothing in there that can't be better referenced elsewhere, especially the info about Dr. Klopfer and his wife and daughters, one of whom Greg Parker interviewed. Chopping up my article and polluting it with the BS from JVB is very irritating and unnecessary.

BK

Bill, everyone who is interested in this area of research owes a debt of gratitude to you for your work. It is certainly what inspired my own digging.

As for Linda, don't be too hard on her... fair use and all that. It's a fact if you make your work readily available, it may end up being used in to support all manner of theories and ideas that you personally don't support - or flat out flat out find offensive - I know. Someone once asked a question here regarding who a certain person might have been. I made a speculative guess... which is now all over the internet supporting a Jewish conspiracy.... with my name attached. The worst part is, I discovered my speculation was wrong. It's now on too many websites to write to them all.

A few things need clearing up in regard to Linda's article.

The New Orleans Council for Peaceful Alternatives was not a quaker group. It was started by a Jewish professor from all Black college. The only Quakers involved were Warner Kloepfer and Daughter Ruth.

Everything Judyth has about the Kloepfers has come from me or from her own research. Very early in the saga, she asked for researchers to test her by sending questions to her via Martin. I sent a question about something I knew that was not in the records.

In my interview with Dr Ruth Peters (the former Ruth Kloepfer) she told me that Oswald had given her a small Russian joke book to help her practice. On further questioning, she said that the FBI took the book when they came and interviewed her mother, and returned it several weeks later. This episode is not mentioned in any document that I ever seen (and I have looked extensively for a trace of it). Judyth's reply was a guess based on what IS in the records - Krokodil - a Russian satirical magazine. Moreover, she was very vague about the Kloepfers themselves and obviously knew nothing about them beyond the brief mentions in Ruth Paine's testimony.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt. After all, that she did not know about the book could just mean Oswald never mentioned it to her. I shared research with Judyth after that and she was enormously helpful in the kind of research I was doing at the time, mainly on medical / operational medical issues. We became close enough that I even offered for her to come to Australia and stay with me at a time she was claiming to feel unsafe in the US.

She began to lose me because of two issues: firstly, the sheer volume of her emails and that she expected replies to every single one - despite having explained to her I just didn't have the time to do that - the other issue was the more telling. I began to notice she was slowly working Warner Kloepfer into her own story - and the final version of that can be seen in Linda's article.

Her thoughts on "Steve/Larry Kennan/Keenan", while looking reasonable based on what is in the records and in various books, is actually way off the mark in just about every respect.

I bear Judyth no ill will, but my own research has, in the intervening years, moved on leaving no room for her version of events.

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I don't want this to turn into another Judythathon, so that is the end of Judyth discussion on my part.

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I feel this link to "Oswald's Quaker connection in New Orleans and Mexico City" would help others not up to speed on the Philly and Mexico stuff.

http://quixoticjoust...ion-in-new.html

and this thread will help also:

http://educationforu...45

Ed

Ed, thanks for posting this Quixotie article, and while Linda Minor is a great researcher, I resent the hijacking of my article and reposting it with the insertion of JVB's comments and the assertion that I have ignored her book. I have two copies of her book and think its all very interesting, but there's nothing in there that can't be better referenced elsewhere, especially the info about Dr. Klopfer and his wife and daughters, one of whom Greg Parker interviewed. Chopping up my article and polluting it with the BS from JVB is very irritating and unnecessary.

BK

Bill, everyone who is interested in this area of research owes a debt of gratitude to you for your work. It is certainly what inspired my own digging.

As for Linda, don't be too hard on her... fair use and all that. It's a fact if you make your work readily available, it may end up being used in to support all manner of theories and ideas that you personally don't support - or flat out flat out find offensive - I know. Someone once asked a question here regarding who a certain person might have been. I made a speculative guess... which is now all over the internet supporting a Jewish conspiracy.... with my name attached. The worst part is, I discovered my speculation was wrong. It's now on too many websites to write to them all.

A few things need clearing up in regard to Linda's article.

The New Orleans Council for Peaceful Alternatives was not a quaker group. It was started by a Jewish professor from all Black college. The only Quakers involved were Warner Kloepfer and Daughter Ruth.

Everything Judyth has about the Kloepfers has come from me or from her own research. Very early in the saga, she asked for researchers to test her by sending questions to her via Martin. I sent a question about something I knew that was not in the records.

In my interview with Dr Ruth Peters (the former Ruth Kloepfer) she told me that Oswald had given her a small Russian joke book to help her practice. On further questioning, she said that the FBI took the book when they came and interviewed her mother, and returned it several weeks later. This episode is not mentioned in any document that I ever seen (and I have looked extensively for a trace of it). Judyth's reply was a guess based on what IS in the records - Krokodil - a Russian satirical magazine. Moreover, she was very vague about the Kloepfers themselves and obviously knew nothing about them beyond the brief mentions in Ruth Paine's testimony.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt. After all, that she did not know about the book could just mean Oswald never mentioned it to her. I shared research with Judyth after that and she was enormously helpful in the kind of research I was doing at the time, mainly on medical / operational medical issues. We became close enough that I even offered for her to come to Australia and stay with me at a time she was claiming to feel unsafe in the US.

She began to lose me because of two issues: firstly, the sheer volume of her emails and that she expected replies to every single one - despite having explained to her I just didn't have the time to do that - the other issue was the more telling. I began to notice she was slowly working Warner Kloepfer into her own story - and the final version of that can be seen in Linda's article.

Her thoughts on "Steve/Larry Kennan/Keenan", while looking reasonable based on what is in the records and in various books, is actually way off the mark in just about every respect.

I bear Judyth no ill will, but my own research has, in the intervening years, moved on leaving no room for her version of events.

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I don't want this to turn into another Judythathon, so that is the end of Judyth discussion on my part.

I hear you Greg.

I just don't know why such a good researcher as Linda would buy into JVB when there are other more reliable sources for everything she says.

What became of Von Peacock?

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Ed, thanks for posting this Quixotie article, and while Linda Minor is a great researcher, I resent the hijacking of my article and reposting it with the insertion of JVB's comments and the assertion that I have ignored her book. I have two copies of her book and think its all very interesting, but there's nothing in there that can't be better referenced elsewhere, especially the info about Dr. Klopfer and his wife and daughters, one of whom Greg Parker interviewed. Chopping up my article and polluting it with the BS from JVB is very irritating and unnecessary.

BK

Sorry Bill! A bit of chaff got in with the wheat.

I was going to post the link to the article on JFKcountercoup:

http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2011/08/philly-quakers-with-oswald-in-mexico.html

But it was dated the 28th of Aug and the Quixotic one pre-dated it, 12th of Aug so I chose the earlier work, it also had the books of reference which would aide those interested in reading them. Again did not mean to throw a JVB into this, not my intention.

Thanks, Ed

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My amends.

"Philadelphia Quakers With Oswald in Mexico City"

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/28th_issue/quakers.html

and "The Man on the Motorcycle in Mexico City"

http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2011/08/man-on-motorcycle-in-mexico-city.html

This link has history and genealogy. A book by Myers documents the Irish Quakers coming onto Philly 1682-1750.

http://net.lib.byu.edu/fslab/researchoutlines/NonGeographic/Quaker.pdf

References include: Hoyt, Edwin P., THE NIXONS - AN AMERICAN FAMILY: HBBL CS7l.N741972

More on Nixon as a Quaker:

http://www.kimopress.com/nixon.html

The best part of it where Hiss says "I am familiar with the law. I attended Harvard Law School. I believe yours was Whittier."

Will search for Von further when I get time...may try contacting a relative.

This has the genealogical references:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~peacockmoltrer/fam00317.htm

Von and Ruth (Winterbottom) had a child in Mexico, one "Kim Albert Peacock".

Ed

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Kim Albert Peacock

Kim Albert Peacock

Greenwood, IN

Age: 46

Previous addresses:

1 Address In Greenwood

1 Address In Union City

1 Address In Oakton

2 Addresses In Arlington

2 Addresses In Alexandria

1 Address In Durham

Relatives:

Janis B Peacock

and

Von E Peacock

______________________________________

Von E Peacock

Addresses:

5 Addresses in San Antonio TX

1 Address in New Bedford MA

Relatives:

Ruth Peacock

Delores Peacock

Debbie Peacock

______________________________________

Janis Peacock

Addresses:

5 Addresses in Nevada City CA

4 Addresses in Orlando FL

Relatives:

Virgil Peacock

Kim Peacock

Jean Peacock

Elizabeth Peacock

Julian Peacock

Bonnie Peacock

Brittney Copelan

Alison Cardoso

Cara Bright

_______________________________________

Ed

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More from Stig:

The intelligence background on Tujague Inc.

http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t155-adolfo-hegewisch

From that link:

Hegewisch was also a promoter of New Orleans as a port. Shortly after WW II, he was one of the founders, and an early president, of International House, an institution designed to

encourage – especially -- Latin American countries to expand their exports through the port of New Orleans. Founded partly by Rockefeller money, International House undoubtedly served

a clandestine purpose as well, being ideally situated, as it was, for the gathering of intelligence regarding Latin America.

At any rate, in his capacity as president, Hegewisch extended his acquaintances with numerous businessmen and officials in Latin American countries, including presidents and dictators,

whom he regularly hosted at International House.

In his book New Orleans on Parade, Jonathan Souther wrote about the formation of the International House. At the bottom of page 23, he notes that the same boosters that founded the International House,

with the financial backing of the New Orleans-based Pan American Life Insurance Company, opened the International Trade Mart in 1948.

http://books.google.com/books?id=j8RjmAdbz4MC&pg=PA20&dq=new+orleans+on+parade+bavarian+native&hl=en&ei=7dt3Tuf2HMK2tgeoqp2vDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

According to Rosemary James and Jack Wardlaw, Clay Shaw was appointed acting director of the International House in September of 1956. (Plot or Politics, page 56)

Jim Garrison had an assistant DA by the name of William Martin. According to Bill Davy, Martin was a formal contact and source for the CIA during his tenure at the International House in 1964-65. (Let Justice Be Done, page 146)

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More from Stig:

The intelligence background on Tujague Inc.

http://reopenkennedy...dolfo-hegewisch

From that link:

Hegewisch was also a promoter of New Orleans as a port. Shortly after WW II, he was one of the founders, and an early president, of International House, an institution designed to

encourage – especially -- Latin American countries to expand their exports through the port of New Orleans. Founded partly by Rockefeller money, International House undoubtedly served

a clandestine purpose as well, being ideally situated, as it was, for the gathering of intelligence regarding Latin America.

At any rate, in his capacity as president, Hegewisch extended his acquaintances with numerous businessmen and officials in Latin American countries, including presidents and dictators,

whom he regularly hosted at International House.

In his book New Orleans on Parade, Jonathan Souther wrote about the formation of the International House. At the bottom of page 23, he notes that the same boosters that founded the International House,

with the financial backing of the New Orleans-based Pan American Life Insurance Company, opened the International Trade Mart in 1948.

http://books.google....epage&q&f=false

According to Rosemary James and Jack Wardlaw, Clay Shaw was appointed acting director of the International House in September of 1956. (Plot or Politics, page 56)

Jim Garrison had an assistant DA by the name of William Martin. According to Bill Davy, Martin was a formal contact and source for the CIA during his tenure at the International House in 1964-65. (Let Justice Be Done, page 146)

When I first started researching the CIA ties to the Catherwood Foundation of Philadelphia, I noticed a number of connections with International House, which today still operates at the University of Pennsylvania.

There was also a connection with the Pan Am Society, which co-sponsored, with the Catherwood Foundation, a conference of Cuban exile journalists at the University of Maimi during the summer of 1963.

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