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         I was genuinely baffled earlier this year when it became apparent that the Republican Party was going to re-nominate the sociopath who incited a mob attack on the U.S. Congress on January 6th-- the con man and felon whom Presidential historians have accurately rated as the worst President in American history.

        This week, David Corn has published an interesting cover story at Mother Jones which theorizes that Trump's bizarre 2024 popularity is predicated, in part, on historical amnesia about his disastrous Presidency.

        IMO, the "amnesia" about Trump's disastrous tenure in the White House is also a function of primary ignorance-- Fox News, Newsmax, and the MAGA propaganda establishment has systematically suppressed news coverage of Trump's lies and blunders, for years.

        This was demonstrated in a UC Berkeley experiment a few years ago, in which Fox News watchers were paid to switch to CNN, and became more accurately informed about Trump's failures, and current events.

 

Millions Have Amnesia About the Worst of Trump’s Presidency. Memory Experts Explain Why.

How Trump is benefiting from the limits of our memory.

Millions Have Amnesia About the Worst of Trump’s Presidency. Memory Experts Explain Why. – Mother Jones

September 17, 2024

 

 

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It looks like the MAGA spam on the Political Discussion board is now derailing any informed discussions about American politics.

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19 minutes ago, Karl Kinaski said:

Giuliani: "He (Trump) handed the Biden administration a world of peace and Biden turned it into a world of war."

Karl,

     The fact that you're quoting a corrupt MAGA sleazeball like Rudy Giuliani tells us all we need to know about your "knowledge" of American politics.

     You remind me of those MAGA football players from Nebraska -- the "N" on their helmets stands for, "Knowledge."  🙄

 

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More Than 400 Economists Endorse Kamala Harris

September 24, 2024 at 7:47 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 

“More than 400 economists and former high-ranking US policymakers are endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris and her vision for the American economy,” CNN reports.

“The mass endorsement lands as Harris tries to erode former President Donald Trump’s lead on the economy, a critical issue that many Americans say could decide their vote this election.”

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5 hours ago, Karl Kinaski said:

 "I guess for Niederhut, a Trump-Zelensky meeting would be disastrous in any case... even if it were to end the carnage and lead to peace in Ukraine. By the way, where is Comrade Kamala? Hitting the vodka bottle?" 

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At a press briefing at Trump Tower in New York City, former President Trump said that he is meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tomorrow.wer in New York City, former President Trump said that he is meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tomorrow.

Perhaps Trump will take another stab at extorting Zelensky to make a false statement about a Democrat.

I'm reminded of Trump's former NSC advisor, Dr. Fiona Hill, reporting that she, "never saw Trump put America first-- not once."

 

Former top Trump Russia adviser details the sharp contrast between the former President and Biden | CNN Politics

February 20, 2022

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“There’s no Team America for Trump,” Hill recalled. “Not once did I see him do anything to put America first. Not once. Not for a single second.”

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2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Perhaps Trump will take another stab at extorting Zelensky to make a false statement about a Democrat.

I'm reminded of Trump's former NSC advisor, Dr. Fiona Hill, reporting that she, "never saw Trump put America first-- not once."

 

Former top Trump Russia adviser details the sharp contrast between the former President and Biden | CNN Politics

February 20, 2022

Excerpt

“There’s no Team America for Trump,” Hill recalled. “Not once did I see him do anything to put America first. Not once. Not for a single second.”

Educate yourself, Karl.

Read Dr. Fiona Hill's first person account of Trump's disastrous Presidency.

She was Trump's NSC advisor on Russian affairs.

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2 hours ago, Karl Kinaski said:

 

Karl, to be clear this is what you get when you use Trump as a source.  The phone call where Trump withholds military funding to Ukraine and ties it into investigation of his political rival Joe Biden's son Hunter occurs on July 25th, 2019. Of course Zelensky wanting aid from Trump and the U.S. downplayed  the incident to stay on the President Trump's good side. Just as you can see he's doing  in this meeting today, under the possibility that Trump could again become President.

But Zelensky's downplay meant nothing as many could see that was the expedient thing for Zelensky to do, and contrary to what Trump said, the impeachment hearings didn't collapse, but went forward a couple of months later. 

In December 2019, Trump was impeached only to be acquitted by the Senate in Jan. 2020 because they couldn't get the required 2/3rds of the vote.

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3 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Karl, to be clear this is what you get when you use Trump as a source.  The phone call where Trump withholds military funding to Ukraine and ties it into investigation of his political rival Joe Biden's son Hunter occurs on July 25th, 2019. Of course Zelensky wanting aid from Trump and the U.S. downplayed  the incident to stay on the President Trump's good side. Just as you can see he's doing  in this meeting today, under the possibility that Trump could again become President.

But Zelensky's downplay meant nothing as many could see that was the expedient thing for Zelensky to do, and contrary to what Trump said, the impeachment hearings didn't collapse, but went forward a couple of months later. 

In December 2019, Trump was impeached only to be acquitted by the Senate in Jan. 2020 because they couldn't get the required 2/3rds of the vote.

Kirk,

    Karl Kinaski probably doesn't know that the House testimony of Trump's own staff-- Vindman, Yovanovitch, Sondland, Hill, et.al.-- in his first impeachment hearing was absolutely damning.  It was the precise opposite of a "collapse."  

     What "collapsed" is that Mitch McConnell and the Republican sociopaths in the Senate refused to even hear the damning House evidence about Trump's Ukraine-gate extortion scam.  And MAGA John Roberts presided over that Republican Senate travesty.

     If those Republican Senators had simply done their job, they would have saved the United States a great deal of subsequent damage-- including Trump's January 6th Insurrection and his fraud-based 2024 Presidential campaign.

    

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What’s the deal with Trump and Obamacare?

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One of the weirdest claims in the Trump-Harris debate was Trump's lengthy declaration that he sucked it up and did his best to save a flailing Obamacare because it was the best choice for the American people. J.D. Vance repeated the claim tonight.

It's beyond even Trumpian levels of bizarreness. He campaigned on repealing Obamacare. He spent months pushing repeal through the House and almost through the Senate. He reacted bitterly to losing the fight thanks to a single vote by Sen. John McCain. He then spent the rest of his term defunding outreach and supporting lawsuits against Obamacare. And he's been publicly trashing it ever since.

This is not ancient history. We were all there. It's just not possible to gaslight Democrats about this, and Republicans aren't impressed in the first place since they all wanted to repeal Obamacare too.

In fact, Republicans tried to repeal Obamacare endlessly. They savaged it constantly. Nearly a dozen Republican states still don't accept its virtually free Medicaid expansion out of sheer spite. This is so deeply embedded in Republican DNA that it's literally impossible even for Trump to turn around and pretend to be its champion. It would be like Democrats trying to convince the country that they've never really been in favor of food stamps. Just forget it.

So what's the story? Why hasn't it been a bigger deal that Trump now says he's a big fan of keeping and improving Obamacare? And why has Kamala Harris mostly just shrugged about it?  Can anyone even take a stab at explaining this to me?

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