John Geraghty Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 This party doesn't seem to stop so heres another thread. Who ,live or dead, would you most like to have sat down and had a pint with. And for you non-alcoholics you can have a nice glass of milk. For good company and a bit of an adventure I would say Steve McQueen For a good rewriting of history I would say watergate burglar Howard Hunt (since he is still alive my chances are good) John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Toliver Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Does it have to be just one? I'd sit down with my buddy Chuck Darwin and see what he thinks of life in general. I'd love to have a pint with Meryl Streep. Albert Einstein would probably be fun, too. And I'd sit across from Robert Strange McNamara and grill his sorry ass - but it wouldn't be a pleasant pint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 I'd sit down with my buddy Chuck Darwin and see what he thinks of life in general. I'd love to have a pint with Meryl Streep. Albert Einstein would probably be fun, too. And I'd sit across from Robert Strange McNamara and grill his sorry ass - but it wouldn't be a pleasant pint. I would pay money to watch you and McNamara discuss the Vietnam War. At least McNamara has admitted his mistakes. Are Vietnam Vets more hostile to him than those military leaders who keep quiet about such a disastrous policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Gratz Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 I've always thought McNamara had a strange middle name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Gratz Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 (edited) Michael Moore and Karl Rove on the Fourth of July? No need for external fireworks! (I neither eat nor drink with deceased persons.) Edited July 2, 2005 by Tim Gratz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Toliver Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 I would pay money to watch you and McNamara discuss the Vietnam War. At least McNamara has admitted his mistakes. Are Vietnam Vets more hostile to him than those military leaders who keep quiet about such a disastrous policy? McNamara is the most public of figures, and while he has admitted mistakes, he doesn't seem to understand what his mistakes were. Watch the Fog of War. As to the generals, in the early days many of the Joint Chiefs opposed our entry into 'Nam. Those opposing chiefs were largely "retired" and the ones who remained were faced with a policy they had to support if they wanted to remain in the service. That certainly doesn't excuse them - but since they didn't set policy, our pint would be fairly dull. I want to ream the policy makers. Now, Michael Moore and Karl Rove and Tim? That would be worth the price of admission! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Meredith Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Bobby Kennedy: To ask him all about what was truly going on in 63. Peace or kill Castro. (or both) Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Walker Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Shakespeare - to ask him all those questions to which noone knows the answers. I enjoy coming to this forum and have no objection to other people's interests and I can understand wanting to know what happened - I just can't personally get my head around the level of obsession with Kennedy. However, that's my problem - I just ignore and pass on to the other stuff. Thank you for setting up the forum, regardless of its minor obsessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Gratz Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Dawn wrote: Bobby Kennedy: To ask him all about what was truly going on in 63. Peace or kill Castro. (or both) Darn good question, Dawn. Could have been: whichever came first. Or could have been the "peace feelures" were a Kennedy con job to prepare for the surprise coup. But can you imagine if the Kennedys had replaced Fidel with Che, and Che would have created a socialist Cuba but one free from Soviet domination and in a friendly relationship with the US? Kennedy would have been re-elected in a heartbeat. And who knows what would have happened in Nam? And the moon landing would have occured while JFK was still President, you can count on that! And the current president would probably be . . . John F. Kennedy, Jr. Or perhaps Caroline? To quote a phrase from the sixties: "Can you dig it?" Edited December 16, 2005 by Tim Gratz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus. AKA Octavian, and simply Augustus. I think that, with a little bit of fresh information, a little bit of disinformation, a few outright lies, threats, predictions and a couple of crude scientific experiments, the world could be very awesome place by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Simone Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) On 7/2/2005 at 8:19 AM, Mike Toliver said: McNamara is the most public of figures, and while he has admitted mistakes, he doesn't seem to understand what his mistakes were. Watch the Fog of War. As to the generals, in the early days many of the Joint Chiefs opposed our entry into 'Nam. Those opposing chiefs were largely "retired" and the ones who remained were faced with a policy they had to support if they wanted to remain in the service. That certainly doesn't excuse them - but since they didn't set policy, our pint would be fairly dull. I want to ream the policy makers. Now, Michael Moore and Karl Rove and Tim? That would be worth the price of admission! Mike, I saw the premier of the Fog of War at the Toronto International Film Festival a few years ago, followed by a Q & A with its director, Errol Morris (who won the Academy Award for best doc btw). I went up him after the Q & A and asked him directly: Did McNamara believe in a conspiracy to assassinate JFK? He paused and said "Ahhhhhhhhh...he doesn't think it was a conspiracy". The way he answered me was a tell tale sign that McNamara kept any suspicions or beliefs about a conspiracy to himself (and maybe didn't want Morris to reveal his true feelings to others either, if he told him so off the record). Edited April 8, 2017 by Gerry Simone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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