Jump to content
The Education Forum
  • Announcements

    • Evan Burton

      OPEN REGISTRATION BY EMAIL ONLY !!! PLEASE CLICK ON THIS TITLE FOR INFORMATION REQUIRED FOR REGISTRATION!:   06/03/2017

      We have 5 requirements for registration: 1.Sign up with your real name. (This will be your Username) 2.A valid email address 3.Your agreement to the Terms of Use, seen here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21403. 4. Your photo for use as an avatar  5.. A brief biography. We will post these for you, and send you your password. We cannot approve membership until we receive these. If you are interested, please send an email to: edforumbusiness@outlook.com We look forward to having you as a part of the Forum! Sincerely, The Education Forum Team
Sign in to follow this  
Gil Jesus

LINNIE MAE RANDLE NEVER SAW OSWALD PUT THE PACKAGE IN THE CAR

Recommended Posts

Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was

laying the package down so I closed the door. I didn't recognize him

as he walked across my carport and I at that moment I wondered who was

fixing to come to my back door so I opened the door slightly and saw

that it--I assumed he was getting in the car but he didn't, so he come

back and stood on the driveway.

Mr. BALL. He put the package in the car.

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; I don't know if he put it on the seat or on the

floor but I just know he put it in the back.

( 2 H 248-249 )

Randle "didn't recognize", "wondered" and "assumed" because the outer

wall of the carport prevented her from seeing what was going on on the

other side of it.

(CE 446 , CE 447 )

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

Mrs. RANDLE. .....Wesley's car was on the other side of the

carport ..... ( 2 H 251 )

It was actually on the other side of the outer wall of the carport.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was

laying the package down so I closed the door. I didn't recognize him

as he walked across my carport and I at that moment I wondered who was

fixing to come to my back door so I opened the door slightly and saw

that it--I assumed he was getting in the car but he didn't, so he come

back and stood on the driveway.

Mr. BALL. He put the package in the car.

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; I don't know if he put it on the seat or on the

floor but I just know he put it in the back.

( 2 H 248-249 )

Randle "didn't recognize", "wondered" and "assumed" because the outer

wall of the carport prevented her from seeing what was going on on the

other side of it.

(CE 446 , CE 447 )

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

Mrs. RANDLE. .....Wesley's car was on the other side of the

carport ..... ( 2 H 251 )

It was actually on the other side of the outer wall of the carport.

In CE 446 and 447 it looks like there is are windows on that far wall with some sort of shades. If so, perhaps they were open that day or in a position where she could still see what was going on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
In CE 446 and 447 it looks like there is are windows on that far wall with some sort of shades. If so, perhaps they were open that day or in a position where she could still see what was going on.

Todd, where are this windows you are talking about?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was

laying the package down so I closed the door. I didn't recognize him

as he walked across my carport and I at that moment I wondered who was

fixing to come to my back door so I opened the door slightly and saw

that it--I assumed he was getting in the car but he didn't, so he come

back and stood on the driveway.

Mr. BALL. He put the package in the car.

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; I don't know if he put it on the seat or on the

floor but I just know he put it in the back.

( 2 H 248-249 )

Randle "didn't recognize", "wondered" and "assumed" because the outer

wall of the carport prevented her from seeing what was going on on the

other side of it.

(CE 446 , CE 447 )

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

Mrs. RANDLE. .....Wesley's car was on the other side of the

carport ..... ( 2 H 251 )

It was actually on the other side of the outer wall of the carport.

In CE 446 and 447 it looks like there is are windows on that far wall with some sort of shades. If so, perhaps they were open that day or in a position where she could still see what was going on.

See the light coming in around the shades or slats on the wall opposite the car? It appears there are windows or some sort of openings.

Edited by Todd W. Vaughan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
See the light coming in around the shades or slats on the wall opposite the car? It appears there are windows or some sort of openings.

There are no windows. There are just wooden slats and between some of theme glare light. Depends on the sun position how much of glare would be visible.

bwlmr.jpg

On november 22, 1963 at 7:20am was just rising time. Diffuse and dark.

She could never have seen what she claimed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
See the light coming in around the shades or slats on the wall opposite the car? It appears there are windows or some sort of openings.

There are no windows. There are just wooden slats and between some of theme glare light. Depends on the sun position how much of glare would be visible.

bwlmr.jpg

On november 22, 1963 at 7:20am was just rising time. Diffuse and dark.

She could never have seen what she claimed.

Martin,

You posted an enlargement of CE 447. But take a look at CE 446 instead. I'm not so sure those are wooden slats, but whatever they are there are gaps, and it looks like you’d be able to see someone moving around on the other side through the slats.

As for the glare you suggest might have been making it difficult to see through the slats, CE 441 at…

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0095b.htm

...shows that Linnie Mae would be looking North to have the view as seen in CE 446.

The sun rises in the East, Martin, so there would be no glare.

As for the lighting, Civil Twilight is defined as…

“… when the sun is 6 degrees below the horizon. This is the limit at which twilight illumination is sufficient, under good weather conditions, for terrestrial objects to be clearly distinguished; at the beginning of morning civil twilight, or end of evening civil twilight, the horizon is clearly defined and the brightest stars are visible under good atmospheric conditions in the absence of moonlight or other illumination. In the morning before the beginning of civil twilight and in the evening after the end of civil twilight, artificial illumination is normally required to carry on ordinary outdoor activities.” http://www.sunrisesunset.com/custom_srss_calendar.asp

On 22 November 1963 in Dallas, Texas Civil Twilight occurred at 6:36 AM.

But sunrise occurred at 7:02 am, NOT “7;20am” as you claim. That’s nearly 30 minutes later than Civil Twilight.

So I suspect that by 7:02 am it would be getting rather light outside.

But 7:02 am is NOT when Linnie Mae Randall saw Oswald.

Linnie Mae told the FBI that she saw Oswald at about 7:15 am. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/randl_l1.htm

Fraizer himself also told the DPD that Oswald arrived at 7:15 am. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazierb4.htm, and at the Shaw trial he said it was as late as 7: 20 or 7: 25. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazierb3.htm.

So if we take the earlier time of 7:15 am we’re now nearly 45 minutes after Civil Twilight, and 13 minutes after actual sunrise, and it would be far from “Diffuse and dark” as you claim.

Todd

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Martin,

You posted an enlargement of CE 447. But take a look at CE 446 instead. I'm not so sure those are wooden slats, but whatever they are there are gaps, and it looks like you’d be able to see someone moving around on the other side through the slats.

I prefer to look at both sides. In fact 447 shows the whole wall and therefore better to examine.

Your claim that there might be a window is plain wrong.

As for the glare you suggest might have been making it difficult to see through the slats, CE 441 at…

...shows that Linnie Mae would be looking North to have the view as seen in CE 446.

The sun rises in the East, Martin, so there would be no glare.

You need no sun to see glaring light. The power of light is responsible for that.

But sunrise occurred at 7:02 am, NOT “7;20am” as you claim. That’s nearly 30 minutes later than Civil Twilight.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said it was rising time.

You wanna be nitpick? Your time is wrong.

Go to calculate here: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php

7:06 am

So if we take the earlier time of 7:15 am we’re now nearly 45 minutes after Civil Twilight, and 13 minutes after actual sunrise, and it would be far from “Diffuse and dark” as you claim.

Todd

What was the weather that day? Ring the bell?

Or were she standing on a retaining curb with a torch lighting thru your windows?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Martin,

You posted an enlargement of CE 447. But take a look at CE 446 instead. I'm not so sure those are wooden slats, but whatever they are there are gaps, and it looks like you’d be able to see someone moving around on the other side through the slats.

I prefer to look at both sides. In fact 447 shows the whole wall and therefore better to examine.

Your claim that there might be a window is plain wrong.

As for the glare you suggest might have been making it difficult to see through the slats, CE 441 at…

...shows that Linnie Mae would be looking North to have the view as seen in CE 446.

The sun rises in the East, Martin, so there would be no glare.

You need no sun to see glaring light. The power of light is responsible for that.

But sunrise occurred at 7:02 am, NOT “7;20am” as you claim. That’s nearly 30 minutes later than Civil Twilight.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said it was rising time.

You wanna be nitpick? Your time is wrong.

Go to calculate here: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php

7:06 am

So if we take the earlier time of 7:15 am we’re now nearly 45 minutes after Civil Twilight, and 13 minutes after actual sunrise, and it would be far from “Diffuse and dark” as you claim.

Todd

What was the weather that day? Ring the bell?

Or were she standing on a retaining curb with a torch lighting thru your windows?

Martin,

What I said after you asked me where I saw windows was “windows or some sort of openings”. The fact is that there are opening between the vertical uprights that are covered horizontally with some sort of slats, but there are gaps in between the slats and it appears that someone would be able to discern activity on the other side of the carport through those slats, especially someone familiar (Linne Mae) with the carport and the fact that Fraizer parked his car on the other side of that carport.

I used http://www.sunrisesunset.com/custom_srss_calendar.asp to calculate sunrise at 7:02am. YOU want to “nitpick” (over 4 minutes) and use http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php? Fine with me. That site gives 7:06 am. Opps! That’s still not the “7:20am” you originally claimed!

As for my putting words in your mouth by equating your “rising time” with sunrise, what else is ‘rising time” supposed to be other than sunrise?

Regarding the weather, yeah, I know, it rained that morning, so it might have been cloudy. But let’s allow the witness to tell us what it was like..

Mr. JENNER. Was it a light day?

Mrs. RANDLE. It was sort of cloudy, but there wasn't any--I mean it wasn't dark or anything like that. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/randlelm.htm

“it wasn't dark or anything like that”

Sounds like it was light to me.

Ding, ding.

Todd

Edited by Todd W. Vaughan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Martin,

You posted an enlargement of CE 447. But take a look at CE 446 instead. I'm not so sure those are wooden slats, but whatever they are there are gaps, and it looks like you’d be able to see someone moving around on the other side through the slats.

I prefer to look at both sides. In fact 447 shows the whole wall and therefore better to examine.

Your claim that there might be a window is plain wrong.

As for the glare you suggest might have been making it difficult to see through the slats, CE 441 at…

...shows that Linnie Mae would be looking North to have the view as seen in CE 446.

The sun rises in the East, Martin, so there would be no glare.

You need no sun to see glaring light. The power of light is responsible for that.

But sunrise occurred at 7:02 am, NOT “7;20am” as you claim. That’s nearly 30 minutes later than Civil Twilight.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said it was rising time.

You wanna be nitpick? Your time is wrong.

Go to calculate here: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php

7:06 am

So if we take the earlier time of 7:15 am we’re now nearly 45 minutes after Civil Twilight, and 13 minutes after actual sunrise, and it would be far from “Diffuse and dark” as you claim.

Todd

What was the weather that day? Ring the bell?

Or were she standing on a retaining curb with a torch lighting thru your windows?

Martin,

What I said after you asked me where I saw windows was “windows or some sort of openings”. The fact is that there are opening between the vertical uprights that are covered horizontally with some sort of slats, but there are gaps in between the slats and it appears that someone would be able to discern activity on the other side of the carport through those slats, especially someone familiar (Linne Mae) with the carport and the fact that Fraizer parked his car on the other side of that carport.

I used http://www.sunrisesunset.com/custom_srss_calendar.asp to calculate sunrise at 7:02am. YOU want to “nitpick” (over 4 minutes) and use http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php? Fine with me. That site gives 7:06 am. Opps! That’s still not the “7:20am” you originally claimed!

As for my putting words in your mouth by equating your “rising time” with sunrise, what else is ‘rising time” supposed to be other than sunrise?

Regarding the weather, yeah, I know, it rained that morning, so it might have been cloudy. But let’s allow the witness to tell us what it was like..

Mr. JENNER. Was it a light day?

Mrs. RANDLE. It was sort of cloudy, but there wasn't any--I mean it wasn't dark or anything like that. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/randlelm.htm

“it wasn't dark or anything like that”

Sounds like it was light to me.

Ding, ding.

Todd

Martin,

Gary Mack has corrected us both. The correct data for Irving, Texas, not Dallas, is sunrise occured at 7:04am.

So we split the difference. It matters little.

Todd

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was

laying the package down so I closed the door. I didn't recognize him

as he walked across my carport and I at that moment I wondered who was

fixing to come to my back door so I opened the door slightly and saw

that it--I assumed he was getting in the car but he didn't, so he come

back and stood on the driveway.

Mr. BALL. He put the package in the car.

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; I don't know if he put it on the seat or on the

floor but I just know he put it in the back.

( 2 H 248-249 )

Randle "didn't recognize", "wondered" and "assumed" because the outer

wall of the carport prevented her from seeing what was going on on the

other side of it.

(CE 446 , CE 447 )

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

Mrs. RANDLE. .....Wesley's car was on the other side of the

carport ..... ( 2 H 251 )

It was actually on the other side of the outer wall of the carport.

In CE 446 and 447 it looks like there is are windows on that far wall with some sort of shades. If so, perhaps they were open that day or in a position where she could still see what was going on.

Nonsense. There's no windows in the outer wall of the carport.

Sunrise and sunset conventionally refer to the times when the upper

edge of the disk of the Sun is on the horizon.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/RST_defs.php

Sunrise on the morning of November 22, 1963 occurred at 7:03 AM, about

15 minutes before Oswald showed up at the Frazier home..

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astr...l=-11&day=1

Most states require drivers to have their headlights on from 1/2 hour

after sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset, especially on days where the

weather is bad.

On the morning of November 22, 1963 it was rainy.

AND IT WAS DARK.

So dark that Frazier had to use his headlights on the way to work.

And because he had an old car with an old battery, he had to charge

his battery when he got to the parking lot of the TSBD:

Mr. FRAZIER. I was letting my engine run and getting to charge up my

battery,.... ( 2 H 227-228 )

Frazier monitored his Generator gauge for a few minutes before turning

the engine off:

Mr. FRAZIER. ....I was watching the gages and watched the car for a

few minutes before I cut it off. ( 2 H 228 )

This is all evidence that Frazier used his headlights on the way to

work and because of the voltage draw on the battery, he needed to

charge the battery when he got to work.

Frazier needed to use his headlights because it was DARK outside.

The combination of the late sunrise and the dismal weather conditions

made it unlikely that he saw any package on the back seat of his car.

It also explains why he could be so wrong in his description of HOW

Oswald carried the package into the building, something that has been

debunked time and time again.

Not only is Frazier's description not supported by the physical

evidence, it was physically impossible.

I believe that it was too dark that morning for Randle to have seen Oswald put a package in the car.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A well put agrument imo. The bit where i get a doubt is one that arises from the use of inside lights in a car. Were cars then equipped with interior roof lights that click on manually or when the doors open?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was

laying the package down so I closed the door. I didn't recognize him

as he walked across my carport and I at that moment I wondered who was

fixing to come to my back door so I opened the door slightly and saw

that it--I assumed he was getting in the car but he didn't, so he come

back and stood on the driveway.

Mr. BALL. He put the package in the car.

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; I don't know if he put it on the seat or on the

floor but I just know he put it in the back.

( 2 H 248-249 )

Randle "didn't recognize", "wondered" and "assumed" because the outer

wall of the carport prevented her from seeing what was going on on the

other side of it.

(CE 446 , CE 447 )

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

Mrs. RANDLE. .....Wesley's car was on the other side of the

carport ..... ( 2 H 251 )

It was actually on the other side of the outer wall of the carport.

In CE 446 and 447 it looks like there is are windows on that far wall with some sort of shades. If so, perhaps they were open that day or in a position where she could still see what was going on.

Nonsense. There's no windows in the outer wall of the carport.

Sunrise and sunset conventionally refer to the times when the upper

edge of the disk of the Sun is on the horizon.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/RST_defs.php

Sunrise on the morning of November 22, 1963 occurred at 7:03 AM, about

15 minutes before Oswald showed up at the Frazier home..

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astr...l=-11&day=1

Most states require drivers to have their headlights on from 1/2 hour

after sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset, especially on days where the

weather is bad.

On the morning of November 22, 1963 it was rainy.

AND IT WAS DARK.

So dark that Frazier had to use his headlights on the way to work.

And because he had an old car with an old battery, he had to charge

his battery when he got to the parking lot of the TSBD:

Mr. FRAZIER. I was letting my engine run and getting to charge up my

battery,.... ( 2 H 227-228 )

Frazier monitored his Generator gauge for a few minutes before turning

the engine off:

Mr. FRAZIER. ....I was watching the gages and watched the car for a

few minutes before I cut it off. ( 2 H 228 )

This is all evidence that Frazier used his headlights on the way to

work and because of the voltage draw on the battery, he needed to

charge the battery when he got to work.

Frazier needed to use his headlights because it was DARK outside.

The combination of the late sunrise and the dismal weather conditions

made it unlikely that he saw any package on the back seat of his car.

It also explains why he could be so wrong in his description of HOW

Oswald carried the package into the building, something that has been

debunked time and time again.

Not only is Frazier's description not supported by the physical

evidence, it was physically impossible.

I believe that it was too dark that morning for Randle to have seen Oswald put a package in the car.

So what are you saying? That Frazier saw Oswald with a rifle but lied about it? And then got his sister to back him up?

Because if you're trying to claim Frazier and his sister were part of a plot to frame Oswald, you should probably think again. As far as I'm concerned, Frazier and his sister's description of a bag less than half the size of the bag found in the building is one of the biggest problems with the "official" story.

notexactly.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Tom Scully   
Guest Tom Scully
A well put agrument imo. The bit where i get a doubt is one that arises from the use of inside lights in a car. Were cars then equipped with interior roof lights that click on manually or when the doors open?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1...mp;aqi=&oq=

GASKET -DOOR JAMB DOME LIGHT SWITCH for 1949-1954 Chevrolet Cars

$2.25 new - Chevs of the 40s

...and, did we really need a new thread started to further discuss this controversy? This one is still fresh.:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...liams&st=15

From the same thread:

....Mrs. RANDLE. No; because I only opened the door briefly and what made me establish the door on Wesley's car, it is an old car and that door, the window is broken and everything and it is hard to close, so that cinched in my mind which door it was, too. But it was only briefly that I looked.

Mr Jenner

Mr. JENNER. Mr. Chief Justice, could I ask--how far away were you? You were at the kitchen door and the automobile was in the driveway, what was the distance between yourself and Mr. Oswald?

Mrs. RANDLE. Sir, I don't know. The carport will take care of two cars, and then Wesley's car was on the other side of the carport so that would be three car lengths plus in between space.

Mr. JENNER. Car widths?

Mrs. RANDLE. Car widths, excuse me.

______________________________________

Linnie could have seen LHO cross the empty lot and walk towards her carport, from her small kitchen window and could have seen IF he was carrying a large package.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097b.htm

She thought he went into her carport and she opened the kitchen door to peek out, (bottom photo)

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0096b.htm

What Linnie could see when she looked out her kitchen door (top photo)

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

Where Wesley Frazier actually parked his car (bottom photo)

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0097a.htm

IMHO... Linnie Mae Randel could have seen LHO approach her house with

(or without) a package, but she I don't think she could have seen him place the package in Wesleys car, as she testified.

Linnie's mother, Essie Mae Williams testified in an FBI Report to SA Henry

Oliver on 12/10/63,,,that she also watched LHO approah their house from their kitchen. and he was NOT carrying a brown bag or anything else. I have not yet located Essie's testimony, to verify it.

Dixie

Edited by Tom Scully

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Neighbors saw nothing

December 1st was a busy day for Odum and McNeely. They also interviewed Mr and Mrs CP Schneider, Mrs Mary Ponder, Mr and Mrs Victor Embry, Mrs James Goodwin, Mr and Mrs James Williams, and Mr and Mrs Ed Roberts. All were neighbors of the Paines and Randles. None had seen Oswald as he trudged over from the Paine residence to the Randle house on the morning of the assassination - carrying a long, bulky package or otherwise.[13] This begs the question though, as to why Oswald would risk being seen by neighbors carrying the package which, according to police, resembled a rifle case - especially if he intended using it for assassinating Kennedy later that day. One possible answer (but by no means the only) can be found in what Harry Holmes and Gus Rose said to author Larry Sneed during interviews for the book, No More Silence.

Holmes: Oswald told Fritz that the curtain rods weren't for his room, he had brought them in for a co-worker who needed some. Although some accounts say Oswald told Fritz the bag contained his lunch, he in fact told Fritz (in Holmes' presence) that the bag contained curtain rods for a co-worker.

Rose: Frazier said he didn't think the package had contained curtain rods. He suggested that Oswald leave it in the car, but Oswald refused, saying "No, I need it here." [14] If Oswald had such a package, and did "need it here [inside the TSBD]", it might indicate it contained a rifle he planned to use later with deadly intent. It may also indicate that it was curtain rods he was bringing in for an unknown fellow employee. In that regard, Holmes and Rose may just have independently corroborated each other.

The car door conundrum

In her very first statement on what she had witnessed, Linnie Mae made no mention of which car door Oswald had placed his package. She merely stated, "I saw him put it in Wesley's car". In her FBI statement made the following day, she declared she had seen him place it "in the back seat area".

By the time the FBI reinterviewed her on Dec 1, she was able to go into more detail, saying that she had seen Oswald open "the right rear door of the car" and, presuming he was getting in, turned to go back to the sink "after" hearing the car door being shut.

It was during her March 11, 1964 testimony before the Warren Commission that she finally admitted the truth. After initially repeating her earlier claims of seeing Oswald place the package in the right back seat area, she was drawn back to it later under questioning by Senator Cooper. To Cooper, she responded, "what made me establish the door on Wesley's car, it is an old car and that door, the window is broken and everything and it is hard to close, so that cinched it in my mind which door it was, too. But it was only briefly that I looked". [15] In other words, she did not see Oswald place the package in the right back seat area of the car. It was an assumption on her part. Other evidence presented here suggests either Oswald carried it in his lap the whole way – as had been the case previously, or he initially carried it that way but then threw it in the backseat at Frazier’s suggestion.

http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/jf...-randle-t24.htm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
A well put agrument imo. The bit where i get a doubt is one that arises from the use of inside lights in a car. Were cars then equipped with interior roof lights that click on manually or when the doors open?

John I beleive that the interior lights worked on cars back then when the doors opened. We had a 1953 Oldsmobile 88 whose interior lights would go on when the door was open or ajar.

Whether or not the interior light on Frazier's car worked or not I guess is speculative.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×