The Other film?

[Kathleen Collins]

Someone uploaded a short film of Jackie Kennedy getting up on the trunk and her Secret Service man running to catch the car. I have never seen this film before. It doesn't appear to be a re-enactment. It was shot behind Zapruder and you can see him briefly and part of a wall. Could this be the real film, the Other film?

I'd like to mention that this is the birthday of Karyn Kupcinet, possibly killed by a hit man. See Belzer and Wayne's "Hit List." I understand they have also gone over her murder in "Dead Wrong 2."

Kathy C

[David Andrews]

This is from the opening of the comic-book movie Watchmen.

Not a bad film, not a bad recreation.

[Kathleen Collins]

That was some re-creation. It's better than what the FBI did. I guess I'm not schooled in animation. When you call it a comic-book movie, I think of animation or graphic novels. They certainly did a good job. Even guessing what the photographer sees -- Abe Zapruder, one of the walls. This is where some researchers say the Other film was shot. Strange coincidence.

Kathy C

[Joseph Backes]

This is not real at all. I could tell before I saw 10 seconds of it. It's a very professional pan shot behind Zapruder. So, right away you should ask yourself what's wrong with that? The answer is, where's Marilyn Sitzman? She stood behind Zapruder and held him steady as he had vertigo. What he stood on is a little bit high, maybe four feet. The motorcycle escorts on Jackie's side of the car are too close, the Secret Service follow up car is too close. That's obviously not Clint Hill. He's too tall. His actions in no way match Hill's. We don't see the three men who stood on the steps on the north grassy knoll in the real Zapruder film.

They carefully end this just before you see one of the characters of the movie, "The Watchmen," called "The Comedian," was one of, if not the guy who assassinated JFK. He's seen in front of the wooden fence in the film. And you don't see him in the clip Dave Andrews provides.

See - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSAbejJhgqM

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"The Watchman," was a rather famous graphic novel. It took ideas from the Golden Age of comics, the 1940's and World War II era and had the heroes affecting and being affected by various moments in American history. The first group of heroes were somewhat akin to the first super-hero group, the Justice Society of America. But, they allowed these Watchmen to age and retire, and yes some were killed. The Comedian stayed active and bridged the gap between the two eras of heroes. The film is grounded in a second era of heroes in the mid 1980's and is told mainly from the perspective of one character, a great character called Rorschach. He had a white almost cheesecloth like mask, a face mask that was white with black ink spots that constantly changed. You wondered how he could possibly see through it. The film starts out with the death of The Comedian. Rorschach comes to believe that someone at least as powerful as The Comedian killed him, which means that someone is out to kill the heroes. His investigation leads to the discovery of a bigger problem. He brings another hero, his former partner, out of retirement.

The film has President Nixon sending in a very powerful super-hero into Vietnam who wins the war for the USA. There was no Watergate scandal in this world that forced Nixon to resign. It's implied that The Comedian killed Woodward and Bernstein. An aged Nixon is still president in 1985. And there's a nuclear arms race that is a key element to the story. One hero wants to rule the world. And one hero parades around in the nude most of the time.

It was a one shot deal, only one graphic novel. They made a movie about it. And now they have created some new comic books with these characters, and there's dolls and statutes of the heroes. And there's talk of making another movie with these characters in this world. This is what happens when a corporation owns the rights.

It was a super-hero movie a little bit ahead of its time. If you can get past the big blue naked guy there are some interesting social commentaries in the film. I would recommend it for anyone who went through the 1970's and thinks something went wrong with America, with us, during the 1960's and 1970's. It was not meant for children.

Edited March 8, 2014 by Joseph Backes

[Joseph Backes]

Damn, I had the embed code, and it worked once, but it won't work again for me. Sorry.

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Edited March 8, 2014 by Joseph Backes

[Greg Burnham]

Here you go, Joe:

[David Andrews]

I turn three-quarters of my brain off when I watch a comic-book movie, but I thought the Big Blue Guy's mournful adventures in Vietnam in Watchmen were pretty cool. No idea of the character's name, happy not knowing. A fun picture for types like us.

Maybe its morally sad and first-world of me to say I had "fun" with Vietnam that night...but then, how else does one explain the appeal of Apocalypse Now?

Edited March 8, 2014 by David Andrews

[Joseph Backes]

Well, that's why I said it was a little bit ahead of its time. I wouldn't really call it a superhero movie. It wasn't about costumes and powers. The Big Blue guy was Dr. Manhattan who had God like powers, like the JSA's The Spectre, but Dr. Manhattan was more about radioactivity. And he liked to prance around in the nude in this male super body. It was more about lies. It was about political lies. It was about remaining silent and allowing a political lie to be the new foundation for how people will now live their lives.

The villain of the movie puts Dr. Manhattan through a mind game, like a psychological warfare op. And the good Dr kind of loses control of himself while being interviewed by a guy who is clearly Ted Koppel.