Guest Eugene B. Connolly Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 (edited) Using the excellent quality 5700.jpg of Willis Photo number 8 posted by Ron and found at: http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/5700.jpg which shows BDM I have come to the conclusion that the BDM is in fact(?) a policeman(?). Please view the enlarged photos of the BDM using above 5700 photo. BDM looks to me like a policeman complete with cap (?) and badge on arm(?). Another possibility is that the person is not wearing a cap but is in fact bald. The remaining male type balding pattern hair loss can be clearly seen on the side of the head above the ear(?). Btw could it be Jack Ruby? Any views on this? I just enlarged the 5700 photo to about 600% and then copied,pasted and saved a rectangular area containing the BDM figure. I then used a small graphic programme called Mediachance Bworks to apply different filters - Normal black and white, High contrast, Low contrast, Duotone etc., etc. I did not add to or take away from the enlargement before or after applying the filters. This looks like a policeman (?) walking bent over behind the wall in order to avoid being seen. EBC Edited February 15, 2005 by Eugene B. Connolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bollschweiler Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Eugene I wanted to post two fotos but unfortunately I seem to be run out of space, hope to fix that later. But if I'm correct you can compare the Willis #5, two persons standing on the stairs comming from the knoll, with Mooreman #5, there you can see a man with a white hat, who joined the other two. As BDM seems to wear a hat wouldn't this fit? Edited February 16, 2005 by George Bollschweiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eugene B. Connolly Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 But if I'm correct you can compare the Willis #5, two persons standing on the stairs comming from the knoll, with Mooreman #5, George, Can you give me an addy for Moorman #5? Gene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bollschweiler Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Eugene, try this one, but I have a better colored copy and hope to be able to add it later. http://jfkmurderphotos.bravehost.com/photos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bollschweiler Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Eugene finally it worked for Mooreman#5 Edited October 5, 2005 by George Bollschweiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanet Clark Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Brake Lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Wagner Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Brake Lights! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep. Brake lights indeed. Now the question is, incompetence or something else? While in my mind there is no doubt of the complicity of the Secret Service leadership (Roberts on up), Rybka and Hill were obviously not in the loop and were not part of the plot, as evidenced by their actions. Also, both Greer and Kellerman have stated that they thought it was a plot and that there were more than three shots fired. Incompetence (Greer hitting the brakes/panic) then? Move over Bill Buckner- there was actually someone who choked in a more tragic and clutch situation than you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Wagner Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Notice also that we see NO brake lights on the police motorcycles. It's not significant that they were not braking, but it's valuable for comparison purposes. GG 300 WAS braking at that crucial moment- good eye Mr. Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Move over Bill Buckner- there was actually someone who choked in a more tragic and clutch situation than you! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Absolutely. Greer and Kellerman both choked. Greer slowed down to turn around and see what was going on, and Kellerman just plain froze and was unable to accurately remember what happened. While many take him at his word that Kennedy yelled out "My God I'm hit" or some such thing the fact is that the Zapruder film confirms everyone else in the car's recollection that Kennedy said nothing and that it was Connally who yelled. Ultimately, I think Kellerman is the more at fault. He should have told Greer to floor it or take evasive action or something after the first shot. Instead he said nothing and Greer took it upon himself to find out what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanet Clark Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Or just following orders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eugene B. Connolly Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 George, Thanks for the addy. Some good material here. Here is a pic I found of Dealey Plaza which gives a good idea of the layout. Gene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Rhodes Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Can somebody tell me who are the three men on the steps in the Mooreman #5 photo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanet Clark Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it is Emmett Hudson and two other unnamed men who have never come forward...generally people think they were securing the stairs and sidewalk leading back to the fence/wall area where all the "action" was. Even if you dont' believe in BADGEMAN, BLACK DOG MAN or NIX CLASSIC GUNMAN, the traffic, car tracks, cigarettes and blood make that a real hotspot -- plus people heard shots from there. They look like a team in the same way that the Dark complected man and Umbrella man do....the men who waved and then just sat down in place on the curb..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kutzer Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 and one guy stayed with Emmitt and told him to"keep down"or words to that effect....in all my years of lurking, #3 has yet to be identified or even speculated on, iirc. It has always been my opinion that Kellerman watched the whole thing in the side view mirror......fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Wagner Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 (edited) and one guy stayed with Emmitt and told him to"keep down"or words to that effect....in all my years of lurking, #3 has yet to be identified or even speculated on, iirc.It has always been my opinion that Kellerman watched the whole thing in the side view mirror......fwiw. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow. Good stuff guys. I did not realize that they were unidentified or controversial figures. I figured with their prominent positions, they would surely have been identified long ago. A team there to control access to the hot spots would make a lot of sense. Tom, what's behind your views on Kellerman? Gut feeling? Something you read somewhere? Just curious. Edited February 18, 2005 by Greg Wagner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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