Pamela Ray

Tosh,

First of all I want to nominate Wim Dankbaar for the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't know who is in charge of that but I want to be serious and let you know I'm sorry for going off on you and your past. I'm really happy you are a Christian and I mean that with all my heart. This is a very tricky place to know whom your real friends and enemies are. I don't think you are an enemy of the truth and it would be good if you and Jimmy had a man-to-man talk. You need to talk to Wim. He has met me and has heard my heart. He can tell you I doing all this for the right reasons. He called me and we had a good talk today.

Pam

This sums it up:

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"...... The Justice Department and the FBI are all part of the problem – not the solution. (Tosh, you should know that by now).....".

Pam

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I have a lot more respect for the FBI, now that J Edgar Hoover is gone. There are damn good people, men and women, working within the FBI now days and that goes for the CIA also.

Of course everyone in jail is innocent and its law enforcement's fault they are there.

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Tosh,

I never said or implied

"Of course everyone in jail is innocent and its law enforcement's fault they are there." I'm really glad for honest law enforcement and it is a rare and beautiful thing.

Since you guys are here and not responding to private email I guess I'll ask my questions and post my observations here.

Tosh when you spoke on record for government investigator Rodney Stich this is what you told him:

"The FBI report stated that 'it was his desire to establish his credibility concerning his past activities [working for government agencies and] in establishing contact with the FBI in Arizona in the event he should ever become involved in border-line activities.’ The report stated Plumlee agreed to provide a written report to the Phoenix FBI office. The report stated Plumlee was also flying for Regina Airlines and with Riddle Airlines.

It was obvious for the FBI’s own reports that they knew of the drug trafficking into the United States by the CIA and the military, and that this includes knowledge of the FBI director.” So Tosh it really does not matter who the current or past FBI director is. Same goes for the CIA and DEA. The beat goes on. I respectfully submit you are too smart to play dumb.

I was asking Wim in an email what was up with you. Here is what I said:

Wim,

I wasn't the one who posted the whole thing. I emailed it first to see if the administrator John Simkin was interested in any of it. I asked him in an email if it was too much. He did not privately answer me and put it all out there with the title To Kill a Country: The James Files Story. I would have called it The Story Behind Trying to Publish To Kill A Country.

What's with Tosh's attitude? I think it is called FEAR and NOT WANTING TO GO TO PRISON if he starts flapping off about Jimmy. If Barry Seal was still alive and in prison, Tosh would act this way towards him too. I don't want to aggravate Tosh because of his past.

"He was sent to the Miami area where he became involved in covert operations in Cuba, the Caribbean and Central America. Most of this time he flew guns and ammunition for various factions in half a dozen countries. Plumlee said he was driven by the adventure and paychecks. He explained that in his covert operations he had to keep other federal agencies form knowing about the clandestine and usually illegal operations."

Does he have many things the government could retaliate against him with? You better believe it. Does he think it is worth validating me and what Jimmy is saying? I don't think so. He knows first hand how these people are and if you threaten them by exposure in a credible way (like saying "Yep Jimmy did the headshot on Kennedy. Roselli told me later he chickened out and Jimmy did the shooting.") ...it's hasta la vista baby.

"Kennedy is as dead as that crabmeat! You gonna line up with a dead man? Governments gonna dance all over your head Jimbo, and when they do it's buh bye Dean-o..." Remember how that works? Wim this isn't an Oliver Stone movie and we are meddling with the powers of darkness. Tosh a Christian? I seriously doubt it but I hope so. I've never shot a bird with a B-B gun let alone participated in KILLING COUNTRIES. He has a lot of nerve questioning my motives to tell Jimmy's story.

"Plumlee described the operation known as Operation Grasshopper, which was a top secret military operation, and involved such notable drug traffickers as Barry Seal. He described the protection of the government's involvement in drug trafficking by other government agencies, including the Mexican-American Special Operations Group (AMSOG) whose function was to block drug trafficking. He said that Barry Seal was an operative in this group in its early days.

Plumlee described the brutal murder of a former Air America pilot in Quedo Loco Lobo, near Oaxaca in Southwestern Mexico by a Mexican named Pepe Suequez. Plumlee described how the informant described the killing of the American pilot, Maurice Louis Gonzales, was horribly mutilated and left to die in a Mexican prison for informing American authorities of what had happened."

Not nice guys eh? Tosh knows the game well. Jimmy and I are not worth it to him and I understand why. Same for Zack. It isn't worth losing the FBI pension and everything by being a real whistle blower. Jimmy says I give Zack too much credit for being smart. He might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but he surly isn't the dullest. What is the story on Zack's happy handshake occasion with GHWB? Does Kenny know yet that you and Bob were the source of FBI problems and not me? It would be nice to have some help from his friends that think I'm an FBI agent.

Pam

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From: Wim Dankbaar

To: Pam

Cc: Daniel Marvin

Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 2:41 AM

Subject: What was your goal

in posting that long narrative? What were you trying to achieve?

W

Hello All-

I'm new here, so please forgive my inexperience. After reading several threads over the last few weeks, I realize that I am likely less informed on this topic than most of you. But here goes:

There is certainly no shortage of angles to approach this from and all are worthwile, important, and must be investigated. But regardless of which theory of the events in DP one subscribes to, the fact that the U.S. Government and the major media in this country refuse address or acknowledge the concerns surrounding an event of this magnitude, one that was a major turning point in our nation's history, to me is the most damning indictment of complicity at the highest levels of Government. Although I would certainly expect nothing else out of "W" or his father, who in my mind must have at least known of the plot given his position and Texas connections, but what about men like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton? Carter strikes me as a good and decent man who would not participate in such a cover-up. And Clinton, regardless of what you think of him, was a very popular President who admired JFK. And yet they never uttered a peep! What I wouldn't give to have a few beers alone with one of them and pop the question. Or what about someone who would arguably be even more powerful, like a Rob Walton (worth $20 billion), a Bill Gates (worth $60 Billion), or even a George Soros (worth several billion). Do they not care. Or are even they being controlled? My point is, how can Presidents, Senators like Ted Kennedy and John McCain, and captains of industry like Gates, the Walton's, Soros, Buffet (Warren, not Jimmy), Paul Allen, Larry Ellison, etc. all be under someone's control? Sure, some of these guys (or maybe all of them) are political conservatives, but I have to believe that at least a few of them are good men. And frankly, with that kind of wealth and power, it's very frightening to think that someone could be so much more powerful as to intimidate them.

Sorry if I'm rambling, but that is a part of this whole deal that is most troubling for me. If my theory of the events in DP are correct (conspiracy spear-headed by right-wing elements of the CIA and Pentagon in conjunction with Big Oil and Defense contractors), then the cover-up is still intact. And that means that the perprtrators have been running the Country ever since, up to and including today.

So, to sum up...  what the hell?!? Does anyone think that there is a chance that one of the aforementioned (or someone else with the means to speak out and be heard and be considered credible) will ever grow a pair, decide to do right by the Country that allowed them to achieve their great economic or political success, and help in this fight? It's amazing how far the research of private citizens has taken this cause. But I can't help but wonder how much longer the enemy could hold it together if we had a national figure, with credibility and significant economic and/or political power, to step out and lead this cause.

Thank you very much for the forum. I really appreciate all of your posts and research.

Greg

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Greg,

Welcome aboard the train.

For General information check out former government investigator Rodney Stich and his exhaustive work.

For information about Clinton just type in "Clinton Body Count".

For Bush do the same, "Bush Body Count".

For Bill Gates type in "Bilderberg members NWO".

For Carter do a search with "Trilateral Commission and Nelson Rockefeller".

For John McCain "Keating Five Cover-up" Looting the Savings and Loans.

For Warren Buffet "Arnold for President".

For overall mayhem look up Illuminati and international bankers.

Follow the money.

This should help get you started. Warning!!! Studying about all this leads to ultimate frustration when you realize you're a mouse fightin' a gorilla. If we all fight the gorilla, instead of each other, then maybe we can get our country back.

Peace.

Pam

This sums it up:

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From:

To: <dank@xs4all.nl>

Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 2:49 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: FYI

Wim:

Even though I dont know Bob Vernon personally I would guess that he is going "off his rocker". He is losing his mind.

I am happy to see that you have the JFK/James Files property which you rightfully purchased. I am also happy to see Bob Vernon losing his mind over this fact.

Thanks Wim and take care.

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Wim,

I truly thank you for the help you have extended to me. I plan on honoring our book deal when To Kill a Country is finally put out to the public.

Like I have always said, we agree on pretty much everything except the...FBI. Let's please not get into it.

Jimmy isn't mad at you for having his property that Vernon took from him and never returned. Thank you for respecting the fact he doesn't want to get more time and would like to spend a little time on earth with me.

Pam

Here is a post I put on the To Kill a Country thread for Nancy and Bob:

Nancy,

Take a deep breath and settle down. I'll be back in a minute.

Tosh and Richard,

I won't go away that easy.

Nancy,

For quite a while I have been meaning to let you know what is really going on. James Files has been playing head games with you to play head games with Bob Vernon.

I think it has been quite successful. I'm sorry I didn't tell you sooner.

Please forgive me.

Can you please pass on a message to Mr. Vernon? Please tell Bob to give it up. The Justice Department and the FBI are all part of the problem – not the solution. (Tosh, you should know that by now)

Pam

History, one thousand years hence, will see a shorthand record of the state-approved coup d’etat.  The future’s historians will see a group of World War II-era presidents, followed by the assassination of President Kennedy and right then,  almost simultaneously, the rapid ratification of the twenty-fifth amendment to the United States Constitution. Then the futile Southeast Asian land war,  the Civil Rights Acts and urban race riots.

Other details about the decades will recede, one thousand years from now, the Beatles, maybe, a walk on the Moon -  just shorthand survives - in the future historians’ understanding of our United States history. 

I won’t dig out my T.B. MacCaulay, my Thomas Carlyle, my Tott, Elton, or my dusty old Edward Gibbon for you,  but suffice it to say, as one who has read political history,  that kings and emperors wrote and re-wrote the record of their illegitimate ascensions, at will and after the fact, thoughout all of our recorded history, across the world.

To believe in them makes you a positivist, a sucker, a naïve believer in progress and the State’s eternal accuracy, honesty and diligence. 

I will not footnote or add a bibliography to this piece. The information you all are aware of, it is public and the facts are well known. I believe the theme, the thesis, the theory I present here follows from the facts, both inductively and deductively. Inductively, it makes sense of all the specifics, all the questionable government acts - and deductively it follows from this general principle: People in power tend to cover their tracks when they arrive illegitimately.

Historically, however one got into office, if he was finally. Emperor or King or President, it was legal. It had to be “legal.”

Now in the civil republic that we call the United States, in fall of 1963, certain forms were followed and certain associations were formed.

Acts were committed that were apparently crimes, but they were actually quite “legal,” under the secret regulations and security clearances then in existence,  inside the Pentagon and White House, and then made legal again - 

The trace of the actions and the identities of the actors are found in a few paragraphs of Constitutional forgiveness, the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, written in 1965 and ratified in 1967. A kind of ‘killing under color of law’ theory emerges from the  study of the period, from the biographies and history of the U.S. leadership in the 1960s.

Much hinges on the Cabinet. The 25th amendment tells us that all or part of the  Cabinet majority, with the Vice President also on board,  shall have the power to decide on the incapacity of the sitting president. This means the role of Treasury Secretary C.D. Dillon becomes crucial in the deed and the aftermath.  By deed and aftermath I mean principally,  the Dealey Plaza ambush and the Warren Commission’s investigation. Read the twenty-fifth amendment, Vice President Lyndon Johnson is in there, and so is Treasury Secretary C. Douglass Dillon.

The Treasury Secretary is the top of the chain of command for the Secret Service. If Occam’s Razor points to too many suspects, then a unity forms from that, a super-ordinate explanation, an over-arching scheme, both simple and comprehensive. All is explained by the scenario described, in 1965, in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.

The subsequent rationale, or ex post facto legislation - which ratifies a change in government after the fact, this technique is as old as the written language.

Lyndon Baines Johnson, Douglass Dillon, J. Edgar Hoover, the powerful Dulles brothers, these cabinet members  and cabinet-level advisors to Kennedy and Johnson. They are mentioned in the U.S. Constitution. They could decide upon the President’s incapacity to perform as commander.

The militant reactionary political enemies of John Kennedy  formed powerful nodes of power in the web of secret defense interests. It is the unspeakable reality of American political violence which is at historical issue.  In 1963 mercenaries and Mafiosos were engaged full-time in the Caribbean  and along the Gulf Coast of the U.S., that traditionally unstable US tropical southern border (since Dutch, Spanish and French times, and the war of 1899).  Cuba, a right wing mob casino paradise, was lost to the radical, Fidel Castro. John Kennedy failed to initiate the armed air invasion plans the CIA had hoped for and the Bay of Pigs failed miserably.

Now we all know that John Kennedy was a charismatic and intellectually bright man,  but he had a strong egocentric aspect, and orgies of all kinds generally followed closely on his person and his staff.  After spending a lifetime considering critically the scope and magnitude of what I know and what I know I know, through both cognition and metacognition, deductive and inductive reasoning, published and private sources:

I know it was an inside job, it was a government job, and it was put up to important people as a fait accompli, “a done deal.”

The assassination was presented to Lyndon Johnson, C.D. Dillon, J. Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon, as a done deal, a fait accompli.  This was done by the spies, Kennedy’s enemies.  The militant force used the security mechanisms in place to declare John Fitzgerald Kennedy unfit for security clearances and sensitive positions of authority.

Someone in defense intelligence or the CIA circa 1963 took this intelligence upstairs: “Well, Jack’s now takin’ the Sandoz doses with Cord Meyer’s wacky wife. We were pretty sure we had him on the syphilis charge but this LSD thing they’re on now, he’s crazy now, totally mentally unfit do to anything as commander in chief,  He’s clinically, criminally, chronically insane, according to Caption b subsection A, paragraph E, and so on …”

My theory doesn’t hinge on Jack Kennedy using LSD, or having syphilis, or even suffering from Addison’s adrenal deficiency. My theory hinges on the willingness of the spies, his enemies, to declare him incompetent, and I think that is a reasonable conclusion.

And so that was that, from the Plans Directorate and 111th they scrambled to work, and the angry Cuban Alpha 66 group did the heavy lifting, with their partners, the mob. Douglass Dillon, Kennedy’s inexplicable choice for Treasury secretary, was the ultimate head of the Secret Service in 1963.  The fix was in, and it was “legal,” due to incapacity.

Why Jack Kennedy made Clarence D. Dillon the head of the U.S. Treasury, no one will ever know.  Dillon, Reed & Co. was a Wall Street institution, I guess, and C.D.Dillon was a sort of late model Andrew Mellon for President Kennedy.  An attempt at bipartisan Cabinet leadership, a sop to the right. Anyway, C.D. Dillon ran the 1963 Secret Service, a branch of Treasury, (the Untouchables) and he and the CIA put the thing in place, and then they covered up the assassination with the Warren Commission and the Twenty Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

Nothing else explains the route, the failure to prepare, the lack of running boards on Jack’s presidential limousine.

Why no running boards, why drive at walking speed, why the slow detour? We can’t blame a building or a fence or a knoll, people did this. They think they committed no crime. But they implicated themselves in the apologia, which is the 25th Amendment.

Lyndon, who was elevated to the now compromised (or politically constrained) Presidency, was sitting in the Oval Office while the 25th Amendment went through. After that Cabinet members and a V.P. had the power to incapacitate the President.

This organic legislation, a fundamental addendum to the republic’s Constitution, implicates Clarence Douglass Dillon  (whose name was on the currency in the 1960’s),  the amendment indicts Vice President Johnson and other cabinet level advisors in the defense and domestic security web, it explains the acts of Johnson’s friend and protector, J. Edgar Hoover, and possibly Sect. Robert MacNamara, and possibly Sect. Dean Rusk.

This top-down scheme allows for the coordinated order of events seen in the event and its aftermath.  The amount of troubling illogic in the murder and all the bizarre aftermath points to a Program, a Program approved by at least a few heads of Cabinet.

Jack was a playboy, a movie star, a total wild man. The people that lived up his rear-end, taping him, snapping pictures and listening in, they caught him being very naughty, and they took the case upstairs.  Incapacity.

Dulles got on board with all his baggage. The plan came off the books, the plane was off down the runway, and at Dealey Plaza the deal went down...

You may say where are your sources, Shanet Clark?  Show me that the Vice President and the Cabinet Secretaries set up Jack Kennedy, show me where the listening posts caught him tripping out and going wild… and show me where he was declared incapacitated by security personnel.

Let’s just say I heard it from an usually reliable source. In the future, this will be the conventional wisdom, and all the rough consensus about  a government conspiracy points toward this explanation, the “legal” model.

Sources? The Twenty-fifth amendment, that’s about as primary as you get, and the Warren Commission, and all it suggests, and neglects, that is primary, that is substantive, that is contemporary.  Another source is confidential, but well placed to know. 

Affidavits of the assassins and the assassin’s helpers, and the investigative reporting of Seymour Hersh, and the late Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Dorothy Kilgallen, and the behavior of the 1963 Secret Service in the primary document, a color film by Abraham Zapruder, and the photos of the railroad overpass crowded with people over Kennedy’s bloody head…is that a primary source,  a film of a walking speed open-car ambush?

The top guys did it. Those that control the FBI, the Naval Hospital, military intelligence, and secret service would never have co-operated without orders from higher-ups. I present a coherent, compelling, cohesive hypothesis, a theory to explain the facts.

In Dallas, Mr. Barnes was there, and Mr. McCord, Eugene Brading and Jimmy Files, Niccolletti the hit man, Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis, Johnny Roselli, and Dave Morales, Lansdale the ugly American, he was there, and all together, so it looks like a government job, with mob contractors participating, similar to what was planned for Castro.

I’m a patriotic American and I wish the current officeholders of the  Secret Service, Pentagon and the Treasury well, I really do.

But in 1963 the Republican Treasury Secretary C.Douglass Dillon was a responsible party. Lyndon Johnson was a responsible party. John Edgar Hoover was  in authority. Alan Dulles and the Cabell brothers were responsible. Ed Clark was  implicated. Tracy Barnes was implicated. William Harvey was implicated. Dave Morales was implicated. Clint Murchison was implicated.  H.L. Hunt was implicated. David Attlee Phillips and Desmond Fitzgerald were involved in the murder, and they were gung-ho patriotic Americans.

The team of mercenaries and hitmen that had worked under federal control in the late 50’s were also implicated; Sam Giancanna, Mr. Marcello, Mr. Trafficante, the infamous Johnny Rosselli, Mr. Niccoletti and his driver Jimmy Files, they were all implicated. And the medical crews, and the FBI, and the Dallas police, who failed to protect the suspect. Oswald, who was lost to history, made one substantive statement “I am a patsy.”  His career in counter-intelligence is evidence for my theory.

A highly-classified document once existed, it was the authorization for the executive action.  Incapacity (with the eye dotted and the tee crossed) of the Commander in Chief;  JFK was stripped of his security clearances, and his removal was officially authorized.

But in the Constitution itself is another rapidly written, but after the fact, rationale. This is an ex-post facto, presidential ascension, legitimacy rationale, a document like the ones we have seen so many times in British and Roman history.  It was a national security crisis…and John Kennedy was clinically insane, from drugs. Kennedy was declared clinically incapacitated and was stripped of his security clearance, because he had indulged in the psychedelic LSD-25, which the CIA had introduced  for mind control and human experimentation in the Chemical Warfare Program MK/ULTRA.  The same agencies had spied on Kennedy and discovered this mistake.

The Twenty-fifth amendment gives cover to the events of November, 1963; especially since the Vice President and some of his Cabinet level advisors were still in power in 1965 when it was composed,  and even in 1967, when it became law,  ratified in “the summer of love.”

Why this sudden rush to radically re-write the rules for a Presidential succession? Dallas and the unusual ascension of Lyndon Baines Johnson was the motivation.

What laws or rules drive good historical theory? Theories explaining evidence must be concise, compelling, coherent, cohesive. The simplest scheme possible to explain all the known facts and misunderstandings. Occam’s razor, or the law of parsimony should drive theory derived from evidence. Keep it simple stupid. No bells and whistles.

So with the Kennedy assassination, a simple answer, an explanation, at last. But damn it is hard to swallow, despicable murder…like Julius Ceasar, or Alexander II.

This was a story of top-down orders, from the VP and a Cabinet bloc.  The Commander-in-chief had suffered “incapacity.” During the Cold War, involving the Cuban mercenaries, and secret nuclear operations…

Johnson, Hoover, C.D. Dillon, Alan Dulles, the Warren Commission and the Twenty-Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, how does all this fit together? A top down, top level security crisis, an executive action, a non-crime, a “legal” event.

May God in Heaven bless our martyred leader, John F. Kennedy, and God protect us all.

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Right on Shanet.

Don't forget to add Nelson Rockefeller and Gerald Ford to the list of beneficiaries of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment to the Constitution ratified in 1967. Rockefeller didn't have a "legal" chance to get elected in 1964 so...

Pam

"When I asked if the CIA and Mossad worked together back in 1963, James Files mentioned to me there were Mossad people present in Dealey Plaza he recognized. He didn’t want to elaborate other than “they had their aerial pictures and Langley had theirs” because he wasn’t sure if that was still classified information.

If you follow this trail you will end up in the past and current White House and the wars in the Middle East-in fact all the wars in SE Asia, South and Central America, Africa - basically all the wars. Yes the drugging and terrorizing of America is part of this safari but you will find the people you are looking for to solve this case.

Hard line Israel played a major role in the 1980 October Surprise scandal with none other that George H.W. Bush as one of the big league players. This led to the Iran-Contra scandal, the Clintons in power...domestic and foreign state sponsored terrorism...

When this area is touched upon a spiritual and Biblical thread is woven into the conspiracy. Throw in the false evangelical prophets supporting this genocide and you get the picture. Since most people are not familiar with Zionism vs. true Judaism, an important part of this complex puzzle remains a mystery, a riddle wrapped in an enigma."

"What do people here think about this subject?"

What do I think about your dissertation that Israel is responsible for every bad thing that's ever happened in the last 50 years? Israel was behind the assassination? In league with the mob and James Files? Iran Contra? Domestic and state sponsored terrorism??

At the risk of censure, you make me ill. You are a prime example of the lunatic fringe.

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What is past is prologue…dedicated to the young in whose spirit the search for the truth marches on.

JFK

Richard,

When Eisenhower gave his farewell speech I was just a tot. I’m young at heart and I’m marching towards the truth. See ya.

An excellent article Tim. Thank you for those notes and references, this has given me a lot of leads I want to explore.

Like you I am convinced that Kennedy’s foreign policy holds the key to understanding his death. It is also highly significant that he tried to keep this policy secret from the CIA. I suspect the main reason for this is that he suspected that they would leak this information to his political opponents. It has to be remembered that in 1963 Kennedy owed his popularity because of his image of being a successful Cold War warrior. In reality, he was trying to bring an end to the Cold War. If this had got out, he would probably have lost to Goldwater in 1964.

Although I believe that the assassination of JFK was carried out by anti-Castro Cubans, I am not convinced that it was this group who organized it. I say this because the anti-Castro forces did not obtain their objective in killing JFK. Cuba was not invaded and Castro was not overthrown, even though all the evidence after the first couple of days suggested that it was indeed a Cuban/Soviet operation. Why? I have attempted to answer this in my seminar. (1) This is of course pure speculation on my part, as we will never be able to find out what was really going on in the head of Johnson in the days following the assassination.

One thing is certain, the anti-Castro Cubans would have felt a sense of betrayal. I think this comes out in the book, The Bay of Pigs by Hayes Johnson, Manuel Artime, Jose Perez San Roman, Erneido Oliva and Enrique Ruiz-Williams. (2) Hostility is not shown towards the Kennedys (they especially approve of the efforts made by the brothers to get their comrades released from prison in Cuba). Their hostility is towards the CIA and right-wing figures in America who they felt abandoned them after the Bay of Pigs.

There were two main groups who benefited from the death of Kennedy.

(1) Wealthy figures involved in the oil industry. The assassination of Kennedy allowed the oil depletion allowance to be kept at 27.5 per cent. It remained unchanged during the Johnson presidency. Soon after Johnson left office it dropped to 15 per cent. According to Robert Sherrill, Johnson played an important role in its introduction. (3) A close friend of Johnson was Robert Anderson, president of the Texas Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association. Johnson and Sid Richardson managed to persuade Eisenhower to appoint Anderson as Secretary of Treasury (interestingly, they also tried to persuade Eisenhower to make Anderson his running mate in 1956 – however, he rejected this idea and kept Nixon). A few weeks after his appointment, Anderson was appointed to a cabinet committee to look at the oil industry. It was as a result of this committee that changes were made to the tax system to benefit certain figures in the oil industry (these measures actually hurt the small oil companies). 

(2) The Military Industrial Complex was the group that really benefited from the death of Kennedy. The end of the Cold War would have been disastrous for them. Instead, they got the Vietnam War and a massive increase in military spending. In fact, it could be argued, that it suited the MIC to have Castro in power in Cuba. This was a constant reminder to the American people why they needed to spend so much of the GNP on defending the country from the menace of communism. It communism could reach an island just a few hundred miles off the coast, surely it could reach America as well.

I am sure Eisenhower became aware of what Johnson was up to during his presidency. I believe Eisenhower’s last speech as president is highly significant. (4) Did you know that it was censored at the last moment. The original speech did not use the phrase the “Military Industrial Complex”. It originally used the phrase the “Military Industrial Congress Complex”. Eisenhower’s point was that senior politicians was involved in this conspiracy. At the last moment he was persuaded to remove the word "Congress". Eisenhower would have had Johnson in mind when he said this.

For those who don’t know it, this is what Eisenhower said in his last speech:

Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.

This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen...

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence - economic, political, even spiritual - is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Notes

(1) http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2310

(2) Haynes Johnson, The Bay of Pigs (1964)

(3) Robert Sherrill, The Accidental President  (1967) 142-147

(4) Dwight Eisenhower, speech on the Military-Industrial Complex (17th January, 1961)

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“Like you I am convinced that Kennedy’s foreign policy holds the key to understanding his death. It is also highly significant that he tried to keep this policy secret from the CIA. I suspect the main reason for this is that he suspected that they would leak this information to his political opponents. It has to be remembered that in 1963 Kennedy owed his popularity because of his image of being a successful Cold War warrior. In reality, he was trying to bring an end to the Cold War. If this had got out, he would probably have lost to Goldwater in 1964.”

While examining all the aspects of communism, anti-communism, Cubans, the CIA, FBI, NSA, secret assassination groups, the military-industrial-complex, etc in the role of JFK’s assassination, one must never forget the politics of Zionism that played a huge part in his death.

JFK was trying put pressure on Israel to give up their nuclear ambitions. He died and they got the bomb.

This aspect of the overall conspiracy is hardly discussed in forum groups. For those wanting more information, one good source is Michael Collins Piper’s book

Final Judgment: the Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy

http://feralnews.com/issues/jfk/piper/piper.html

"There has been since almost the earliest days of the Israeli state and the earliest days of the CIA a secret bond, basically by which Israeli intelligence did jobs for the CIA and for the rest of American intelligence. You can't understand what's been going on with American covert operations and the Israeli covert operations until you understand this secret arrangement."

When I asked if the CIA and Mossad worked together back in 1963, James Files mentioned to me there were Mossad people present in Dealey Plaza he recognized. He didn’t want to elaborate other than “they had their aerial pictures and Langley had theirs” because he wasn’t sure if that was still classified information.

If you follow this trail you will end up in the past and current White House and the wars in the Middle East-in fact all the wars in SE Asia, South and Central America, Africa - basically all the wars. Yes the drugging and terrorizing of America is part of this safari but you will find the people you are looking for to solve this case.

Many have passed on but many are still playing the game. Hard line Israel played a major role in the 1980 October Surprise scandal with none other that George H.W. Bush as one of the big league players. This led to the Iran-Contra scandal, the Clintons in power...domestic and foreign state sponsored terrorism...it does not matter the label of Democrat or Republican.

I don’t know if the people want it solved or just if it is just too much to comprehend. What do people here think about this subject?

When this area is touched upon a spiritual and Biblical thread is woven into the conspiracy. Throw in the false evangelical prophets supporting this genocide and you get the picture. Since most people are not familiar with Zionism vs. true Judaism, an important part of this complex puzzle remains a mystery, a riddle wrapped in an enigma.

The previous post should be noticed: It takes one to know one. This was a well planned hit and did not just pop to the surface overnight; an operation ran by a few 'good old buddy' type personal who just decided one day to kill a President because they were pissed. Covert OPS don't work that way.These assault teams, three in all were "shadow personal" to be used once and then past into the voids of lost and none existence operations. There was or is a world out there that the average 8 to 5 personal can even begun to comprehend. We have to look beyond the norm and forget the land of names and faces. These assassins were a special breed. A hit and disappear team; a team drifting through that plaza much like a vapor. Years later these same type teams used to prowl the jungles of southeast Asia and Central America. To find them is like chasing a shadow. By the time you see their hit, they are gone and your left scratching your head wondering which way they went. Thats 'Black Ops" Its a specialty. Some take pride in it even today.

http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/bush&jfk.shtml

BUSH & THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK

THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: THE NIXON-BUSH CONNECTION

by Paul Kangas

This is an older article but deserves attention.

In Daniel Hopsicker’s Barry & ‘the boys’ The CIA, The Mob and America's Secret History, c2001, Hopsicker’s research substantiates many “outrageous” claims this article puts forth. I can give page numbers from his book if it is helpful for researchers. It is obvious to me Bush and Nixon had a large part in the assassination and cover-up.

In response to what Tosh posted, here you have a mini biography of James Files life.

Exposing this ongoing behavior to the public is why we are trying to publish To Kill A Country. Lawsuits and ongoing FBI problems continue to be the reason our book is not in print and out to the public.

I have been working with James Files and I am currently trying to get To Kill A Country published.