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I spent a lot of time researching the fingerprint evidence a few years back, but got pulled away from this research when my son was born, and never got back to it.
Congratulations on your son, Pat.
I hope you named him Patrick after his father,
because my own father was also named Patrick,
and my youngest son is Sean Patrick.
We just welcomed our second grandchild,
who bears the salubrious name of Ava Lilly Beckett.
I can now claim to belong to a literary family,
since my sister married a Joyce,
and my daughter married a Beckett.
I really appreciate this summary Pat, and your own analysis.
I have some suspicions of my own that I intend to follow up on,
and will report in due course.
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Pat Speer wrote this on the TSBD/OZ thread,
This is important because it also says Day lifted prints from the rifle.
There is NO record of this lift within the DPD's files from the 22nd.
It seems possible they were disappeared.../]
Pat: This comes as a complete shock to me, unless I am simply forgetting.
Did not Day testify that he lifted a palm print in Dallas, but did not get a chance to compare it
before the FBI took it.
Please help straighten me out on this Pat, it would be much appreciated.
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It is, in a nutshell, a A Tale of Two Fictions being mongrelized into a Third:
You are truly are on your own,
in my book, Sean.
They broke the mould
the day they made
Prayerman Sean Murphy,
who hasn't learned to quit
when he's already won the race,
in my book at least.
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I just stumbled upon this by chance,
and do not recall seeing it discussed here.
Does anyone seriously believe that Milteer was glum-faced and baldy in Dallas
when better evidence tells us
Milteer was hairy and happy in Georgia.
We have no evidence Milteer knew in advance
that Dallas would be the designated kill zone,
do we?
New Evidence of a Conspiracy Uncovered in 'From an Office Building with a High-Powered Rifle,' by Don Adams! By John G. Kays
MILITANT HATE GROUPS AND THE ULTRA RIGHT WING Although there is no formal link between these factions, there is a very strong likelihood that personnel involved in the assassination also had ties to one or more of these groups: the National States Rights Party, the Minutemen, the Ku Klux Klan, the White Citizens` Council, the American Constitution Party, and various other groups with a similar philosophy. We know that Joseph Milteer, a Right Wing extremist, appeared to have advance knowledge of the plot to kill Kennedy. He described the planned assassination to a police informant in amazing detail. He was later photographed in Dealey Plaza. - Page 414 from High Treason, by Robert J. Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone - Berkley Books - 1990 (paperback edition).
On Saturday, November 3rd, at around 10:30 AM, I was browsing the shelves ofBook People (here in Austin, Texas), specifically in the `conspiracy section,` when I came upon a new title I`d never seen before, From an OFFICE BUILDING with a HIGH-POWERED RIFLE - A report to the public from an FBI agent involved in the official JFK assassination investigation, by Don Adams (Trine Day 2012). `Well,` I thought to myself, `I`ll probably miss that one,` brazenly thinking I already had mastered everything there was to know about JFK`s assassination, as well as the obvious conspiracy that made that event the most horrific nightmare our nation has ever experienced. In short order, however, I came to believe I
That is, upon more careful examination, I realized Mr. Adams had some actual new evidence to give us, that tends to prove that FBI agents, who he worked for, had to set him up to play what I`ll call a `decoy role` in the cover-up of the assassination. The truth is, Don Adams is still not quite sure how and why senior FBI agents used him in the manner they did. He does know, however, that they did set him up to provide an innocuous report on Joseph Adams Milteer, a right-wing extremist who had foreknowledge that JFK would be shot from an office building with a high-powered rifle. How did Milteer know this on 11/9/1963 (when taped by Willie Somersett in Miami), if he wasn`t in on it?
Well, I did purchase the book, it was expensive, $25, but I needed to know badly what Don Adams had discovered many years later, when he was shown a photograph of Joseph Milteer, that was in the book High Treason. I read that bit (in the book) at Book People and thought to myself, `I had a copy of High Treason at one time, and I remember the photo of Milteer on Main Street watching the presidential motorcade pass by.` That is, I also recall this was pretty much definitely proven to be Milteer, no doubt about it. On Saturday, November 10th, I made a scramble over to the University of Texas General Libraries, and procured a paperback copy of High Treason!
I`m getting a little ahead of myself, sorry; rewind the tape a ways back to the 3rd, when I returned home with the FBI Special Agent in Charge`s (SAC) written account of how he encountered evidence of a conspiracy to kill the president, engineered in part by officers working in his agency, that starts with an assignment he was given by SAC James McMahon on November 13, 1963 to track down Joseph Milteer, who had apparently made death threats towards the President in Indianapolis, Indiana (in October of 1963). Over the next few days, I eagerly read Adams` entire book, practically not believing what he was telling me. I don`t want to spoil it for you, but why had his superiors altered his documents to show Milteer was in Quitman, Georgia at the time of the assassination, when there`s compelling evidence to demonstrate Joseph A. was really in Dallas on that tumultuous, tragic day?
Don Adams publishes many of the false documents he came across at the National Archives when looking about for remnants of his original investigation, conducted in the fall of 1963. Why had his superiors (Royal McGraw, James McMahon, and Charles Harding, from the Atlanta Office) doctored up his reports? That is, he suspects they were the ones who altered his reports and also created new reports that covered up Milteer`s known Dallas visit? *(See Doc # 1 reproduction on page 61, an FBI teletype that falsely claims Milteer was in Quitman on the 22nd).
Why were these FBI agents protecting Joseph Milteer, a known racist, and a well established hater of Kennedy? And why hadn`t they alerted him to the chilling death- threat against the President in Miami on November 9th? This was tape recorded by controversial informant, Willie Somersett, and the FBI Atlanta field office was aware of it, yet they didn`t tell Don Adams about this well documented threat, while (at the same time) sending him on an assignment to investigate Milteer`s shady undertakings (two weeks before the assassination)? Were they bating Joseph A. as a Right Wing patsy, while simultaneously partially protecting him (to deflect the future investigation away from the centrifugal forces of culpability)?
Meticulous examination of the primary documents in Don Adams` monograph is required. Why had they also forged Milteer`s height from 5`8" to 5`5"? The falsification of his height was the basis for eliminating the possibility (by both the Warren Commission and by HSCA) that a person resembling Milteer watched the motorcade breeze by on Main Street. Adams knew he was 5`8" and this would verify his presence in this photograph. Besides, Joseph A. spoke on the phone with Willie Somersett two hours before the assassination. He was calling from Dallas!
After completing Don Adams revelatory confession of how he was duped by his `trusty` FBI colleagues (back in 1963), and after adding it to (and synthesizing it with) what I have already learned over the years (regarding constructs about how the conspiracy was put in place), I began to piece Milteer into the complex puzzle in such a way, that a modicum of compatibility could preside, side by side with well known portions of the plot, that have been transparent from the get go. That is, a great deal of inconsistency need not be factored in (with previous failsafe constructs of connivance and malfeasance).
These conspirators, probably a cabal of rogue CIA agents, but in cantankerous cahoots with various parties of the FBI, and a select few of the ultra-conservative (rich and powerful) oil men (like H. L. Hunt), pitched forth two patsies, either of which could take the blame for killing Kennedy. This was done in order to conceal their own guilt. That is, Lee Oswald was their patsy decoy for the Left, while Joseph A. Milteer was a posturing patsy on the Extreme Right. Yet it is my belief that Milteer was allowed to live; he hadn`t penetrated the centrifuge of the conspiracy. On the other hand, Lee had to die, he worked for the CIA and knew the actual parties who engineered the devastation going down in Dealey Plaza.
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Please refrain from this silliness, Ray. We are not here to amuse ourselves at the expense of others, or dispense "warnings" and threats, even in jest.
Joking aside, Pat, what do you think of the argument that the 2nd floor Baker encounter
is somehow a cooked-up story?
What I want to know is:
Why would they cook up a story
that exonerates Lee Oswald?
Surely no one with half a brain
ever believed the story
that a young workman
learned his leader would be passing
so he shot his fearless leader
and then went fumbling
for pocket change
to get a coke
from the coke machine.
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duplicate
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Carrying the sacred body
of our most Sacred Poet:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4SjqZcJ8c
Seamus Heaney,
John F. Kennedy
And myself
All love
Tommy Makem
And
the Clancy Boys From
Tipperary
My native Place
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As we have seen, giving Baker and Truly a route up the front stairs to the second floor and then through the second floor towards the rear stairway in the northwest corner of the building meant that Baker could have a realistic way of seeing into the lunchroom and noticing Oswald.
As we have also seen, Baker would reach the same result by doing what he said he did
and what the totality of evidence PROVES he did, but Prayer Man Murphy religiously refuses to see.
Now can anyone seriously believe that this in situ reconstruction was undertaken by the Secret Service of the United States of America without either Roy Truly or Marrion Baker, the two protagonists in the Oswald sighting, being consulted first?Sean, I suggest you read David Lifton and Vincent Michael Palamara before you put your religious faith in the Secret Service.
Or that it is quite so easy to dismiss as a case of crossed wires the information that had been given to the press by Jesse Curry only the day after the assassination: "He was sitting in the lunchroom and one of my officers drew a weapon on him"?
Crossed wires, from first to last?
No--just a messily evolving fairytale.
One of the first things I realized when I began studying this casemore than a quarter century ago,is that Jesse Curry did not have the foggiest,not the foggiest.I am warning you right now, Murphy,if you keep up with this nonsenseI will keep playingThe Pub With No Beerand I've got fifty bucks say Robin Unger supports me.And if you get me really mad, Sean, I will start playing scenesfrom my favorite movie,just to get your goat: -
Mr. BAKER - As I came out to the second floor there, Mr. Truly was ahead of me, and as I come out I WAS KIND OF SCANNING you know, the rooms, and I caught a glimpse of this man walking away from this--I happened to see him through this window in this door.
AND WHEN I GOT TO WHERE I COULD SEE HIM he was walking away from me about 20 feet away from me in the lunchroom.
Thank you Robert.
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Many thanks for the kind words, Robert, and you are of course quite right--Baker had nothing close to a line of sight from his position on the second-floor landing into the lunchroom.
You are forgetting something, Sean.
Baker testified that he planned to check each floor,
if I am not mistaken.
Your theory is based on the false premise
that Baker testified that he checked each floor
but not the second floor.
By Baker's own testimony we can draw the inference
that he deliberately checked the 2nd floor
by deliberately entering the lunchroom,
as part of his plan to check each floor.
It would only be peculiar if he HAD NOT
checked that lunchroom!
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Seamus would want his wake
to be merry
with songs like this one
about hard-working,
hard-drinking
humorous lads,
like McALpine's Fusiliers:
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Former US president Bill Clinton praised Seamus Heaney
Our Finest Poet
Of the Rhythms of Ordinary Lives
And
A
Powerful Voice for Peace
In a Tribute Tonight.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/clinton-hails-poet-seamus-heaney-29540214.html
I suppose Wild Bill
could be called
the poet
who
never inhaled
but no one
can ever deny
that Wild Bill brought
Peace
in The Land
Seamus Heaney
loved So Well
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Seamus Heaney was my favourite 20th century/21st century poet.
I am a bit shocked he is dead.
Here is the voice of Famous Seamus,
talking about Patrick Kavanagh:
It would never be morning, always evening,
Golden sunset, golden age - When Shakespeare,
Marlowe and Jonson were writing
The future of England page by page, ...
All I could find of Kavanagh's
In Memory of Brother Michael.
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[T]here are few poets I would rank as his equal.
Paul Simon.
Wordsworth,
Yeats, Shelley, Byron,
Frost, Whitman Longfellow,
Shakespeare........
Who did I leave out?
Paul Simon asked me
to correct
an error
in his
TImes blog:
He wants me to make clear
that he was speaking
only
about
the
English language.
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They saw no one there: Truly's giveaway disclaimer as to Oswald's presence at the first floor entrance
he accompanied the officer immediately up the stairs to the second floor of the building: front stairs, for a route that will bring Oswald into Baker's path en route to the rear stairway
Tell me this, Sean,
and tell me no more:
Do you make this stuff up
as you go along?
It makes me want to hear
a good Australian song
called The Pub With No Beer
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Just got this from Goodreads:[beware any negative or deleted reviews!]Having read an advanced copy of Vincent's book, let me just tell you that "Survivor's Guilt: The Service Service and the Failure to Protect the President" is THE best book ever written on the Secret Service (and the JFK assassination, as well). What's more, "SURVIVOR'S GUILT" TOTALLY DEBUNKS "THE KENNEDY DETAIL" BY GERALD BLAINE! President Kennedy did not order the agents off his limousine; there was no morning-of-JFK's-funeral meeting as Blaine alleged (...moreVince Palamara is a genius! His many, many interviews with former Secret Service agents reveals a ton of new information. In fact, much of this information places "The Kennedy Detail" in the fiction section. This is the best book of 2013 and the best book on both the Kennedy assassination and the Secret Service. Very impressed!!
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http://www.irishtimes.com/comfort-is-best-found-in-seamus-heaney-s-poems-1.1511342
COMFORT
IS BEST FOUND
IN SEAMUS HEANEY'S
POEMS
Everyone is devastated
He made poetry sexy again
It is all about DELIGHT
And how to live your life
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August 30, 2013, 6:44 pm 4 CommentsAnother Kind of Music By PAUL SIMON Sounds Of Silence
Press Association, via Associate
Seamus Heaney in 1970.I was in the audience
At the Abbey Theater
in Dublin
On June 9, 1991
When
Seamus Heaney
Read
From his new
Book of Poems
Seeing Things
I know the exact date
Because Seamus
kindly inscribed
His book
for me
And dated it
But I wouldn’t
have forgotten
That night
With or without
The Month and Year
Seamus gave
a mesmerizing
Witty and emotional
performance
And it was a rare
opportunity
for me
To Hear
The sound
of his words
Spoken
In
their true
accent
Popular culture
likes to house
Songwriters and poets
Under the same roof
But we are not the close family
That some imagine
Poets
are distant cousins
at most
And labor
under
A distinctly different
set of rules
Songwriters have melody
Instrumentation and rhythm
To color their work
And give it power
Poets accomplish it all
With Words
Seamus
Was one of those rare poets
Whose writing evokes music
The fiddles
Pipes
and pennywhistles
Of his Northern
Irish culture
And upbringing
You can hear it
in
Casting and Gathering
Years and years ago these sounds took sides
On the left bank a green silk tapered cast
Went whispering through the air saying hush
And lush, entirely free, no matter whether
It swished above the hayfield or the riverAnd later in the poem
One sound is saying
You are not worth tuppence
But neither is anybody.Watch it!
Be severe
The other says,
Go with it!
Give and swerve
You are everything you feelbeside the river
I love this poem
And return to it
from time to time
To hear the
hush and lush
Of the fishermen
Casting their rods
from opposite banks
like politicians across
the Senate aisle
And I like
the friendly pep talk
Seamus gives himself
when self-criticism
is about
to get
The best
of him
It’s frustrating
To try
to capture
Even a glimpse
of the man
His verbal
virtuosity
His wit
And Irish charm
Recovering from
a stroke
In the
hospital
he greeted his friend
and fellow poet
Paul Muldoon
with
Hello Paul
different strokes
for different folks
I admire
the directness
And simplicity
of his work
A virtue
most writers
aspire to
But rarely
achieve
Seamus
and I met
Through
our mutual friend
Derek Walcott
I visited him
In his home
In Dublin
And continued
Our conversations
At my place
In Manhattan
Obviously
I’m a fan
even more
Of the man
Than the Poetry
Though
there are
Few Poets
I would rank
As His Equal
Paul Simon
Is a singer
and
songwriter
who needs
an editor
Though
He already
writes well
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Sean: I do not understand why you have a problem
with the 2nd floor coke incident.
It is part of the proof on Lee Oswald's innocence.
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Raymond,
Thank you for that. Seamus Heaney
Was my favourite 20th century/21st century Poet
I am a bit shocked he is dead
I had not been aware he had been ill for a while
I know he had an extensive vision and view
But my favourite are his Mossbawn poems
It will be a while before we see his likes again
James
Good to meet you James.
I have a complete collection of his earlier work
But since I started working on this case
Poetry took a back seat.
From reading this beautiful Times Obituary
I get the sense that his later work
is sensational
The JFK inquirer has much common ground
with the poet
According to Famous Seamus:
The poet is on the side
of undeceiving
the world
It means being vigilant
in the public realm But you can go further still and say that poetry tries to help you be
a truer, purer, wholer being.
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The Dubliners- Finnegan's Wake
A Song for Seamus Heaney,
Ireland's most beloved poet.
Famous Seamus foresaw
PRAYER MAN
History says, Don’t hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up
And hope and history rhyme.
Seamus Heaney
Famous Seamus will have a lively wake in Dublin,and I expect a full report from Sean,
where they will sing the poet's favorite songs,
by his favorite Dublineers..
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Ray, the Weigman film certainly has it's share of artifacts. The persistence of the image, however, throughout the entire clip should rule out any possibility of being an artifact. And it shows up clearly again in Darnell.
\III put it to you Mr. Hocking,
that Prayer Man was wearing a silver bracelet that day,
that would adedeqately explain this flash of light,
would it not, Sir?
If you could do a close-up,
you would see inscribed upon it
the name of
Lee.
If I am not mistaken,
he is also wearing a watch
on his right wrist.
Seems to me either of these would be a better candidate
than a camera or a coke bottle!
Oswald Leaving TSBD?
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
Quit kidding yourself Sean me young lad!
Fritz's hidden notes
were hid for a reason:
They show that Prayer Man
was out front with Bill Shelley.
Rivers in Egypt
please help me