2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

I think you are confused on this particular issue, Cliff. 

Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald, two of the best and independent political reporters of our era, likely know what they are talking about. 

Has-beens.  If the US Gov’t interfered with Twitter in the fall of ‘20 how could that be Biden?

If you’re going to appeal to authority you can do better than Glenn “Citizens United” Greenwald and Matt “Uranium One” Taibbi.

2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

The Twitter story is what it is: Twitter was a Donk ally in the social media world. Run by the billionaire Jack Dorsey. 

Factually incorrect.  When Trump wanted items taken off Twitter they complied.

What part of “algorithm amplification” don’t you get?

2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Now, Twitter may be unaligned or gravitate to the 'Phants, run by billionaire Elon Musk. 

With lots of influence from the CCP? 

It was always a right wing dominated platform.

9 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

The San Francisco-based Twitter was a 'Phant catamite (pre-Musk)? 

Really? 

If you say so.

...Excuse me?  Twitter said so.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2021/10/22/twitter-admits-its-algorithms-amplify-right-wing-politicians-and-news-content

9 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Sounds like rice-a-roni time to me. The San Francisco treat! 

Confirmation bias is a bitch, ain’t it?

51 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Thanks Ben that was great!

Showed it to my father and he loved it.. 

What’s not to love about a guy who doesn’t know who was President in 2020?

Greenwald:

Go look and you'll see the whole mindless liberal pack making this point: "LOL, Elon claimed there was government involvement when Taibbi admitted in tweet 22 there's none." Now, look at Taibbi's tweet: he's saying there's no evidence of *foreign government* involvement, not US...

3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

I am not not in the League of the Infinitely Outraged, not before, now now. 

As I say, they play hardball in DC, both parties long cleats sharpened, and media catamites at the ready.

Twitter has gone from the Donk Camp to Musk Camp. I guess Musk is gravitating to the 'Phants, but we shall see. 

That’s bs, Ben.  Twitter was never a “powerful Donk ally.”

Twitter admits bias in algorithm for rightwing politicians and news outlets

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets

3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

The untold angle: Musk is heavily compromised by a huge factory operating in CCP-land, that is mainland China.

I guess the Donks do not bring that up as Donk-team billionaires at Disney, NBC-Universal, Apple, BlackRock are hip-deep in Beijing sewage too. 

So...what happens when Tweet-heads start banging on Beijing? 

You can't make this stuff up....

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

That's why I say it is DC hardball. The way the game is played.

The Donks had pull inside of Twitter, and they used it. 

Twitter repressed stories that reflected badly on the Donks. 

From the Atlantic article linked above:

...Taibbi last night said that Twitter “received” and “honored” deletion requests from the Trump White House.

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

The rest of media is much the same, aligned with establishment Washington. 

Like in 2016 when the New York Times gave 4X more coverage to Hillary’s e-mails than her policy positions?  Or like how all three cable news networks spent the last 11 days of the ‘16 campaign bashing Clinton relentlessly over the phony Comey accusations?  Or how the media got played by Bill Barr when he lied about the Mueller Report?

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

The Donks are playing the infinite outrage card not because they are concerned about hate speech, but rather because they have lost a powerful media ally. 

You were outraged by Twitter “censorship” under the old regime but Musk kicking off lefties for no valid reason is hunky-dory?

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Strike three, the Donks are out, and there is no crying in baseball. 

You gotta quit warming up and get in the game first.

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Separately, I have concerns that Twitter, Google, FaceBook have become de facto town squares, and should be open to all. 

No town I’m part of.  

Should content moderation be criminalized?

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

But, as of now, Musk can do what he wants, just as Jack Dorsey did what he wanted. 

One billionaire to the next. 

But you only seem outraged by Dorsey.

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

BTW, if Amazon gives you the boot, or alters its algorithms (to favor vendors, or its own brand) your business can go kaput overnight. 

Tell me about it.  I put up a website about bedbugs that made a bit of side cash and Google killed it.  I do duck-duck-go.

15 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

How powerful is too powerful? 

Interesting questions....

 

Ben: The Donk-Biden team had a pipeline into Twitter, and they used it.

Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson Don’t Understand the First Amendment

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/elon-musk-and-tucker-carlson-dont-understand-the-first-amendment/672352/

... [T]he First Amendment protects Twitter, the Biden campaign team, and the Democratic National Committee. The “TWITTER FILES” released so far do not describe a violation of the First Amendment. Instead, they detail the exercise of First Amendment rights by independent, private actors.

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34 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

THE HILL

OPINION>JUDICIARY

Censorship by surrogate: Why Musk’s document dump could be a game changer

BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 12/03/22 10:30 AM ET

“Handled.” That one word, responding to a 2020 demand to censor a list of Twitter users, speaks volumes about the thousands of documents released by Twitter’s new owner, Elon Musk, on Friday night. As many of us have long suspected, there were back channels between Twitter and the Biden 2020 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to ban critics or remove negative stories. Those seeking to discuss the scandal were simply “handled,” and nothing else had to be said.

Ultimately, the New York Post was suspended from Twitter for reporting on the Hunter Biden laptop scandal. Twitter even blocked users from sharing the Post’s story by using a tool designed for child pornography. Even Trump White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany was suspended for linking to the scandal."

---30---

This seems pretty clear. The Donk-Biden team had a pipeline into Twitter, and they used it. 

That's DC. Hardball. And the media is onboard. 

The 'Phants do similar things.

 

Ben, what’s the scandal?  Should it be illegal for the children of the rich and powerful to take advantage of their parents’ success?

Trump and Musk both received financial help from their fathers — but it’s only a problem for Democrats?

On 11/23/2022 at 6:24 PM, James DiEugenio said:

JFK was trying to kill Lumumba?

Allen Dulles pushed the button on Lumumba a few days before JFK’s inaugural.

That was the CIA chief’s way of welcoming the new Administration— especially JFK’s kitchen cabinet, Robert Lovett and Joseph Kennedy Sr., who had spent Ike’s second term trying to get Dulles fired.  

https://cryptome.org/0001/bruce-lovett.htm

After the ‘60 election Joe told his son to give Lovett any post he wanted.  Lovett wanted Dean Rusk at State, McGeorge Bundy as National Security Advisor, Robert McNamara at Defense, and C. Douglas Dillon at Treasury.

Lovett and Bundy were Skull & Bones Yalies.  The CIA Deputy Director for Plans Richard Bissell was a Yalie who’d been tapped for S&B but turned them down.  

Rusk and Bissell insured the failure of the Bay of Pigs with constant changes to location and scope.  There was very little outreach to in-country allies who might lead a pro-American uprising — even though the success of the operation depended on it.

Dulles was gone in November.  Bissell had a nice career in government and the corporate world.  JFK gave him a medal even though he bore the greatest responsibility for the BOP failure.

But if the idea was cripple and dispose of Allen Dulles the BOP was a raging success.

41 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Cliff, Covid effectiveness from your Jab wanes after 4 months

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/health/covid-booster-effectiveness-safety-cdc

That’s well known, so what?

41 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

Now the CDC is recommending a shot every two months, LOL! 

Double check your reading on that.

Updated Boosters Are Recommended for Some People

CDC recommends that people ages 5 years and older receive one updated (bivalent) booster if it has been at least 2 months since their last COVID-19 vaccine dose, whether that was:

• Their final primary series dose, or
• An original (monovalent) booster

People who have gotten more than one original (monovalent) booster are also recommended to get an updated (bivalent) booster. </q>

It doesn’t say every two months.

41 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html

 

 

Death rates in Africa were significantly lower pre-vaccination.

Coronavirus in Africa: Five reasons why Covid-19 has been less deadly than elsewhere

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54418613

3 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

Can you elaborate on this Cliff?  If the crack is in the right side, might the throat shot have come from his left?  I.E., maybe the south knoll?

Possibly!  

Location is subject to speculation.

What’s not subject to guess-work is the fact he had two entrance wounds in soft tissue with no exits and no bullets recovered at autopsy.

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Cliff, I am familiar with the Church Committee and William Cooper I have heard about the pistol. There is a cracked vertebra at T3

Factually incorrect.  The back wound was in soft tissue to the right of T3.

There was a slight crack in the right T1 transverse process, as well as an air-pocket overlaying the right C/7 - T1 transverse processes.  This is from the throat shot.

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

so I doubt it was a poison pellet.

 

You should read the original documents.

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Cliff I like how confident you are talking about things that you don't know much about.

I did notice no citations, but that's to be expected because you don't know what you are talking about and are just countering me. The Idea and the science started back in the 70's but animal testing in mice happened in the 90's The MRNA trial tests for rabies on humans began around 2012. Unfortunately the science for the vaccine is junk because the spike protein does not stay in the arm. Excess deaths are in excess in the countries where the Jab was implemented. 

Not in the US.

https://acasignups.net/22/11/30/33-months-covid-one-image-one-more-look-redblue-death-rate-divide

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

I know your not obsessing over mandates because you are the medical fascism sympathizer, members? 

You’re obsessed over largely non-existent mandates because you *need* to cry victim.

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

I've seen the myth buster shoot a ice bullet our of a hand gun about 10 feet. But why in 60 years have we not heard about a Ice Bullet gun like a heart attack gun.

Because you do no research and your little knowledge is closely guarded by confirmation bias.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_6_Senseney.pdf

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

I only make fun because it would be pretty difficult to get ice not to shatter being shot out of a high powered rifle. What do you think the assassin carried the bullets in? I'm envisioning something similar to the shaving cream can in Jurassic Park. 

You have no clue what you’re talking about.

From the Church Comm. testimony of CIA Director William Colby (pg 17)

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_1_Colby.pdf

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Mr. CHAIRMAN: Is it not true, too, that the effort not only involved not only designing a gun that could strike at a human target without knowledge of the person who had been struck, but the toxin itself would not appear in the autopsy?

Mr. COLBY: Well, there was an attempt—

Mr. CHAIRMAN: Or the dart.

Mr. COLBY: Yes; so there was no way of perceiving that the target was hit.

Mr. CHAIRMAN: As a murder instrument, that is about as efficient as you can get, is it not?

Mr. COLBY: It is a weapon, a very serious weapon.

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Here's a video with Dr Robert Malone who worked on the mRNA technology saying that it is still junk science at this point and should not be forced on people. 

Malone is a l-i-a-r who claims to have invented mRNA but he had a lot of company in that.  He had a patent on it which ran out, so he’s bitter.

2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

26 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Vaccines were deemed to not be 100% safe and a 'Vaccine Court' was set up to award damages to people injured by those vaccines..

In 1988.

26 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

so to call people snow flakes who don't want to be forced to take a procedure that's not 100% safe and is still in experimental phase because there is no long term data shows that you side with medical Fascism.

I’ve been Western-medicine-hesitant since I was 5 years old.  I do my research before I take any medicine.  mRNA research has gone on for decades, with many successful applications.  It wasn’t a reach to apply it to covid.

26 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

But that's expected from a science denier. So I'm cetain thing like veers and excess deaths are way over your head & 'My body My Choice' is too complex of nuanced logic for people like you to understand. 

The excess deaths were prominent in Trump counties.  But don’t let facts get in the way of your fictions.

26 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

I bet you think Obama mandating people buy insurance or face fines wasn't fascist. 

I didn’t get Obama-care until 2019, for 1 year.  For many years I had Healthy San Francisco, which was health care access but not insurance.  So I guess those Obama-care storm troopers you imagine missed me somehow.

26 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

 If the vaccine worked you shouldn't care if it was mandated because the person should be protected.

You’re the one obsessing over largely non-existent mandates, not me.

As to the ignorance of the following, the night of the autopsy with JFK’s body in front of them the autopsists speculated JFK was hit with a high tech round that wouldn’t leave a trace in the body or on x-ray.

The hyena gallery always gets triggered by this fact.

26 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

But like Ice Bullets shot out of rifles people who don't believe in science believe in wacky things.  

8 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

Funny a guy who supports the government forcing people to take a corporation's vaccine would call others Fascist.

I didn’t say anything about mandates — which proves my point about Fascists and their fictions.

In the US it was Gov’t employees and health care workers who faced mandates without exceptions.

That’s a snowflake’s idea of tyranny.

8 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

lol But that's part of being a leftist, alarmism is part of the show. I remember you guys saying Trump was going to put people in camps! Meanwhile when China does it, it's OKAY because they aren't capitalist fascist America!

You are so out of touch Cliff you shared article about how Antifa Activists who violate the terms of service for violence are being kicked off of Twitter (Oh heavens! Sarcasm Added) 

Another ginned up fiction.

Can’t help yourself?

On 11/27/2022 at 7:06 PM, Cliff Varnell said:

And yet around the 32 minute mark of his 2hr doc Jim DiEugenio acknowledges JFK had a shallow back wound at T3.

Looks like my 24 years of T-3 shaming the Experts sank in.

Bump

Fascists gin up big lies.  It’s what they do.

https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/

ELON MUSK CLAIMS to be “fighting for free speech in America” but the social network’s new owner appears to be overseeing a purge of left-wing activists from the platform.

Several prominent antifascist organizers and journalists have had their accounts suspended in the past week, after right-wing operatives appealed directly to Musk to ban them and far-right internet trolls flooded Twitter’s complaints system with false reports about terms of service violations.

</q>

31 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

We now have excess deaths they are coming from the vaccine and not the Omnicron variant. 

Same thing in 2020.  People died from thinking about getting a vaccine.

7 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

100% Appropriate response to a science denier. The maker of Ivermectin won a noble prize.. Thanks for playing Ice man

It doesn’t prevent covid.

1 hour ago, Matthew Koch said:

Has Robert Malone retracted his deadly recommendation of ivermectin 

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No, it’s an American Fascist disinformation campaign! LOLOLOLOLS 

 

Always great to start he day with a laugh Tanks Mon! 

A mature response.

We came in hot!

Joe may well appreciate the page...

Ben, btw, Biden is an Institutionalist more than a Globalist.  He opposed the first Iraq War, the attack on Libya, the bin Laden raid, and against Globalist designs he pulled 125,000 people out of the toughest neighborhood in the world in 17 days.

Know how many Vietnamese Ford pulled out in 1975?  5,500.

3 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

He is as clean as a hound's tooth! 

I need to see the quid pro quo.  What did Joe Biden do in exchange for whatever?

I can’t find it on-line now but in 2007 there was a personal wealth study of the top 581 (iirc) Government officials — Congress, White House, Supreme Court.

Biden came in something like 577.

They ain’t gonna find anything on this guy.

2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

There is no shortage of outlets---but very few worth reading. And some are effectively banned. 

I disagree about the Hunter Biden laptop. It appears authentic, and always has.

So what?  We find out that the child of an influential man leveraged his last name for business?  Oh my!  I must repair to the fainting couch fetch the vapors!

2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

It may be that AG Merrick Garland should appoint a special prosecutor regarding the younger Biden.

Sure, as long as they investigate the patents Ivanka got from the Chinese and the Saudi deals Jared cooked up while in the government and the scam called Trump Hotel in DC.

Ivanka, Jared and the Donald grifted while in office.  Hunter ain’t.

2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

 

 

I do not see how an AG can be expected to investigate the son of the President who appointed him, and on deals in which the senior Biden, and President Biden's brother, were involved.

There’s nothing to investigate.  Fascists are skilled at ginning up appearances.  

2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

But...all is fair in love, war and politics.

If Merrick Garland can get away with not appointing special prosecutor, so be it. DC is a hardball town. 

Fascists gin up big lies.  It’s what they do.

3 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Yes, and also the "debunked Wuhan lab leak conspiracy theory" was banned. Not just from social media---from the M$M too. 

It sure was!  Then Fauci learned about Chinese scientists getting covid two months earlier than previously known, and he admitted it may have come out of a lab.

Has Robert Malone retracted his deadly recommendation of ivermectin?

3 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

And Hunter's Biden's laptop was a Russia disinformation campaign. 

No, it’s an American Fascist disinformation campaign.  They wanted to pull a Comey on Biden like they did Hillary — gin up a phony scandal right before an election.

3 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

What one should read...and should be "allowed" to read...is an interesting topic. 

There’s no shortage of outlets for information, is there?