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Cliff Varnell

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  1. Nah, we're just funnin' ya. I've never smoked a cigar in my life.
  2. Ventura didn't get the VP nod. RFKjr picked Nicole Shanahan, the vivacious ex-wife of Google founder Sergey Brinn.
  3. I'm not claiming as a fact that BDM was a shooter, I'm pointing to the evidence consistent with that conclusion. Unlike Pat Speer I don't marry Pet Theories.
  4. That's rich coming from you. So what? You appear incapable of dealing with the evidence. You going to ever get beyond Pat Speer says Robert Groden says (maybe) that Faye Chism says (maybe) that she was Black Dog Man (maybe)? What part of the HSCA photo-analysis or Don Roberdeau's discovery do you not grasp? They said the photo wasn't clear enough -- but they didn't discount the possibility, did they? They describe a very distinct straight line feature which is in no way consistent with a bottle of pop. So you couldn't be bothered to read his paper on the 2nd Rosemary Willis head snap at Z214. Typical.
  5. Until you can cite Roberdeau and Groden you're just talking smack. Maybe you should just stick to the facts. Burden of proof is on you. Did Groden write the HSCA photo-analysis? Did Don Roberdeau disavow his 2001 discovery? When you get the answers to those questions get back to us -- otherwise spare us your butt-hurt Pet Theories.
  6. Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS; ZAPRUDER Film Documented .2nd. Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, 1and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll https://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html by Donald Roberdeau, 2001 On November 21, 2001, I publicly provided the following discovery with respect to Rosemary Willis's Zapruder film documented, clearly seen, ultrafast, second head snap. Whatever it was that caused the ten-years-old girl's first slowing then stopping and measurably slower head turn reaction from Zapruder film frame # 190 to 213, her first reaction is not the most important Zapruder film documented reaction with respect to Dealey Plaza assassination very close witness, Rosemary Willis. The most important documented reaction, by far, with respect to Rosemary is what caused and attracted her second Zapruder film documented reaction, that was a much, much faster, most likely impulsive reaction, that Rosemary displayed in an extremely rapid westward head snap that we can see with her head snap concluded with her very suddenly facing a line of sight aligned directly towards Mr. Abraham Zapruder and the grassy knoll picket fence corner location. In 2001 while researching individual Zapruder film frames between Z-190 and 223, a second extremely fast, Rosemary Willis head snap became evident to me that had gone completely un-noticed and government investigations un-reported by dedicated researchers and "official" investigators since the assassination 38 years prior. Please examine the ellipse circled Rosemary Willis in the key individual Zapruder frame numbers 214 through 223 between-the-sprocket-holes area, provided for you in the following frames, or, viewable even larger in another followup window, linked here.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location where Rosemary stated to U.S. government assassination investigators that she watched a person who had been located behind a "wall," suddenly and quickly disappear from her view right after she heard a gunshot audible muzzle blast, or, mechanically suppressed-fired "silenced" bullet bow shock wave [1].... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = where several photographic evidences captured a person positioned in that same specific location in one instant, but, who quickly moved away (or escaped) and disappeared from that very same specific grassy knoll location within seconds (rapidly hiding into a closeby car trunk, or, a closeby station wagon's rear pre-hollowed-out and large hatch-covered compartment?) after the last of the assassins volley’s of shots when President Kennedy's head exploded.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = where many attack witnesses stated that they heard, at least, one shot fired from.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = from where attack witnesses maintained that they also observed gun smoke lingering close to.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = from where attack witnesses smelled gun smoke close to.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = where, even though witnesses were standing much, much closer to the Depository and even though witnesses were at least 61’ below the Warren Commission-apologists, supposed, “lone-nut” “snipers lair” window....many witnesses, many gunfire experienced witnesses, and many law enforcement professionals experienced in gunfire, also first chose to run towards the grassy knoll.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = where a U. S. Secret Service Agent documented in writing on 11-22-63 that, instead of from the Depository located several hundred feet to his left and front while filming, Mr. Zapruder stated that a shot did originate from behind Mr. Zapruder [2]........ This is the exact same grassy knoll and parking lot locations = where prior to the assassination and immediately afterward, multiple still-unknown “agents” were encountered by several witnesses, even though all documented assignment location records for all U.S. government and Dallas local law enforcement persons thoroughly document that not even one real “agent” nor police officer was ever pre-JFK-elimination stationed inside Dealey Plaza, nor stationed in nor atop any of its surrounding buildings.... This is the exact same grassy knoll picket fence corner location = where the second, and most recent, Kennedy assassination government investigation scientifically determined to more than a 95% probability that a shot was fired from [3]........ Rosemary’s second head snap reaction directly towards the grassy knoll picket fence location at and after Zapruder film frame Z-214 is an important, very primary and very key consideration that carries infinitely more potent and stronger weight than her, measurably, much slower and leisurely first reaction seen earlier from frames Z-190 to 213.
  7. You don't?? Good to know. Now I feel free to infuse the rest of them with the finest Hoopa Valley hash oil. A prediction: on April 20, 2024, the DEA will reschedule cannabis from Schedule I to 3 and the Prez race will be in the bag for Biden.
  8. He could have ducked down a few feet and been out of sight. Rosemary Willis looked in that direction after hearing a sound and stated this "conspicuous"" person "disappeared in an instant". And you base this claim on your many years as a sniper? Since the wound in his throat was not consistent with a conventional firearm, an unconventional weapon may have required the shooter to fire close in with the target moving toward them. Who cares? They detected a "very distinct straight-line feature" in "the region of the hands." Rosemary Wilis noted his rapid disappearance. These points of information are inconsistent with your thinking on the matter. I care less and less about the opinions of "JFK researchers" as time goes by...
  9. From HSCA report: https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol12/html/HSCA_Vol12_0006a.htm II. PRESENCE OF POSSIBLE GUNMAN ON THE GRASSY KNOLL (24) The committee also examined information about the presence of a man near the concrete structure on the grassy knoll near the area where some witnesses said they believed gunfire had originated. (25) The photographic evidence panel examined photographs make by Phillip Willis of the area of the grassy knoll and concluded that a photograph taken by Willis did show a person standing behind the concrete wall on the knoll.(72) The panel determined that photograph was taken at approximately frame 202 of the Zapruder film, which was after President Kennedy received the neck wound but before the fatal head shot.(73) According to the results of the panel's photographic enhancement and analysis, the figure in the Willis photograph was consistent with that of an adult approximately 5 feet 6 inches to 6 feet in height (74) and wearing dark clothing.(75) The panel also noted that in another photograph by Willis, which was taken after the Presidential limousine had left Dealey Plaza, the figure standing behind the concrete wall had disappeared.(76) The panel concluded that movement by the object was consistent with the presence of a human being.(77) (26) The photographic evidence panel also noted that in the first Willis Photograph, which shows the person standing behind the concrete wall, there is visible, near the region of the hands of the person at the wall, "a very distinct straight-line feature," which extends from lower right to upper right.(78) Nevertheless, because of the blur of the object in the photograph, the panel was not able to determine the actual length of the object and could not conclude whether it was or was not a weapon.(79) (27) The committee interviewed Willis' daughter, Rose Mary Willis, on November 8, 1978, at her home in Dallas. Ms. Willis stated that she was present with her father and a sister in the area of the grass section of the plaza at the time of the Presidential motorcade on November 22,1963.(80) Ms. Willis explained that as the President's car approached, she ran alongside almost to the triple underpass. (81) (28) Ms. Willis stated that during that time, she noticed two persons who looked "conspicuous."(82) One was a man near the curb holding an umbrella, who appeared to be more concerned with opening or closing the umbrella than dropping to the ground liked everyone else at the time of the shots.(83) The other was a person who was standing just behind the concrete wall near the triple underpass.(84) That person appeared to "disappear the next instant."(85) Ms. Willis further described the location of this person as the corner section of the white concrete wall between the area of photographer Abraham Zapruder's right side and the top of the concrete stairway leading up to the center of the grassy knoll.(86)
  10. I didn't say he was. I correctly placed him behind the concrete wall in front of the picket fence. BDM is seen only in Betzner 3 and Willis 5. Behind the wall. The soda was found in front of the wall, yes? She dropped the bottle while she was sitting and then disappeared in an instant? Factually incorrect. BDM was behind the concrete wall. Not all weapons are rifles. All eyes were on the motorcade.
  11. I'll take genuine photographic evidence and witness testimony over Pet Theories any day. Fair enough. She was eating her lunch on top of the concrete wall? On the sidewalk? Again with the sitting? This doesn't square with the three points of information: a distinct straight-line feature in the region of the hands, a conspicuous person, disappeared in an instant. Far more consistent with a shooter.
  12. You might want to stay away from the cigars on the left side of the humidor. They're fake Cubans in more ways than one.
  13. I don't take Trump seriously about anything but his lust for autocracy
  14. Black Dog Man was a woman sitting behind the concrete wall? The HSCA identified “a very distinct straight line feature...in the region of his hands”. Rosemary Willis identified BDM as a “conspicuous person” who happened to “disappear the next instant.” Doesn't sound like a woman sitting behind the wall...
  15. Sheep in wolves' clothing don't run in packs -- they move in flocks. Neutron Activation Analysis of CE399? Get flocked.
  16. No Douglas, I never thought the subject was relevant and I'm appalled that new members of the Forum will be lead down yet another meaningless rabbit hole. Any discussion of anything in regard to the SBT is an abject waste of time, a distraction from the fact that 6.5mm FMJ don't leave shallow wounds in soft tissue.
  17. The mystery to me is why this subject is of any interest whatsoever. More false mystery rabbit-holery.
  18. Or it proves that the arrest of Oswald made their plan to blame Castro untenable.
  19. Robert, you continue to reinforce the observation that Harriman/Bundy had more power than LBJ over the official US Government position on Lone Nut Oswald. The same dynamic prevailed years later in regard to Vietnam.
  20. Since the Lone Nut Scenario fell apart for a majority of people by ‘66 it’s no surprise LBJ needed someone else to blame privately. In the few days after the JFKA the only people he confided with this claim were Sorensen and Warren.
  21. Robert, I’ve cited this quote many times myself. Johnson cooled his heels at Parkland waiting to hear if the patsy had been whacked. Plan A was to blame the deed on Castro with Soviet complicity. But when the patsy was captured alive that narrative became problematic. So LBJ boarded AF1 and waited to hear how to move forward. Bundy called from the Situation Room saying the lone assassin was in custody, and the minute LBJ got to the White House Harriman shows up with a tall tale about the unanimous view of the top Kremlinologists that the Soviets were not involved. Cliff Carter then called Texas to insist Oswald was a Lone Nut. LBJ followed orders then, just like he did years later with Vietnam.
  22. Wait a minute — what’s this about LBJ trying hard to convince Sorensen of foreign involvement on Saturday night? That’s not 11/22/63, that’s 11/23/63. The people above LBJ in the scheme of things had already laid down the law on 11/22/63. Meaningless. Soon when? LBJ’s first meeting when he got to the White House was with Harriman and Fulbright. Jack Valenti – in “A Very Human President” (1973, p3) <quote on> Shortly before 7:00 P.M., I escorted Senator J. William Fulbright, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Ambassador Averell Harriman into the office. I fidgeted outside, in the middle of what would have appeared to be an objective onlooker to be a mélange of confusion. No one of the Johnson aides, Marie Fehmer, his secretary; the late Cliff Carter, his chief political agent; Bill Moyers, nor any of the rest, was quite certain of what lay ahead. We were all busy on the phone and trying to assemble what measure of office discipline we could construct. <quote off> Soon after that Cliff Carter called Texas to pass on the order to charge Oswald as a lone gunman. So later on Haig discovered LBJ’s “deep concern” — so what? The elites made the decision on 11/22/63 to go with the Lone Nut scenario. In ‘67 the same people told Johnson to carry on with the Vietnam War and in March ‘68 they told him to try to get out. Johnson was good at BSing people, but push come to shove he did as he was told.
  23. “Everyone he could”? Sorensen, Haig and Warren were “everyone he could”? Not much of a lobbying effort. Looks like ol’ Lyndon took his marching orders from the “Wise Men” elites. As always. https://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/johnson-meets-with-the-wise-men-march-25-1968-034945 Johnson meets with ‘The Wise Men,’ March 25, 1968 On this day in 1968, as pessimism over U.S. prospects in Vietnam deepened, President Lyndon B. Johnson met with 14 informal advisers. In 1945, some of them had forged a bipartisan foreign policy based on containing the Soviet Union. They went on to craft key institutions like NATO, the World Bank and the Marshall Plan. They were known, collectively, as “The Wise Men.” They met with LBJ after being briefed by officials at the State Department, the Pentagon and the CIA. They had been informed of a request from Gen. William Westmoreland, the top U.S. commander in Vietnam, for additional troops in the wake of perceived U.S. setbacks in the Tet Offensive. Present at the White House meeting were Dean Acheson, George Ball, McGeorge Bundy, Clark Clifford, Arthur Dean, Douglas Dillon, Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Averell Harriman, Henry Cabot Lodge Jr., Robert Murphy, Cyrus Vance and Gens. Omar Bradley, Matthew Ridgway and Maxwell Taylor. In the words of Acheson, who summed up the recommendations from 11 of the men, “we can no longer do the job we set out to do in the time we have left, and we must begin to take steps to disengage.” Murphy, Taylor and Fortas dissented. That was a change from Johnson’s first series of such meetings, on Nov. 1-2, 1967. Then, the Wise Men had unanimously opposed leaving Vietnam. “Public discontent with the war is now wide and deep,” Bundy had said, but he told Johnson to “stay the course.” <quote off> After the March 1968 meeting Lyndon dropped out of the Prez race and began peace negotiations with North Vietnam. Who headed those negotiations? W. Averell Harriman.
  24. Someone Would Have Talked, Larry Hancock, pg 289. <quote on> On Friday night the White House placed telephone calls to Dallas DA Henry Wade, to Texas State Attorney General Carr and Police Chief Curry requesting that they avoid any official statements, charges, or discussion relating to conspiracy. Johnson’s aide Cliff Carter was making the calls and if the individual in question raised objections, President Johnson was used as the authority for the message. </q>
  25. Robert, your challenge is to find LBJ claims of a commie conspiracy after the 7pm EST meeting with Harriman — other than what he told Warren to get the Chief Justice on board with the new commission.
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