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Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Ben Shapiro is a lying sack of excrement. Since the perp was a Right-winger he was responding to Trump's rhetoric. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
I'm not giving "a distorted and desperate view of the other side." I'm quoting what the other side has said repeatedly -- Trump will be justified in using the power of his office to arrest his political enemies. Trump has said he'd be justified suspending the Constitution, that he'll be a dictator on Day One. Which is not applicable in 2024 when the Supreme Court has given the President the power of a King -- and one candidate expressly intends to take full advantage. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Sickos who blame Right-wing violence on the Left? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
My take as well. He was outraged/inspired by Trump's own words (or so I speculate). -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
You wrote: My reaction: there SEEMS to be a difference between random-assasination attempts (Trump, Ford, Reagan) and JFK (and MLK that seemed more organized by government elements. Again,this difference isn't dispositive, of course, but I find myself more and more thinking JFK, RFK and MLK are a different breed of assassination. </q> What's preventing you from expanding on this observation? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
No Johnny, it depends on facts. The kid wore a super-patriotic T-shirt in his high school year book, registered Republican when he was 18, and wore the gear of a right-wing gun website when he fired an AR-15 at Trump. There is nothing left wing about these facts. False equivalence. Freedoms that are under attack by fascists -- Trump and his Project 2025, his unceasing violent rhetoric, his open desire to align with Putin, and his stated desire to suspend the Constitution and be a dictator on Day One scream the fact this is not normal politics. Personally, I think the country was more polarized in the 60's and 70's when political bombings were as common as today's mass shootings. Especially over that bit where Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito said the two sides cannot live together peacefully. I don't want to live under a Christian Fascist dictatorship, especially when the dictator is an infantile narcissistic career fraudster adjudicated rapist. Trump promises to bring democracy to an end. Spare me the kumbaya. -
And he was the type of kid who'd wear a super patriotic T-shirt for a high school yearbook photo, registered as a Republican when he turned 18, sat in the front row of his honors economics class, and wore the gear of a right-wing gun website to the shooting. Trump has spent nine years spewing violent, divisive hate speech and he doesn't bear a degree of responsibility for this?
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Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Front of the honors class. No dummy. Did all of Trump's talk of dictatorship on day 1 and absolute immunity drive this super-patriotic kid over the edge? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
I don't see why not. In the early days of the first Trump term sets of TWMHP were going for $200 each and up. I have 150 un-collated sets in my closet. I should have jumped on it then -- now sets go for about $70 mint. Come and get me Crapper -- I can make money off notoriety too. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Registered as a Republican is only one indication. He posed for a high school yearbook wearing a T-shirt that had Mt. Rushmore super-imposed upon the Stars and Stripes. Most important, he wore the gear of a right wing gun website to the shooting. Small Town white boy. He made the donation at the time of Biden's inauguration. As a super patriotic true believer he probably felt it was a patriotic gesture. And now we get to the part of the exchange where stories are made up out of whole cloth. Mt. Rushmore and Demolition Ranch say otherwise. Who cares what you believe? You're just making stuff up. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
You know Rick Wilson is a republican, right? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Not at all. As a student of the JFKA I know how much assassinated politicians are canonized. Trump thought it was real funny Nancy Pelosi's husband was bludgeoned with a hammer. Karma's a bitch, ain't it? 1) He's a registered Republican. 2) He posed for a high school yearbook photo in a shirt depicting Mt. Rushmore super-imposed on the Stars and Stripes. 3) At the shooting he wore the gear of a right wing gun website Demolition Ranch. Let me tell you something about me as a human being. In 1992 I wrote the text for a set of collector's cards called THE WORLD'S MOST HATED PEOPLE. I insisted Don Trump had to be in the set. It was a hit in New York. Al Goldstein wrote it up in Screw, and I've been told it was discussed on at least one New York radio talk show. Will Trump get to me in his campaign of retribution? I doubt it. But it's possible. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Shows how stupid he is. Shots ring out, he gets hit, then he insists on standing in the open. "Wait! Wait! Wait!" Trump endangered not only his life but the lives of the SS detail by holding them up for a photo op. Iconic or moronic? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
The anti-Trump BS coming from 20 year old small town white boys who wear a shirt in their high school yearbook with Mt. Rushmore superimposed on the stars and stripes, and then wear a T-shirt advertising a right wing gun website while shooting at a right wing politician? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Trump got shot by a Right-winger. Did liberals kill RFK? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
What does this have to do with a 20 year old Republican super-patriot gun nut shooting at Trump? -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Man Shot in the Head and Killed at Trump Rally Tracy, who was close to the incident, describes what happened: “Somebody got popped, somebody got killed, somebody died. Somebody got shot this close to where we were. Those bullets. I pray to God for these people's families. Oh, my God. But how is this happening in our country today? Today?? How about every day. Trump bragged to the NRA he "did nothing" on gun violence. For all the good folk throwing around the phrase "political violence" please be aware Trump was attacked by a super-patriot probably to his Right. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
People are prone to imitate what they hate -- these two hate the guy who drew laughs mocking Paul Pelosi. Be careful how one hates... -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
But your hate is hideously misplaced. The perp was a super-patriot right wing white boy -- you claim he represented the Left. I hate lies. I admit it. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
The perp was a 20 year old small town white boy super-patriot registered Republican gun nut. Trump has spent the last nine years spewing violent hate speech and got tagged by one of his own. More than any woman who dressed slutty and got raped -- Trump Asked For It. Rush to judgement much? Whatever you do, don't let facts get in the way of your feelings. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Rallying the crowd against whom? A 20 year old small town white boy registered-Republican gun nut. Trump's nine year record of violent rhetoric came back and bit him in the ear. Cenk sucks, by the way. -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
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Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson at NC church meeting: “Some folks need killing” https://ncnewsline.com/2024/07/05/lt-gov-mark-robinson-at-nc-church-meeting-some-folks-need-killing/ Trump-https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-georgia-threats/ MAGA’s Violent Threats Are Warping Life in America https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/opinion/magas-violent-threats-are-warping-life-in-america.html -
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
Cliff Varnell replied to K K Lane's topic in Political Discussions
Trump’s ‘bloodbath’ and other rhetoric inflame his 2024 campaign trail https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bloodbath-vermin-animals-trumps-rhetoric-trail-2024-03-22/