Cliff Varnell
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21 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:
True to form, we have the usual far-left folks in this forum claiming that the "MAGA" Supreme Court's recent decision on presidential immunity makes the president a "dictator" and puts democracy in "chains." I wonder how many of these folks have actually bothered to read the decision itself (LINK).
Supreme Court Trashed by Republican Judge: 'Abominable'
https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-immunity-donald-trump-judge-j-michael-luttig-1922099
Luttig said: "The Supreme Court's decision in Donald Trump v. the United States represents the un-souling of America. America's democracy and the rule of the law are the heart and soul of America—it is our democracy and the rule of law that has made America the envy of the world and the beacon of freedom to the world for almost 250 years.
"The Supreme Court cut the heart and soul out of America with this abominable decision, of constitutional interpretation or, should I say, so-called constitutional interpretation."
21 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:If they would bother to read the decision, they would discover that their claims about it are a mix of exaggeration and outright fabrication. I would especially recommend Justice Barrett's concurring-in-part opinion. I would also recommend reading the oral arguments that were made to the court (LINK).
21 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:Here are some good analyses of the decision that provide balance against the hysterical claims about it that we're seeing in this forum:
An Overview of the Supreme Court's Presidential Immunity Decision - American Cornerstone Institute
This is Ben Carson's project. Carson was on a short list of Trump VPs. He's a doctor, not a legal scholar.
21 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:Washington Examiner – Bias and Credibility
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
21 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:The heritage Foundation authored the notorious "Project 2025" blueprint for dictatorship, a text so noxious Trump is furiously trying to disown it.
21 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:Published by Ben Domenech.
Washington Post's left-baiting blogger is fired for plagiarism
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/mar/27/news.usnews
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On 7/23/2024 at 3:55 PM, Steve Roe said:
I'm just a stupid LNer
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8 hours ago, David Von Pein said:
Yeah, Cliff's theory about the paralyzing dart (or bullet) is pretty far out in left field indeed,
Not my theory. That is what the autopsists' speculated with the body in front of them.
8 hours ago, David Von Pein said:but in Mr. Varnell's world, solving the JFK murder case always seems to boil down to talking about President Kennedy's clothing. Nothing else seems to matter too much in Varnell's shirt-and-jacket-dominated universe.
Physical evidence has more evidentiary weight than any other kind of evidence.
"Physical evidence is generally much more reliable than testimonial evidence."
8 hours ago, David Von Pein said:http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-789.html
Excerpt from the above link:
"The jacket collar could be "hiked up" a little bit and still have some of JFK's white shirt visible. Why you [Cliff Varnell] think such a thing is a complete impossibility only shows how desperate you are to trash the totally reasonable (and feasible) Single-Bullet Conclusion.
But the jacket collar wasn't hiked up at all. You're claiming that multiple inches of shirt and an equal amount of jacket was elevated entirely above the SBT in-shoot at the base of the neck (or slightly below) without pushing up on the jacket collar, the lower margin of which normally rests at the base of the neck (or slightly above.)
Disparate physical objects cannot occupy the same physical space at the same time. That's why we have car wrecks.
David Von Pein agrees that JFK's jacket collar dropped in Dealey Plaza, and the jacket was elevated "a little bit."
The SBT thus stands debunked.
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2 hours ago, Steve Roe said:
David, this will be ignored of course. Even the late Dr. Cyril Wecht testified that the bullet was a transiting bullet from the back and out the throat.
Factually incorrect. Dr. Wecht ridiculed the idea.
2 hours ago, Steve Roe said:Mr. Vanell has isolated himself into a loon theory that he now has ownership over, barring any concrete information to prove other than his own flawed speculation.
The physical and historical facts put the lie to these claims.
The bullet holes in the clothes are too low to associate with the throat wound.
The autopsists' speculated JFK was hit with a high tech round that dissolved.
2 hours ago, Steve Roe said:Now Mr. Vanell has to explain to everyone here who took a clearly rifle shot at the Governor sans a "gulp" bioweapon bullet. And of course, Mr. Vanell has to explain to everyone whether the spent three shells on the 6th floor, clearly from Oswald's rifle was a "gulp" staged prop.
The use of high tech weapons doesn't preclude the use of conventional weapons.
2 hours ago, Steve Roe said:Mr. Vanell, who enjoys calling me stupid,
You referred to yourself as "stupid." You give me every reason to agree.
2 hours ago, Steve Roe said:has locked himself into one of the wackiest Rube Godberg theories out there So crazy, even DiEugenio won't endorse it, and that's bad.
I'm a long-time critic of Jim DiEugenio.
That JFK was hit with a high tech round originated with the autopsists, not me.
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12 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
Cliff- Yes, I saw the Effigies and Naked Raygun back in the day. I got to work with NR lead singer Jeff Pezzati in 2004 when he sang backup on one of the Alkaline Trio records I did; a genuinely stellar human.
Never saw Big Black, but I would run into Steve a lot at his studio, Electrical Audio, as it's my favorite place to track drums.
I saw Big Black on their last tour, summer '87, at the I-Beam on Haight St. Great band, great set. My only disappointment was they didn't do "Sleep!"
Jeff Pezzati plays bass::
Steve Albini RIP
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On behalf of the world's coolweird, I must protest these uncool characters Shady Vance and Tiny Trump giving weird people a bad name.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson.
That's not what's going on here. Vance and Trump are going amateur, strictly. When the going gets rough, the uncool turn weird.
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Harris sees opening in Vance as she considers her own pick for vice president
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/29/politics/kamala-harris-jd-vance-vp-pick/index.html
CNN —Kamala Harris’ plan as a running mate was to brush past JD Vance as nothing but a rubber stamp for Donald Trump. But now that she’s the presumptive Democratic nominee, her campaign is seizing on the Ohio senator as a major liability, looking to her own vice presidential selection process and the contenders’ public auditions to drive home the point. </q>
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz sparked the whole "JD Vance is weird" narrative. Gone viral, as the kids say.
If I could get a bet down I'd put it on Walz for VP. Harris can double down on the Smart & Cheerful vibe.
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3 hours ago, Bill Fite said:
Hi Kirk, I've seen almost all of them (no Beatles, not Stills), most at what I think was their peak and in theatres or outdoors not in stadiums.
I remember being pissed off when Dylan had the nerve to charge $20 for a ticket in 1972 or 73.
It was $15 bucks at the Hollywood Sportatorium in Florida in January, 1974. "Before the Flood" tour w/The Band.
3 hours ago, Bill Fite said:I think that was the end of the 60s myself either that or the Stones Exile tour in 72 which I was fortunate enough to see in great seats.
There were a lot of others that I saw later in smaller venues that weren't big names in the 60s - Steve Goodman, John Hartford, John Prine, Silly Wizard, Battlefield Band, New Grass Revival (saw them 23 times), Beausoleil and Emmylou (5 different lineups) all multiple times.
Sweet! I saw Steve Goodman, John Prine, and Fairport Convention at the Ithaca Folk Festival in April '74 (iirc). Emmylou has closed the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival for the past 20 years.
3 hours ago, Bill Fite said:And I was fortunate enough to catch these legends - Bill Monroe and the Bluegrass Boys (Kenny Baker) in a high school gym, Muddy Waters (w Clarence Pine Top Perkins, Willie Big Eyes Smith and Jerry Portnoy) at the first Chicago Fest, Stephane Grappelli (3x), Wynton Marsalis (9 piece group), King Sunny Adé, Taj Mahal (2x), Ry Cooder w David Lindley, the David Grisman Quintette (O'Conner version), Johnny Cash w the Carter Family & Carl Perkins, Ella Fitzgerald.
You'd love Hardly Strictly.
3 hours ago, Bill Fite said:Also saw great speeches by Rod Serling, R. Buckminster Fuller & Sen Eugene McCarthy.
@Matt Allison Was Ruby Gulch still around when you were in Champaign?
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The Meatmen? Crucif-u-c-ks? Necros? Toxic Reasons?
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15 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
Cliff- possibly my biggest missed-show regret is not seeing the Groovies when they played a small club here in Chicago called the Beat Kitchen a few years back. I have no idea what the hell I was thinking. My head was clearly up mu ass on that one. They still play shows, but basically never leave Northern California now.
Tell us more about the shows you have attended. Big Black? Articles of Faith? The Effigies? Naked Raygun?
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The Autopsy Report was not prepared according to proper autopsy protocol, thus carries no evidentiary weight.
There is no such doubt surrounding the clothing evidence. David Von Pein has observed the fact that JFK's jacket collar dropped in Dealey Plaza, and the jacket was elevated only "a little bit."
The Single Bullet Theory thus stands debunked.
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1 hour ago, David Von Pein said:
Yeah, all of those Oswald bullet shells and bullets and guns and prints plus LHO's guilty-like actions weren't "genuine leads" in the JFKA case at all, were they Clifford?
JFK suffered a shallow back wound in soft tissue. 6.5mm FMJ don't leave shallow wounds in soft tissue.
1 hour ago, David Von Pein said:We should, instead, be focusing all of our attention on some sort of "heart attack dart gun".
It's called pursuing a lead.
1 hour ago, David Von Pein said:
(And yet Cliff, incredibly, has the gall to call a bunch of other people "stupid". Pathetic....as per usual.)
Steve Roe called himself "stupid." I was just agreeing with him.
As for the people who I called "collectively stupid" -- they are the same people David Von Pein has been calling "silly" for decades.
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Only genuine lead in the entire case but the JFKA Critical Community is too collectively stupid to pursue it.
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4 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
Elon Musk is an actual example of an immigrant dangerous to America.
Deport his ass.
Take Rupert Murdoch with him.
I have a new VP favorite -- Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz.
Double down on the Smart & Cheerful vibe.
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1 hour ago, Kevin Balch said:
This source states that a neuromuscular paralyzer commonly used before emergency intubation takes about 45 seconds to act when administered intravenously into a vein. Such an agent introduced via a bullet (or Umbrella Man’s flechette) would not necessarily be introduced in the optimal location and would take even longer to work. Do you know of an agent works nearly instantaneously?
The paralytic developed for CIA project MKNAOMI instantly paralyzed guard dogs to keep them from barking.
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_6_Senseney.pdf
page 162
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2 hours ago, Steve Roe said:
No further discussion needed with this uber-silly comment.
You have no rebuttal.
A fact stupid people cannot process: blood soluble paralytics and toxins were developed at Ft. Detrick, MD, for CIA project MKNAOMI.
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_6_Senseney.pdf
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1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:
Billy Gibbons
Eric Clapton
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My two favorite Bay Area bands of the late-60's early-70's.
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Bob Dylan
Iggy Pop
George Clinton
Jimmy Page
Diana Ross
Joan Baez
Joni Mitchell
Elvin Bishop
Quincy Jones
Ozzy
Van Morrison
Eric Burdon & Alan Price
Al Kooper
Dave Edmunds
John Fogerty
Roger Waters
Cyril Jordan
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On 7/20/2024 at 10:31 AM, Pete Mellor said:
😆 Keep pushing this Cliff. The truth will out!
Thank you, Pete. In 1966 Gaeton Fonzi humiliated Arlen Specter with the physical facts of the clothing evidence.
Same deal here.
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On 7/26/2024 at 2:07 AM, Michael Griffith said:
The "4th Reich"??? Really?
Really.
Trump tells Christian voters "they won't have to vote anymore" if he is elected in November
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-christian-voters-turning-point-action/
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On 7/18/2024 at 2:27 AM, Karl Kinaski said:
Said Varnell:
Not so fast ...
Kennedy was tricked on an anti Diem path, he tried to back off
Where did the buck stop?
He got tricked by WASP elite types. Same thing with the Bay of Pigs.
The buck stopped with JFK -- and the hero worship is over the top.
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13 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:
The "4th Reich"???
JD Vance on Trump in 2016: "...maybe America's Hitler."
"[Kim Jong Un] speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same."
Trump compares political opponents to 'vermin' who he will 'root out,' alarming historians
Trump says he didn’t know his immigration rhetoric echoes Hitler. That’s part of a broader pattern
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hitler-poison-blood-history-f8c3ff512edd120252596a4743324352
Trump rebuked for call to suspend Constitution over election
https://apnews.com/article/social-media-donald-trump-8e6e2f0a092135428c82c0cfa6598444
Trump Says He’ll Be a Dictator on ‘Day One'
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/trump-says-hell-be-a-dictator-on-day-one/676247/
Trump’s Insurrection Act Threat
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trumps-insurrection-act-threat
Why Aren’t We Talking About Trump’s Fascism?
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-distraction-trump-fascism/
Project 2025’s threat to democracy
https://michiganadvance.com/2024/06/15/project-2025s-threat-to-democracy/
13 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:Really?
Really.
2024 Democratic Presidential Nominee
in Political Discussions
Posted · Edited by Cliff Varnell
Called it. The Democratic Establishment wanted Shapiro (so did I for awhile) but Harris went with the desires of the activist base. Great pick!