Cliff Varnell
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2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Remember, Bret Stephens of the NYT called Russiagate affair and media coverage "an elaborate hoax." I do not think the NYT is a Trumpified news outlet.
My point in posting this is not to valorize Trump. It is to remind people of the lessons you know from the JFKA: Do not trust state, major party and mainstream media narratives.
Do not trust narratives promoted by Ben Cole.
Stephens referred to the Steele Dossier and the FBI surveillance of Carter Page as an "elaborate hoax." Nothing came of the Page surveillance and the Steele Dossier was barely mentioned in the Mueller Report.
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The most devastating political ad since "Willie Horton" in '88.
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100% proof of conspiracy was presented by Michael Baden of the HSCA and James Humes in his WC testimony.
<emphasis added>
Michael Baden, Head of the HSCA Medical Panel
"In [JFK's] jacket and the underlying shirt there is a perforation of the fabric that corresponds directly with the location of the perforation of the skin of the right upper back that, the panel concluded, was an entrance gunshot perforation that entered the back of the President. This is correspondingly seen in the shirt underneath."
https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol1/html/HSCA_Vol1_0100b.htm
The WC testimony of Commander James Humes pg 364-5
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/pdf/WH2_Humes.pdf
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Mr. SPECTOR: Have you had an opportunity to examine the clothing which has been identified for you as being that worn by the President on the day of the assassination?
Commander HUMES: Yes; yesterday, just shortly before the Commission hearing today was begun, Mr. Chief Justice, we had opportunity for the first time to examine the clothing worn by the late President. In private conversation among ourselves before this opportunity, we predicted we would find defects in the clothing corresponding with the defects which were found, of course, on the body of the late President. ..
Mr. SPECTOR: …Doctor Humes, will you describe for the record what hole, if any, is observable in the back of that garment which would be at or about the spot you have described as being the point of entry on the President’s back or lower neck.
Commander HUMES. Yes, sir. This exhibit is a grey suit coat stated to have been worn by the President on the day of his death. Situated to the right of the midline high in the back portion of the coat is a defect, one margin of which is semicircular. Situated above it just below the collar is an additional defect. It is our opinion that the lower of these defects corresponds essentially with the point of entrance of the missile at Point C on Exhibit 385.
Mr. SPECTER. Would it be accurate to state that the hole which you have identified as being the point of entry is approximately 6 inches below the top of the collar, and 2 inches to the right of the middle seam of the coat?
Commander HUMES. That is approximately correct, sir. This defect, I might say, continues on through the material. </q>
The bullet holes in the clothes match the back wound -- too low to associate with the throat wound.
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Here's RFKjr pimping another right-wing narrative:
You’ll Never Guess What RFK Jr. Says Really Causes Mass Shootings
https://newrepublic.com/post/180434/rfk-guns-kill-people-antidepressants
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a reputation for promoting pseudoscience. But in a recently surfaced interview, Kennedy makes one of his wildest claims yet: that the rise in mass shootings over the past 20 years is due to antidepressants and video games. </q>
Video games are popular in Iceland.
https://www.statista.com/outlook/dmo/digital-media/video-games/iceland
So are anti-depressants.
So are guns.
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Donald Trump Panics as Poll Numbers Slide
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polls-presidential-election-2024-joe-biden-1887777
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"Americans are a stupid people by and large. We pretty much believe what ever we're told."
"The bigger the lie, the more they believe."
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1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said:
Trump... "He ( Hungarian prime minister Victor Orban ) speaks and his people sit up at attention...I want my people to do that."
Why are people here playing this game of pretending Trump isn't as bad and dangerous as these other authoritarian dictators?
Worse than that, Joe -- it was Kim Jong Un.
This isn't a Democrat vs. Republican election -- it's Democracy vs. Dictatorship.
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RFK Jr.’s New York state director says her ‘No. 1 priority’ is preventing a Biden victory
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/politics/rfk-jr-new-york-biden-trump/index.html
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1 hour ago, Robert Morrow said:
This post has absolutely nothing to do with JFK assassination research and it should be moved to "political discussions."
No, I am not an RFK, Jr. fan.
Nor a Trump fan.
Nor a Biden fan.
Let's move this thread somewhere else.
I'm surprised it lasted this long. Post it directly to the cornfield and few read it.
"This is a bad thread. This is a very bad thread."
"Wish it into [political discussions] Anthony!"
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When has a sitting President ever debated a primary opponent?
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23 minutes ago, Bill Fite said:
Meant by allowing him to run in the Dem primary and debating, isn't that what RFKjr wanted? or am I misremembering that?
Ah, I misunderstood you. My bad. RFKjr dropped out of the Dem primary in early October. How hard did he try to pressure Biden to debate?
Is RFKjr tilting to Trump because of personal animus toward Biden? Like in 2000 when Ralph Nader tilted to Bush by campaigning in Florida two days before the election? That gave us a million dead Iraqis and a fascist Supreme Court.
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5 minutes ago, Bill Fite said:
Would this have been avoided if Biden had agreed to debate him?
Debates are always after the conventions.
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Trump Loves That RFK Jr. Is Running for President—and Helping Him Win
https://newrepublic.com/post/180190/trump-loves-rfk-jr-running
Kinzinger says RFK Jr.’s campaign ‘hijacked by MAGA’
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4578188-kinzinger-says-rfk-jr-campaign-hijacked-maga/
Let Me Rewrite That For You: NY Times Misinforms Readers About RFK & Biden
Secretary of Health and Human Services?
I bet Jim DiEugenio could get a cushy job in the HHS comms shop.
A pair of gold sneakers might be a snazzy new look for Jim.
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22 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
uhh no Cliff, i was
Gotta link?
22 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:heh heh
yeah, that's what I noticed, what a nail biter!.----how convenient!
I was thinking, does anyone have 11, 720 votes?
jeje jej jej jej jej (that's Spanish)
Yeah man, bullshit!
Cliff:Fair enough.
I understand you're being gracious here Cliff.
I think the report makes a good case for some over-counting of Hillary's primary votes, but nothing near 3.7 million.
22 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:But the popular number of votes you recited are not bullsh-t. Under even alleged tampering they are more accurate than a delegate count which is extrapolated from popular vote, but is even less exact because certain states have winner take all laws that distort the electoral vote totals even further..
Obviously, he's making an argument for the electoral college over the popular vote.
No, it's about the delegate count. The odds against total high end estimate accuracy are astronomical.
22 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:Must be from a red state.
Stop being such a Bernie traitor, Cliff!
Still have my Sanders '16 poster in my window. But what's right is right.
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2 hours ago, Keven Hofeling said:
You must not have been paying attention. Can't imagine how you missed it. Regardless, the numbers you quoted are bullshit:
Fair enough.
2 hours ago, Keven Hofeling said:See Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries: https://cosmoso.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Democracy_Lost_Update1_EJUSA.pdf
From the linked report:
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Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign. </q>
Given the upper estimate in every case that's a 368 swing, giving Bernie a 9 delegate win.
The estimates of pledged delegates that should have gone to Sanders are largely based on analyses of 11 states.
Iowa: 1 - 3
Nevada: 1 - 4
So. Carolina: 2 - 4
Alabama: 3 - 4
Georgia: 7 - 10
Tennessee: 3 - 7
Mississippi: 2 - 3/4
Illinois: 6 - 20
Ohio: 4 - 7
Arizona: 2 - 6
California: 25 - 35
So over the 11 states the range was 56 on the low end and 104 on the high end.
What are the odds of every state hitting the high end estimate?
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37 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Matt-
Do you think what HRC/DNC did to Bernie Sanders was justifiable?
I was the first Bernie supporter on the Ed Forum.
That said, Hillary got 16,914,722 votes in the Dem race and Bernie got 13,206,428.
The claim Hillary stole the nomination from Bernie is yet another hollow myth.
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15 hours ago, Keven Hofeling said:
The following is all from Henry's formerly classified testimony given under pains and penalties of perjury in closed session, and it contains nothing about "fancy bear" exfiltration. This is the testimony that counts, not the two lines you keep posting from the Schiff politician who was not under oath,
Henry was under oath when he said "Yes, sir."
https://www.dni.gov/files/HPSCI_Transcripts/2020-05-04-Shawn_Henry-MTR_Redacted.pdf
Page 32.
15 hours ago, Keven Hofeling said:and was obviously --at least to those of us who aren't suckered by McCarthyists like Schiff -- making his personal contribution to deep state corruption when he said it. By all means, if you have some actual evidence, please DO post it:
I have repeatedly. Henry -- under oath -- confirmed Schiff's characterization of Fancy Bear hacking the DNC servers in order to "set up" the exfiltration of the e-mails.
Russian actors hacked the DNC servers, while non-State actors subsequently exfiltrated the e-mails. Assange was probably out of the loop on the Fancy Bear hacking.
Meanwhile...
Seth Rich's killing was exploited on Fox News and online. His parents are fed up
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/15/1104511732/fox-news-seth-rich-murder
Fox News Settles With Seth Rich's Parents For False Story Claiming Clinton Leaks
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22 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:
You are hemming and hawing about there being NO EVIDENCE...
No evidence of exfiltration.
Evidence of staging for exfiltration.
22 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:That's the bottom line. You have NO EVIDENCE to cite in support of the notion that the DNC servers were hacked by the Russians or by anybody else.
Period.
That's not what Mr. Henry said. He said he had evidence the DNC servers were hacked in order to set-up exfiltration.
Sigh. You're the kind of guy who has to get the last 10,000 words. Knock yourself out.
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8 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:
You've just conceded there is NO EVIDENCE supporting the hypothesis that the DNC servers were hacked by Russians or anyone else, and that it is all dependent upon one's imagination.
No, in order for Fancy Bear to set up -- "stage" -- the e-mails for exfiltration he had to hack into the server.
Fancy Bear left the same cyber fingerprints CrowdStrike found in Ukraine. A b without any evidence of an e.
Doesn't seem all that difficult to grasp.
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2 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:
You are ignoring the plain language and plain meaning of the following, and you accuse ME of "confirmation bias"?
"...Asked for the date when alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC server, Henry testified that CrowdStrike did not in fact know if such a theft occurred at all: "We did not have concrete evidence that the data was exfiltrated [moved electronically] from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated," Henry said.
Henry reiterated his claim on multiple occasions:
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"There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left."
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"There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There's circumstantial evidence but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated."
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"There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network. … We didn't have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made."
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"Sir, I was just trying to be factually accurate, that we didn't see the data leave, but we believe it left, based on what we saw."
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Asked directly if he could "unequivocally say" whether "it was or was not exfiltrated out of DNC," Henry told the committee: "I can't say based on that."
In a later exchange with Republican Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah, Henry offered an explanation of how Russian agents could have obtained the emails without any digital trace of them leaving the server. The CrowdStrike president speculated that Russian agents might have taken "screenshots" in real time. "[If] somebody was monitoring an email server, they could read all the email," Henry said. "And there might not be evidence of it being exfiltrated, but they would have knowledge of what was in the email. … There would be ways to copy it. You could take screenshots."
"HIDDEN OVER 2 YEARS: DEM CYBER FIRM'S SWORN TESTIMONY IT HAD NO PROOF OF RUSSIAN HACK OF DNC"
By Aaron Mate | RealClearInvestigations | May 13, 2020 | https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.htmlSigh. Yes, that's the e that left no trace. I stipulated to this in the very beginning. What you appear incapable of grasping is that the DNC servers were hacked -- that's the b -- to allow the e-mails to be exfiltrated by non-State actors without leaving a trace of their exfiltration.
Fanatics have such confirmation bias even a simple concept like this eludes them.
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1 hour ago, Keven Hofeling said:
"...Asked for the date when alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC server, Henry testified that CrowdStrike did not in fact know if such a theft occurred at all: "We did not have concrete evidence that the data was exfiltrated [moved electronically] from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated," Henry said.
Henry reiterated his claim on multiple occasions:
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"There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left."
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"There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There's circumstantial evidence but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated."
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"There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network. … We didn't have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made."
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"Sir, I was just trying to be factually accurate, that we didn't see the data leave, but we believe it left, based on what we saw."
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Asked directly if he could "unequivocally say" whether "it was or was not exfiltrated out of DNC," Henry told the committee: "I can't say based on that."
In a later exchange with Republican Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah, Henry offered an explanation of how Russian agents could have obtained the emails without any digital trace of them leaving the server. The CrowdStrike president speculated that Russian agents might have taken "screenshots" in real time. "[If] somebody was monitoring an email server, they could read all the email," Henry said. "And there might not be evidence of it being exfiltrated, but they would have knowledge of what was in the email. … There would be ways to copy it. You could take screenshots."
"HIDDEN OVER 2 YEARS: DEM CYBER FIRM'S SWORN TESTIMONY IT HAD NO PROOF OF RUSSIAN HACK OF DNC"
By Aaron Mate | RealClearInvestigations | May 13, 2020 | https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html
There's a great line in Elmore Leonard's Get Shorty where Bo says to Ronnie -- "You do the b and I'll do the e."
Breaking and entering Harry Zimm's office.
Fancy Bear did the b and persons unknown did the e without leaving any evidence that an e had occurred at all.
Confirmation bias is such a bitch that some folks cannot wrap their head around the concept.
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1 hour ago, Roger Odisio said:
That's the fourth time, Cliff, you have tried to mislead by posting Henry's opinion about something he thinks "Fancy Bear" did, while you ignore what is important--CS's *finding* that they found no evidence of an outside hack of the DNC by Russia or anyone else
Henry is the CEO of CrowdStrike. I posted how he arrived at the conclusion that the Russian actor Fancy Bear hacked into the DNC servers and set up -- staged -- the e-mails for exfiltration. I find it amusing that you separate the part of Henry's testimony consistent with your bias from the part that debunks your claim.
Discussing this further is a waste of time,
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KH: Mr. Varnell, can you please explain why you are wasting our time
That's rich coming from you.
KH: Furthermore, the 8/3/2018 publish date of your article means that it was written prior to the 2020 declassification of Crowdstrike December 2017 deposition by the House Intelligence Committee of Crowdstrike President Shawn Henry which revealed that contrary to Crowdstrike's earlier fraudulent representations about having proven that the DNC server had been hacked by "Fancy Bear," CROWDSTRIKE ACTUALLY HAD NEVER HAD ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL OF ANY KIND OF HACK OF THE DNC SERVER
You can lead a pedant to water but you can't make them think.
MR. SCHIFF: lt provides in the report on 2016, April 22nd, data staged for exfiltration by the Fancy Bear actor.
MR.HENRY: Yes, sir.
Model of the Throat Wound
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by Cliff Varnell
According to the cervical x-ray (authenticated by Dr. David Mantik) there was an air-pocket overlaying the right C7/T1 transverse processes. James Gordon had worked up a model of JFK's cervical structure, so I asked him about the trajectory of such an air-pocket.