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He obviously misspoke and meant Saddam Hussein:
Riight.. According to you everyone "misspoke" about Osama bin Laden .. But why not, since his name sounds so much like Saddam Hussein and Daniel Pearl..
.. Cheney's reply was more like a freudian slip than a "misspoke".btw, I wonder if G.W.Bush "misspoke" when he lied about seeing the FIRST plane hit the North tower on 9/11?.. He even "misspoke" about there being a TV in the school, which was of course turned on, so he could see that FIRST plane hit the North tower!
What that idiot was really doing when the first plane hit the North tower was helping the school kids read The Goat Book, UPSIDE DOWN!!
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Wasn't this crap already posted on the other thread? None of the cited posts said he was definitely dead only that it had been "reported".
Not by me .. I reviewed the "crap" posted on that other thread and saw that Steven Gaal posted the "busiest corpse in show business" video.. My apologies for not remembering that and making you view it again ..
Next!Osama bin Boogeyman? 'CIA getting rid of old asset'
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Patrick Henningsen, independent journalist and Managing Editor of 21st Century Wire explains to Russia Today TV why it’s unlikely that any real evidence of the deceased Osama bin Laden will ever be produced by US authorities because for the last 8 years, Osama has been “the busiest corpse in show business”. Henningsen also believes that this news signals that in the long term, the US might move away from seeing the shadowy form of Al-Qaeda as its chief enemy in “the War on Terror”, and refocus on nation state enemies, namely Libya, Syria and Iran. Watch video…
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So hundreds of witnesses who SAW the aircraft are wrong, but a person who wasn't there is right?
<Sarcasm mode on>
Wow - pretty hard to argue against evidence of that calibre!
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No, you're wrong for claiming there were "hundreds of witnessess" who SAW a passenger jet hit the Pentagon .. Several witnesses saw some type of plane flying towards the Pentagon, then saw a large fireball that coincided with a loud explosion at the Pentagon.. The rest of what these few witnesses "SAW" was understandable conjecture.
Unfortunately, eye witness accounts are the most unreliable evidence of all, considering the fact that no two people ever see the same thing.. It's examining all of the evidence after the fact, by investigators who weren't at the scene, that usually solves most crimes.. In this case, the crime being the governnment lies of what really hit the Pentagon.
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No Duane you and Mr. Sault are incorrect. I know from experience you make a habit of it and assume he does so as well.
I posted several of the 100 or so accounts from witnesses who said they small the crash. Just saying they don't exist doesn't make it so. I posted the link to witness lists all you have to do is look at them.
You only assume that Mr. Sault is incorrect because I used him as a source to prove you wrong.
The only thing you posted is a list of several "witnessess" (not hundreds) who assumed they saw a passenger jet impact the Pentagon because that's what they thought they saw, and then were later led to believe that's what occured.. Unfortunately, what they really saw was just more CIA/US government smoke and mirrors that has not withstood any real scrutiny of the actual evidence.
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What's the point of posting obviously fake videos? Wasting our time?
The only thing fake about those 3 YouTube videos is the CIA's fake "bin Laden", plus the vampire teeth on Dick Cheney.. Actually, the vampire teeth might not be fake, considering how evil that creep is.
Speaking of wasting our time Colby, that just about sums up every word you post here..
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You make a habit of being incorrect;
No, you're the one who has a habit of being incorrect and here's the evidence that proves it.
A Cruise Missile at The Pentagon
by Peter Wakefield Sault
"Apologists for the ‘9/11 Commission Report’ invariably misrepresent witness statements, characterizing them as “hundreds of eyewitnesses to a plane hitting the Pentagon”. This is, of course, the employment of a non-sequitur to mislead the unwary, the reality being that all such witnesses firstly saw the large plane and then quite separately heard an explosion after the plane had moved out of their fields of vision. The fact is that, with the sole exception of Mr Walter, none of them actually saw anything hit the Pentagon for the very simple reason that none of them could see the Pentagon. Two others who claim to have witnessed an AA 757 hit the Pentagon were at that time Pentagon employees, hence their testimony must be set aside because of the distinct possibility of it being spurious. In other words, they would say whatever their employer ordered them to say; an employer that is not exactly famous for telling the truth."
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"Before any discussion of the wreckage shown above can proceed, the reader must appreciate that we have clear evidence of a cruise missile in the ground-level approach and smoke trail shown in the security videos. Therefore it matters not which answer, if any, the reader chooses to the question of where the wreckage came from, for it will not affect the answer to the quite separate question of whether a cruise missile was involved in the strike. For this reason we need engage in only a perfunctory analysis of the wreckage.
There are only so many ways that the wreckage could have arrived on the Pentagon lawn:-
It is from a 757 in AA livery, perhaps even Flight 77, that crashed into the Pentagon. This theory might explain why some witnesses thought they saw an airplane wing gouging the ground. What they really saw would have been the smoke trail of the cruise missile as it passed beneath the wing of the airplane to strike first. It might also explain why other witnesses thought they saw an airplane explode before it actually hit the Pentagon. It does not explain why no airplane is visible in the security videos.
It is from a smaller plane than a 757, a substitute for Flight 77, disguised in AA livery and either remote-controlled or pre-programmed, that crashed into the Pentagon. This is another theory that does not explain the absence of an airplane from the security videos. In favor of it is the crash damage to the facade of the building, as analyzed by Dick Eastman. It is also a better option than the first because if there was a plane of any description, its arrival was clearly synchronized with that of the cruise missile and both were targeted at exactly the same spot.
It was planted. In favor of this theory is the fact that there are no photographs showing the wreckage before the scene was disturbed by fire tenders. Also in favor is the complete absence of any video evidence of an airplane arriving at the Pentagon. Lack of video evidence notwithstanding, this theory is not mutually exclusive with a small airplane of some description entirely disappearing into the Pentagon through the hole made by the missile. In fact the alleged "folding" back of the wings as the Pentagon swallowed it up becomes plausible if it had once upon a time been a US Navy carrier-based airplane — with folding wings.
It was photoshopped into the photographs which show it. In favor of this theory is the fact that no matter which photograph it appears in and no matter which direction the photograph was taken from the view of the piece of wreckage is identical, as are the shadows upon it."
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"On May 16th 2006, the U.S. Department of Defense released two short video clips to Judicial Watch, claiming that these videos show AA Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. What the DoD actually released to JW were MPEG digitizations of the video clips, at a very much degraded resolution of 352 × 240 pixels. As far as I am aware, JW has never been able to ascertain the original format, as recorded from the cameras, of the video clips although it is, however, difficult to believe that the Pentagon would employ the lowest possible video resolution for its surveillance footage. Moreover, anyone who claims he or she can see a Boeing 757 in these clips has either a very vivid imagination or an interest in spreading false beliefs through the power of suggestion.
There have been many attempts to ‘enhance’ frames from these video clips, some of which have amounted to outright forgery. Such attempts are at best fatuous and the reader must accept that the original images are as good as it gets. Throughout this piece I have employed high-quality JPEG reproductions of individual frames at their original resolution of 352 × 240 pixels, and this can be verified by comparison with JW's MPEG video clips. If the reader has difficulty making out small details in these images, then welcome to the club and beware of charlatans peddling ‘enhancements’. There is enough detail in the images at their supplied resolution to make a clear case for a cruise missile strike.
The best that can be offered here due to bandwidth considerations are 320 × 240 WMV renderings made from the Pentagon-supplied MPEGs. These should be viewable in most browsers."
And there's much, much, much, much more proof here that you're the one's who's incorrect about what really happened on 911.
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Here is the bad man ! Woooooo Booga Booga..The Boogeyman!!
CIA Talks About Bin Laden Being Trained By CIA on CNN
Dick Cheney says Bin Laden Innocent on 9/11
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The new video clips of Osama bin Boogeyman clearly show a much younger and heavier man than that seen in any of the previous video clips released by the US government.. The last time anyone saw the real bin Laden was around 2001, where he looked gaunt, pale and deathly ill.
There is no proof of when those 5 clips were made, where they were made, and no rational explanation as to why the audio has been cut.. The lame excuse is not wanting to promote anymore of his propaganda.. Oh please!!!.. Why not release the audio so the world can hear the proof that it's really his voice?.. Or maybe hear him admit to the 911 attacks???
As for the video of the old man sitting on the floor watching the bin Laden news coverage, we can't see enough of his face to even identify who it is.. Nor is there any proof of where or when that tape was made.
For a governemnt who can pull off faking the Moon landings, the false flag attacks on 911, and the "lone nut" assassiantions of JFK, RFK and MLK, they sure are doing a crappy job of making their recent bin Laden psy ops even believable.
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This page has a link to a spread sheet summary of 136 witness accounts and links to several witness lists which themselves have links to the original sources.
The link you provided only lists about 19 witnessess, not 136.. The ones inside the building only describe seeing a fireball, not a plane.. The only person who claimed to have seen a plane impact the building was Mary Ann Owens who was no where near the Pentagon, but rather driving her car at least 125 yards from the site .. Maybe she's the same "witness" who admitted that she couldn't see what was written on the side of the plane because the trees were in the way.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77penta04.html
The other links you provided are either broken or just typical government disinfo sites, worded in such a way to continue fool only the fools who still believe the official version of 911.
Here are some articles about the identification of remainsThese links don't show any proof of any DNA analysis of the passengers who allegedly crashed into the Pentagon .. Instead, your source states this.. "The views expressed in this editorial are those of the authors and do not reflect the official policy of the Department of Defense or the Departments of the Army, Air Force, or Navy."
Which means, like Burton, you have no real proof of your claims.
Security cameras are most often placed near points of entry (doors). They would be less likely to point them at open fields. Cameras are also more used in retail situations where they can be useful for deterral of theft or retrieval of stolen property. To be most effective though they need to be monitored which takes manpowerSo I guess that means that Walmart has more security cameras than the Pentagon?
You failed to mention the securtity cameras belonging to businesses near the Pentagon, that showed what really hit the building .. The businesses who had their security video tapes confiscated by the FBI within minutes after the attack on the Pentapon.. Those tapes have still not been released to the public.
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No death photos, no body, DNA results in under 24 hours (an impossibility) and people all over the world ( not just the unwashed Conspiracy Theorists
) claim that bin Laden's death is a hoax/ruse/sham/political publicity stunt/psyops BS.After allegedly hunting down and murdering an unarmed man who was considered to be the most wanted "Al Qaeda terrorist" in the entire world, they just dump his body at sea, destroying all evidence that they really killed him!!!.. Why didn't they just capture the unarmed Osama bin Boogeyman and bring him back to the US to be tried for his alleged crimes of 911???
This nonsense is more transparent than the false flag operation of 911, not to mention more dangerous for American citizens, since this staged event has now opened the door for an even bigger false flag attack against innocent people.
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Globalist think-tanks are already building a case against Pakistan
by Tony Cartalucci
May 3, 2011
Foundation for the Defense of Democracy (FDD) scribe and all around intellectually dishonest propagandist, Bill Roggio of the "Long War Journal," has dedicated his life to perpetuating the entirely fake "War on Terror," abandoning all objectivity with the very name of his now officially government funded, Neo-Conservative establishment affiliated blog. The term "Long War" of course is a throwback to the Bush era and constant reassurances by the president that indeed the "War on Terror" will be endless.
"Osama's mansion:" Looking more like an LA crack house, it is more
likely that it was a CIA building hosting an "exercise" that went
"live" at the cost of multiple, unsuspecting lives. Of course, this is
just as credible as government claims which are based on evidence
either photoshopped, burned to the ground or at the bottom of the sea.
FDD and their doppelganger organization Foreign Policy Initiative -- essentially the reincarnation of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) -- were amongst the first in the wake of Obama's announcement to begin implicating Pakistan for harboring Bin Laden leading up to his death. These calls have only intensified.
Roggio's recent article, "Pakistani complicity in sheltering Osama bin Laden is evident" lays out what appears to be a convincing argument that not only was Pakistan aware of Bin Laden's presence in the city of Abbotabad, the center of Pakistan's military and intelligence community, but were complicit in providing him with sanctuary. Roggio is quick to remind readers of Pakistan's "vast links to terrorist groups."
Despite arguing that Pakistan was knowingly harboring the most notorious fugitive in human history, Roggio suggests that the US kept the operation a complete secret from Pakistani intelligence until the operation itself was underway -- and even then -- the US did not reveal the location of the operation because of a supposed lack of trust. Unfettered, Roggio skips past this lapse of logic either out of his own lack of imagination or his utter contempt for his readership. Of course, if Osama Bin Laden was actually in Abbotabad, and Pakistan was providing him sanctuary, wouldn't the compound itself be under constant watch? At the very least, after the operation was announced to Pakistani officials, wouldn't they already know the exact location?
Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Bin Laden, The Oswald Like Patsy Died 10 Years Ago! 1/7
"Stand down, false flag, deception and denial" = 911 attacks .. Dr. Steve Pieczenik
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Excellent links Steve.. Thanks!
Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 4, 2011
Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.
Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.
Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.
The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.
Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.
Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.
Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.
“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.
“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.
“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.
Read the rest on Infowars.com including the entire interview via YouTube. Also of interest is an interview during the same May 3, 2011 broadcast with Pakistani ISI Chief Hamid Gul.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/05/top-government-insider-bin-laden-died.html
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Sorry, but the list of "witnesses" you posted is proof of nothing, it's just a list of names with unsubstantiated claims.. Where are your "hundreds of eye witnesses"? .. All you supplied were a handful of witnessess who all had conflicting stories of what they supposedly witnessed .. The few witnesses who were inside the Pentagon never saw any plane wreckage .. Several witnesses heard several bombs going off and others said they never saw any plane hit the buiding but "were TOLD that it was a passenger jet"..One guy even claimed to have been told that the tail of the plane was sticking outside the side of the Pentagon but he never saw it because he was quickly ushered away by security forces.
One witness even claimed that he saw a small, unmarked, corporate 20 passenger jet hit the Pentagon, while a another saw a jumbo jet, but never saw it impact the Pentagon.. Only one witness claimed to see the impact of a jumbo jet, yet admitted that she couldn't see what was written on the jet because the TREES WERE IN THE WAY.
So all you have are a few unreliable witnesses who were TOLD what happened.. Which means you have nothing.. So much for your "hundreds of eye witnesses".
Now where's the DNA proof you claimed you have?.. So far you haven't answered any of my questions .. You might want to read what I asked for and try again.
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I concur with Elias Davidsson:
Barbaric (Written by European author Elias Davidsson):
...by Elias Davidsson on Osama bin Laden's murder
According to mass media, Osama bin Laden was murdered yesterday, on May 1st, 2011. He was murdered with "other family members", whose identity is still unknown. The President of the United States of America took credit for this act of murder. Murder is prohibited in every jurisdiction. It is regarded as a criminal act both under national and international law. President Barack Obama should henceforth be charged for ordering an act of outright murder.
1. Mass media report Americans "celebrating" the murder of Osama bin Laden. CNN reported that a crowd was singing "God Bless America" near Ground Zero and that outside the White House a crowd was "jubilating." Others reportedly sung the national hymn, as if murder was a patriotic act. Celebrating murder is a barbaric practice. Civilized people never condone murder, let alone celebrate it.
2. Osama bin Laden was not charged for any links to 9/11. U.S. leaders did not directly attribute to him the crime of 9/11. In March 2002, President George W. Bush said in a press conference that he was not anymore concerned by the fate or whereabouts Osama bin Laden (OBL). Was he lying, or was bin Laden already dead by that time, as reported in Pakistani media? The FBI admitted in 2006 that it possesses no "hard evidence" to connect OBL to the events of 9/11. This admission was made after a journalist discovered that the FBI fails to mention OBL's nexus to 9/11 on its website. Mass media have deliberately suppressed this lack of evidence, in order to keep the public supporting the war on Afghanistan and the "war on terrorism". President Barack Obama has now demonstrated his mendacity by suggesting that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the mass-murder of 9/11. Those reading the exact wording of his speech - in which he announced the murder of Osama bin Laden - will note that he did not directly link Osama bin Laden for 9/11. He merely suggested this allegation by rhetorical means, the typical conduct of a masterful swindler.
3. Even suspected criminals are entitled to a fair trial. At the very threshold of civilized conduct, persons may be sentenced to death after having been proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt by an impartial court for the most odious crimes. Osama bin Laden was accused of many crimes. But he was not proven guilty of any crime in a court of law. He was not charged for any connection to the mass-murder of 9/11. He was widely suspected to pose as a radical Muslim but actually acting for Western intelligence services in discrediting Islam. Whatever he ever said, or is alleged to have said, was, however, no ground for murder. To hound and murder a fugitive - if that was his condition - would make this murder particularly odious.
4. One of the persons murdered yesterday is alleged to have been Osama bin Laden. But this is not certain. According to CNN, an unnamed U.S. official said that bin Laden "was buried at sea". He explained that this was done in order to abide by "the Islamic tradition." How dare people who commit murder claim to have respect for religious traditions, let alone Islam? Do Muslims throw bodies of dead people into the sea? Another claimed that by throwing the body into the sea, the U.S. tried to prevent his burial ground to become a shrine, as if Osama bin Laden was widely perceived as a hero! The swift disposal of his body suggests, however, that the murderers were concerned that the public would discover that the victim was mutilated or that the body did not belong at all to Osama bin Laden.
5. The silence surrounding the identities of the "other family members" who also were murdered, demonstrates the disregard by the U.S. government for human lives. Even if their deaths was not directly desired, it was taken into account. Their killing would be considered under common law as "reckless murder", for which President Barack Obama must be held to account.
6. Congratulations by world leaders for this act of cowardly murder should raise concern to every member of the human family. When national leaders express their satisfaction over an act of outright murder, they forfeit their claim to remain in power. Decent people around the world should seek the removal from public office of any person who commends murder.
7. The murder of a person alleged to be Osama bin Laden is obviously an effort to revive the monstrous lie that Muslims committed the mass-murder of 9/11, a lie that is being increasingly exposed as the 10th anniversary of the mass-murder is approaching. The US government of Barack Obama has decided to enforce this lie by an act of cowardly murder and by further lies. These efforts will not succeed. This episode of evil will be duly documented and justice will prevail. The killers of Osama bin Laden must be charged, prosecuted and punished in order that such acts will not be repeated.
The above text was written under the impact of the shock that befell the author by learning about the cowardly murder and the barbaric sequels to that murder. Those who doubt some of the claims made above are invited to request sources from the author.
Elias Davidsson
Bonn, Germany
2 May 2011, 11:00 a.m. GMT
Very well stated! .. I'm afraid my concuring with Mr. Davidson means I also concur with Jack White, which I guess means Peter McKenna and Steve Knight will now spew even more of their unnecessary vitrol towards those they consider to be part of the "lunatic fringe", ie; "the great unwashed CTers" ...
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There's none so blind as those that WILL not see."
There's none so blind than those who use psychological projection as a means to insult certain people and don't even realize it.
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As usual Burton asks the impossible of those he disagrees with.
Show proof that all the witnesses were wrong.Show proof that the all of these alleged witnesses were right.
Show proof that none of the wreckage found matched that would be expected from the aircraft.Show proof that the meager amount of wreckage photograpahed outside the Pentagon was the proper amount of wreckage that would have been found if a passenger jet really crashed into the Pentagon.
Show proof that those who claim to have seen bodies were lying.Show proof that these people exist .. Then show proof that they are telling the truth about seeing any bodies, and not part of some government cover up.
Show proof that the DNA matching was falsified.Show proof that the DNA even exists and if so, matches that of the passengers of the plane that allegedly hit the Pentagon.
I'm not asking for much .. Just show proof of what you claim.
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As usual, all the defenders of the official government's version of 911 have to offer is silly ridicule and more disinformation..
9/11 and Other False Flag Terrorism
I am Sam Lwin, an ex-Marine, a conscientious objector and an anti-war activist from the first Gulf war. I would like to say a few words about the connection between 9/11 and war.
In the fall of 1990, President George Herbert Walker Bush mobilized troops for the first Gulf War. I was a Marine reservist and a senior at the New School. Knowing that it was an oil war and finding out the various deceptions used by our government to gain support of the masses at anti-war rallies, I, as a conscientious Marine, refused to go. So did twenty-five other Marines, eight of them from here in New York City. We were all court-martialed and did time in the brig at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina.
Many people supported us. They sent us letters and books to read and our prison sentences were shortened, in some cases by two years, due to public pressure through anti-war groups like Hands Off! and War Resisters League. During that time, one of the Marine resisters mentioned to me the name of Smedley Butler.
Smedley Butler was a Marine general who twice won the Congressional Medal of Honor. In 1933, he published a booklet called “War Is a Racket.” I would like to read a few sentences from it. "War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."
And he continued, “I spent 33 years and 4 months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force--the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.”
The whole ordeal in the first Gulf war made me realize that things are not always what they seem to be. Yet, a decade later, on the morning of September 11th immediately after the towers fell, even though I intuited that the Bush administration was behind the attacks, I chose to believe the official story, because I did not dare to believe otherwise.
It wasn’t until the Bush administration started incessantly insisting that Iraq had WMDs, that I realized that something was not right. In early 2002, I began to search for answers on the Internet, never thinking that I would spend five to six hours daily for the next four years.
So now we know. We know that, just like war, 9/11 is a racket, a military false flag psy-op, a highly deceptive series of events conducted to gain the support of the population for wars in the Middle East. Let me read General Smedley Butler’s definition again:
“A racket is best described as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.”
War is a racket. 9/11 is a racket.
It saddens and angers me that so many people in the antiwar movement refuse to examine the evidence of 9/11. We should ask them to do at least one thing. Watch the movie we just saw, 911mysteries. And if after watching it, they still want to continue believing the official BS, so be it. But for people to say that they want peace and at the same time adamantly deny the direct connection between 9/11 and the current wars is irresponsible. Many anti-war people unquestioningly accept the official version, without even looking at the overwhelming evidence which the 9/11 Truth movement has laboriously collected over the years.
Three weeks ago we all went down to Ground Zero to mark the fifth anniversary of the so-called terrorist attacks. That memorable day--Sept 11, 2006--was also the 100th anniversary of Gandhi’s first act of nonviolent civil disobedience, a movement he called “satyagraha.” In Sanscrit, satya means “truth”, agraha translates to “effort or endeavor.” Combined, Satyagraha means “to work for truth, in pursuit of truth.”
I propose that our brothers and sisters in the anti-war movement, whom I thank a great deal from my experience in the first Gulf war, join with us in the 9/11 Truth movement, to courageously pursue the truth with us--our Satyagraha--to bring into reality a truly independent investigation into the events of 9/11. And through our collective efforts, we can began to dismantle the authority of this traitorous, treasonous, and illegitimate administration in the current wars and their nefarious plans for wider wars in the Middle East and elsewhere. Only when the truth of 9/11 comes into light, on a national and international arena, will we be able to stop their immoral, unethical, and unconscionable rackets.
Thank you.
Veterans For 9/11 Truth
Much more here.
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That you are postulating Bin Laden's death as a coverup for some kind of Government attack on domestic territory is so over the top, well, you may want to check your meds and make sure you haven't missed any.
It appears that many people disagree with you.. Or should I say, agree with me?
.. Stay in your little box , Peter.. It's much safer there.'Conspiracy Theory Alert: Osama Bin Laden Was Dead LONG BEFORE This Weekend'
"Just when you thought it would be impossible for ANY piece of news to get MORE attention and media-coverage than the Royal Wedding, late last night most of us heard the news that Osama Bin Laden was KILLED in a mansion in Pakistan by a US-led team of operatives [you can't make it rain on Pakistani-h0es in a cave] – but as the world ponders how Al-Qaeda will respond to his murder, the question we really should be asking is: Did Osama Bin Laden actually die this weekend or LONG before?
Now let me make it very clear: I am simply examining the very realistic possibility that Osama has been dead for a minute, NOT making it an absolute 100% assertion. The reality is, people who believe 100% that he died last night or 10 years ago, but have never met Osama or actually SEEN him die, are STUPID as hell because all we can do is toss around theories which MAY or MAY NOT be the truth. But let this be known, the idea that Osama has been LONG DEAD is not as far-fetched as you may think.
The leading theory is that Osama died in the Tora Bora Mountains of Afghanistan on December 14th, 2001 and was buried in an unmarked grave within 24 hours [as per THIS BLOG]. Author David Ray Griffin wrote a very informative book called Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive? in which he investigated the theory that Osama has been dead since 2001, and here are some of his main points [which are VERY hard to refute]:
1. BIN LADEN ACTIVELY COMMUNICATED TO HIS FOLLOWERS
…up until mid-December 13, 2001, the CIA had regularly been intercepting messages between bin Laden and his people. At that time, however, the messages suddenly stopped, and the CIA has never again intercepted a message.
It’s really strange that he would continually communicate with his followers intricate plans and heinous ideologies and then magically disappear like Judy Winslow. Maybe the CIA hasn’t been able to tap into any subsequent communication channels – or maybe there just was NONE to tap into.
2. BIN LADEN WAS DYING OF KIDNEY DISEASE
He had been treated for it in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, at which time he reportedly ordered two dialysis machines to take home. And in January of 2001, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said – based on a video of bin Laden that had been made in either late November or early December of 2001 – that he appeared to be in the last stages of kidney failure.
I don’t think the last stages of Kidney Failure has a 10 year timespan. Is Osama the Magic Johnson of terrorists now?
3. YES, HE’S MADE A LOT OF TAPES – BUT THEY ARE JUST IMPOSTERS
It is sometimes possible, however, to prove a tape to be a fake. For example: If the person hired to play bin Laden writes with his right hand; if he is much heavier and darker than bin Laden was in a tape made about the same time; if he has fatter hands and shorter fingers; if his nose has a different shape. And if, in discussing the Twin Towers, he says that the fire melted the steel, whereas the real bin Laden would have known that a building fire cannot melt steel. I am speaking here of the video that was allegedly found by US troops in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, in November 2001, which is widely known as the “bin Laden confession video.”
The most obviously faked video is one that, appearing in 2007, was identical to the October Surprise video of 2004, except that the bin Laden figure now had a completely black beard, leading me to call it the video from “Blackbeard the Terrorist.” Although pundits tried, with straight faces, to explain why bin Laden might have dyed his beard..
Now many of you may be thinking “who the hell cares when he died, he’s dead now!” but there IS a very good reason to be concerned about this if it was all just an elaborate hoax. The answer to your question may be in Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 in how important going to war was for the Bush administration and how the war may have NEVER been supported by the public if we knew Osama was already dead. What about the Patriot act and all the suspensions of freedoms that occurred because of the impending threat of Terrorism?
So before you go hit the dougie at some pro-America/Anti-Al-Quada rally, maybe we should start asking some tough questions of the powers that be, like: can we see a real autopsy of Bin laden’s recently deceased body?"
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Gee Duane, when Jack's a dotard, will you sop the spit off his chin? As usual with the ludicrously weak - fishwrap proof.
Gee Peter, why all the nasty hostility? .. My opinions about the alleged assassination of Bin Laden has nothing to do with Jack.. We just happen to smell the same dead rats when it comes to certain subjects.. So as usual, your gullible world view won't allow you to think outside of the little propaganda box that's been provided for you by the highly deceptive US government.
This web site has a different opinion on when Osama Bin Laden really died.. But whether he was assassinated a few years ago, as claimed by the now assassinated Benazir Bhutto, or if he died of natural causes, one thing is for sure, he has not been heard from in a very long time.. Which most likely means that the man assassinated in Pakistan on May 1,2011 was not Bin Laden.. Plus, how convienent that "Bin Laden's" body has already been dumped at sea in the middle of the night.. Let the cover up begin!
Osama bin Laden: A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government
ON MAY 1, 2011, JUST MOMENTS BEFORE PRESIDENT OBAMA ANNOUNCED THAT THE US HAD KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN, THE WHATREALLYHAPPENED WEBITE CAME UNDER MASSIVE DISTRIBUTED DENIAL OF SERVICE ATTACK. THIS PAGE, WHICH DOCUMENTS THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN ACTUALLY DIED IN DECEMBER OF 2001, APPEARS TO BE WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE DIDN'T WANT AVAILABLE WHILE THE NEW PROPAGANDA WAS "CATAPULTED FORWARD". IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS IS THE OPENING GAMBIT IN A PLAN TO STAGE A "REVENGE" ATTACK FROM "AL QAEDA" ON THE UNITED STATES, WITH WHICH TO JUSTIFY TOTAL WAR ON THE MIDDLE EAST.
Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001] by intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora Bora, according to the Pentagon [details]. Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and President Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence could mean he has been killed. [Telegraph, 12/28/2001]
More here.
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This one web site alone contains all the evidence necessary to debunk all of Burton's and Colby's false claims about the 911 attacks.
http://911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html
What really
is the US government's version of who really attacked America on 911.Like I said before, anyone who believes the official version of the 911 attacks are complete fools.
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"But isn't Osama Bin Laden already DEAD?
A few years ago, shortly before she was assassinated, Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan was being interviewed by the BBC and she spoke casually of the murder of Bin Laden by his own people. The reporter was surprised. But Bhutto and other non-westerns apparently have access to the REAL news instead of the bullsht the US media spoon feeds us."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081127003540AAONnjQ
by Russell Clark
Dateline: Jan. 2008
"I was surfing the net the other day and came across a link leading me to a You Tube clip of an interview with Pakistan's former prime minister and opposition leader Benazir Bhutto.
Heading up the populist Pakistan People's Party, Bhutto was a leading contender in the country's general election, before she was gunned down a few weeks ago.
In this You Tube clip from a November 3 Al Jazeera interview with British television presenter Sir David Frost, Bhutto discusses who she thought was responsible for the prior assassination attempt on her life.
The shocking part is when I heard Bhutto make reference to the people who assassinated Osama Bin Laden.
Stop the tape! What did I just hear? I backed up the tape and at the 6 minuet and 15 second mark she does in fact say that Osama Bin Laden has been assassinated. I had to play it a few times to let it sink in.
She says it with a straight face and Frost doesn't call her on it. What the h**l is going on?
My guess is that Bin Laden is indeed dead and this administration is keeping it a secret. Why would they do that?
Maybe because someone killed Bin Laden and the Government doesn't have enough proof and releasing the information would be more trouble then its worth... Who knows. I do suppose that it would be an easy affair to hide Bin Ladens death from the public.
Please check out this video for yourself. Once again the government is hoodwinking us LOL."
http://searchwarp.com/swa289934.htm
Bhutto's Video
Funny how it took President Obama only one week to allegedly find and kill bin Laden, while Bush and Co. couldn't accomplish his assassination in eight very long years during their regime.
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Yeah, Jack, and Obama helped fake the moon landing
That's quite a feat for a lad of only 8 at the time of the first faked moon landing.
'Did Donald Trump Force Barack Obama To Release His Birth Certificate? Trump Thinks So'
"Donald Trump is taking credit for forcing the White House to release the Barack Obama birth certificate. Trump, who is considering a run for the presidency, told reporters that he is "honored to play such a big role in hopefully getting rid of this issue. I am really proud. I am really honored. Now let’s get on to the issues.”
He went on to criticize the White House for not releasing the Barack Obama long-form birth certificate long before April 27, 2011.
Trump is visiting New Hampshire, in what looked suspiciously like a campaign stop.
Trump says that he has yet to check the Barack Obama birth certificate but hopes that the issue can be put to rest. He says he wants to focus on real issue like oil prices.
“I hope it checks out beautifully. I am really proud, I am really honored,” said Trump. “Now we can talk about oil, we can talk about gasoline prices. We can talk about China ripping off our country."
Or we can talk about who's the bigger narcissist.. Barack Obama or Donald Trump?
My guess would be The Donald.
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If a jumbo passenger jet really hit the Pentagon, the survivors inside the building would have seen it coming in, instead of describing bombs going off in various places inside the Pentagon.. The light weight aluminum wings of the jet would have also been sheared off during impact with the building.. Yet there was no evidence anywhere of any wings laying outside the building.. Nor was there any evidence of any plane wreckage being removed from the building.. No seats, bodies, etc.. The story of the plane being "vaporized" is even sillier that the story of the ground swallowing up an entire plane (never to be recovered) at the Shanksville Pa. site.
Anyone who believes the official version of the 911 attacks are complete fools.
.. Cheney's reply was more like a freudian slip than a "misspoke".
Al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden 'dead'
in 11 September 2001 attacks
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Priceless!
