Duane Daman

Wow, what a lot of hostility and denial have emerged over this.

I was not here, but I guess there were a lot of hard feelings over the defection to DPF.

And now that they have a problem that is not easily solved, everyone is so eager to jump on them.

With Colby leading the way.

I wonder why.

Or am I just "droning on" Len?

They seem to be up and running. Good for them.

Not only are they up and running but my favorite thread is still intact.

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4948&page=22

Good for them is right!

Since you're a pilot I will take your word for it that you know what you're talking about when it comes to jackscrews, but as usual you've just cherry picked only one aspect of the chemtrail evidence in that article to "debunk", while ignoring all of the other more important evidence.

The evidence that chemtrails are real is overwhelming.. So obviously the only "nutbars" in this discussion, are the people who continue to deny their existence.

Wednesday, March 24, 2010

What in the World Are They Spraying? Part I

Concerned Citizens Demand Answers about Global Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-engineering Programs

What would you say if you were told that airplanes were regularly spraying toxic aerosols in the skies above every major region of the world? That is exactly what a group of protestors were claiming outside of the annual American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) meeting that was held in San Diego from February 18-22. However, inside the convention center was a different story. The scientists gathered to discuss the “plausibility” of implementing various Geo-engineering campaigns throughout the world, all under the guise that the Earth has a man-made global warming problem that can be solved in-part by spraying aerosol aluminum and other particles into the sky to block the sun. When these scientists were asked about the possibility of existing aerosol programs; they stated that no aerosol spraying programs have been implemented to date. A little confused? Why would protestors gather outside of a meeting making claims that world-wide aerosol programs were under way if scientist were only now discussing the possibility of implementing these programs? Could it be that one of these groups is being deceived?

Mauro Oliveira, the Webmaster of Geoengineeringwatch.org, was one of the protestors. He claimed that the program for Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-engineering (SAG), AKA chemtrails, has been well under way around the world. As a matter of fact, Oliveira stated that witnesses from around the globe claim that heavy aerosol spraying is occurring almost every day over just about every city. He went on to explain the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail. He stated that when a jet airplane flies at a certain altitude, a visible trail of streaks of condensed water vapor sometimes form in the wake of the aircraft. This is called a contrail. Contrails are normal and usually dissipate in a few seconds. They are very similar to when we breathe in cold weather. According to Oliveira, what occurs behind a SAG plane spraying aerosols is quite different. What can be seen is a thick white line also called a chemtrail that lingers in the sky for several hours. The SAG lines are sprayed into the upper atmosphere and then spread out forming what then appear to be clouds. The particles from these aerosols then fall to the ground where they enter our soil and water and can also be inhaled.

Another group of protestors had traveled over 10 hours from a small Shasta County community in Northern California. They became concerned about SAG when many from this community began to see dramatic changes not only in the sky, but also on the ground. Trees were dying, grass was not growing and many farmers were having difficulty getting any crops to grow on their farms. The crisis prompted biologists from the community to take action by testing the soil. The results were shocking. Aluminum, barium and other elements were found to be up to thousands of times higher than normal limits. Such high quantities lead to unhealthy PH levels in the soil which can be deadly to ecological life systems. These shocking results led to additional testing of Lake Shasta with samples from the Pit River arm tributary that tested over 4,610 times the maximum contamination level of aluminum allowed in drinking water in the state of California. Also, peer reviewed scientific studies conclude that bio-available aluminum, now found in huge quantities in rain world-wide, is very harmful to flora and thus the eco-system. Ironically, these are the same substances the scientists are considering implementing in the various potential “future” aerosol spraying campaigns that were being discussed at the meeting.

A large number of other protesters became interested in SAG after experiencing burning eyes, migraine headaches, anxiety, irregular heartbeat, high blood pressure and other health problems on days that airplanes were allegedly witnessed spraying aerosols in the sky. Deborah Whitman, Founder and President of the non-profit environmental organization Environmental Voices and also Producer of the documentary “Sky Lines” is no stranger to these symptoms. She has been hospitalized over 51 times on what she calls “heavy spraying days”. Whitman has committed her life to helping people who claim to be experiencing similar problems resulting from aerosol spraying and gets calls from all over the U.S. in response to her website and documentary. Her recommended health tips can be found at www.environmentalvoices.org. Other indicators that possibly validate the claim that SAG is connected to health problems are the respiratory mortality rate, which has risen from eight on the list of mortality to third in the past five years, and the fact that Alzheimer’s and other illnesses linked to aluminum have continued to rise around the globe at astronomical rates since the inception of the alleged spraying.

The AAAS meeting hosted some of the world’s leading geo-engineering scientists. With years of education and even more experience in their respected fields, the scientists looked at geo-engineering issues from many angles. Workshop subjects ranged from, the effectiveness of geo-engineering to potential problems and even touched upon the issue of ethics. According to independent reporter Stewart Howe of Los Angeles, all of the scientists seemed to be looking for solutions to what they believe is the problem of global warming. Howe stated that the scientists appeared to be carefully weighing both the pros and cons of SAG when presenting potential campaigns to address the man-made global warming theory. Many were actually advocating alternative methods to combat this issue due to the potential risks of SAG that include droughts, ozone depletion, less solar power, decimated weather patterns, military use of technology and other various environmental impacts. Howe said, “after witnessing the aerosol spraying for years, I was surprised by the discourse among scientists.” Stewart went on to say that he believes that most of the scientists attending seemed to be separated from the knowledge of any current SAG deployment. As a matter of fact when asked about current SAG operations, leading geo-engineering scientist Ken Caldiera replied that he was unaware of any current aerosol spraying operations and when prompted to explain the long lingering trails left behind planes, he stated that they are simply normal contrails from jets.

David Keith, another leading scientist and expert in the field of geo-engineering, discussed the well-funded studies that have been conducted to predict potential future risks as well as benefits associated with geo-engineering. Some of the potential benefits include a cooler planet, and the reduction of melting sea ice and rising sea levels. Keith discussed what aerosol particles would be most effective in achieving the stated goals of the SAG program. He went on to say that initially sulfur was considered, however, aluminum is more effective and can be used by adding ten to twenty mega-tons per year into the stratosphere. When asked about health related studies that have been conducted to predict the potential risks of adding the particles in our air, Keith stated that many studies have been completed and indicate few risks. However, when asked specifically about the use of aluminum as an aerosol, he said “we haven’t done anything serious on aluminum, so there could be something terrible that we will find tomorrow that we haven't looked at." After the meeting, Keith showed consideration to the protesters by initiating a discussion about the SAG program outside where the protestors were standing. When confronted with concerns about SAG deployment from the group, he went on to say that he shared similar views and is against any deployment until proper research is completed to determine potential risks of aerosol spraying. He also went on to say that he is unaware of any current SAG operations, but, would be willing to look at any scientific proof if presented to him.

As the skies around our world continue to change, there is strong evidence that points toward current deployment of massive aerosol operations. Could it be that scientific data and studies are being used to implement pre-mature full-scale SAG programs with-out the knowledge of the top scientists who are involved with the research? If so, what kind of ethical considerations can we expect from the geo-engineering community in the future? It is hard to believe that the strange white lines in the skies witnessed around the world and the toxic elements found in the soil, water and air are from an unrelated source. We the people, in partnership with the scientific community need to challenge not only the environmental and health risks associated with SAG but also the numerous world-wide allegations about current deployment. It is imperative that we become educated and involved in uncovering the truth of this alleged crime against both nature and humanity. The future of our planet depends on it. As concerns continue to grow around the world about this issue, additional information including meet-up groups can be found on various chemtrail and geo-engineering websites.

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What in the World Are They Spraying? Part II

Could Aluminum, Barium and Other Substances From Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-Engineering Programs be Destroying Eco-Systems around the World?

A Closer Look.

What would you do if you were told that toxic substances being sprayed into the sky are falling to the ground and decimating eco-systems around the world? This very claim, made by concerned citizens outside the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) meeting last month in San Diego, sparked my interest to investigate further.

The AAAS meeting hosted several top geo-engineering scientists who gathered to discuss the “plausibility” of implementing various geo-engineering programs throughout the world. One of the options addressed was the stratospheric aerosol geo-engineering (SAG) , AKA chemtrail program, where scientists discussed the “plausibility” of spraying aerosol aluminum, barium and other particles into the sky to block the sun as a means to “reduce” the Earth’s temperature. When asked specifically about the potential risks associated with using aluminum in the program as an aerosol, scientists replied by stating that they have not studied much about the risks associated with aluminum and added that something terrible could be found tomorrow that they haven’t looked at. When probed further about the deployment of existing aerosol programs, the scientists stated that no aerosol spraying programs have been deployed to date.

The concerned citizens I met outside the meeting were claiming quite the opposite. They came in protest after witnessing airplanes that they believe are regularly spraying aerosols into the upper-part of the sky. Many from this group have tested and found extremely high levels of aluminum, barium and other substances in their soil, rain, water and snow. Ironically, the substances that they reported finding are the same substances the scientists are “considering” implementing in the various aerosol spraying programs discussed at the meeting. They also believe that these substances are leading to the destruction of eco-systems and are coming from already deployed SAG programs. Due to the severity of this issue and my desire to know the truth, I was led to Shasta County in the Northern part of California to investigate not only the claims of what is being reported in the sky, but also claims of what is in the rain, water, snow and soil from what many residents are saying is the result of SAG programs.

The first stop on this trip led me to Dane Wigington’s beautiful 2000 acre property overlooking Lake Shasta. As we toured his breath-taking land, he pointed to multiple trails that blanketed the sky. He claimed the trails are present on most days above Northern California. Wigington referred to this as a “moderate spraying day”. Like many other residents in Shasta County, Wigington moved to the area to get away from the heavy pollution of Southern California that he grew up with as a child. His dreams of living off the land and becoming one with nature are now coming to a grinding halt as he is focusing his time and energy on the issue of geo-engineering.

Wigington became concerned about SAG when he began to notice dramatic changes in the solar power that he uses to supply his home and property. Owner of one of the largest residential solar systems in Northern California, he began to notice very high declines in solar power. It can be decreased by as much as 60 percent on what he calls “heavy spraying days”. Wigington said, “The trails are literally blocking the sun”. He also went on to say that he regularly samples the fine dust layers on top of his solar panels and other outdoor surface areas and frequently finds very high levels of aluminum and barium. Wigington believes that these are a product of SAG programs.

At the same time as finding decreased solar power, Wigington also began to witness dramatic changes on his property as the trees, grass, insects and wildlife started dying. This led him to get his first rain test just four years ago. The results were shocking as they found aluminum levels at 7 ug/l or 7 parts per billion. Although aluminum can be found around the world in smaller quantities, geo-hydrologists told him that this number was quite high. Since that time, he has had aluminum tests escalate as high as 50,000 percent to 3,400ug/l. That is literally toxic rain. These results prompted him to get additional pH tests from two USDA soil scientists which yielded more shocking results. The pH of the soil was 6.6 in one area and 7.4 in another. This is over 11 times the normal alkalinity of the soil which should be in the range of 5.0 to 5.5. It is important to note the tests were taken in the forest far removed from any highway or industry.

When asked what these changes can do to the ecosystem, Wigington replied by saying that it is devastating. He went on to say, “if this continues, we can only expect to see things get much worse. Not only are we seeing our trees dying here, but also a major decline in our wildlife and fish”. As a matter of fact, Wigington stated that according to The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, the salmon run, once seen in abundance in this area has declined from 769,868 in 2002 to 39,530 in 2009. That is over a 90 percent decline. Amazingly enough, this decline started occurring about the same period of time when residents began to see a dramatic increase in what they believe to be SAG programs. Wigington’s efforts to get these issues and test results addressed has been largely ignored by government agencies and officials.

After a closer look at Wigington’s property, my initial awe of the beauty and breath taking views led to sadness, frustration and anger over the contamination that is literally destroying the eco-system. This led me to investigate further by seeking an expert in biology. I packed up the car and headed north to the breathtaking town of Mt. Shasta. Mt. Shasta has been known for its beauty, clean air and as being the source of water for some bottled water companies. Many travel from around the world to mountain climb and vacation in this beautiful part of Western America.

Francis Mangels, BS in Forestry, Masters in zoology and a retired soil conservationist and wildlife biologist who worked for the U.S. Forest Service for over thirty five years, welcomed me into his beautiful home in the town of Mt. Shasta to discuss the “hidden” crisis that is occurring. Mangels alerted me to the rapid decline of fish in the nearby rivers and streams. Mangels brought me to a nearby creek that had an abundant supply of fish just a few years ago. Because the primary diet of the fish in the creek is aquatic insects, he performed a standard sample method to measure the amount of insects present. The samples he had performed before the alleged aerosol spraying campaign had yielded an average of 1000aquatic insects. Our sample yielded only 31. This is over a 96% decline from samples taken just a few years ago. Mangels stated that because the fish live off of the insects, they are literally starving. This rapid decline is likely due to changes in the chemistry of the water. The only changes that Mangels is aware of are the dramatic increases of aluminum, barium and strontium which he believes is from SAG programs.

We also took time to test the pH of nearby soil and snow which contained over 10 times the alkalinity of the normal pH. Mangels has evidence that this drastic change in pH is also due to the massive increases of aluminum. He stated that forests, fields and farm ecologies thrive in acidic soils. Aluminum acts as a buffer that increases alkalinity and can decimate ecologies in large amounts. Mangels also pointed out that snow on Mt. Shasta was tested and sent to the Environmental Protection Agency (E.P.A.) who found results that contained 61,100 ug/l or parts per billion of aluminum and 83 ug/l of barium. The normal amount of aluminum in the snow at Mt. Shasta is 0.5 ug/l. Drinking water allowable is 50ug/l. That means that the snow on Mt. Shasta has tested at 1200 times more poisonous than water standards allow for aluminum. Mangels said, “Mountain climbers that come from around the world are drinking the poisonous water from the snow on the mountain”. Mangels went on to say that government action is required at just 1000 ug/l of detected aluminum. Although he alerted several government agencies of these findings, no governmental action has been taken to date.

Mengels brought me to several other locations around the town of Mt. Shasta where he tested the soil, rain, water and snow that also yielded tests that revealed the pH to be over ten times the normal alkalinity. He went on to say that these types of changes in soil, water and snow are very uncommon except in other areas around the world where people have been witnessing what many believe to be spraying from SAG programs. Mengels also stated that these changes have produced an “ecological crisis” and will have horrible consequences if continued. Mengels said, “Losses to our economy will be incredible and are on their way as we speak. Tree growth will be decreased which will result in the loss of logging jobs. It is also causing the decline of naturally occurring plant and grass growth that occurs in the normally acidic soils of grazing pastures, resulting in the demise of our grazing industry, fishing industry, and worst of all, basic agriculture in Northern California.”

What is amazing is that these tests and many others throughout the world are largely being ignored by the very governmental entities that are required to address them. Some politicians, like Mt. Shasta City Council member Ed Valenzuela may choose to ignore the issue. Valenzuela was made aware of the mass contamination at a city council meeting where he stated that the city did not want to sample the water for aluminum because the request was a “can of worms” that would, "open a Pandora's box" that the city would have to pay for. Although several local citizens volunteered to pay the $22.00 cost of the test at an EPA lab, both Republican Committee Chairman Russ Porterfield, and Valenzuela voted no to having the water tested. The mayor Stearns wanted the test, but was overruled by a 3-2 vote. This response is not uncommon as Mengels has presented this issue and his scientific data to over 15 local and federal agencies including Senator Feinstein and Senator Boxer’s office. To date he has received no response or action.

Is it a coincidence that the substances found in the rain, snow and soil in this region and around the world match the exact substances that scientists are “considering” implementing in various geo-engineering campaigns throughout the world? If not, then why have agencies and officials largely ignored these findings that are destroying our planet’s eco-system? Could it be that officials are fearful of exposing a massive cover-up of a world-wide ecological crime? Or is it the belief that this issue is simply too large and too complicated a problem for them to tackle? Whatever the reason for this ignorance, we need to demand that our questions and shocking test results get addressed not only in Shasta County, but in every part of the world. Our future on this planet is dependent on this issue being addressed.

Because this movement has come under attack from those who appear to be protecting the many political and corporate interests associated with SAG, it is essential that all of us around the world get involved by testing the rain, snow, soil and various outdoor surfaces and reporting the results to our elected officials and local environmental agencies. We must also reach out and educate all those involved with SAG who might be unaware of the environmental implications associated with their programs. Testing for pH changes and metals is simple and can be performed almost anywhere at a nominal price. Simple testing instructions and more information about geo-engineering programs can be found on the internet at www.geoengineeringwatch.org . Biologist Francis Mengels can be contacted by e-mail at bioguy0311@sbcglobal.net for more information on this issue, the tests he has performed and suggestions on testing procedures. Please take action by testing, reporting and demanding answers on this ever so important issue. Both nature and humanity depend on it. For more information, please contact me at whtagft@hotmail.com.

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Yet another case of nutbars who know nothing about aviation making wildly inaccurate remarks.

Could you please elaborate on why you believe these "nutbars" know nothing about avaition?

"One other observation has been made regarding Welsbach refractory agents - the extreme abrasion characteristics of some of the other patented components, namely, Aluminum Oxide and Silicon Carbide. These materials are extremely high MOH's Hardness and only second in abrasativity to Diamond. These 1 micron and sub-micron dusts, upon falling through the Atmosphere, could conceivably find deposition onto a somewhat, adhesive surface, inside the working flight components of all aircraft traveling through the "grit-plume". The greases used on the Horizontal and Vertical Stabilizers, Ailerons, Flaps and Landing Gear trucks may be seriously damaged with abrasion of metals on the aircraft. A horizontal-stabilizer Jack-Screw continuously coated with these highly abrasive dusts from the Welsbach Refractory materials will cause a gradual milling of the jack-screw metals and cause complete failure, jamming the flight controls into an uncontrollable down or up attitude configuration. We believe that Alaska Airlines Flight 261 was a victim of this unforeseen circumstance. Alaska Flight 261 made daily passage through heavy grit plumes from ChemTrails operations associated with Welsbach Refractory Seeding operations, principally along the West Coast of the US, down throughout Dallas, Texas."

What part of that statement do you disagree with and why?

Denying the existance of chemtrails seems a bit silly at this point, considering the fact that these top secret "areosol scattering" programs are no longer secret.

Chemtrail Impact

THE EMERGENCE OF THE FOOD WEAPON.

"THE NATURAL EARTH BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS ARE SLOWLY BEGINNING TO FAIL. RHIZOBACTERIA, A CRITICAL BACTERIAL ORGANISM IS BECOMING EXTINCT IN SOILS DUE TO BARIUM AND ALUMINUM HEAVY METAL TOXICITIES."

"ONCE IS HAPPENSTANCE. TWICE IS COINCIDENCE. THREE TIMES IS ENEMY ACTION."

http://www.wildchildmagazine.com/display.php?id=75

THE METHODIC DEMISE OF NATURAL EARTH

~An Environmental Impact Overview~

By Dr. R. Michael Castle

Posted: 27 March 2004

In this century, we believe we are witnessing the gradual, purposeful demise of the Earth's Natural System. There are those who will debunk/dis-info all that is written regarding the subject of this paper: ChemTrails. What's this? ChemTrails are only a vague description, in lay-terms, of a greater theater of toxic materials being released into the atmosphere/stratosphere, for a myriad of crude and toxic agendas.

The author, Dr. R. Michael Castle, will attempt to put this Global debacle into a profile of events. Technical specificity of all the identified components would require at least a book in length, to recite them all. A short Bibliography follows, and links to various pertinent documents of unquestionable validity.

First Rule of Understanding: There are very large, winner-take-all games orchestrated by the Global Interests of the World. We have investigated, researched and found substantial evidence of a multiplicity of Global operations designed to mitigate various and theoretical Global catastrophes, as defined by a late 1980's and 1990's International Panel of Conferees. (The value of who are they, what's the politics smell like and all that is not of the utmost importance in our attempt, herein, to describe what serious destruction they have caused and are causing to Humans and our Finite Environment. 1

Many of the operations we have collectively found in our investigations of this debacle have remained a secret, classified and not for general populace information or knowledge. You must answer the question, Dear Reader as to why someone would possibly deploy these Geo-weapons. Just follow the money trails. We will yield all of our voluminous data, information and all references we have used in our validation of facts surrounding this Global atrocity. The recipients of this information must be interested enough in what we are trying to expose, the Human-health risks, the Environmental risks and the plain, simple "wrongness" that prevails. We must determine first if you are provoked to really care, because the research and development of this information for a Major Media whistle-blowing expose will require passion and dedication. Our research work has spanned almost five years of....watching and discovering, with disgust, the scenarios which follow.

This is not a small task.....but the Mission is simple. Expose and Stop the Methodic Demolition of our Natural Earth and its inhabitants.

Executive Summary

Dr. Edward Teller wrote a white paper in the late 1990's describing a remedial operation, strategy, epic-in-proportion, to change the predicted course of what was believed by an International group of Scientists, including Dr. Edward Teller, Livermore National Laboratories, et al, to be the cataclysmic certainty from the results of global-warming, crisis level Ultra-Violet/Cosmic radiation, crisis Ozone-layer depletion and other theoretical doom. 2Demonstrating here, that the same mind, Dr. Edward Teller, Father H-Bomb, was responsible for many ill-conceived strategies and not one gave considerations to the consequences in the Human realm. Safety, toxicity, lethality, exposure, Environmental Impact, morality, were not words with which Dr. Teller had a high-degree of familiarity. 3

These Global-Warming Mitigation Strategies, UV Mitigation and the cessation of the effects of Atmospheric Greenhouse-gases were given a commonality by Teller, et al, and this was the use of a sub-micron particulate. Barium, Aluminum, Thorium, Selenium were to be processed into a sub-micron particle dispensed from high-altitude aircraft, ionized with a specific electrical charge. 4(Chemtrails and Barium - absorption & inhalation .. see links below )5We must surmise that ionization keeps the specific heavy metal particulate aloft for longer periods of time. This electronically charged particulate matrix might also be the perfect RF control field. Theoretically, the heavy metals would block and reflect the sunlight from entering the Earth's atmosphere and reflect 1-2% back into space. UV radiation levels would decline. Teller also recommended the use of Commercial Aircraft as-well-as-Military Aircraft to carry out the enormous and epic task of coverage to the Earth's Stratosphere. We believe that the weaponization use of these technologies has been well demonstrated for a US DOD program entitled "RF Dominance". The US Air Force VTRP and the Navy's RFMP are other military programs utilizing aerosolized heavy metal particulates, including aluminized fiberglass or chaffe are characteristic of current military operations. 6

CIA-led Project Cloverleaf was one of the initial "aerosolized heavy-metal particulate" operations. Massive spraying of the upper-atmosphere/Stratosphere commenced. The U.S. DOD operations soon followed, as the US Air Force became embedded in the overall operations, strategically. The U.S. Air Force would also play significantly into the expansion of a significant Global-Warming Mitigation strategies in the form of Weather Modification and Geo-Engineering practices. 7, 8

Federally Approved Contractors became involved in this massive, Global effort to save Earth from certain doom. Federal Approved Contractors, FAC's, were part of the research, Development and deployment aspects of these projects, and many of them have visited the premiere website 9(See - Visitors) FAC Academia, multi-National Corporations, U.S. Military/Industrial Complex/Corporations, became eager partners in this effort. One in particular, Hughes Aircraft Corporation of California turned research efforts towards this endeavor.

Thorium and oxides, Aluminum and Silicon carbide have been identified in a special mixture referred to generally as Welsbach Refractory Seeding Agents US Patent 5, 003,186 . - March 26, 1991 10 This patent was assigned and awarded in 1990 to Hughes Aircraft Corporation. The Welsbach Refractory Seeding under unrestricted deployment operations began in the early 1990's over a vast area of Stratosphere above the North American Continent. 11 Expanding over the entire western hemisphere, many operations were believed to have been enjoined in Ozone Depletion Mitigation Aerial operations of the US Air Force, connected to the HAARPs (High Frequency Active Aural Research Project) for Ionospheric Heating, located in Alaska ) Ozone Remediation was 1 of 3 active mission parameters for HAARPs, as defined by Dr. Bernard Eastlund, Inventor and Director of HAARPs. The Ionospheric Heating Research Facility was manned and operated by the US Air Force (Reserve) and the US Navy. HAARPs had been weaponized; therefore, all operations were and remain classified. 12, 13

Weather Modification/Climate Change

HAARPs is utilized for many clandestine missions, of which Weather Modification is a fundamental objective. Microwave, ELF (Extreme Low Frequency), VLF (Very Low Frequency) and other EMR/EMF-based systems are transmitted into the atmosphere and reflected by the ionosphere, back through the Earth's Stratosphere/Atmosphere where various airborne chemical particulates, polymer filaments and other electromagnetic frequency absorbers and reflectors are used to push or pull the prevailing Jet-Streams, changing Weather patterns. ( Note: Vast files of our research are available on the particulate, polymers, Microwave, ELF, VLF & EMG, etc ) In many instances, Drought Inducement Technologies have been found in patented systems. Drought Inducement occurs, according to reviewed technologies by heating the Stratosphere with Microwaves, placing airborne chemical particulates in the airspace and thereby changing the base-line moisture gradients via microwaves from HAARPs and desiccating chemically with Barium Titanates, Methyl Aluminum and Potassium mixtures. 13

HAARPs punches massive holes in the open-air column Ozone, electronically. This is the basis for the Ozone Remediation/Mitigation Strategies found associated with HAARPs. However, "patching" the holes in the Ozone layer has become a standard practice for US Air Force and FAC flight operations. The US Air Force has recently, 2001-2002, resorted to the utilization of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV's) technology. High-flying Stratospheric Robotic Platforms negate the manned operation factors. Robots don't complain and never talk and remain, forever, non-union. Welsbach Seeding and Ozone Hole Remediation sciences utilize chemistries that are toxic to Humans and the Environment.

Welsbach Refractory Agents use Aluminum, Thorium, Zirconium and other emissitivity-refractive metals and metals oxides. Thorium is elementally, 98% purity. The remaining 2% are identified radioactive materials. Ground-fall includes Thorium. Mid and Eastern Canada are suffering from what has been clinically identified as Thorium poisoning. There are no other base-line resources for Thorium, all from residuals of aerosolized heavy metal particulate spraying into the Stratosphere.

Alaska Flight 261

One other observation has been made regarding Welsbach refractory agents - the extreme abrasion characteristics of some of the other patented components, namely, Aluminum Oxide and Silicon Carbide. These materials are extremely high MOH's Hardness and only second in abrasativity to Diamond. These 1 micron and sub-micron dusts, upon falling through the Atmosphere, could conceivably find deposition onto a somewhat, adhesive surface, inside the working flight components of all aircraft traveling through the "grit-plume". The greases used on the Horizontal and Vertical Stabilizers, Ailerons, Flaps and Landing Gear trucks may be seriously damaged with abrasion of metals on the aircraft. A horizontal-stabilizer Jack-Screw continuously coated with these highly abrasive dusts from the Welsbach Refractory materials will cause a gradual milling of the jack-screw metals and cause complete failure, jamming the flight controls into an uncontrollable down or up attitude configuration. We believe that Alaska Airlines Flight 261 was a victim of this unforeseen circumstance. Alaska Flight 261 made daily passage through heavy grit plumes from ChemTrails operations associated with Welsbach Refractory Seeding operations, principally along the West Coast of the US, down throughout Dallas, Texas.

Other aircraft, Commercial and Military, Civilian have also suffered these flight-component failures and attributed them to sub-standard Aviation Machinist's quality. As did the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) in the Alaska Flight 261 aviation fatalities. These conclusions could not have been farther from the Truth in these matters. Collateral damage or just another consequence of ChemTrails?

Ozone-Hole Remediation - The composition most notably utilized in Ozone-hole patching is elemental Selenium and an Aromatic Hydrocarbon such as Toluene (Benzene component of Gasoline) and mixed isomers of Xylene. Sprayed from Stratospheric flying Aircraft, films of this toxic mixture fall into the area just above the Troupopause, the Ozone Layer. Ozone or triatomic Oxygen forms rapidly upon the irradiation of the Selenium and the Hydrocarbon with Ultra-Violet/Actinic sunlight. This is the identical photon/chemical reaction that causes Ozone Alert Days and is problematic. The solid-state reaction of Selenium and Ultra-violet radiation is the same as the reaction that occurs during Xerography. Copy machines generate minute amounts of Ozone when the Selenium Toners are irradiated with UV light sources.

The US/NASA TOMS (Total Ozone Mapping) Satellites have verified these Ozone Patching operations that occur principally over the northern sectors of the North American Continent. We have been studying these phenomena since the early 2000 time line. 14

Ground-fall Impacts of Selenium/Aromatic Hydrocarbons - The aromatic Hydrocarbon, when ground fall occurs, (there is substantial evidence that this has repeatedly occurred in the United States and Canada) is causative of Benzene over-exposure. Carcinogenicity of Benzene is known, not suspect. Surface water pollution with Benzene is a continuous threat.

Selenium poisoning is characteristic of most heavy metals including Lead (Pb).

Weather Modification - An integral part of the US Department of Energy's (US DOE) Global-Warming/UV Mitigation/Climate Change, Strategies. Led by the US Air Force, as a distinct Geo-Weapons method, Weather Modification is occurring on a Global basis. 15 This Executive Summary will be confined to ChemTrails deployment in the United States and Canada due to the expansive nature of a global theatre.

Professional independent investigators have retrieved numerous samples of soils and waters; these were analyzed and documented. Extensive testing has demonstrated the highly suspicious toxic levels of Barium and Methyl Aluminum in many areas of the United States and Canada that have no extraneous sources of these heavy-metals. The sample retrieval areas have been documented for extreme ChemTrails observation. Accompanied by verbal and written complaints to many Public Health Care Agencies, causes for the elevated levels of Barium and Aluminum found in the bloodstream were not forthcoming; just another clinical conundrum. ( See Attachment - Chemtrails Pertinent Links )

Conclusions - Although this summary is only a fraction of the overall ChemTrails debacle, we encourage impartial investigators and/or credible news journalists to assess this core information and either validate or refute our findings, thus far. The entirety of the Human Health suffering and the Environmental Impacts are staggering and too voluminous to write at this time. Other aerosol-related programs will be discussed at a follow-up session. Moreover, biological materials and genetically mutated fungi used as biocontrols may even be more damaging and egregious to Humans or the Environment than chemical-based aerosolized chemical materials sprayed into the atmosphere. 16

All of the chemical spraying operations have been conducted and deployed without public knowledge and not one Human Health Risk Assessment nor Environmental Impact Study has been submitted for Public and Civil scrutiny or for comments. This alone is an egregious violation of Civil, Environmental and International Laws, with respect to Treaties.

The Natural Earth's biological systems are slowly beginning to fail. Rhizobacteria-endomycorrhizae, a critical microbial organism, is slowly becoming extinct in soils due to Barium and Aluminum heavy-metal toxicities. This microbe is responsible for the transfer of nutrients from soils-matrix to the plants/trees feeder-root system. The Barium/Aluminum heavy-metal salts are alkaline, i.e. Barium Hydroxide, and are shifting the base-line pH of surface soils and waters to new highs - elevated enough that certain plant species cannot survive. According to our experts in this field, without this microbe, natural plant growth is impossible. The ChemTrails are spoiling our Infinite Natural Eco-System and no one is watching , albeit the evidence for microbial extinction events abound.

The events of the 1990's were characterized with phrases such as; "re-inventing" Commerce, Government, etc., are uniquely defined by the clandestine operations carried forth by the embedded personnel of US Agencies, in collaboration with International Alliances with subjects such as Weather Control, Food and Water Control and expansion of pharmaceuticals treating new diseases, all having direct linkage to what we have compressed into something that is called ChemTrails. Does this story interest you in the least?

We, a group of concerned individuals from around the World, numbering in the millions, are now extremely convinced that we are witnessing the methodic demise of the Natural Earth in the name of Commerce and Control, big Corporate and a hideous form of Socialism via the Military Industrial Complex. The technologies identified in ChemTrails are crude, poisonous and lethal. The bankrupt independent Farmer of the United States and Canada never knew that the Drought that had-no-end and destroyed their businesses was actually contrived. Seems though, all their properties were purchased for pennies-on-the-dollar by either International Farming interests or International Grain-Farming interests and all that is grown and harvested on these farms are genetically mutated grains and foodstuff, most likely with a Monsanto Patented Product. These farms do not take USDA Subsidies either. Well, that's good for the US Taxpayer, right? This is the emergence of the Food Weapon .

Our ultimate mission is to develop Legislation for the United States Congress to pass that will halt, prohibit and forever abate the practices of deploying, dispensing or otherwise releasing any chemical into the Atmosphere/Stratosphere of the airspace above the entire North American Continent. Such a Draft Law has been written by the Author, R. M. Castle, entitled: The Unified Atmospheric Preservation Act of 2003 (UAPA3) , has been reviewed by other ChemTrails Investigators and seems to be the only method of intervention to halt these insidious methodologies. However, the US Congressman we hoped would carry our cause, tends to back off when it becomes clear that the US Government is strategically involved in many aspects of the debacle. We are not asking for this legislation to be considered, we will demand its passage. Once in force, who will then become bankrupt? We will shut down the HAARPs Electromagnetic radiation machine with UAPA3. I would be very honored if anyone would like to receive a copy of the draft legislation UAPA3, for review and/or endorsement.

Author - Dr. R. Michael Castle is an Environmental Professional whom holds a National Certification for Environmental Risk Assessment with 15 years of field practice in Environmental Risk Assessment, Investigation, Analyses and Remediation. A Polymer Chemist for 22 years prior to establishment of the Environmental Consulting and Engineering Firm, Castle Concepts Consultants, Inc., and is on the International Advisory Board of the World Natural Health Organization, (Bio of Dr. R.Michael Castle, http://www.wnho.net/bio-mcastle.htm )

Dr. Castle may be contacted at the following email address: pilot1981@voyager.net

References..

http://georgiamilitia.net/chemtrail5.htm

Growing up in the late 1970s and early 1980s, I remember a fascination I had with watching aeroplanes crossing the sky, and leaving long plumes of white behind them. Some would last hours, spreading out, but not disappearing. At least until I had to go in for tea and bed, anyway

What you're describing are chemtrails, not contrails .. I had no idea that chemtrails were being sprayed in the UK that long ago.. All of the information I've read so far about the American "aerosol scattering" programs, claims that the Air Force began their "top secret" operations in the late 1990's, through today.

But since you live in the UK, maybe you need to be aware of what type of spraying operation was conducted on millions of innocent British citizens from 1940 through 1979.. Considering you stayed outside watching the chemtrails for so long, you're very lucky you didn't get ill from the toxins being sprayed.. Or maybe you did.

Millions were in germ war tests

Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials

Antony Barnett, public affairs editor The Observer, Sunday 21 April 2002 10.23 BST Article history

"The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document - which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.' "

antony.barnett@observer.co.uk

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Fun times indeed.

Thanks again for the humor Duane! We can always count on you for that.

"But contempt seems a given, both in the perpetrating of chemtrails, and in the apparent attempted cover-up."

"Las Vegas Nevada,noon on 4-21-09, Two massive chemtrails that lingered, and then expanded out creating false cloud coverage that persisted for the remainder of the day."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuP9KYgSUcQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

The official name for chemtrails is aerosol scattering.

"The term “Chemtrails” has been used by scientists, researchers, mainstream media and the internet for years now. However, it often conjures up illogical ”conspiracy theory” rhetoric directed towards those of us who are well educated on the subject, by those who are obviously not, and who are still living in a complete state of denial and fear. So, here it is…

The official government term for the Chemtrail spraying program

“DOE ARM Indirect, Direct, semi-direct aerosol scattering”

http://stevenjohnhibbs.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/chemtrails-doe-arm-indirect-direct-semi-direct-aerosol-scattering/

This 6 part video describes the massive amount of life threatening toxins being sprayed by this "aerosol spraying" program.

I've only posted part 3 because of the limited amount of image links allowed here.

Debunking Chemtrail Debunkers -

The Government's Quisling Shills

Letters to the Editor

By Julian Penrod

julianpenrod@comcast.net

10-5-2

Dear sirs:

As disreputable as it can be to engage in the unethical and underhanded, it can be as vile to know about the unscrupulous, and not acknowledge its existence.

The past few years has seen an unusual occurrence in the skies over the country.

Several or more times a month, jet planes, flying overhead, would start leaving unorthodox trails in the sky. Instead of the normal kind of contrails, usually accredited to jet aircraft, which stretch for a short distance behind the tail of the jet, and dissipate, as the sun warms and evaporates the ice crystals in the tails, these would stretch, generally, from horizon to horizon. Jets would fly overhead, spouting white, straight, thin clouds behind them, but, instead of disappearing quickly, they would persist stubbornly, forming a long path across the sky.

The lane of cloud laid, then, would start to spread, side to side. Over the space of up to several hours, it would hang in the air, expanding. As it spread, it would thin, but not enough to completely evaporate. Indeed, apparently, never does a chemtrail actually evaporate! Instead, it would form a haze, sometimes even oily in appearance, from one side of the sky to the other, marking the path the jet took, but many, many times wider.

As the substance left behind by the passing plane slowly spread across the sky, it would come to be joined by one, then another, then another, as other jets covered the same area of sky. Eventually - in a very short time, in fact! - the entire sky could be covered with a wispy haze, and what was once a crystal clear day, now wouldn,t show a single patch of blue! And what sun did manage to shine through could, often, be accompanied by an oily, multi-colored reflection from the substance now lying thickly overhead.

This has been a commonplace in the United States, and apparently, numerous other countries, as well, for about six years now! Those who examine these phenomena have termed them "chemtrails", to distinguish them from contrails, and to emphasize the evident presence of foreign substances in the clouds. Since about 1997, these tracks have been a constant presence in the skies of the country.

Sometimes, they can be in parallel lines.

Sometimes, there can be several.

Sometimes, there can be many, all at once.

Sometimes, they can be curved.

Sometimes, they can form "X",s.

Sometimes, they form "H",s.

Sometimes, they can form more elaborate patterns.

Sometimes, they will form the collections of lines called "spider webs" or "grids".

Sometimes, they will form what is called the "fan pattern".

And, often, strange and even abnormal and bizarre effects can also be observed.

And, when the trails appear, they can cause many different effects, besides ruining the appearance of a day.

In some places afflicted by chemtrails, it is reported, for example, that, shortly afterward, heavy rains, likely induced by the trails, will form. But these rains, often, will rain down strange materials, evidently from the tracks in the sky.

Some rainfalls will produce a thick, viscous, reddish material covering trees, cars and houses. Sometimes, a fine, spider web-like substance will be evident everywhere. And, often, residents living below the clouds will begin to experience serious symptoms, from headache to muscle aches to nausea to difficulty breathing to bloody noses! Many describe the symptoms as similar to flu and, indeed, in areas over which the chemtrails are formed, it is reported, advertisements for volunteers in a study of flu will appear in local newspapers a couple of days before the onslaught of chemicals in the sky.

Attempts at analysis have been attempted by numerous individuals determined to find out what is being done to the people, and frequently opposed by evident betrayers of the public mandate. The analyses that have been attempted have yielded constituents of the chemtrails ranging from ethylene dibromide to aluminum chaff to barium oxide to pseudonomas fluoroscens and pseudonomas aeruginosa.

Ethylene dibromide is a compound which, due to its fire repellant properties, has been added to JP-4 jet fuel to produce JP-8 fuel. It is a potent pesticide, which has also been listed by the EPA as one of the deadliest chemicals known.

Aluminum chaff is powder, as fine as talc, used to scramble enemy radar.

Barium oxide is a crystalline compound purportedly useful for reflecting radio signals, supposedly making it possible to transmit over the curve of the earth.

Pseudonomas fluoroscens is a bacteria capable of producing potent, flu-like symptoms. Pseudonomas aeruginosa, on the other hand, is considered one of the deadliest pathogens known.

These are only a few of the unusual materials found in abnormal abundance after chemtrail appearances in many parts of the country! In their wake, numerous theories have been advanced for their presence.

Aluminum chaff has been suggested as being used to prevent terrorist communications from being successful in the country.

Barium oxide has been proposed to be being employed to facilitate American military and governmental broadcasts across the nation and overseas. It has also been linked to the generally obscure, but technically public, HAARP project. HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program. It resides on a site apparently more than a mile square, near Galcona, Alaska. The purpose of the site is an almost 30 acre array of 180 antennas. They represent their intent to be to develop methods of using the earth,s aurora to facilitate communication and as an espionage tool. Barium oxide crystals are believed effective in this.

Ethylene dibromide and the numerous pathogens often found in abundance after massive chemtrail presence over an area have led to considerations that everything from eugenics to wholesale destruction of populations is an aim of the apparent campaign of serial spraying over the country.

Other theories such as weather manipulation and control of global warming have been advanced for the spraying in the skies over the nation. The fact that rainstorms are often claimed to result from chemtrails in the Pacific Northwest can relate to this, but, in that area, many of the instances of severe sickness after chemtrails have also been reported.

In fact, though, it is often possible to raise objections to each theory, and that fact is frequently employed by those who call themselves "debunkers" to criticize, demean and even baldly ridicule those who want an answer to the issue of chemtrails! It is possible to counter each theory, it appears, because, in fact, no one is universally correct! It appears that many different purposes are being served by chemtrails, and, for each, different substances are being sprayed into the air. To claim one unique purpose for every case of aerial spraying is to run the risk of not identifying correctly what is being done in each particular area.

For example, in the Northeastern part of the United States, chemtrails have been a prevalent sight for some time, now. However, there, they rarely, if ever, precipitate a rainstorm. Indeed, in that part of the country, the purpose of chemtrails seems to be to forestall rainfall.

Since at least winter of 2002, that part of the country has experienced massive drought. Reservoir levels are down almost to record lows, if not actually below them! Yet, in that time, chemtrailing has been very frequent! In fact, it had become a pattern that forecasters would predict showers or even thunderstorms a couple of days ahead, then chemtrails would be seen in abundance in the sky, and, afterward, the predicted precipitation would not come! The region would be lucky if it got a misting on days when, previously, thunderstorms were forecast. This went on through most of the winter of 2002, and has begun, again, the past couple of months.

The reason for this seems to be that, in the Northeast, the purpose of chemtrails was to disturb the process that can generate a rainstorm.

In general, a rainstorm can occur if warm, wet air rises particularly quickly into an overlying cold area. This can result in the rapid cooling of water into clouds like thunderheads. The sudden, uncontrolled invasion of wet air into cool air seems to spawn many of the systems that give rise to rainstorms.

What chemtrails seem to have been used to accomplish, for at least the past year in the Northeast, has been to steadily gently mix the air at the boundary layers between air masses. Flying in the border between wet and cold air, the chemtrails seem to have been intended to control the rate and degree of mixing of the air, allowing cloud banks to form, but not swiftly and suddenly. Wispy but not stormy cirrus clouds were the inevitable result, each time, the sky hazing over into a sheet of white, but never cumulous clouds.

Among other things countering the "arguments" of debunkers that chemtrails are only normal contrails, and not some kind of controlled program on the part of government, is that, when chemtrails formed in the Northeast, for at least the past year, cumulous clouds never formed! If chemtrails were harmless and innocuous paths of water vapor from random jets, there would have to have been at least one case when cumulous clouds formed, following such an onslaught.

But they never did.

The only reason any relief was seen in the past year in the Northeast was that chemtrails were not always laid immediately prior to an expected storm system. For a period, near the end of winter 2002, and into the beginning of spring 2002, chemtrails were not laid, just before storm fronts were expected.

When a storm was predicted, and chemtrails were not produced in the sky, the storm, generally, occurred.

Chemtrails have come to be watched for, reported and examined by a number of people. There have even been a number of web sites devoted to the subject. They include sites such as www.carnicom.com, www.chemtrailcentral.com and www.chemtrail.com.

In the last of the letters we sent, we outlined the means whereby chemtrails could be used to prevent rain and promote drought.

Immediately following them, the chemtrails slacked off in the Northeast, rains picked up and the drought lessened significantly.

The connection is not easily deniable, if at all.

But a deliberate, planned nature of the phenomena is eminently apparent.

Certainly, the chemtrails utilized in the Northeast, for about the last year, follow a pattern apparently geared toward controlling the mixing of air layers.

Once they begin, they generally last for between four and six hours. They can occur twice in a day, but not often. They have been known to occur at night, also.

Not only do they evidently prevent cumulus clouds from forming, these chemtrails almost never occur on a day when there are cumulus clouds in the sky! Once the clouds characteristic of the kind of chaotic mixing of air masses, that produces rainstorms, are present, it seems the purpose of the chemtrails in the Northeast is obviated, so they aren't attempted.

They generally do not occur, too, on very windy days, but they occur more during windy days than on days with cumulus clouds. On windy days, there, generally, isn't an air layer overlying another, so the object of chemtrails seems nonexistent, for the most part, then.

They also seem to occur more often on warm days, than on cold, or on the warmest day in a span of days.

Chemtrails in other parts of the country may be for other purposes, and so may not be laid in the same patterns as those in the Northeast - those in the Pacific Northwest, for example, may be intended to facilitate the operation of the HAARP project, only a short ways north, in Alaska - but the serious drought conditions that afflicted the country, this year, seem to indicate that that was a purpose for many of those observed in the last few months.

There seems little plausible reason - if any - to doubt that chemtrails are deliberately produced, and not normal contrails.

Unsurprisingly, however, though, there are those who seek to oppose the assertions of those who contend that chemtrails are abnormal, and should be stopped. Apparently calculatedly, they term themselves "debunkers", to inculcate the perception that concern over chemtrails is, more than "misguided", an out-and-out hoax or fraud! Indeed, a number of them have used the term "hoax" in describing the concern over chemtrails - evidently suggesting that those who address the issue are actually pulling a prank on themselves - and even accused some who pursue the issue of doing it purely for personal profit.

As if someone choosing to try to make a profit off a situation suddenly makes that situation not exist.

Many have tried to hawk fake nostrums to eliminate the symptoms of the common cold, but that doesn't make the common cold nonexistent. Moreover, the "debunkers" regularly tout the software, Flight Explorer, to "identify" aircraft using routes where chemtrails form. Not only do they, apparently, wish to negate the existence of chemtrails by simply calling them contrails, they seem to want to convince the public that they arise from innocuous, harmless aircraft simply because unidentified, unverified information a piece of software displays on a screen says it does.

They try to "counsel" people against using the guidance of their eyes and their common sense in chemtrails; they, instead, apparently, want them to blindly obey "the official story".

Indeed, such faulty "reasoning", coupled with an attitude of guile and contempt, seems universally to characterize the chemtrail debunkers.

As their own "explanation" of the phenomenon, they carp the common line that "under certain precise conditions of temperature, pressure and humidity, water vapor from jet exhaust will act as the nuclei for condensation of water in the air around the jet" The preciseness of the conditions, evidently, is intended to "explain" why all jet trails are not the elongated, long lasting sight that chemtrails are. But, within at least the last year, days with chemtrails constitute no less than about a third of the entire year! In many cases, we woke up to already hazed over skies, indicating that chemtrailing had been done before dawn, or deformed, but elongated, wispy clouds would be present in the sky, indicating that chemtrails had been laid elsewhere, and drifted to where we were. As a result, chemtrail days constitute no less than one third, and, sometimes, no less than 40%, of the days! Far from a "precise" set of circumstances.

If you add in the fact that, even after chemtrails may have passed, persistent haze can remain in the upper atmosphere, turning the sky a sickish white, or limiting the blueness of the natural sky that is permitted to show through, you have that no more than two or three genuinely blue sky days are permitted per month, anymore! Chemtrail opponents list this as one of their primary complaints with chemtrails, as well, the simple fact that they are being systematically robbed of their blue sky.

Only a few decades ago, summer could guarantee weeks worth of clear, blue days. Now, to have just one is an event, at least in the Northeast. During the past summer, in Northern New Jersey, there haven't been more than five or six days, all told, that were bright blue.

Nor is this an insignificant thing. Substituting bright blue days with heavily overcast, low-hanging skies, or persistent mists, instead of the kind of rain that will clear a sky of haze, produces a listless even despondent atmosphere. Over time, it can depress individuals and even sap them of initiative.

Experiments during the Seventies and Eighties, in fact, suggested that certain colors can promote certain types of responses. Pink was found, in some, to have a calming effect; brown and orange were found to stimulate appetite; and bright, light blue was found to promote imagination. Isolation cells in a number of jails, as a result of this, were painted pink, and the prevalence of browns, oranges and reds in the color schemes of fast food restaurants, during the Eighties, is testament to an evident unscrupulousness in their "marketing" tactics! Withholding clear skies from the populace seems, also, targeted at controlling the people's initiative and foresight.

Someone in government, it appears, doesn't want the people to think for themselves about what they see going on around them.

As reliable as the provability of tenuousness in the debunkers, "arguments" - and the eminent apparent danger in chemtrailing - is the debunkers, coming up with yet other attempts, at discrediting those who oppose chemtrails.

They couldn't deny the existence of days when huge numbers of chemtrails clutter the skies, because innumerable photographs to the contrary exist. If that wasn't the case, there is little doubt they would try to utterly and baldly deny their existence, altogether. Initially, though, they did, apparently, try the wheeze that "aircraft exhaust can,t alter the environment"! That has since been overturned by a number of studies indicating that, at the very least, the obscuring effect of normal contrails was enough to lower the earth's temperature by at least 1º Fahrenheit.

Equally as determinedly posited was the assertion that, even if long, environmentally-altering trails were being laid, it wasn't deliberate. Countering that is the revelation that numerous patents and proposals for using aircraft to affect weather have been filed, in the past few years alone! "Cloud seeding" is the least of the methods; preventing global warming was a major goal of many. Recently, too, even the military published a proposal to the effect of using weather control in wartime as a "force multiplier" against enemy troops. They termed their proposal "Owning the Weather by 2025"

In the face of these demonstrations of their evidently patent falsehood in opposing chemtrail followers, debunkers have taken up the line that, even though jet exhaust can affect the environment, and even though there are plans to utilize that to control the weather, jets never release anything other than normal exhaust into the air. In the recent past, however, CNN aired a report of military planes, among other things, releasing egg whites into the air to test radar methods for, putatively, tracking drug planes! It is questionable what aspect of the situation the debunkers will attempt to attack next.

And the debunkers have shown every determination to oppose suspicion about and examination of chemtrails as much as would be necessary to end questioning about them! They have taken out whole websites devoted to opposing chemtrail suspicions; they have even launched mirror sites of websites, to provide as much a saturation of the internet with their evident propaganda as possible! They run the gamut from an individual that calls themself "ChickieDeb", and identifies themself as "a housewife from Indiana" - ChickieDeb being one of those who launched three websites devoted to debunking - to an organization given the frankly questionable name "New Mexicans for Science and Reason - suggesting they see "science" and "reason" to be two totally separate and unrelated things.

Jay Reynolds, who seems proud to oppose the assertion that chemtrails are not normal contrails, and who also sponsored three separate sites to mirror his assertions, likewise states, on his website: "the real state of things that agrees with facts and reality." Meaning, presumably, that, for Mr. Reynolds, "facts" and "reality" are two totally separate and unrelated things. Before struggling to oppose investigation into chemtrails, the debunkers, it appears, should attempt developing a pose that doesn't come across as that of an incompetent poseur.

The nature of the debunkers, refutations, however, is consistent with the stock in trade of those without a leg to stand on. Pre-eminent among their "tools" is out-and-out derision. Jay Reynolds titles his mirror sites "Contrails or Trails-CON?" One of the devotees of chemtrail examination, William Thomas, he terms a "snakeoil salesman".

On ChickieDeb's site, cdebsjournal.topcities.com/Rhaltitude.htm, she quotes Jay Reynolds as characterizing those who mobilize the movement to study chemtrails as "X-file wackos", and ChickieDeb openly agrees. Larry Lawson, whom ChickieDeb identifies as a "chemtrail perpetrator", is also referred to, by her, as a "pipsqueak".

On the same page, incidentally, ChickieDeb condemns "religious fundamentalists", like she models Mr. Lawson to be, who "think that God is unable to take care of things by Himself". ChickieDeb seems of the opinion that people should just sit still and do nothing, leave it all to God - or whatever she tries to pass off as a deity - to do things in the world. She seems intent on coercing others into a willing complacence and disinterest in taking action in the world. The title of another of her websites devoted, apparently, to deceiving people about the reality of chemtrails is "DO YOU WANT TO STOP BEING AFRAID?"

Apparently she couldn,t be happier if everyone agreed not to be concerned about what is being done to their environment, and just let their rights and interests be run roughshod over! Even an atheist would accept that God would not have created man just to sit and watch the world; a purpose for creating man was so that man could do things and not leave it to God to "take care of things by Himself". Having people stand up for themselves, however, seems anathema to what ChickieDeb has in mind for them.

The debunkers seem never at a loss for disparaging names to call those who seem to threaten the government secret they work so hard to hide, or a boundless store of contempt for others.

The evident attempt to vilify suspicion of chemtrails is also a commonplace on debunkers, websites. ChickieDeb titles at least one of her mirror sites, worldzone.net/international.checkiedeb, "CHEMTRAIL HOAX - The Best Kept Secret In the World". On that site, ChickieDeb gives space to an article by Jay Reynolds, entitled "HOW TO RUN A CHEMTRAIL SCARE FOR FUN AND PROFIT". On one of the pages on one of ChickieDeb,s mirror sites, www.worldzone.net/international/chickiedeb/cgi/col2.shtml, chemtrail opponents are belittled for accusing debunkers of not using logic, yet it is said, of them, that "they refuse to recognize logic and rationale".

"Rationale", it could be mentioned, for ChickieDeb's information, means the "excuse" or "justification" one uses to "explain" their actions. It is not an accompanying quality with logic. What ChickieDeb seems to have wanted to mention - yet apparently did not have the depth of education to supply - was "rationality".

On the page, worldzone.net/international/chickiedeb//cgi/eyeswideshut.shtml, ChickieDeb acknowledges that a term the debunkers use for chemtrail opponents is "Insane Cloud Posse".

Contempt is a large part of the debunkers, stock in trade.

When not engaging in determined vituperation of chemtrail opponents, the debunkers attempt a "validation" of their condemnation of chemtrail concerns, usually through patently indulgence in fraudulent double-talk and specious "demonstrations".

The endless, arch and professorial expositions on "temperature, humidity and pressure" is only one aspect of this tack. Even there, though, the debunkers find it difficult to work within the bounds of their own presentations. On www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.chemtrail.html, Thomas Schlatter, who passes himself off as a "NOAA meteorologist", contends that long lasting contrails can occur if the temperature is less than 70º and the relative humidity of air, compared to ice is greater than 100%, that is, there is more than enough water vapor to replace ice as ice dissolves in the sunlight. The apparent purpose of this seems to be just to give the impression that long lasting contrails are possible.

But it soon became evident that this was also describing an eminently unlikely - if not patently impossible - situation.

To, apparently, patch up this problem, ChickieDeb, on the web page, cdebsjournal.topcities.com/leadpage.htm, apparently desperately and recklessly blurts that "contrails can occur with zero humidity if the temperature is cold enough". Leaving aside the fact that she conveniently says only that "contrails" - not long-lasting contrails - can occur under those conditions - which no one denies - on the web page the link she provides leads to, someone named Dr. Patrick Minnis asserts only that meteorological instruments reading humidity at high altitudes have been, supposedly, consistently wrong, so that, presumably, high altitude humidities are larger than expected.

Importantly, on the page, it also refers only to "contrails" forming, not long-lasting contrails. In what seems to constitute little more than what is termed "hand-waving", Dr. Minnis then goes on to state, without explanation or justification, that relative humidities have to be greater than 100% for "contrails to persist for very long", but, "at those cold temperatures, a small error in moisture measurement" can lead to "a large error" in the relative humidity. Supposedly, then, not only are relative humidities at high altitudes greater than previously thought, they, putatively, are even greater than they appear, because readings might have a small error that can translate into a massive difference in the actual humidity.

The "margin of error" the debunkers seem to want to lend to reality, to back their contentions, appears even larger and more encompassing that the actual situation.

Characteristic of other forms that the pedagogic patronizing of the debunkers can take is in the typically flippantly entitled entry "fun With Math", on web page www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000033.html.

There, a "correspondent", who takes the name BEE, puts up the pose of "proving" that "there is simply no way physically for anything sprayed at the height at which contrails (or supposed chemtrails) are observed to reach any kind of concentration on the ground which would have any effect on people whatsoever".

He begins by considering a "worst case scenario" of a jet hovering overhead, at various heights, dumping different amounts of material, with wind going at various speeds. Among other things, though, he assumes a "source rate" for the spraying of "63 billion micrograms/second". This works out to 63,000 grams/second, or 140 lbs./second. That's almost 8 tons per minute! If BEE is willing to be so unreliable in even this early part of the "explanation", there is no reason to trust him in what he says later.

His conclusions are no less questionable. Proceeding from a supposed height, for the jet, of from 2 to 2000 meters above the ground, he reels off supposed "maximum concentrations" for the sprayed substance. He goes from 19.3 billion micrograms/cubic meter to .75 micrograms/cubic meter. The highest value is related to a situation for the plane 2 meters in the air, the lowest value, for one 2000 meters high. He evidently wants to "dramatically demonstrate" that the results from a "realistic" situation are very, very low.

An eminent problem with that, however, is that, not only does BEE look at varying heights for the jet, for each jet, there is also a different distance downwind looked at. The jet 2 meters in the air has a "maximum concentration" 60 meters downwind quoted, a jet 100 meters high has a value at 15,000 meter downwind given, and for the jet at 2000 meters, the concentration at 3.5 billion meters, or 2.2 million miles, downwind! It is unlikely, if not completely impossible, that material would drift for 2.2 million miles over the earth, before coming to rest.

What is more, for all the insistence, by BEE, that winds would dissipate chemtrail material, that has never been observed! They spread and combine with other chemtrails, but they have never been seen to be blown away by winds! In fact, it is their tendency to stay in one place, unchanged, except for spreading, for hours on end, which was one thing which brought them to the public,s attention.

If the purpose of the chemtrails was to stay in one place and, at least, physically affect the environment, such as causing a drought, or even form clouds and then let rainwater wash it down to the soil, contaminating people that way, then they are, apparently, doing exactly what was desired of them.

How easy it is for the chemtrail defenders - they shape up as little more than that! - to "exonerate" chemtrails of things no one said they were doing.

For that matter, too, all the supposedly legitimate physical calculations BEE presumably performed does not prove that there aren't substances which can affect, or even harm, people at concentrations of only about 1 microgram/cubic meter! Allergens work at very small concentrations, pathogens can be dangerous at those low levels, and various poisonous gases can be potent at even lower concentrations! Withholding important information can be as crucial as misrepresenting information, in promoting a fraudulent proposal! Add the fact that, on a day of regular chemtrailing, as many as 30 or more trails can be left in any affected area of sky, and there is a likelihood that huge amounts of dangerous material will be released.

And where displays of contempt and presumed exercises in sophistry do not succeed, the debunkers appear to rely on out and out fraud! A favored technique, for example, is saying that chemtrails are nothing more than normal contrails, then going through elaborate proofs that contrails are not unusual or dangerous and, because contrails are not unusual or dangerous - which, in truth, has not been proved! - then, what chemtrail observers complain about can,t be unusual or dangerous! Just about every chemtrail debunker site has at least one page devoted to "examining" and "explaining" contrails, then diffidently insisting that that,s all that chemtrails are - using even less proof than the chemtrail opposers use for their statements! - and "concluding" that, therefore, chemtrails do not exist, and chemtrail opposers are just chasing falsities.

The facts of chemtrails, however, do not bear out debunkers, insistences.

Among other things, the references to chemtrails began only around 1997. There are no references to unusual, persistent cloud trails before that date. Contrails didn't suddenly start to become long-lived under certain circumstances only after 1997. And it unlikely that people will have suddenly started to become aware of something as obvious, and apparently pernicious, as vapor trails that persist for hours, then spread and coalesce into sun blocking cloud decks only in 1997. The very fact that no complaints of long, spreading contrails before 1997 is sufficient to establish that chemtrails must be real, and not normal contrails.

Tellingly, though, and apparently not coincidental at all, is the fact that, in October 1997, the system of reporting visibility date, from the National Climatic Data Center, was abruptly reduced from the then standard maximum of 40 miles, to only 10 miles. To reduce visibility information that way only endangers such things as aerial navigation! To do so peremptorily, in that manner, was utterly incompatible with any consideration of protecting the welfare of citizens.

What it does seem geared for, however - what seems more important than the interests of the public! - is keeping the government from having to acknowledge that there was something out there that long range data would need them to report! Something, too, that seems likely to be nothing less than a hindrance to long-range visibility, as well.

There was something out there that the government didn't want the people to know about.

But the indications that chemtrails are real go beyond even that.

Debunkers, for example, could try to "argue" that, on days when chemtrails don,t appear, it,s because the weather conditions at the planes, height don,t permit them. The planes are there, they would demand, but the peculiar conditions that turned innocent contrails into extended lines in the sky simply weren't present. But, even at the height at which chemtrails are apparently laid, planes can be seen and heard slightly. Because they take a long time passing through the sky, that high up, they form a low rumble that can persist for many minutes.

On the days when chemtrails do not appear, neither the bright specks that the planes appear as, nor the low rumble are heard. More than that, not even normal contrails - which should form under just about any condition! - are not present. When chemtrails do not form high in the sky, it is because the planes that form them are not up there. The forming of chemtrails, then, is related more to the presence of special planes high up that particular day, and not, evidently, certain conditions affecting planes that are, putatively, present every day.

A phenomenon that chemtrail followers also point to to indicate the suspicious nature of the trails is what is termed the "on and off switch". Often, when chemtrails appear overhead, there will be a space in the trail, where what seems to be aerial spraying was turned off, for a time, then turned back on.

This does not happen, ever, for conventional contrails. Planes forming the short tails of contrail fog behind them do not go through periods when the cloud will disappear; the clouds themselves, even though they last for a short time, do not show spaces in them. Debunkers, unsurprisingly, dismiss these claims, insisting that there is nothing in the breaks in chemtrails that indicate anything out of what they term the usual.

Tellingly, though, actual addresses of the issue of the "on off switch" are rare on debunker websites. In fact, only one site, www22.brinkster.com/Seawana/Conspiracies/Chemtrails.asp, which boasts the title, "The Way of the Dodo", actually devotes any real space to an attempted "explanation" of chemtrail breaks.

In characteristically contemptuous and insulting fashion, the section begins, "Ah yes. These rare photos are a favorite among the believers." The originator of the site, who identifies himself as Skip Ernst, describes "the neanderthals running" spray operations as having "mistakenly turned off the spray for a few moments".

"Can you believe the government has hired a bunch of bumbling idiots to perform their top secrets operations?", Mr. Ernst adds, mockingly.

He posits that the breaks are caused by jets having "simply passed through a pocket of air where contrails" - carefully, he doesn,t refer to them as "chemtrails"! - "will not form. The air could be too warm or too dry to form the ice crystals which make a contrail visible."

It is eminently unlikely, if not patently impossible, that air that high up would be so warm, to begin with. The jets that form chemtrails typically fly at at least three miles high. Even if it was too warm, a trail, of sorts, of water vapor would be likely, following the jet. And, even if the air were very dry, a trace of the ice crystals from the jet engines, that supposedly form the "seed" for the chemtrail, should be visible, and it is not.

And that is leaving aside, entirely, the fact that there is little reason to believe that an isolated, tiny, patch of air could be so radically different from the overwhelming mass of air around it! If an area of warm or dry air were to intrude, it is likely that it would be no time before the rest of the air around it would bring it into equilibrium.

More than that, though, Mr. Ernst, will have to explain how it is possible for chemtrails with breaks, supposedly caused by differing air masses, to occur in close proximity to chemtrails with no breaks!

"I'll leave it at that and let you be the judge", he concludes archly.

If he's telling the absolute, incontrovertible truth, which he pretends to be, then he would be able to call it that! He wouldn't have to leave it to the reader to "be the judge".

That, in itself, all but brands the material on the Seawana site utterly untrustworthy.

Mr. Ernst also takes issue with, among other things, the observation that "most chemtrails seem to be created at altitudes above commercial flights", which can be taken to be an indication that chemtrails are not normal contrails, but the result of government flights.

"That is because the probability of a contrail being produced at a higher altitude is much greater", he retorts.

"Next please", he adds, smugly, evidently content that he has put any question of the formation of chemtrails to rest, firmly.

But, if the chemtrails are being produced at altitudes higher than commercial jets use, as he, himself, seems willing to accede, what is leaving them? It is apparent, then, that it is only government planes laying the trails, and that is far from something that discounts the likelihood of their being a government operation'

Moreover, how could Flight Explorer, which seems to record only commercial flights, attest to the flight plans of those jets causing the chemtrails?

Among the site's other demonstrations of the "character" of its developer, are a "boss button" - a switch which you click so that, if you're looking at the site instead of doing work, at the office, you can call up a realistic looking spreadsheet screen, to con your boss into thinking you're not gold-bricking.

"Surf freely with the security that comes from the knowledge that your boss remains clueless about your daily internet practices!", Mr. Ernst proclaims. Apparently, honesty and honor are alien concepts to him. But, then, in the "encyclopedia" section of the site, he proclaims he'll do just about anything for a bribe. Also in evidence are Java language banners in which Mr. Ernst regularly vents his bile at any of a number of common "pop-up" advertisements to be seen on many sites.

One such banner takes aim at "the f***ing X-Cam", the miniature camera you can hook up to your computer to see what's happening somewhere else. The site also includes a pretentious "encyclopedia" of "conspiracy theories", and a "news" page, both riddled with misspellings, and full references to those who follow those theories as "dopes", "morons" and "idiots"; and a page devoted to something called "Drunken Stumble" a game "that allows you to get rip roaring drunk - but with a purpose."

Mr. Ernst seems incapable of anything but viciousness, disingenuousness and antipathy for everything that exists.

Nor, indeed, is it only apparently "disinterested individuals" who have attempted to quell investigation into chemtrails. Branches of the government have taken it upon themselves to denounce the consideration that chemtrails were anything but ordinary contrails, and even gone so far as to officially term it a "hoax."

The United States Air Force web page on the subject, www.af.mil/environment/contrails_chemtrail.shtml, for example, is entitled "The Chemtrail Hoax"

While it may be a purview of individuals to term something a "hoax" at will, a branch of the government is considered more bound by the law in its actions, so that, for them to term something a "hoax" is automatically to have it characterized according to the legal definition of the term. More than that, it indicates that sufficient examination has been carried out to back that characterization. Legally, a "hoax" is far more than just some kind of prank, gag or practical joke; it is a willful and malicious act of mayhem, usually for the aggrandizement of the "perpetrator".

By titling their page that way, the Air Force, then, officially accuses all the honest, straightforward citizens genuinely concerned about at least the affront of their skies being clouded over, and sunlight all but banished from their lives, as malingerers and frauds.

A common tactic of the guilty is to cast the first stone and blame the innocent, at least to try to buy enough time to shore up their defenses against justice.

As with all other "debunkers", the Air Force proceeds to declare that contrails can be caused to remain for very long periods, based on temperature and humidity. Like the other debunkers, they never once assert that the conditions that would allow contrails to persist - if at all - are conditions that are likely to, or even possibly can, occur on the earth, at the present! Unlike the other "debunkers", the Air Force, on their site, don,t include barometric pressure in the "explanation", an eminently glaring omission, utterly calling everything they say into question! Also unlike the other "debunkers", the Air Force does claim that "winds" can affect the persistence of contrails.

Too, and indicative of the fact that they may engage in the eminently questionable act of taking it on themselves to term suspicion of chemtrails a "hoax", but they are still bound by considerations of justice and fairness, the Air Force, on their site, declare that contrails can be caused to last long periods of time because of "aircraft exhaust characteristics".

The nebulous reference is, apparently, meant to downplay the matter, but, technically, "aircraft exhaust characteristics" includes what is being pumped out.

And it is precisely the contention of chemtrail opponents that high flying military jets are pumping unorthodox and irregular materials into the air.

In phraseology evidently intended to gull the unwitting into believing that normal characteristics of jet exhausts can, under the right circumstances, be made to last long periods of time, the Air Force, in actuality, seems to admit that unorthodox materials in their exhaust are what is forming chemtrails.

They fill out their "disproof" of the existence of chemtrails with a list of links to "debunker" web sites that no longer exist, and one link to a site in Denmark that "demonstrates" the non-existence of chemtrails by showing pictures of chemtrails and calling them contrails! It is instructive that this practice of "proving" something doesn't exist by simply calling it something else is taking place on a site operated by the Neils Böhr Institute.

If that is the level of "intellectual discourse" involved in "debunking" chemtrails, it is only further testimony to the truth of their existence.

If that is the level of honesty involved in the movement against chemtrail opponents, it strengthens the evidence that they are, indeed, an act of craven contempt for the people.

But contempt seems a given, both in the perpetrating of chemtrails, and in the apparent attempted cover-up.

Indeed, it is apparently inherent, how spiteful and disdainful the sites devoted to debunking conspiracy theories regularly, are to those who acknowledge their existence.

If conspiracy theories really were untrue, those who subscribed to them would be deluding themselves. They would be genuinely wasting their time. That is a tragedy, and would be approached as a tragedy, by those with genuine honor and the kind of concern and regard for others that would be consistent with telling them the truth. The arrogance and disregard to be seen among the conspiracy theory debunkers is that to be found in those incapable of the truth, or of any display of honor or decency. Their very malignance proclaims their assertions utterly untrustworthy and specious.

There is every reason to believe, indeed, that those who call themselves debunkers are, in fact, quisling shills for government, trying to keep the truth from the people. They willingly admit to being considered that by many conspiracy theory examiners, and just as quickly - and without proof - dismiss the accusation, but it seems very near the truth, if not the truth itself.

And this demonstrated malevolence of character, more so than much else, pronounces conspiracy theories far from unreliable; indeed, anything but unproved, or disproved.

And that includes chemtrails.

The evidence is that, not only are chemtrails real, there seems to be a dedicated movement to try to dissuade those who acknowledge the existence of chemtrails from following up on the subject.

In recent months, since our own sending in several letters on the subject, chemtrails in New Jersey have begun to take on a new form. Instead of stretching from one horizon to the other, chemtrails laid here have begun to take the form, only, of lines across part of the sky.

It seems intended to give the impression that chemtrails do not really exist, since these go only partway across the sky. But this has only begun recently, so it cannot be a demonstration of something which existed before. But it seems related to the fact that we recently began sending letters to the editor from here on this subject.

In the end, the people must take it on themselves to see that their rights and interests are respected by government. They must involve themselves, deeply and determinedly, in government. It is up to them to see that it is their welfare that motivates government.

Julian Penrod

4 Fairfield Avenue

West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006

973 220-1601

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001551.html

http://www.rense.com/general30/deby.htm

Who Killed John Lennon?

by Fenton Bresler Part 1 of 2 [Excerpts]

"Laurel and Hardy, that's John and Yoko. And we stand a better chance under that guise because all the serious people like Martin Luther King and Kennedy and Gandhi got shot." John Lennon

Part 1

Bresler begins by questioning the "lone nut" theory. Since 1835, 15 men and 2 women have attacked "nationally prominent political leaders in sixteen separate incidents." Of those 17, only 3 have been ruled insane by law. Mark David Chapman was never found to be legally insane. "The 'lone nut' theory simply does not stand up as an all-embracing explanation covering all -- or even most -- instances of American political assassination."

Bresler offers the possibility that "Lennon, the politically most active rock star of his generation... was shot dead outside his own home by a killer who was merely a tool, a human gun used and controlled by others to destroy a uniquely powerful radical figure who was likely to prove a rallying point for mass opposition to the policies soon to be implemented... by the new United States government headed by Ronald Reagan."

Bresler quotes the late radio journalist Mae Brussell, who broke the Watergate story 2 months before the Woodward-Bernstein expose'. Brussell had no doubts: "It was a conspiracy. Reagan had just won the election. They knew what kind of president he was going to be. There was only one man who could bring out a million people on demonstration in protest at his policies -- and that was Lennon."

Bresler speculates that Chapman was a "Manchurian Candidate," brainwashed and pre-programmed to kill on command. When the moment had arrived, Chapman received his signal and performed his task.

The CIA and Mind Control

In April 1950, the CIA began work on PROJECT BLUEBIRD, the agency's fledgling attempt at mind control. "Within two years this had progressed into the substantially enlarged PROJECT ARTICHOKE. According to a later CIA internal memorandum, PROJECT ARTICHOKE was intended to 'exploit operational lines, scientific methods and knowledge that can be utilized in altering the attitudes, beliefs, thought processes and behaviour patterns of agent personnel. This will include the application of tested psychiatric and psychological techniques including the use of hypnosis in conjunction with drugs.' In turn, only one year later, in April 1953, PROJECT ARTICHOKE became MKULTRA, the generic name for a series of on-going investigations by the agency's Technical Services Staff."

Some might object that pre-programming a subject to be a "killer on command" violates the common wisdom that one cannot be hypnotised to do something that is contray to one's individual morals. Yet not all "experts" are in agreement on this. For example Milton Kline, a New York psychologist and former president of the American Society for Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis believes it is *not* impossible to create a "Manchurian Candidate." According to Kline, "It cannot be done by everyone. It cannot be done consistently, but it can be done."

"There seems little doubt that sophisticated techniques have now reached the stage where, if murder is desired, a killer, once programmed and 'on hold', can be triggered into action."

Sirhan Sirhan

Bresler suggests that Sirhan Sirhan, the supposed lone assassin of Robert F. Kennedy, was a pre-programmed killer. Seven years after the RFK assassination, Sirhan was interviewed by psychiatrists. These recorded interviews were analyzed with the help of a Psychological Stress Evaluator (PSE), a device which measures micro-tremors in the voice. Based on the PSE, former high-ranking intelligence officer Charles McQuiston stated: "I'm convinced that Sirhan wasn't aware of what he was doing. He was in a hypnotic trance when he pulled the trigger... Everything in the PSE charts tells me that someone else was involved in the assassination -- and that Sirhan was programmed through hypnosis to kill RFK. What we have here is a real live 'Manchurian Candidate.'"

After examining Sirhan's PSE charts, Dr. John W. Heisse, Jr., president of the International Society of Stress Analysis, agreed with McQuiston: "Sirhan kept repeating certain phrases. This clearly revealed he had been programmed to put himself into a trance."

More can be found here..

http://www.john-lennon.com/whokilled.htm

Forgetting to post a text in quotes does not equate to stealing informtion .. I checked several of the links and they worked fine .. I don't know how they could be copied wrong since they were all part of one large text.

There's no need to be so petty about who originally wrote a certain text, or a few links not workling, just because you can't prove your case.

The information I post here is NO JOKE.. So there's no reason for you to pretend it is.

Chemtrails are a FACT, and anyone who has either seen them, or bothered to research them, knows that.. Deal with it.

Wow, you'd think you would have learned your lesson the last time you had multiple broken links from copying from another site. Guess not. Were you going to credit the original author you stole all this from?

I didn't steal any information .. Anyone who bothered to click onto the YouTube video I posted here could read the text that went with it for themselves.. It's not unusual for a few links to be broken .. Web sites go down all the time.

I suspect your reason for being so confrontational about this subject stems from frustration over your obvious inability to prove that chemtrails are just "persistant contrails".

Sorry, but all of the evidence proves differently.

This proves your "persistant contrails" excuse is wrong.

This video shows two planes flying at the same altitude.. One is leaving a short contrail behind it, while the other is spraying a long chemtrail.

Weather Control - A Research Paper Presented To Air Force 2025: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/shado...

Info by Nasa about consistent 'contrails':

http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/GLOBE/sc...

Finally a reporter checked out a guy's complaint and took the samples he collected and had them tested. The result from a Dr. perspective: Barium will cause our Immune System to weaken. So maybe we won't survive the sudden "pandemic" of Swine Flu or other rare strands of Flu that keep emerging???? The constant exposure is NOT good for us, he says.

google:

- Welsbach Patent 5003186

- "weather as a force multiplier: owning the weather in 2025"

research:

AEROSOL OPERATION CRIMES & COVER-UP

http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977 Names Chemtrails As An 'Exotic Weapon' http://www.rense.com/general19/ex.htm

CHEMTRAILS TO BE BANNED BY CONGRESS?

http://www.mnmufon.org/chemt1.htm

Chemtrail Central Forum

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/F...

3/30/09 Update:

Council on Foreign Relations on Planetary Geoengineering: Add more small reflecting particles in the upper part of the atmosphere

http://cryptogon.com/?p=7709

I dont think anyone has the complete story on exactly what chemtrails are. I dont doubt that weather modification is a part of it, but take your pick on the rest. There's almost certainly a biological component to some of the spraying.

6/4/08

Becks new song "Chemtrails"

http://tinyurl.com/3vp3zk

Chemtrails - Beck

Yet another update:(many may find of interest) 3/21/08

Breaking the Nuremberg Code: The US Military Human-Testing Part 1 of Heather Wokusch discussing "Breaking the Nuremberg Code."

Covers Edgewood Arsenal, Project 112/SHAD and Stratton VA.

Also, here is her website:

http://www.heatherwokusch.com/index.p...

Update: 3/18/08

A Doctor Speaks Out About Chemtrails four scenarios

http://www.americanchronicle.com/arti...

Also, some may want to change the scary term "chemtrails" to..."cloud seeding." Just read Senate Bill 517.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billt...

Update:

Germany Admits to Clandestine Chemtrail Ops.

http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails

SHREVEPORT, LA

CHEMTRAILS: Is U.S. Gov't. Secretly Testing Americans 'Again'?

Posted: Nov 9, 2007 07:46 PM EST

Could a strange substance found by an Ark-La-Tex man be part of secret government testing program? That's the question at the heart of a phenomenon called "Chemtrails." In a KSLA News 12 investigation, Reporter Jeff Ferrell shows us the results of testing we had done about what's in our skies.

story by Jeff Ferrell

http://www.ksla.com/

Left side, sixth video down, watch it before they take it down...

Also see, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/ent...

Finally, PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79] TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520 "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM" "The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies." "The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]." -SOURCE- Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375.

Thanks Dave - that explains it.

It may explain why Cernan's Apollo 17 LM landing story didn't match that of Armstrong's, but it doesn't explain how the A17 LM could actually "freefall" (according to Cernan) without there being a danger of it not landing safely on the uneven, rock strewn, crater filled, dust covered lunar surface.

It also doesn't explain why Cernan didn't know the famous Apollo 11 "landing" story, or that his LM descent engine was different from that of Armstrong's.

The last time I e-mailed that web site owner, he told me that his entire data base had been destroyed, so even if it does return to the internet, all of the previous information is gone.

Well, they are wrong. Plenty of it is still available via the internet archive. For instance here is your first post on the "We didn't go to the Moon?" thread on WOS in March 2006.

I'm glad to see that not all of the data was lost .. Though it looks like only some of the information was recovered.. I doubt the forum will ever return as it once was.

I don't think you know what they mean.

It's not too difficult to understand what anomaly hunting and arguing from ignorance means.. The articles you linked were very clear in their meaning.

I think a lot of our disagreements have to do with an individual's perception of certain subjects.. You see Apollo as an historical fact, where as I see it as a monumental conspiracy and cover up.

You produce the evidence you believe supports your opinion, while I produce evidence that supports mine .. Which means that you will always attempt to explain away every anomaly in the official Apollo record, where as I perceive the same anomaly as being proof of fakery.

This discussion is a good example of how you've come to Gene Cernan's rescue, by explaining away his error of claiming that the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 LM landings were identical, when they weren't.

You're right in one respect though.. I was mistaken in saying that Cernan didn't remember how he allegedly landed the Apollo 17 LM.. What he didn't remember was how Armstrong allegedly landed his LM during Apollo 11.

What amazes me the most about Cernan's "mistake" though, is the fact that an "apollogist" like you, and a "conspiracy theorist" like me, knows more about the Apollo Program than the men who suppossedly flew to the Moon during that program.

Perhaps "lie" was too strong of a word to use .. I probably should have used the word "confused", or "forgetful" or some other gentler term for Cernan not knowing the Apollo 11 story of how the first man on the Moon shut the LM engine off AFTER he landed, instead of claiming to SHUT THE ENGINE OFF AND THEN FREEFALL FOR SEVERAL FEET, like Cernan did.

I find the fact that Cernan doesn't know the famous Apollo 11 story, very strange.. I also find it strange that he took the chance of freefalling the last several feet to the lunar surface, dropping like a rock, instead of gently guiding the LM down onto the rock strewn, crater covered, dust filled, uneven lunar surface.

In my opinion, the Apollo 17 story of how the LM allegedly did a freefall to the lunar surface, is just a cover for the fact that none of the Apollo photographs show any evidence of a blast crater, or even dust or little pebbles being disturbed, beneath the LM descent engine.

I watched a very interesting TV program last night called 'Fact or Faked - Paranormal Files.'

For those who haven't seen this program, the premise is this .. A team of skeptical researchers are sent various different footage of unexplained, or alleged paranormal events.. They watch about five different videos and then decide which two look the most interesting to investigate.. The type of footage usually sent to the team are of alleged ghosts, UFOs, Bigfoot, etc. .. Their mission, being skeptics, is to debunk the "paranormal" or unexplained footage by duplicating the anomalies seen in the various videos... Once in awile, after trying everything possible to duplicate and debunk certain footage, they are completley stumped and have to admit that the footage is paranormal, or at least unexplainable .. This occurs very rarely though, as they are so professional in what they do, that they usually are able to figure out how the footage was faked.

What really caught my attention last night, were the previews showing that one of the team's investigations was going to be about some of the Apollo footage, that was allegedly taken on the Moon.

Back in 2001 The Fox TV Network had the audacity to air a program called 'Conspiracy Theory: Did we Land on the Moon?'.. After that program aired, Fox was bombarded with the type of hatemongering ridicule that almost ended up with them losing their license .. Apparently the people who ardently defend Project Apollo were completely outraged by the evidence that was presented and particularly outraged that this evidence was able to persuade many people into believing that Apollo was a hoax .. People who before watching that program, had never even given the alleged Moon landings a second thought.

So remembering what type of circus occured after the Fox program aired, I knew that no other network was going to claim that Apollo was faked.. but I also knew that this very professional, skeptical investigative team would have no problem duplicating the obviously faked Apollo footage.. So I was intrigued to see what the outcome would be.

The official Apollo footage investigated by the team were from three different missions.

1) The Apollo 15 Dave Scott hammer and feather drop.

2) The Apollo 16 John Young "jump salute".

3) The Apollo 16 Charlie Duke getting up after taking a tumble.

After two of the team members suited up in official Apollo spacesuits, they very easily duplicated the Apollo 15 hammer and feather drop, by using a hollow hammer and a feather with a titanium rod in the middle of it.. It took the team no time at all to figure out how that trick was done.. They didn't go the trouble of using the same slow motion photography that NASA did when faking that particular Apollo 15 footage, but nevertheless, they duplicated the drop that was allegedly done on the Moon, exactly .. The hammer and the feather both hit the floor of their little moonset at exaclty the same time, proving that no 1/6 g vacuum was necessary to pull of the drop trick.. Just some clever props.

For their second experiment, the team used some type of spring attachment that was strapped to their moonboots .. but they couldn't achieve the same jump height or floating look that John Young achieved, so they scraped the springs in exchange for a wire rig.. Using a simple fly system wire, one of the team members easily duplicated the John Young "jump salute" exactly.. He was able to obtain the exact same height and floating look that is seen in the Apollo 15 footage, just by being suspended on a wire.

For their final experiment, one of the team kept the fly wire on and exactly duplicated Charlie Duke being helped up by Young.. In the official Apollo footge it looks as though Duke was being pulled up from behind by a wire support .. The team proved that was the case.

So now the team had a dilemma .. They had just proven beyond any doubt that the Apollo footage in question was faked using trick props and wire supports, yet they wouldn't dare admit that on national television, for fear of the same repercussions that happened to the Fox Network.

Everytime this team proves something is faked or hoaxed, they say.. Debunked!.. Ah, but not so with the Apollo Hoax evidence .. Though the team had to admit that they duplicated the Apollo footage in question exactly, thereby debunking it as being real, they each took turns claiming that in spite of the outcome of their experiments, they all still believe that Apollo astronauts walked on the Moon.

Of course they do! .. If they went with their evidence of fakery, and claimed any differently, they might just get their TV program jerked off the air!.. Or at the very least, be ridiculed to the extent that the Fox Network was, when they dared to air 'Conspiracy Theory: Did we Land on the Moon?'

So the cover up of the biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind continues.. Well, at least it does for those who aren't intelligent enough to read between the lines, anyway.

*edited for typos

Once again you are anomaly hunting, and arguing from ignorance.

Those are very "clever" put downs, which are completely predictable coming from someone whose debating style usually includes several of 'The 25 Rules of Disinformation'.. It also shows that your arguments have run out of steam.. So of course the wisest thing for you to do now, is to use this sort of ad hominem distraction tactic.

Duane, you are on moderation because you were unable to remain civil when debating with people. If no-one is around to review your posts within 30 minutes of your posting them, then that is a consequence of being on moderation. Perhaps you might think about that.

I have no idea why you decided to post some of my moderated posts immediately, but waited until now to post the others, but I assume you have your reasons .. Reasons that usually involve some kind of game, since that's what you do best here.

I took you up on your invitation to return to this forum without being on moderation, just to see exactly how long that would last.. I believe I posted here unmoderated for about two weeks, before you managed to find an excuse to place me on moderation again.. Many other members of this forum are "uncivil", yet they continue to post without being moderated.. So I suspect your reasons for placing me on moderation again have more to do with my opinions about Apollo and less to do with my being "uncivil".

Do you say that every single one of the Apollo astronauts who claimed they walked on / orbited the Moonpeople is a xxxx?

Very simple question. Yes or no is sufficient. Thank you.

Yes.

Well, no, it was an image. Here is my post.

There's no image in that second post .. It's text that looks to be cut off.

Please make your final statements in regard to this subject, then we'll leave it.

My final statement is the same as my original one .. No Apollo astronaut has ever willingly sat down to conduct face to face interviews with any of the conspiracy researchers.. Instead they run away and refuse to answer any questions pertaining to the hoax .. That type of behavior usually indicates guilt.

You didn't allow for an aging person making a minor error about an event that happened 40 years ago.

I highly doubt that Gene Cernan would have forgotton how he landed the LM on the Moon during his alleged "greatest achievenment for all mankind."

Gerald Blaine states that Kennedy was "narcissistic."

There is a major difference between being narcissistic and having Narcissistic Personality Disorder .. The former usually indicates a self centered, egotistical person, while the latter is a serious mental condition that is akin to sociopathy.

Kennedly never dispalyed the typical characteristics of having that mental disorder.

Whoever it was must have been a member of this forum since they knew the password format, which I hadn't changed (my mistake). They likely had a grudge to bear against me re Apollo. Their IP address was traced to Savannah, Georgia. Join the dots.

I highly doubt that was the case, as I don't believe there are any internet providers in Savannah, Ga. but I could be wrong about that.. If so, I would like to see the proof of that statement and also who gave you that information .. Or are you able to obtain IP addresses and there locations on your own?

Like I said before, I was wrongly accused, since I know for a fact that my IP address is located with a company in Texas.

*edited to add ...

Apparently the location of my IP address is different from my internet provider location.. My Comcast IP provider is in Texas.

I would like to thank Kathy Beckett for clearing that up for me, as I don't know much about IP address locations.. Now I understand why you claimed the IP address came from Savannah, since you knew that's where I live.

The games you guys play here are unbelievable, but then I knew that when I returned to this forum.. So there's nobody to blame but myself for walking into your traps.

I've come to the conclusion that trying to discuss any political conspiracy on this forum, really isn't worth the bother.

btw, the World of the Strange link you posted claimed that the forum was coming back, not that it was back.. The date of that posting was August 20, 2009, so apparently the web site is not back and it remains to be seen if it will ever return.

The last time I e-mailed that web site owner, he told me that his entire data base had been destroyed, so even if it does return to the internet, all of the previous information is gone.

Incredibly, a hoax believer hacked my EF account and posted messages under my name saying I believed Jack White was right after all! Amazing the depths some people will stoop to to try and discredit someone who has a different opinion to them.

I remember when that happened .. and incredibily, you, among a few other people here, thought it was me who did that..I would understand why you might think that though, considering the hacker posted two of my favorite Jack White studies, that we had recently been debating .. One showing the buggy tracks going right thru the middle of a deep crater, which would of course have flipped the Rover over if the photo had been real.. and the other study that showed the "alien shoe print on the moon", that could not have been made by an astronaut boot, though you claimed it was a double or triple print, and that's why it didn't match the other astronaut boot prints.

But what's really incredible is when Steve Ulman linked The World of the Strange forum here (where I was a member in good standing) with the purpose of ridiculing me here.. Shortly after that, you joined that forum to come after me, but one of the moderators asked you to either be polite or leave .. The next day that forum got hacked, never to recover again .. I remember it well because I lost hundereds of posts, many hours of work, and quite a stockpile of Apollo hoax articles and evidence.

Yep, some very incredible things do take place whenever Apollo is being debated.. but from my experience, it's still very much one sided as to which side does the most damage to the other.. Your side definately wins hands down on that one.

Now that I've seen your quote in context, Matthew, it doesn't appear that you were using sarcasm at all.

"I don't personally think Burton is Dawson or that they even knew each other. If they were the same, why would Burton have been PMing me on the other forum to try to pass info to Dawson? But I could be wrong. Maybe Burton is more evil than any of us know."

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4948&page=22

No wonder Jack was "confused"..

Like every other thread you post on Burton, I see you've managed to turn this one into a three ring circus also.

I also see that you're not posting some of my moderated posts .. No surprise there either.