Anthony DeFiore

Does anyone have a link to the Marrs, Hurt & Golz interviews of Gordon Arnold? The articles will be appreciated, and I'm more specifically looking for thier interview notes. Thanks as always.

If Todd or Chris Mathews, Bugliosi, Posner or whoever will account for all the shrapnel/bullet fragments inside of JFK and Connally ~ I will go quietly into the night.

While reading a little wikipedia this evening, I stumbled upon Dan Moldea, The Right Wing and The Clintons. I couldn't help recalling Moldea's TV performance regarding the RFK Assassination, and how he was hired (by ABC?) to prove Sirhan's guilt. It is interesting to note that the Moldea(s), Posner(s), Bugliosi(s), Jennings(s), Mathews(s), O'Reilly(s), Drudge(s) and others of the world seem to illustrate an involvement in disproving conspiracies, devastating Democrats and generally promoting the conservative right in the USA. I just wonder if it is all guilt by association as it concerns those fateful moments in Dallas.....? "The Clinton Chronicles: A Political Firestorm This reintroduction of Ruddy's ideas followed the publication of another book, penned by veteran crime reporter Dan Moldea, titled A Washington Tragedy: How the Death of Vincent Foster Ignited a Political Firestorm. Moldea was approached in 1997 by Regnery Publishing House, a famously conservative group whose leadership was nevertheless impressed by Moldea's published works, including an exhaustive critique of LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman, another Regnery author. In researching the debacle created by and surrounding Foster's death, Moldea found that the most oft-used conspiracy scenario could be traced back to Park Police Major Robert Hines, who shared the idea with Reed Irvine of (Accuracy in Media), and Christopher Ruddy, who was then at the New York Post.[12] Moldea concludes, and Maj. Hines publicly maintains, that Hines incorrectly told Irvine and Ruddy "...that there is no exit wound in Foster's head." Moldea profers further: "I don't think there was anything nefarious here; he was being approached by reporters and he wanted something to say."[12] Still, the "missing" exit wound claim continued to surface, propagated mainly by Christopher Ruddy and Joseph Farah. Moldea's research sought, among other things, to discover the origins of this line of investigation into the Clintons' credibility. In an interview for Salon.com, he suggests that "Foster had some blond hair and carpet fibers on his suit jacket, and he had semen in his underwear. So, the Jerry Falwells and the right-wing crowd get a hold of this information, and…they start making movies alleging that the Clintons were involved in this murder."[12] In 1994, Falwell subsidized the creation of a film called The Clinton Chronicles that featured Christopher Ruddy's claims that the gun that killed Foster was placed in his hand after the fact, and that Foster's body was laid out to give the appearance of suicide, among others.[12] Funding for the film was provided by Citizens for Honest Government, an organization to which Falwell gave $200,000 in 1994 and 1995.[13] The CHG covertly paid individuals who had provided information to media outlets such as the Wall Street Journal editorial page and the American Spectator magazine;"[13] and in 1995, made discretionary payments to two Arkansas state troopers who had spoken out in support of the idea of a conspiracy surrounding Foster's death.[13] The two troopers--Roger Perry and Larry Patteson--had also previously given testimony supporting Paula Jones' claims of sexual misconduct and misuse of government resources against Bill Clinton (See: Troopergate) .[13] Patrick Matrisciana, president of Citizens for Honest Government, produced The Clinton Chronicles video and appeared in its commercials as an "investigative reporter" where he & Rev. Falwell engaged in the following exchange[13]: Falwell: "Could you please tell me and the American people why you think that your life and the lives of the others on this video are in danger?" Matrisciana: "Jerry, two weeks ago we had an interview with a man who was an insider; his plane crashed and he was killed an hour before the interview. You may say this is just a coincidence, but there was another fellow that we were also going to interview, and he was killed in a plane crash. Jerry, are these coincidences? I don't think so." When asked about the spot, Matrisciana admitted he was not a reporter and replied "I doubt our lives were actually ever in any real danger. That was Jerry's idea to do that ... He thought that would be dramatic."[13]"

Looking for help in trying to secure a professionally created DEM of Dealey Plaza. Any help is appreciated. A survey map or topographic map is also something that I am looking for. THX

Sign me up as one to say, "What the hell are you talking about Mr. Thompson?!"

Terribly sad. I had emailed with Doug in early December. He was working on his book, and needed some recent Dealey Plaza photos. When I didn't get any emails back confirming from him, I was concerned. I am also terribly sad for the fact that he never finished his book.

Disagree. Moldea did a documentary to support his claims, and by the end of it, he appeared flustered and trying to support unsupportable body positions of RFK. The fact that the kitchen doorway had three plus bullet holes in it, and now it has been destroyed for years is a pretty sad testament that justice was not done here.

Pat, Ted Charach found the gun. In my opinion, The Second Gun is a fantastic documentation of conspiracy to kill RFK. All the best, TD

Mr. Plumlee, I was wondering if I might ask youa question on the forum. If you would, and it would be greatly appreciated by me, what was the reason that you and Sergio walked up the hill on the south knoll and along the foot path to cross the rail tracks? Why didn't you both follow the easier path under the over pass to your parking lot? Thank you for your time, and all you posts. They have been invaluable.

Steve, that's the VHS set I bought! Nice post. TD

Thats BS John! You allow Gary Mack to be a member of your great forum and what does he do? He hides behind his position at the 6th Floor so he dosent have to post It must be nice and easy to have others post for you and not have to answer to anybody on the forum I believe that if he is a member of this forum he should have to post The fact that he ran an email campaign against you makes me very upset! Dean, With a little help from Mr. Mack, I must say, that he was not the person I saw at the bookstore.

John, he testified before congress in his career. The archives must have something. Purchased and old documentary VHS set on the CIA years ago, and I believe I remember him testifying and Helms too before Congress in it.

In a complete overview of JFK's responses to the militarists surrounding his administration and the players not in his close circle (JCS, Acheson, LBJ, Rusk and even to a large extent McNamara and the Bundys), it is obvious to me how JFK was being quickly potrayed in his presidency (before he even was sworn in) and scapegoated as an appeaser like his Dad. In this background, it is conclusive to me how JFK was assassinated more for his reluctance to go into Vietnam with MacArthur by his side and JFK's desire to deal with Castro / Che / Soviets in the western hemisphere. From the militarist's view (thank you to Daniel Elsberg), American Cold War Foreign Policy was planning to proceed with it's devised plan on engagment with the Soviets on a worldwide domino theory attack rather than JFK's view that the policy of world wide engagement was flawed and strictly a MIC devised plan to militarize the USA instead of seeking peace worldwide. Kruschev's bellicose nature and public persona fed this fire to a ridiculous flame ~ a detriment to world peace ~ even thought Kruschev knew his country could not win a world takeover even with the Chinese. The frenzied belief of the militarists can be understood in the backdrop of WWII, McCarthy, Hoover and the belligerence of men like Acheson and Dulles. But the deeper truth is how all of this documentation in memos and footnotes has come to illustrate how the CIA WAS the defacto US Goverment of the USA during the Cold Ward up until Carter eviserated it with Stansfield Turner. It made the CIA a private corporation manipulating Reagan until the wall came down. The Bush Presidencies further justifies my belief that the CIA STILL controlled our country up until perhaps the day Richard Helms died, and Gorbi fell to a house coup. Gorbi knew the Soviets were doomed on the world conquest stage, and Mao had completely devastated the Chinese threat to preserve his own power. With all this said, in a very terse summary, JFK was a percieved mortal threat to the CIA in 1960. The young pups at Foggy Bottom weren't even safely ensconced at Langley yet, and here is this President threatening to break it into pieces. Fletcher Prouty's descriptions in his many writings attests to all of it. But even darker to this all is how Nixon's and LBJ's roles contributed to JFK's eventual demise via Operation 40 and LBJ's & Nixon's involvment and servitude to the MIC. The growth of the MIC production and economic base in Texas and California from the 1960's thru 1990's illustrates my point profoundly. With the rash of assassinations and worldwide attempts on government leaders thru the 50's and 60's can we honestly just blame the wise guys and the crazy and divided pre-Castro Cubans as the only conspirators to the obliteration of JFK's head on Elm Street and into the lap of his wife on that November day in 1963. No way. JFK's annihilation that day was a visible warning to all elected officials around the world that facisim was alive and well in the world and living under the (limited media coverage of that day) quilt of democratic governments. It wasn't a Cold War. It was a Hot War, and billions of people suffered under it and it was a mystery to us all because the press was limited and infiltrated by the intelligence boys all along ~ when did Mockingbird really start? When Ben Bradlee went to the WP, Tom Braden's presence on CNN's Crossfire or Alsop carring the water for the CIA all those years? Unfortunately, by the time JFK and RFK realized how pervasive the intelligence community's hold on our country was ~ they were killed. The spirit of The Kennedy Influence on our country is best illustrated by the unceasing memorials and street signs that bear their names. And to the unflinching perpetuation of this site and the research of a great many to expose the JFK Assassination for what it truly was ~ the end of the democratic music in the USA. Nuff said. A sad ramble ~ but more hauntingly painful to write and contemplate. But with so much said, I await the comments condemning my comment as the rant of another crazy person.

With all due respect to Harold Weisberg, a new whitewash is coming to obfuscate the real conspirators of the JFK assassination. In the media, new books, tv shows and planned movies are surfacing, as we approach the 50th anniversary, to place the entire blame of the Kennedy Assassination on the Mob, The Cubans and rogue elements of the CIA. The involvement of LBJ, The Texans, The Military Community and the CIA are going to be "whitewashed". A conspiracy will be agreed upon in The Major Media, but the true conspirators will be allowed to escape from blame. The assassination will be put to rest because conspiracy will be agreed upon, but the pillars of our society will be allowed to continue unscathed and unindicted. The motives of Vietnam, the FBI involvement in the assassination coverup, the CIA involvement will be lost. I truly see the beginnings of this in play right now.

Let them try to prosecute him for his presence in Dealey Plaza. It'll be a Supreme Court case, and provide even more publicity about the assassination! I believe that we all owe a tremendous amount of credit and admiration to Robert Groden for his great work. There are many others deserving as well. It would be my pleasure to pay your bail for you any time Mr. Groden.

Mr.Graves, the angles from the south knoll (from the middle of the concrete slated wall near the end of the overpass to the Nash Rambler in the parking lot) provide almost perfect angles to shoot at the President thru the windshield and into the throat. With a slight change in a shooters aim with the rifle, the trajectories are perfect. I was amazed at the clear shot provided from the south knoll thru the windshield on my recent visit to Dealey Plaza. I read or saw somewhere that when the limo was in what turned out to be the realized kill zone, in other words where it was when the shots were actually fired, the limo was either too far away and/or at a bad angle for the "storm sewer"shooter. --Thomas

He can self publish with Xlibris for $1000. With his fame, everyone who wants the new book can buy it on Amazon immediately. Absoute Proof will be published and well read. With Robert Groden's background and track record, what does it say that he is encountering great difficulty in getting Absolute Proof published? Couldn't Oliver Stone or someone else in Hollywood help finance the book deal? In certain circles sixty grand doesn't seem like that much money. Surely it seems they would get most, if not all of their investment back.

Folks, I was just in Dealey Plaza in May. These vendors are not only helpful, but are very informative. They never bother you for money, but I tipped them just the same. The newspaper they give out is free. If you want to see Dealey Plaza by yourself, they won't bother you. Dallas Police is as pathetic now as they were in 1963! I also had the honor of meeting Robert Groden in Dealey Plaza. He was a pleasure to talk to. He doesn't bother anyone. There were nearly 100 people in Dealey Plaza that day. This assassination will not go away until it is completely exposed. P.S. The museum is a pathetic waste of time ~ a Warren Commission pageant.

Thank you Mr. Hogan, must be my computer Parts 1-6 still work on the Mary Ferrell site. Parts 7-9 do not due "to an A&E copyright claim." I think you can still find parts 7-9 on YouTube by Googling: The Men Who Killed Kennedy Part 7 etc.

Very sharp eyes! Thanks for the insight. I think you could be on to something. Although many Nash Ramblers around in those days. It is a possible location for the shooter.

Bernice, A&E put a copyright block on Mary Ferrell's access to "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" ~ just tried to watch it. Tony your welcome Tony, Doug, hi, i will see if i can put my hands on the book, and will have a look..if i only knew where exactly it was, in the many manys, here we go again.thanks, take good care, so good to see you here, and posting..it has .been so very long..best b tom worked on the south side elm sewer opening,but i will check the book.... [[ posted on alt.conspiracy.jfk 11-22-96 by: Daeron <STAHLP@IX.NETCOM.COM>]] "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" ------------------ The show was simply superb - one of the best done documentaries on the assassination I've seen in some time. It was actually done as the 6th in the Nigel Turner (BBC) series: 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy' and this was entitled (appropriately): 'The Truth Shall Set You Free'. The presentation opened with brief excerpts from Marina Oswald, and others - as to how the subsequent coverup has corrupted and undermined the country - giving rise to an ongoing and fundamental cynicism that is unrelenting. Particular anger emanated from a Mr. Tannenbaum - who had been one of the counsels working with the House and Senate Assassinations Committee in 1978, and who had left when it became obvious the Committee was 'kowtowing' to the executive intelligence agencies (CIA, FBI) whom he referred to as resisting their requests for information every step of the way. There followed a series of vignettes - each featuring a person who - through their investigations, research, released information - have shed light on the dark corners of this event/ The first was Tom Wilson - with 30 years experience using imaging and photonics techniques in the stell industry. He has now applied this techniques - along with computer enhancement - to examine again the Zapruder film. What was revealed - using high resolution pixel imaging and Fourier analysis - was nothing short of amazing. In the head shot frame - for example - one could actually see, with Wilson's techniques- the image of the bullet, inside JFK's skull and its *track* moving from the FRONT to the REAR of the skull. Undeniable high level, high quality evidence that the shot did indeed come from the front - as we have been maintaining all along. Showing the detailed iamgery, Wilson himself found his eyes welling with tears. One could sense his painful awareness of the lies and distortions we've been fed all these years, co-mingling with his frustration that up to now none of 'officialdom' has taken his work seriously or at least tried to replicate it. He also indicated that on going to Dealey Plaza and attempting to reconstruct the placement of all key people, etc. he could not get things to fit - with the motion of the bullet seen in his imagery. However, on further inspection - and on locating a storm sewer cover at the side of Elm St. - he found that the problem was solved and indeed the shot could only have been made from that location (the fatal head shot). This was confirmed by Jack Brazil and a military team he put together in 1992, who found: a) a man could easily fit inside the storm sewer drain and have an openh view onto Elm St. and a good shot at the motorcade. the man could easily make his escape (in something like 20-23 minutes) by following out the storm sewer to the Trinity River - making his way clear and free. The scenes tracing the sewer escape route were sobering indeed - and show that indeed, the killing could be carried out as a perfect crime, with the perpetrators getting away scott free. After the Brazil demo, Tom Wilson was seen again - now examining the autopsy photos with his techniques and comparing them with the photonic/pixel densities in the head of JFK as disclosed in the pristine Mary Moorman photo (aimed toward the GK, JFK's head visible from the rear). His imaging analysis showed where genuine human tissue was located in the autopsy film- by comparing it with pixel densities in the pre-autopsy condition (as exposed from the Moorman film). What was revealed was nothing less than startling: massive sections of 'fake' material covering nearly the entire rear of JFK's head (Wilson referred to it was Mortician's plaster). This same material was also used in the front of the head, to cover the entrance wound there. Wilson's fine work, and detailed analysis, showed also what many of us have been saying all along - that the autopsy photos are indeed fakes. i think A DEEPER DARKER TRUTH is the 6th part in the men WKK..ERRORhttp://www.maryferre..._Killed_Kennedy <DIV>.IT IS THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE</DIV> 6TH PART..

My complete thanks for these photos ~ to an expert! TD

Bernice, I'm new here and defer to expertise when I encounter it ~ yours. Thank you for the thread. Tony DeFiore

S KNOLL shooter position and angle. jfkassassinationwarning.blogspot.com

Your questions and ideas are precisely why I am hoping Mr. Plumlee will post.