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  1. Good Day.... FYI.... You can read excerpts and search into McKNIGHT's book, "Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why," here.... http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/0700613900

    Gerald McKnight is working on a new book about the Kennedy assassination he said will highlight evidence drawn from recently obtained documents. He said its scope will be more expansive than his "Breach of Trust," dealing with many aspects of the case, including what he said is documented proof that the government used threats of deportation to get Marina Oswald to cooperate with its investigation, as well as evidence Oswald's defection to the Soviet Union may have been part of an Office of Naval Intelligence program to insert sleeper agents.... http://politicalassa...ing-third-book/

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  2. Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.frederick...?StoryID=132961

    (QUOTE)

    Local Author Digs for Truth

    Former Hood professor uses information act to unearth government documents

    Originally published March 11, 2012

    By Brian Englar

    News-Post Staff

    132961.jpg

    Photo by Graham Cullen

    Former Hood College professor Gerald McKnight is working on a book.

    When local author and former Hood College professor Gerald McKnight researched his first book in the 1980s, he sought government documents related to COINTELPRO, a secret FBI program aimed at surveilling, infiltrating and disrupting domestic political organizations.

    He filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the documents, but according to McKnight, the government was less than forthcoming with the information about the program, eventually deemed illegal.

    "I got a letter back from the Justice Department saying 'who the hell are you and what the hell do you think you're doing here?'" McKnight said. "It was like 'what spaceship did you come to this country in that you expect to get this information?'"

    But McKnight wasn't going away, and after spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer, he got a hearing on his request. The Friday before the hearing was to take place, the Justice Department informed McKnight that it no longer opposed the release of the documents.

    "They pushed me to see how serious I was about this," McKnight said.

    The result of his efforts was his book, "The Last Crusade: Martin Luther King Jr., the FBI and the Poor People's Campaign," which details FBI attempts to destroy King and derail the Poor People's Campaign, a 1968 march on Washington by thousands of impoverished Americans that King didn't live to see.

    McKnight ultimately prevailed in his battle for transparency, and he said the money he was forced to spend on a lawyer limited the scope of his research.

    "I got a book out of it," McKnight said. "But it could have been a lot better.

    For his second book, "Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why," McKnight relied almost entirely on documents obtained through the efforts of the late Frederickauthor Harold Weisberg.

    Weisberg's legendary struggles with the government over the release of information related to the assassination of John F. Kennedy included several lawsuits and pried loose thousands of documents from resistant federal agencies.

    "He was at this from the day after Dallas until he died," McKnight said. "When you look at what he was able to get out of the Freedom of Information Act, it's just absolutely remarkable. And not only did he use the act to get documents, he also used his lawyer and his ability to force the FBI to bring forward certain members of the agency and they were under oath where he could question them."

    Weisberg died in 2002. In 2005, The Frederick News-Post filed a FOIA request and learned the FBI kept a file on Weisberg. The FBI believed Weisberg was a communist, and a number of internal memos chronicle the government's effort to block Weisberg's access to information regarding the assassinations of JFK and Martin Luther King Jr.

    McKnight said he is still using the documents obtained by Weisberg, along with many recently released documents in the National Archives assassination records collection, for a planned new book about the Kennedy assassination.

    McKnight said other documents related to the assassination are still being withheld, including what he said are as many as 2.4 million pages on Lee Harvey Oswald from the Office of Naval Intelligence. Other withheld documents include nearly 300 pages dealing with George Joannides, a CIA case officer McKnight and other researchers believe is key to demonstrating that Oswald was an asset of U.S. intelligence.

    Former Washington Post reporter Jefferson Morley has been fighting to have the documents made public since 2001, but the CIA has successfully argued that their release would cause "extremely grave damage" to national security.

    The 1992 JFK Records Act requires agencies to release all documents relevant to the assassination by 2017, but McKnight said he is skeptical that all the information, including the Joannides documents, will ever see the light of day.

    "There may not be any files left," he said. "Either the stuff that he will get will be so innocuous that it won't be any use to him, or the CIA will go to the government and simply try to exercise a provision that there are reasons why these files cannot be released."

    McKnight said the Joannides documents are only a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to the JFK assassination, and that many important documents already available to the public haven't been fully explored.

    "There is so much stuff that can be done," he said. "It would take a whole team of interested and capable people to go through it all."

    (END QUOTE)

    You can read excerpts and search into McKNIGHT's book, "Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why," here.... http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/0700613900

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  3. Good Day .... FYI....

    http://www.smdp.com/...-read-this.html

    (QUOTE)

    opinion and commentary

    Laughing Matters

    Hoping the CIA doesn't read this

    By Jack Neworth

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    Cold War Warrior: Francis Gary Powers next to a U-2

    reconnaissance plane. photo by Cold War Museum.

    February 10, 2012

    Perhaps I'm a tad paranoid because today I'm writing about the 50th

    anniversary of one of the most controversial moments in the Cold War.

    And one that the CIA had its greasy tentacles all over. By the way,

    some historians postulate that we didn't so much win the Cold War

    against the Russians as we outspent them.

    Some think those were better days. Sure there was the threat of

    nuclear annihilation, but at least the country wasn't broke and planes

    weren't flying into skyscrapers. (Not to mention those unbearable Bin

    Laden basement tapes.)

    In memory of that era I wrote a satirical screenplay, "The Last Straw,"

    about rogue KGB and CIA agents longing to re-ignite the Cold War.

    Instead of saving the world from communism, grumpy CIA operative

    Rollie Southern curses that he's reduced to having to learn Arabic

    from Berlitz tapes on a recorder made in China!

    But, dear readers, that's the end of the comedy portion of today's

    missive as I reflect back on May 1, 1960. Up to that point that was

    clearly the most ominous day in the life of 30-year-old American pilot

    Francis Gary Powers. The son of a Virginia coal miner and raised

    during the depression, he was on a CIA spy mission when he and his U-2

    reconnaissance plane were shot down and captured in Russia. (At the

    subsequent trial Powers potentially faced the death penalty.)

    When the truth came out the incident embarrassed America in the eyes

    of the world. It also derailed President Eisenhower's highly

    anticipated peace summit with the Soviets scheduled for only two weeks

    later.

    The ultra-sleek U-2 was basically a glider equipped with a jet engine.

    Precarious to fly, it could, however, cruise above 70,000 feet, out of

    range of Soviet artillery. Or so we thought.

    Powers, who had flown numerous and dangerous spy missions for years,

    was now a powerless pawn in a Moscow show trial. He was sentenced to

    10 years, three in a cold, foreboding prison and seven to be in a work

    camp.

    But, after 21 months in a Russian prison, we finally come to what took

    place 50 years ago, today. On a foggy pre-dawn at the Glienicke Bridge

    in Berlin, and in a scene right out of a spy movie, Gary Powers was

    exchanged for Soviet spy Rudolf Abel. But, while Abel was greeted in

    Russia as a returning hero, Powers was not.

    Powers was subjected to weeks of intense CIA debriefing and public

    criticism. (And even death threats.) The left criticized him for his

    part in the war machine and the right for his not having killed

    himself and destroyed the U-2 when faced with capture. (Ignoring that

    those were never his orders.)

    There were much publicized Senate hearings that, if they went poorly

    for Powers, there was talk that he might be charged with treason. But

    after his Senate testimony, Powers received a standing ovation and a

    commendation that he had "performed well under dangerous

    circumstances." (A slight understatement considering Powers had been

    shot down from 70,000 feet.)

    As it happens, in my Dec. 16, 2011 column ("Drone, drone on the

    range") I mentioned Powers and the U-2 incident. Gleaned from Internet

    sites, I noted that Powers had suspected CIA sabotage of his flight to

    destroy the upcoming summit with the Russians.

    My column posted at 5 p.m. and seemingly at 5:05 I got an e-mail

    emphatically denying that Powers believed the sabotage scenario. As

    perhaps only I can, I assumed the CIA was reading my columns!

    When I finally stopped hyperventilating, I noticed the e-mail was from

    Gary Powers Jr. So, to set the record straight on the so-called

    sabotage, I stand corrected. (Actually, I'm sitting.)

    Powers Jr. did share something about his father and Lee Harvey Oswald,

    whose military training included radar and had been stationed at a U-2

    base. Powers Sr. thought it likely that Oswald divulged to the Soviets

    the U-2's cruising altitude. (Which begs the eternal question, how did

    Oswald get back into the U.S., but don't get me started.)

    Francis Gary Powers was a Cold War warrior mistreated by his

    government. But there is some justice. This past December, the Air

    Force announced that in 2012 it will posthumously award Powers the

    prestigious Silver Star.

    "It is vindication of my father 50 years afterwards,' Powers Jr. said.

    "Dad is one of our American heroes."

    I second the motion.

    Gary Powers Jr. founded The Cold War Museum to honor veterans and

    preserve Cold War history. To learn more go to www.coldwar.org. Jack

    can be reached at Jnsmdp@aol.com.

    (END QUOTE)

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  4. Good Day.... FYI, there will be a presentation and open forum about

    the assassination on 2-7-12 at the Dixie State College in St. George,

    UT....

    http://www.stgeorgeu...ng-dixie-forum/

    <QUOTE>

    Overview of JFK assassination at upcoming Dixie Forum

    Written by St. George News on February 1, 2012 in Community News, Life

    - No comments

    ST. GEORGE – Dixie State College's noontime "Dixie Forum: A Window on

    the World" will feature a historical overview of the assassination of

    President John F. Kennedy on Feb. 7.

    The forum is free as always and will be presented by retired history

    teacher Steve Armstrong in the Dunford Auditorium of the Browning

    Resource Center on the DSC campus.

    Armstrong's presentation will include a description of the facts

    surrounding the assassination, the subsequent investigation leading to

    the Warren Commission report released in 1964, along with the 1978

    report of the House Select Committee.

    Armstrong delivered his first presentation on this subject in the

    early 1970s, and he continues to update and revise his knowledge and

    materials. He has spoken at national conventions in Chicago, Phoenix,

    Orlando and Los Angeles, along with several state and local teacher

    conventions, workshops, and high school classrooms.

    "As our nation approaches the 50th anniversary of JFK's death,"

    Armstrong said, "I believe that it's important to examine the facts

    and the controversies surrounding this tragic American event. Whether

    you were alive at the time or are now seeking knowledge of the JFK

    assassination, you are sure to find this a stimulating, interesting

    presentation."

    Armstrong taught AP American History and AP American Government during

    his 35-year teaching career. He was also an AP reader and continues to

    do consulting work for The College Board.

    For further information on DSC's Dixie Forum series, please contact

    DSC Forum advisor Professor Marius van der Merwe at 435-652-7924 or at marius@dixie.edu.

    <END QUOTE>

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  5. Mark Wahlberg is one of many lucky people who nearly ended up on one of the hijacked 9/11 planes. Wahlberg was scheduled to fly on one of the doomed flights from Boston to L.A., but decided to leave a week earlier in order to see a friend's movie at the Toronto Film Festival. But Wahlberg has never stopped thinking about what could have been. No, not his tragic, untimely death. Wahlberg thinks he could have defeated the hijackers and landed the plane, according to an online excerpt of an interview in Men's Journal:

    On being scheduled to be on one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center

    "If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, 'OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.'"

    http://www.nymag.com...st-emailed-24h5

    EDIT - Formatting

    .... Good Day Len .... WAHLBERG had, actually, originally reserved a seat on United Airlines flight # 93 on 9-11, not American Airlines flight # 11.

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  6. Truly explained in his interviews and testimony that Dougherty was essentially retarded, and easily confused. Everything backs this up. I've often wondered, however, if this wasn't by design. If Dougherty were to have been part of the conspiracy, or to have been coerced by a family member or someone he trusted into helping someone shoot Kennedy and escape, no one would have been the wiser, as he was below suspicion.

    Hi Pat.... OTTOMH, it also reminded me about the invented "slow" museum janitor character that thief EDWARD NORTON portrayed in the film "The Score" (2001), with ROBERT De NIRO Jr.

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  7. Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.statesman...ng-2074907.html

    [snipped, to save space]

    Hello Don,

    Thanks for the information.

    In January, 1983, shortly after I received copies of the autopsy photographs, Pat Valentino and I went to Dallas where we showed the pictures to as many of the Dallas doctors and nurses that could be located.

    The last doctor we saw, en route back to the airport, was Dr. Giesecke.

    None of the doctors had seen the photos before, and in the Epilogue to the 1988 (Carrol and Graf) edition of BEST EVIDENCE, I described their reaction.

    I just spoke with Pat, and he is checking his records, because--as he just reminded me--we made a tape of our impressions immediately afterwards.

    The two of us may prepare a small write-up, and if we do, I'll post it here.

    DSL

    1/3/12 9:50 PM PST

    Los Angeles, CA

    .... Very interesting, to be sure, David .... Will definitely look forward to reading it when you get a chance to write it.

    Hopefully the write-up will be about all of the Parkland doctors that you and Mr. Valentino were able to speak with, and details not (yet) provided in the BE epilogue, and not limited to only Dr. Giesecke.

    Have you read the article by Dr. Donald W. Miller Jr., "What Kerouac, Kennedy, Lincoln, and Practicing Medicine Have Taught Me About Liberty" (its link is provided within the "Men of Courage" homepages website, page 3).... Dr. Miller worked with Dr. Perry in later years.....

    A quick question.... in your times in Dallas, did you ever obtain access to the west-facing roof line of the Dal-Tex?.... say.... around 40' north of its southwest corner, in vertical alignment above the middle column of the DT paired windows?

    :{ )-]

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One

    Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  8. anithankspopupgy5.gifBarry.... Appreciate that, very much.

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage : President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map : Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report : "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

    Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

    Visual Report : Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery : "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

    Documented 2nd Headsnap:

    West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394

    T ogether

    E veryone

    A chieves

    M ore

    For the United States:

    advisory7regional.gif

    http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

  9. Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.statesman...ng-2074907.html

    <QUOTE>

    Doctor who treated JFK in ER after shooting dies

    DALLAS— An anesthesiologist who attached a heart monitor to President

    John F. Kennedy in a Dallas hospital's emergency room and interviewed

    wounded Texas Gov. John Connally for surgery has died. Dr. Adolph H.

    "Buddy" Giesecke Jr. was 79.

    The doctor's son, Martin Giesecke (GEEZ'-eh-kee), says his father died

    Dec. 24 at his home in the Dallas suburb of Irving.

    The elder Giesecke was working at Parkland Hospital on Nov. 22, 1963,

    when Kennedy was assassinated and Connally was struck while riding in the

    same vehicle. The son says Dr. Giesecke recalled that the president didn't

    flinch while he inserted heart probes into Kennedy's skin.

    Giesecke spent most of his career at Parkland's neighboring University of

    Texas Southwestern Medical Center. He was chairman of the anesthesiology

    department from 1981 to 1992.

    <END QUOTE>

    .... brief details from my personal list of 7,221 persons/suspects that were

    related/possibly-related to events before/during/after the assassination....

    .... On 11-22-63 ADOLPH HARTUNG "Buddy" GIESECKE JR., the Parkland Assistant

    Chief of Anesthesia, helped JENKINS "establish ventilation," then after GIESECKE

    attached EKG monitoring equipment to JFK (about 5-minutes), he was

    then called to trauma room #2 to administer anesthesia to CONNALLY, and, he

    was also involved in CONNALLY's first, second and third surgeries;

    .... warrenatti-testified he saw on JFK "a very large cranial wound with loss of brain

    substance and it seemed that most of the bleeding was coming from the cranial

    wound" and "It seemed that from the vertex to the left ear and from the browline

    to the occiput on the left-hand side of the head the cranium was entirely missing.";

    .... warrenatti-testified he did not see JFK's neck front wound;

    .... warrenatti-testified that discussions about the JFK and CONNALLY procedures did

    take place among the Parkland staff, and, for a man from the "American Medical

    Association, as a historian. We discussed it with Dr. Mike Bush, who then reported

    it in the Anesthesiology Newsletter, which is a publication of the American Society

    of Anesthesiologists," and he met with a Secret Service Agent whose name he did

    not recall;

    .... He became a volunteer U.S. Army veteran sometime after graduating

    medical school in 1957 (doctor);

    (some references for him)

    "The JFK Medical Reference"

    "Three Patients at Parkland Hospital" (January 1964)

    06H072

    WCR66

    "Rush to Judgment" (book)

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

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    FYI.... http://www.guardian....over-secret-fbi

    I am surprised that Tony did not mention anything about Hoover and his

    FBI-regime's "most thorough investigation in history" of the JFK

    assassination.

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    The secret life of J Edgar Hoover

    For half a century, the FBI director waged war on homosexuals,

    black people and communists. Now, a controversial film by

    Clint Eastwood is set to reveal some of the explosive truth

    about him. Here, his biographer Anthony Summers tells all

    Anthony Summers

    The Observer, Saturday 31 December 2011

    Article history

    PHOTO caption: Long arm of the law: J Edgar Hoover in 1936.

    Photograph: New York Daily News Archive/Getty Images

    J Edgar Hoover was a phenomenon. The first Director of the FBI, he

    remained in office for 48 years, from his appointment after the First

    World War to his death in 1972, achieving fame and extraordinary

    power. For public consumption when he died, President Richard Nixon

    eulogised him as: "One of the giants… a national symbol of courage,

    patriotism and granite-like honesty and integrity." He ordered flags

    to fly at half-mast and that Hoover's body lie in state in the

    Capitol.

    In private, on hearing that he had died, Nixon had responded merely:

    "Jesus Christ! That old cocksucker!" Months earlier, closeted with key

    advisers, he had held forth on the need to persuade the elderly Hoover

    to resign. "We have on our hands here a man who will pull down the

    temple with him, including me."

    Nixon, soon to be disgraced and forced to resign, was of course

    himself no paragon. Most presidents before him, though, had had cause

    to fear Hoover or been troubled by what his FBI had become. Harry S

    Truman wrote during his presidency: "We want no Gestapo or secret

    police. FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex-

    life scandals and plain blackmail… Edgar Hoover would give his right

    eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him."

    Hoover himself, meanwhile, had a personal secret that – in his era –

    could have destroyed him if revealed. Clint Eastwood referred to it

    this year before the launch of his movie, when he assured the J Edgar

    Hoover Foundation that J Edgar would not "portray an open homosexual

    relationship" between Hoover and his long-time male companion, Clyde

    Tolson.

    Eastwood stretched the truth. Though there is just one passionate kiss

    between Leonardo DiCaprio and Armie Hammer, the two actors portraying

    them in the movie, the relationship with Tolson is a central theme. In

    real life, all Washington knew was that the pair dined daily together,

    vacationed together, did everything but move in together, and the

    whispers flew. When a magazine article in the 1930s referred to

    Hoover's "mincing" gait, and a diplomat commented on his "conspicuous

    perfume", Hoover struck back. He gathered derogatory information on

    the offending journalist, and asserted – falsely – that he did not use

    perfume. Real information on the Hoover-Tolson relationship surfaced

    only long after both men were dead, during research for my book.

    A surprising find was the account by Luisa Stuart, once a celebrated

    model, tracked down because she featured in a droll photograph taken

    with Hoover and Tolson one New Year's Eve in the late 1930s at the

    Stork Club – the place to be seen in New York at the time. In the

    photo, Hoover is shown holding his hands up as Stuart, armed with a

    toy shotgun, "threatens" him. Later that night, in the dark of a

    limousine when they left the club, she remembered: "I noticed they

    were holding hands all the way, just sitting there talking and holding

    hands with each other… I was so young and those were different times.

    But I'd never seen two men holding hands."

    Joseph Shimon, a former Washington police inspector, recalled a taxi

    driver reporting the pair had been "kissing and ass-grabbing" during a

    cab journey. Harry Hay, founder of America's first gay rights group,

    remembered that on vacation in California, in "a circle in which they

    didn't have people who weren't gay… They were nodded together as

    lovers."

    The Eastwood movie includes a bizarre scene that depicts Hoover, after

    his mother's death, donning one of her dresses. It is a nod towards

    allegations I first reported, that he on occasion cross-dressed. I had

    information from three sources, two men who said an "easily

    recognisable" photograph of Hoover in an evening gown circulated in

    the gay community in 1948, and an account by a millionaire's former

    wife of secret sex parties that she claimed to have witnessed in the

    late 50s. Hoover, the woman said, had been "dressed like an old

    flapper, like you see on old tintypes".

    Bill Clinton, who as president in 1993 was mulling over who to appoint

    as FBI Director, thought the cross-dressing reports were hilarious.

    "It's going to be hard," he grinned during a speech at a press

    function, "to fill J Edgar Hoover's… pumps." That I published such

    allegations at all, however, to this day draws roars of fury from old

    Hoover loyalists.

    Other accounts of the Director's alleged sexual activity, if true,

    would certainly have destroyed him had they become public. A former

    Bureau inspector and trusted associate named Jimmy Corcoran said years

    later that Hoover, youthful at the time, had once asked him to deal

    with a serious "problem". He had been arrested on sex charges

    involving a young man during a trip to New Orleans. Corcoran, who had

    powerful contacts in the state, said he intervened to hush the matter

    up.

    There is, too, a claim that as late as 1969, when Hoover was in his

    early 70s, he dallied with teenage boys during his habitual summer

    break in California. An element of corroboration came from Don Smith,

    an officer on the Los Angeles police vice squad, who told me of

    interviews he conducted with youngsters during a pedophile

    investigation. "The kids," Smith said, "brought up several famous

    names, including those of Hoover and his sidekick".

    For me, the most significant, credible information on Hoover's

    sexuality came with the discovery that Hoover for a while consulted

    Marshall de G Ruffin, a Washington psychiatrist who became president

    of the Washington Psychiatric Society. De Ruffin's widow Monteen

    recalled learning from her husband that his distinguished patient was

    "definitely troubled by homosexuality". After several sessions,

    however, "Hoover got very paranoid about anyone finding out he was a

    homosexual, and got scared." As if to compensate, Hoover lashed out at

    and sought to expose other homosexuals. For years he had his agents

    infiltrate and monitor homosexual-rights groups, while he sounded off

    publicly about "sex deviates in government service".

    My conclusion after five years' research was that while Hoover may

    have spent much of his life repressing his private urges while

    building an image of himself as the acme of sexual purity, he did

    sometimes lapse – risking catastrophe every time. Having studied the

    information I assembled, two noted specialists in psychiatry and

    psychology said they believed Hoover's sexual torment was very

    pertinent to his use and abuse of power as America's top law-

    enforcement officer.

    Dr John Money, professor of medical psychology at Johns Hopkins

    University, thought Hoover "needed constantly to destroy other people

    in order to maintain himself. He managed to live with his conflict by

    making others pay the price." Dr Harold Lief, professor emeritus of

    psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, concluded that Hoover

    suffered from "a personality disorder, a narcissistic disorder with

    mixed obsessive features… paranoid elements, undue suspiciousness and

    some sadism. A combination of narcissism and paranoia produces what is

    known as an authoritarian personality. Hoover would have made a

    perfect high-level Nazi."

    The eight decades of Hoover's life tell their own story. As early as

    his teen years, his mind was closing on issues that were to dominate

    his era. In the school debating society, he argued against women

    getting the vote and against abolition of the death penalty. He could

    never bear to come second in anything. When his father began to suffer

    from mental illness, a niece told me, Hoover "couldn't tolerate the

    fact. He never could tolerate anything that was imperfect." Another

    relative said: "I sometimes have thought that he really had a fear of

    becoming too personally involved with people." William Sullivan, a

    close FBI associate, thought his boss "didn't have affection for one

    single solitary human being".

    Hoover joined the Bureau – at that time just the Bureau of

    Investigation (the word "Federal" was only added in the 1930s) – as

    America's first great Communist scare was getting under way, and

    handpicked as his assistant a man named George Ruch. One of two key

    associates to name their own sons J Edgar, Ruch expressed astonishment

    that left-wingers should even "be allowed to speak and write as they

    like". Hoover and Ruch favoured deporting people merely for being

    members of radical organisations, and used the Bureau to spy on

    lawyers representing those arrested in the infamous Red Raids of 1920.

    One of them, on whom he was to keep tabs for half a century and deem

    "the most dangerous man in the United States", was future Supreme

    Court justice Felix Frankfurter.

    Hoover never joined a political party and claimed he was "not

    political". In fact, he admitted privately, he was a staunch, lifelong

    supporter of the Republican party. He secretly aspired to be president

    and considered running against Franklin D Roosevelt, whom he thought

    suspiciously left-wing. Hoover publicly expressed support for Senator

    Joe McCarthy shortly before McCarthy claimed Truman's State Department

    was harbouring 200 members of the Communist party. His agents slipped

    file material to the senator for use in his infamous inquisition,

    while publicly denying doing so.

    The favourable publicity Hoover enjoyed was partially deserved. He

    cleaned up a Bureau that had been notorious for corruption and

    inefficiency, replacing it with an agent corps that became a byword

    for integrity. One veteran defined the ideal new recruit as a man who

    had to represent "the great middle class", who "will always eat well

    and dress well, but will never get that sleek Packard or sumptuous

    house. He belongs to the Bureau body and soul".

    Hoover brought modernity and co-ordination at a time of

    disorganisation. He built the first federal fingerprint bank, and his

    Identification Division would eventually offer instant access to the

    prints of 159 million people. His Crime Laboratory became the most

    advanced in the world. He created the FBI National Academy, a sort of

    West Point for the future elite of law enforcement.

    While all this was positive, Hoover's Division 8, euphemistically

    entitled Crime Records and Communications, had a priority mission.

    Crime Records pumped out propaganda that fostered not only the image

    of the FBI as an organisation that spoke for what was right and just,

    but of the Director himself as a champion of justice fighting "moral

    deterioration" and "anarchist elements". Hoover used the department to

    preach the notion that the political left was responsible for all

    manner of perceived evils, from changing sexual standards to

    delinquency.

    Crime Records portrayed Hoover as the dauntless scourge of serious

    crime. In the movie J Edgar, long sequences are devoted to his

    supposed role in tracking down the murderer of the aviator Charles

    Lindbergh's baby son. In real life, while Hoover postured as the

    Sherlock who led the probe, the case was in fact broken thanks to work

    done by another federal agency. Similar phoney self-promotion featured

    in the fight against the bandits of the 30s, Bonnie and Clyde, Machine

    Gun Kelly, John Dillinger and Alvin Karpis. Hoover hogged the

    limelight when the thugs were killed or captured and was jealous and

    vindictive when it fell instead on one of his proteges.

    Late in the Eastwood movie, his companion, Clyde Tolson, peruses a

    memoir Hoover has just completed about his life and career. Then,

    reproachfully, he remarks that the account is a pack of lies. There

    was no real-life memoir, but the line is perceptive. Issues of fact

    versus fabrication and distortion, truth versus outright lie or self-

    delusion, dominate Hoover's story.

    Hoover's public position on race, Southerner that he was, was that of

    the paternalistic white nativist. Less openly, he was racially

    prejudiced. He shrugged off the miseries of black Americans,

    preferring to claim they were outside his jurisdiction. "I'm not going

    to send the FBI in," a Justice Department official recalled him saying

    testily, "every time some n woman says she's been raped." FBI

    agents paid more attention to investigating black militants than

    pursuing the Ku Klux Klan.

    In the 60s, Hoover went to extreme lengths to establish that Martin

    Luther King and his movement were under Communist control. When

    surveillance established only that King was having sex with women

    other than his wife, FBI aides worked to "neutralise" him by slipping

    prurient information to the press. When the civil rights leader was

    awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, Hoover was enraged. When thousands

    mourned King's assassination, Hoover went to the races. He later tried

    to prevent King's birthday being declared a national holiday.

    All this took place against a personal background of which few are

    today aware – a rumour that Hoover himself had black ancestry. Early

    photographs do show him looking somewhat negroid, with noticeably wiry

    hair. Gossip along those lines was rife in Washington and – true or

    not – Hoover must have been aware of it. Did anxiety on that front

    shape the way he behaved towards blacks – just as he lashed out at

    homosexuals while struggling with his own homosexuality?

    Research into the sex angle, meanwhile, may explain why – at the very

    time in US history that organised crime was on the rise and could have

    been effectively countered – Hoover failed to act. The man who had

    found fame for hunting down the bank robbers and bandits of the 30s

    let the Mafia flourish.

    It seemed at first, before the Second World War, that Hoover would

    clamp down on the mob. Then, abruptly, he turned off the pressure. In

    the 50s, he actively obstructed the Kefauver Committee, which

    concluded there was indeed "a nationwide crime syndicate known as the

    Mafia". Not so, said Hoover. When a 1958 report by his own agents also

    said the Mafia was real, he dismissed it as "baloney". The FBI would

    take vigorous action only very belatedly, in the 1960s, under pressure

    from Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

    Former officials I interviewed, including three former attorney

    generals and several former assistant directors of the FBI, were at a

    loss to explain why Hoover refused to tackle the threat of organised

    crime. "Hoover's attitude," said Neil Welch, a senior former agent who

    eventually distinguished himself fighting the Mafia, "was so contrary

    to reality as to be a reason for great speculation."

    Hoover himself, it is now clear, had contacts with organised criminals

    or their associates in circumstances that made it possible – likely

    even – that they learned of his sexual proclivities. More than one top

    mobster claimed the outfit had a hold on Hoover. Meyer Lansky, the

    syndicate's co-founder, was said to have "pictures of Hoover in some

    kind of gay situation" and an associate quoted Lansky as claiming, "I

    fixed that sonofabitch." Carmine Lombardozzi, who was known as "the

    Italian Meyer Lansky", said: "J Edgar Hoover was in our pocket."

    Blackmail was the tactic that worked for Hoover, too, in his dealings

    with politicians. The title of my biography of him, Official and

    Confidential, derives from the name of a file group that was held in

    locked cabinets in Hoover's office. By an official count after his

    death, the Director held 883 files on senators and 722 on congressmen.

    Many documents were shredded after Hoover's death, but those that

    survive speak for themselves. An example is this 1959 report:

    Dear Mr Hoover,

    You may be interested in the following information… (NAME WITHHELD)

    she had spent the afternoon of 3 June 1959, with Senator (NAME

    WITHHELD) in his private office. She also said she had sexual

    intercourse with the senator during the afternoon "on the couch in the

    senator's office…"

    Sincerely yours,

    James H Gale, Special Agent in Charge

    Such reports, I learned, were used to bend politicians to Hoover's

    will. He might need their co-operation to procure funds, to gain

    political muscle, or to avert investigation of operations he preferred

    kept hidden. An aide to Senator Edward Long, the Democrat from

    Missouri, was to swear an affidavit describing what occurred when Long

    was planning hearings on the FBI – with a special focus on electronic

    eavesdropping. A senior Hoover aide came to call, and the conversation

    went as follows: "Senator, I think you ought to read this file that we

    have on you. You know we would never use it, because you're a friend

    of ours… We just thought you ought to know the type of stuff that

    might get around and might be harmful to you… They handed him the

    folder… Long read it for a few minutes. they went on their way.

    The next thing I knew we had orders to skip over the FBI inquiries."

    Hoover snooped not just on politicians but on officials high and low,

    on Supreme Court justices – at least 12 of them – even on presidents.

    He built files on writers, actors, on citizens across the spectrum who

    caught his malignant eye. Many feared what the Director might have

    found – whether he had compromising information on them or not.

    In life, Hoover denied time and again that there were such "secret

    dossiers". Acting Attorney General Laurence Silberman, the first

    person to peruse the secret files after Hoover's death in 1972,

    learned otherwise. "J Edgar Hoover," he told me, "was like a sewer

    that collected dirt. I now believe he was the worst public servant in

    our history."

    The Director more than got away with his excesses. He was showered

    with honours. Even today, in spite of the ugly truths that have

    surfaced since his death – an official probe found that on top of

    everything he had also been personally corrupt – the sign on the

    façade of FBI headquarters in Washington proclaims, in gold lettering,

    that it is the "J EDGAR HOOVER BUILDING".

    "American society", mused Dr Lief, the psychiatrist who thinks the

    facts indicate Hoover would have made a perfect high-level Nazi, "has

    a strangely polarised attitude towards its heroes. On the one hand

    people love to find the idol has clay feet, to find the flaw in the

    famous man. On the other, they are reluctant to take the hero off his

    pedestal. This is a curious contradiction in our society, and

    sometimes a dangerous one."

    Anthony Summers is the author of eight non-fiction books; the most

    recent is The Eleventh Day, on 9/11. A new edition of Official and

    Confidential: The Secret Life of J Edgar Hoover, is published this

    month (Ebury, £8.99). The movie J Edgar is out on 20 January

    Best Regards in Research,

    ++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

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    Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

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    Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

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  11. This item appears to be sourced from Wim D. and/or Scott K.

    Opinions solicited for this:

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    Good Day Jim.... That is, most definitely, not LEE H. OSWALD....

    the grew-up-fatherless,

    "I-Led-Three-Lives"-anti-Communist (Right wing)-TV-show-devoted,

    "Civil-Air-Patrol" (Right wing)-member,

    FERRIE (Right wing)-acquaintance,

    "Cold-War"-anti-Communist (Right wing)-volunteer-ex-U.S. Marine-marksman,

    anti-Communists-Russia (Left wing)-and-anti-Communists-China (Left wing)-U-2-jet-surveillances-programs (Right wing)-U.S.-Top-Secret-clearance-granted,

    U.S.-Marine-"Oswaldovich"-seemingly-pro-Communist-pro-Marxist-sympathizer (Left wing)

    Communist-Russia (Left wing)-language-learning,

    Communist-Russia (Left wing)-temporary-defector,

    Russian-marrying,

    alleged-informant-or-low-level-U.S.-government-agent,

    anti-Communist (Right wing)-anti-Castro-posing,

    pro-Communist (Left wing)-pro-Castro-posing,

    pro-JFK (Left wing),

    DeMOHRENSCHILDT (Left wing)-friend,

    General-WALKER (Right wing)-alleged-shooting-at,

    October-1963-Depository-hiree,

    un-confirmed-whereabouts-on-11-22-63 at 12:29:44 PM CST,

    warrenatti-apologists-alleged-"lone-nut"-"snipers-lair"-shooting 3 shots with last 2 bunched,

    warrenatti-apologists-alleged-"lone-nut"-"snipers-lair"-killer-of-JFK (Left wing),

    HSCA-apologists-alleged-"snipers-lair"-"lone-nut"-with-grassy-knoll-assassin's-help-killer-of-JFK (Left wing),

    warrenatti-and-HSCA-apologists-alleged-"lone-nut"-killer-of-TIPPIT,

    McDONALD-attempted-shooter,

    warrenatti-apologists-killed-in-Dallas-police-custody by the many-Mafioso's-connected JACK RUBY (Left wing),

    HSCA-apologists-killed-in-Dallas-police-custody-with-Dallas-police-help by the many-Mafioso's-connected JACK RUBY (Left wing),

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

    Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence,

    Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html

    Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos,

    Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Still Hidden

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    Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif

    Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film

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  12. Good Day.... FYI....

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    Pallbearer for Kennedy to speak in Salisbury

    PHOTO

    James Felder, right, carries the casket of John F. Kennedy.

    SALISBURY — When he thinks back to the night of Nov. 22, 1963,

    James L. Felder sees Jacqueline Kennedy getting off Air Force One

    at Andrews Air Force Base still wearing the blood-stained dress

    from her husband's assassination in Dallas.

    Early the next morning, back at the White House, Felder watches

    the widow cutting a piece of her husband's hair as a keepsake

    before the casket's lid is closed again.

    Or Felder is standing over the slain president's gravesite, taking

    the folded American flag, checking it to make sure no red is

    showing and solemnly passing it on.

    These images have stayed with Felder, an Army sergeant who

    headed the casket team (pallbearers) for President John F. Kennedy.

    Felder stood close by as the president's body, embalmed and

    restored by a Washington mortician after an autopsy, was moved

    from a table at Bethesda Naval Hospital into a mahogany casket.

    He guarded the casket and carried it with seven other men into the

    White House, up and down the Capitol steps, and in and out of St.

    Matthew's Cathedral.

    He marched beside the caisson bearing the casket to Arlington

    National Cemetery, where his team took Kennedy to his grave.

    PHOTO

    James Felder checks the flag for red at the funeral for John F. Kennedy.

    PHOTO

    (JAMES LEROY FELDER sometime after his service, wearing a business suit)

    Wherever he goes, even 48 years after the assassination, Felder

    still answers questions about his duties during those four dark

    days in November 1963, from JFK's killing in the Dallas motorcade to

    his burial three days later in Arlington.

    "I never boasted about it (but) I kept getting these questions of,

    'How were you selected?' " says Felder, now 72 and living in

    Columbia, S.C.

    After his two years in the Army, Felder became an attorney and a

    strong figure in civil rights and voter education activities, forging

    friendships with men such as Vernon Jordan and the Rev. Jesse

    Jackson. He settled in Columbia, S.C., served briefly as a state

    legislator and retired several years ago as chairman of the

    Department of Business and Economics at Allen University.

    Today, Felder has come full circle and is president and chief

    executive officer of the S.C. Voter Education Project. He will be the

    speaker at Friday's Salisbury-Rowan NAACP Harvest Banquet,

    where the focus of his talk will be four historical leaders of the civil

    rights movement.

    His role as a pallbearer for President Kennedy is a lesson in how

    circumstances — so random at the time — conspire to put a person

    in an unexpected spot, such as on the lead left handle of a slain

    president's casket.

    A native of Sumter, S.C., Felder attended Clark College in Atlanta

    where he was the football team's quarterback and president of the

    Student Government Association. He participated in civil rights

    protests and sit-ins, spending time in Atlanta jails and courtrooms

    as a result.

    Graduating from Clark in 1961, Felder hoped to enter Officers

    Training School for the Air Force in March 1962 — the first available

    opening — but the Army drafted him before that could happen.

    He went "kicking and screaming" — his words — to basic training at

    Fort Jackson, S.C., and eventually was one of 10 men from the

    base chosen to try out for the Army Honor Guard stationed at Fort

    Myer, Va., near Washington.

    He survived a tough, two-week elimination process and was one of

    only two from Fort Jackson to make the Honor Guard, part of

    Company E of the Third Infantry. Nicknamed the Old Guard, because

    it is the oldest military unit on active duty in the country, the

    company is charged with defending the nation's capital in case of

    attack.

    All the men are infantry trained and combat ready. Otherwise, they

    conduct ceremonial duties in and around Washington, including

    burials at Arlington National Cemetery and the guarding of the

    Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

    Felder served with the second platoon — casket bearers for funeral

    services. Over 19 months, he participated in more than 1,000

    funerals at Arlington.

    During Kennedy's inaugural parade in 1961, the new president

    noticed there were no black soldiers in the Army Honor Guard, and

    he sent a verbal order that men of color should be added to the

    unit.

    When Felder joined the Honor Guard in 1962, he was only the 10th

    African American to be part of the company, which had some 200

    soldiers.

    As a college student, Felder had campaigned for Kennedy's

    election. As a soldier, he first stood near him as part of the Honor

    Guard greeting a foreign dignitary at Washington's National Airport

    and later on the White House's South Lawn.

    As he rose in seniority, Felder sometimes served as "presidential

    orderly," whose main duties involved running short errands for

    Kennedy or holding his umbrella in the rain. Felder says he and the

    president sometimes indulged in small talk while they waited for

    the next thing to happen.

    Felder describes himself as a "short-timer" by Nov. 22, 1963, the

    day President Kennedy was killed. He had only 57 days left in the

    Army, and most of those days he planned to eat up with leave.

    Interestingly, about a month before the assassination, Felder

    belonged to a specially assembled honor guard — representing

    each branch of the military — that was preparing for the expected

    death of former President Herbert Hoover.

    But the unit quit its rehearsals when Hoover's health improved,

    never guessing a similar honor guard would be needed soon for

    Kennedy.

    Two weeks before the assassination, the senior ranking soldier of

    the casket-bearing platoon left the company, making young Felder

    the ranking sergeant.

    Military protocol called on the Army to head the special honor guard

    for Kennedy, and because Felder had just become the ranking

    sergeant, it was up to him to lead the casket team.

    "If Kennedy had been assassinated two weeks earlier, I would not

    have been in that position," Felder says.

    Felder was taking a leave day Nov. 22, 1963, and went to a job

    interview at the Department of Interior. He and his wife, working at

    the Federal Power Commission, then planned to leave for

    Thanksgiving vacation in Sumter.

    The assassination canceled Felder's leave. His casket team met Air

    Force One at Andrews Air Force Base, then followed the body to

    Bethesda Naval Hospital, where the autopsy was performed.

    Felder and his men provided security at the hospital morgue, where

    he had to bodily throw out two intrusive photographers and keep

    reporters at bay.

    A new casket arrived with the funeral home attendants who

    embalmed the body and put Kennedy back together again. Felder

    and his men rolled the casket down the hospital corridor into a

    waiting Navy ambulance about 3:45 a.m. Nov. 23, and the body

    arrived at the White House by 4:30 a.m.

    In the East Room, Jacqueline Kennedy, with Sargent Shriver and

    Robert F. Kennedy by her side, opened the casket to view the body

    of her husband and to retrieve a lock of his hair.

    Felder says he can swear to this day that the president's body was

    in the casket, despite many rumors to the contrary at the time.

    Felder personally stayed on watch at the East Room until 1 p.m.

    that Saturday, when he was relieved and able to catch a two-hour

    nap in the White House's theater.

    At first the casket team consisted of six men — two from the Army

    and one each from the Marines, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard.

    Because of the half-ton weight of the new casket, Felder saw that

    two more men (from the Navy and Marines) were added.

    Worried about navigating the 36 Capitol steps leading into the

    Rotunda Sunday morning, Nov. 24, the team practiced for hours on

    the Arlington Cemetery steps leading to the Tomb of the Unknown

    Soldier.

    A couple of soldiers sat on top of the dummy casket to simulate the

    weight of the president's mahogany version.

    Felder used silent commands such as nods and winks to guide his

    casket team, and he instructed these pallbearers to saturate their

    white gloves with water for better two-handed grips.

    On the day of the funeral, the casket team marched 3 miles next to

    the caisson — the same one that bore President Franklin D.

    Roosevelt's body in Washington 18 years earlier.

    A million people stood along the route between the cathedral and

    the cemetery. An additional 75 million watched on television. At

    Arlington, Felder's team called on all of its reserve strength for

    carrying the casket up the hill to the gravesite.

    At the end of Taps, Felder tugged on the flag to initiate its folding.

    His final check for red led to the flag's delivery to Jacqueline

    Kennedy, who would be buried beside the president many years

    later.

    Not long after Felder had returned from the Thanksgiving holiday,

    his 28-year-old company commander died unexpectedly, and Felder

    had to again lead a special honor guard.

    Spent emotionally, he made it his last funeral at Arlington.

    It took 30 years, but Felder transferred his memories from 1963

    into a book titled, "I Buried John F. Kennedy." He says he did it for

    his children and grandchildren and for history's sake.

    By now, he guesses that he has given hundreds of talks to civic

    clubs, churches and veterans groups about those dark days.

    Not too long ago, Arlington National Cemetery remodeled its

    visitors center. It includes a huge mural showing Felder carrying

    JFK's casket.

    "That really touched me," he says, "and my grandchildren were

    there to see it."

    Contact Mark Wineka at 704-797-4263, or

    mwineka@salisburypost.com. Felder will have copies of his book

    available for sale at the NAACP Harvest Banquet Friday night at the

    Holiday Inn.

    (END QUOTE)

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

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  13. Good Day.... FYI.... From the Mineola, TX "Mineola Monitor" news.com (my notes follow the article)....

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    Breakfast with JACK RUBY

    CURRENT PHOTO of Jerry Coley, captioned, "With a copy of The

    Warren Report and other related memorabilia spread before him,

    Jerry Coley, remembers having breakfast with Jack Ruby[sp] and

    other events on Nov. 22, 1963."

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    "People say there were three shots," he said, "but you couldn't

    tell it by me." All he remembers is the noise and "people running

    everywhere."

    Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:14 pm

    By GARY EDWARDS The Monitor Staff | 0 comments

    There was a time in the newspaper business that being a journalist

    and having a college degree weren't necessarily seen as being

    compatible. In fact, for most in the business, the school of "hard

    knocks" was valued well beyond a degree from Yale, Harvard or

    any other school.

    It didn't seem to matter what department one worked in.

    Journalism was a disease to be coveted by writers, photographers

    and advertising sales people. Simply being able to say one "worked

    for the paper," was enough.

    It gave one access to events that others only dream of hearing

    about.

    None of that was lost on a young Jerry Coley.

    By 1963 Coley had spent a two-year stint in the Army and had

    worked at the the Dallas Morning News for several years.

    He'd figured out that mail room pay wasn't as good as the $40 a

    week the advertising folks were making and he sought

    improvement in his life style.

    Along the way to "financial gain" he'd meet a large number of

    interesting people, perhaps none more so than a self-described

    former Chicago mafia enforcer by the name of Jack Ruby.

    It was Thursday in Dallas, Nov. 21, 1963 and Coley said the staff at

    the Morning News was excited about the coming visit by President

    John F. Kennedy.

    For the ownership and some of the management of the newspaper

    it was a huge occasion, for they were Catholic and Kennedy was

    the first Catholic president.

    Coley remembers the political temperature of the city as

    conservative, with some tension related to the conservative views

    of retired two-star Army General Edwin Walker, but there was

    nothing that would prepare anyone for what happened the

    following day.

    Friday morning Coley was at work when Ruby came by on what

    was more or less a routine trip to the paper to pay his advertising

    bill for the strip club he operated in Dallas. Ruby, Coley and others

    had breakfast together that Friday in the newspaper cafeteria and

    Ruby, who often stayed to make small talk, did so again Coley said.

    Ruby would brag about his "girls" and fish money rolled up and

    secured by rubberbands from his pocket.

    He talked about his days in Chicago and his connection to the mob

    and in general, Coley said, Ruby simply hung around the paper.

    As Coley recounts how Nov. 22 unfolded, he sits behind a kitchen

    counter in what has been his Wood County home since he retired

    in 1996. There are a number of magazine articles spread before

    him, including diagrams of where the parade route traveled, where

    Coley was standing and more.

    Well before the president would ride through Dallas, Coley had

    already arranged his sales schedule so he'd be downtown to watch

    the passage of the caravan and thus he was within yards of Dealey

    Plaza as the presidential vehicles passed by, turning right and then

    back to the left.

    Coley had noticed that Ruby was still at the paper as noon

    approached and he would think back later and wonder "if he loved

    the President so much why couldn't he walk three blocks to watch

    him" pass by in the motorcade.

    As the group of vehicles turned the School Book Depository, Coley

    remembers hearing a "noise."

    "People say there were three shots," he said, "but you couldn't tell

    it by me." All he remembers is the noise and "people running

    everywhere."

    He rapidly worked his way in the direction of the depository and

    was stopped by a "county mountie with a shotgun" who told him to

    "get the hell out of here."

    Which didn't exactly mean Coley left the area.

    He remembers people crying and he remembers something else.

    Several feet away from the street, above the well-documented

    grassy knoll, he found a significant amount of blood.

    He ran back to the newspaper, finding Ruby still in the office, on a

    phone and crying.

    It was a day or so later when Coley found an advertising

    photographer, Jim Hood, and ultimately he led Hood back to the

    scene of the blood, where he said Hood photographed it.

    There were personal moments he'll not likely forget.

    They included death threats by telephone calls to his wife saying

    Coley needed to "shut your mouth" or they were going to kill

    Coley's family.

    Then there is the matter of the blood that Coley asked Hood to

    photograph.

    Several days had gone by and Coley had returned to work when

    two men in dark suits appeared at the newspaper. They "flashed

    green plastic cards" that appeared to Coley as though they were

    FBI agents.

    They were interested to hear about the breakfast with Ruby and

    then near what appeared to be the end of the interview, Coley

    said he asked the men if they knew about the blood on the steps.

    There was some discussion between the two visitors off to the side

    and following that, the men confiscated the film and the only print

    Hood had an opportunity make and then one of the men said to

    the two newspaper employees, "boys this never happened if you

    know what I mean."

    The following day, Coley said, he went back to the spot where he'd

    seen the blood and the area was spotless, as though it had "been

    chemically cleaned, there was nothing there," he said."We didn't

    talk about this for 13 years," Coley said.

    For a variety of reasons it took until sometime around 1980 before

    Coley began to talk about the blood.

    By then the others familiar with the situation were no longer in any

    danger of potential retribution and Coley was beginning to feel

    comfortable with talking about it.

    He was interviewed for a TV program, "Unsolved Mysteries" and

    while the interviewers were quite interested in talking about the

    blood, it was not used in the finished product.

    To his knowledge there has never been any discussion about that

    blood by anyone, including those charged with investigating the

    assassination. He doesn't know why.

    Was Ruby used by someone else to kill Lee Harvey Oswald? Coley

    doesn't know the answer but he does have a nagging question to

    this day.

    Why didn't Ruby walk those few steps to watch the president's

    motorcade? If he loved the president as much as he professed,

    why wouldn't he want to see him in person?

    As for the newspaper family at the Morning News, Coley said, "It

    took a couple of years before the paper got over the shooting."

    Dallas, he said, was seen as "the city of hate," which he saw as a

    "stigma not deserved."

    Today, the 78-year-old Coley lives with his wife Bonnie and son

    Scott, just East of Mineola, far from the life he knew at the

    newspaper.

    He's comfortable speaking about the unspeakable and from time to

    time he shares his memories with civic clubs and church groups.

    But always there will be unanswered questions relating to that

    November day in 1963.

    His photographer friend died in the next year or two after the

    president's death in what Coley describes as questionable

    circumstances in a plane crash.

    He has other questions that he knows will never be answered to

    his satisfaction, or that of others... not in his lifetime at least.

    (END QUOTE)

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

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    http://www.inforum.c...504/group/News/

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    Published October 09, 2011, 11:30 PM

    Memories of JFK assassination haunt former Secret

    Service agent and North Dakota native (with audio)

    MOORHEAD - Nov. 22, 1963, is on Clint Hill's mind every day. The

    former Secret Service agent assigned to protect Jackie Kennedy the

    day President John F. Kennedy was assassinated is still haunted

    with guilt nearly 50 years later.

    By: Amy Dalrymple, INFORUM

    MOORHEAD - Nov. 22, 1963, is on Clint Hill's mind every day.

    The former Secret Service agent assigned to protect Jackie

    Kennedy the day President John F. Kennedy was assassinated is

    still haunted with guilt nearly 50 years later.

    The Washburn, N.D., native and Concordia College graduate was

    on the running board of the car behind the presidential limousine in

    Dallas. He heard the first shot and jumped onto the presidential

    vehicle in an attempt to shield the Kennedys from gunshots. Hill

    made it just as the first lady was reaching for the top of Kennedy's

    scalp.

    He received recognition for "extraordinary courage and heroic effort

    in the face of maximum danger."

    But Hill, who battled depression and alcoholism for years as a

    result of that day, still wonders if he could have done more.

    "I still have a sense of responsibility and a guilt feeling I should

    have been able to do more, because I was the only one who had

    that chance," Hill said in an interview last week with The Forum.

    Hill, who served five presidents during his time with the Secret

    Service, will return to Concordia this week to accept an Alumni

    Achievement Award.

    "I tried to tell them that I didn't think I was worthy of the honor,

    but they insisted," said the 79-year-old, who now lives in the

    Washington, D.C., area.

    Hill also will give a public talk on Wednesday night, along with Lisa

    McCubbin, co-author of "The Kennedy Detail," which gives the

    Secret Service agents' account of the assassination.

    North Dakota native

    Hill was born in 1932 in Larimore, N.D., and was adopted as a baby

    by Chris and Jennie Hill of Washburn.

    Hill graduated from high school in Washburn and attended

    Concordia, where he majored in history and physical education and

    excelled at football and baseball.

    After Hill graduated from Concordia in 1954, he served in the U.S.

    Army as an intelligence agent.

    Hill's Secret Service career began in 1958.

    When Kennedy was elected, Hill anticipated he would be assigned

    to protect the president because he had been assigned to

    President Dwight Eisenhower.

    He was shocked to learn that he'd instead be protecting the first

    lady.

    "I was very upset about it," Hill said. "I didn't really want that

    assignment."

    But it turned out to be the best job in the Secret Service at the

    time, Hill said.

    Jackie Kennedy and Hill built up a trust and became friends, though

    she always called him Mr. Hill, and he always called her Mrs.

    Kennedy.

    "We shared secrets, and we got to know each other very well," Hill

    said.

    That historic day in Dallas was unusual because the first lady was

    campaigning with Kennedy, something she often shied away from

    doing.

    During the motorcade, Hill was positioned behind Jackie Kennedy

    on the follow-up car and was scanning people taking photos from a

    grassy area off to the left.

    Then he heard an explosive noise over his right shoulder, and his

    eyes scanned past the presidential vehicle.

    "I saw the president grab at his throat and kind of move to his left.

    I knew something had happened," Hill said.

    "I jumped from the follow-up car and ran toward the presidential

    vehicle," he said. "My attempt was to get on the back of the

    presidential car and place my body above the president and Mrs.

    Kennedy so that I would shield them from anything that was a

    possibility of happening.

    "There was a second shot, apparently, but I didn't hear it because I

    was running.

    (MY INSERTION....HILL first started to jump from the SS followup vehicle

    at Z-290 to 308, then, he was running on Elm Street)

    "Then the third shot happened just as I was approaching the

    presidential vehicle. I slipped, had to regain my steps, got up on

    the car. The president had been hit in the upper right rear of his

    head with that third shot.

    "There were blood and brain matter and bone fragments

    throughout the entire area, including myself. He slumped to his left.

    Mrs. Kennedy came up from her seat onto the trunk of the car

    trying to grab some of the material that came off his head. … I

    grabbed her and put her back into her seat. When I did that, the

    president's body fell into her lap.

    "The right side of his face was up, and I could see his eyes were

    fixed. There was a hole in the upper right rear of his head. It

    appeared to me that he was dead."

    Hill gave a thumbs-down to the follow-up car, and agents yelled to

    the lead driver to go to Parkland Hospital. Hill continued lying on

    the back of the car to shield the Kennedys as the car sped 80 mph

    to the hospital.

    'Downward spiral'

    After the assassination, Hill continued to be assigned to the first

    lady and the children until the election.

    He was then assigned to President Lyndon Johnson and served

    him during the tumultuous time that included the assassinations of

    Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert Kennedy.

    Hill also protected Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

    In 1970, a promotion had Hill working an administrative desk job,

    and for the first time since the assassination, he had time to think.

    That day in Dallas was never far from his mind.

    "I gradually deteriorated emotionally, and that affected my physical

    well-being," Hill said.

    In 1975, doctors said he wasn't fit for the Secret Service, and he

    retired at age 43.

    Hill returned to North Dakota and worked on his sister's farm for

    about six weeks, "trying to get everything out."

    That year, he also spoke about the assassination for the first time

    in a famous interview with Mike Wallace of "60 Minutes." Prior to

    that, Hill hadn't talked about that day with anyone, not even his

    family.

    Hill's emotional state only worsened in his retirement.

    "By 1976, I was once again in a downward spiral, and that lasted

    until 1982," Hill said. "I had a great big bottle of scotch and a carton

    of cigarettes, and I laid on a couch in my very dark basement."

    Then in 1982, a doctor told Hill he either had to change or die.

    "I decided I wanted to live," Hill said.

    Without any help, Hill quit drinking and did some security work for

    Chrysler, Mesa Petroleum and Billy Graham during the 1980s.

    Decades after the assassination, Hill was still not talking about that

    day. He declined to be interviewed in 2003 for the 40th anniversary

    of the event.

    "I didn't want to talk about any of this type of thing and never did,"

    Hill said. "We as agents never talked about the assassination

    among ourselves. I never discussed it with any member of my

    family."

    Then fellow Secret Service agent Gerald Blaine and journalist Lisa

    McCubbin began working on the book "The Kennedy Detail."

    Hill said McCubbin convinced him that it would benefit history if he

    revealed details of that day from his perspective.

    Contributing to the book proved to be beneficial for Hill, and he's

    now talking more openly about that day for the first time, nearly 50

    years later.

    Hill and McCubbin also are collaborating on a book, "Mrs. Kennedy

    and Me," that will be published in the spring of 2012.

    In 1990, Hill did something he wishes he would have done earlier:

    He returned to Dallas and walked Dealey Plaza and looked out the

    window of the sixth floor.

    "I came to the conclusion that on that particular day, because of

    everything involved, the weather, the angle of the building, the way

    the street was configured and the way the motorcade was running

    at the time that I did everything I could, and I really couldn't have

    done any more than that," Hill said.

    Readers can reach Forum reporter Amy Dalrymple at (701) 241-5590

    If you go

    What: Speech by former Secret Service agent Clint Hill and Lisa

    McCubbin, co-author of "The Kennedy Detail"

    When: 7 p.m. Wednesday

    Where: Concordia Knutson Campus Center Centrum

    Info: The event is free and open to the public. A Q&A session and

    book signing will follow.[/font style]

    (END QUOTE)

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

    Donald Roberdeau

    U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

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  15. Good Day All.... FYI, followed by some previous articles.... Does anyone have any recent updates with respect to the dictabelt work by Dr. Carl Haber and Dr. Vitaliy Fadeyev?

    http://www.washingto...0ts7K_blog.html

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    Retired National Archives official charged with stealing sound recordings

    By Lisa Rein

    The former chief of the National Archives' audio-visual holdings has been charged with stealing nearly a 1,000 sound recordings over a decade.

    Tuesday's charges against Leslie Charles Waffen come a year after federal agents raided his home, seizing dozens of boxes from his Rockville basement.

    The U.S. Attorney's office in Greenbelt charged the 40-year Archives official with theft of federal property, which carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison and a possible fine. Waffen had retired from the Archives shortly before last year's raid.

    Charging documents say agents seized 955 "sound recording items"during the raid, although the items are not specified.

    Waffen's attorney, Michael Fayad, said he was "not in a position" to comment on the charges.

    The audiovisual holdings contain more than 90,000 film, sound and video recordings made by government agencies and private sources. Many are presidential recordings, kept at presidential libraries and museums. Many more are kept at the Archives' facility in College Park.

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    Federal agents raid home of recently retired National Archives official

    By Lisa Rein and Spencer S. Hsu Washington Post Staff Writers

    Friday, October 29, 2010; 8:16 PM

    Federal agents raided the home of a former official at the National Archives this week and seized up to 20 boxes from his Rockville basement, weeks after his retirement from the government's record-keeping agency.

    Leslie Waffen, 65, was chief of the Archives' audiovisual holdings, which contain more than 90,000 film, sound and video recordings made by government agencies and private sources. Agents with the U.S. Marshals Service and the Archives' inspector general executed search warrants a day before government watchdogs criticized the agency in two reports Wednesday for failing to properly safeguard sensitive information.

    U.S. Marshals spokesman David Ablondi said his agency, Montgomery County police and Archives investigators arrived in the 500 block of Saddle Ridge Lane at 7:45 a.m. They appeared to wake Waffen and his wife, said a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation. The Archives agents arrived with a moving truck and a list of items they were searching for. Warren directed them to his basement, where they identified and removed "10 to 20 boxes," a law enforcement official said. The agents loaded the truck and left after about 45 minutes.

    Ablondi and Archives officials declined to say what was in the boxes.

    David S. Ferriero, who took over as chief archivist at the National Archives and Records Administration last year, acknowledged the raid in a statement to employees Thursday and commended the inspector general's office for "their commitment to ensuring the restoration of stolen property back to the National Archives.

    "I will not tolerate any violation of the law that protects both records and property that belongs to the U.S. government and the American people," Ferriero wrote. He noted that his staff is improving training, requiring new policies and buying new equipment "to ensure that our holdings are safe."

    The government's sound archives date to 1896. A 2004 New York Times article described the efforts of Waffen's team to preserve the only known audio recording of the John F. Kennedy assassination. His department also had custody of the Zapruder film, the famous 8mm color home video of the assassination.

    Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), who has tracked Archives security concerns for years, said in a statement: "There's a lot of work to be done because these problems have needed correction for years. I hope there will be a plan to get the organization back on track quickly."

    Auditors with the Government Accountability Office said the agency is leaving itself open to hackers as it preserves records electronically. Auditors found the agency did not protect its computer networks with strong firewalls, used weak passwords and failed to encrypt sensitive information.

    The report also highlighted a "large and persistent" backlog of paper and media records that need to be preserved.

    Sen. Thomas E. Carper (D-Del.), who also follows security issues at the Archives, said the findings alarmed him.

    "The items in jeopardy are more than just pieces of paper, collectibles or electronic files - they are priceless links that connect us to our nation's history and help tell the story of America," Carper said in a statement. "So I am sure it is unsettling to the American people - as it is to me - that the monumental task of preserving these valuable artifacts is not always being performed to the standards we all should expect."

    Lawmakers criticized the agency last year after the disappearance of a hard drive with sensitive data from the Clinton administration. The drive contained national security information, more than 100,000 Social Security numbers, contact information for Clinton administration officials, Secret Service and White House operating procedures, event logs, social gathering logs and political records.

    reinl@washpost.com hsus@washpost.com

    Staff writers Ed O'Keefe and Dan Morse and staff researcher Alice Crites contributed to this report.

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    The remastermind: Dictaphone expert helps refine JFK recording

    By Steve Lathrop

    Albany Democrat-Herald

    It has been 45 years since Bill McWilliams first became immersed in the continuing investigation of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    "I was right in the middle of it all," he says.

    He still is, in his own way.

    From his home in North Albany, McWilliams works with engineers at the Lawrence Livermore National Loboratory in California, trying to determine the exact number of shots fired in Dallas, Texas on Nov. 22, 1963.

    Widely considered an expert Dictaphone technician, McWilliams was recruited by researchers who are using advanced techniques in sound reproduction to provide them with first-hand information on the machine and the assassination as they search for additional evidence.

    It was McWilliams who serviced the now-famous Dictabelt #10 at the Dallas police station the day of the assassination. It is the machine that recorded events as they crackled forth from a motorcycle policeman's open microphone.

    "I heard it all as it happened," McWilliams says.

    The research, which has been going on since 2005, was authorized by Leslie Waffin [sp] of the National Archives, who released the machine to the lab to apply the latest techniques in sound reproduction.

    Dr. Carl Haber and Dr. Vitaliy Fadeyev have led the research using a digital optical camera called a Smartscope to scan the grooves of the belt and create a digital image of sound patterns.

    It is fed into computers programmed to clean up the sound removing excess noise, static and voices.

    "The sound is reproduced without the stylus riding on the grooves," said McWilliams. "And the computer can eliminate any unnecessary noise."

    Already involved for more than a year, McWilliams supplies equipment, specifications and mechanical data for the dictabelt recordings.

    "It's a slow process. They are still working on it," he said. "Ultimately they are trying to find out if there were more shots fired."

    The day of the assassination, McWilliams not only heard the event, he witnessed the transfer of the mortally wounded president from the ambulance to the hospital, which was located directly behind the Dallas Police Station.

    "I believe there were more shots fired," he says. "Maybe this will answer that question."

    In addition to his work on the assassination investigation, McWilliams never is far from a Dictaphone, which were in wide use between the late 19th- and early 20th century. Dictabelts that had grooves cut into a plastic belt, rather than onto a wax cylinder, were introduced in 1947. Then the tape recorder gained popularity, and Dictaphones fell out of favor.

    McWilliams may be the world's largest provider and repairer of vintage machines. His shelves are lined with wax cylinders, vacuum tubes, cassettes and magnetic tape analog recording and dictating equipment — technological relics that predated tape recorders and cell phones.

    "He's known all over the country," said his wife Dorothy.

    Working from a large shop behind his home, McWilliams and his son Doak have created a website and also sell parts on eBay.

    "I don't deal much with the computers," he admits. "I don't really trust them." He doesn't ignore them, either; he simply prefers being able to use his hands. His entire inventory has been indexed by hand to back up the computer log.

    McWilliams spent 33 years with Dictaphone after his graduation from Texas Institute of Technology. He eventually becoming a regional service director.

    The Korean War veteran retired in 1989 and moved to Albany in 2000.

    He now owns about 200 machines dating back to 1889, a year after Dictaphone — then Columbia Graphophone — was created.

    "I've always collected," he says. "Some are pretty unique."

    His largest is 6 feet tall, and 300 pounds and the smallest is a hand-held device that fits into a shirt pocket. Also included is a 1953 model that was the world's first audio machine to announce the time.

    "There are probably no more than two or three of them in the world," he said.

    The collection evolved into repair work, parts sales and consultation. It also has star quality.

    "I get a lot of calls to rent or loan machines to movie prop companies," he said.

    The Kevin Costner movie "Thirteen Days" and the PBS series "Meaning of Grace" both used vintage Dictaphones from McWilliams' inventory.

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    The sound of 40-year-old gunfire in Dealey Plaza Applying today's technology to fragile recording of JFK assassination

    12:10 PM CDT on Saturday, July 31, 2004

    By KATHARINE GOODLOE / The Dallas Morning News

    WASHINGTON – It could be the ultimate artifact for historians and conspiracy theorists alike: the only sound recording from the moment of John F. Kennedy's assassination, made by a Dallas police motorcycle radio.

    Many scholars believe it can answer a mystery from Nov. 22, 1963: three shots or four?

    Spurred last year by the 40th anniversary of the assassination, researchers at the National Archives are trying to preserve and copy the recording, which is too fragile to be played again and has never been authentically copied. It could, they say, offer the only hard evidence of how many bullets were fired that day.

    Researchers have long studied inferior copies of the recording. Some say it shows three shots were fired at Kennedy's motorcade and concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone; others say it shows four shots were fired and concluded Oswald was aided by a second gunman.

    So as the Archives aims to copy the recording, they're also reviving the debate surrounding it.

    "There is not closure on this issue," said Gary Mack, curator of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza. An authentic copy of the recordings, he said, "might be able to resolve part of the Kennedy assassination, one way or the other."

    The controversy surrounding the assassination, though, has also surrounded the recording. The Dallas Police Department created the original recordings inadvertently. A radio stuck in the "on" position relayed sounds of the killing to headquarters, where they were etched onto dictation belts. But they are alternately noisy and inaudible, so years passed before anyone examined them for echoes of gunfire.

    They lay untapped during the Warren Commission investigation, the first government inquiry into Kennedy's assassination. That panel concluded Oswald was the lone gunman, firing three shots at the motorcade.

    Controversy about the dictation belts' contents was revived during the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation, and the belts became the linchpin of their 1979 report. The recording, the committee said, indicates four shots were fired – including one from the grassy knoll. Their conclusion that Oswald likely did not act alone set conspiracy circles ablaze.

    But some scholars point to the delay in finding the tapes as reason to question their authenticity. Others conducted studies on the recording's sound waves that both rejected and reaffirmed the House committee's findings. Even now, the debate continues.

    "The evidence remains controversial and probably inconclusive from the standpoint of history," said John Tunheim, a federal judge in Minneapolis who chaired the Assassination Records Review Board. "It really has gone back and forth."

    One step toward reconciling the debate, experts said, is producing an authentic copy of the recordings for use in future research.

    That's the goal of the National Archives, which received the set of five dictation belts from the Justice Department in 1990, as many of the assassination records were made public. But the keynote belt, which recorded the actual killing, was worn and split from use by Dallas police, the FBI, the Secret Service and other government inquiries.

    Too fragile to be played again, but too important to be ignored, the Archives simply stored the belt without copying it in the hopes future technology would enable them to reproduce the recording without harming the original. More than a decade later, that day is almost here.

    Although many of copies of the dictation belt exist – some are even available online – most are not well documented, and none is deemed authentic by the Archives. That designation matters because a bona fide copy would validate further research.

    "The question of what is authentic and what is not is debated every day by researchers," Mr. Tunheim said. "So when you make a copy, it's important to be done under perfect circumstances."

    The Archives revived a push for an authentic copy of the belt after a spate of calls from researchers near the 40th anniversary of the assassination in November. Most wanted an authentic copy of the main dictation belt, said Leslie Waffen, who oversees custody of the belt for the Archives.

    "We couldn't say to them that we had a true and actual copy of the belt," Mr. Waffen said. "We said we really ought to look into this further and see if there's anything available, technology-wise, for us."

    What they found is optical scanning, which digitally charts the grooves in the dictation belts and reproduces them on a data map. The end product would be a visual display, which Mr. Waffen said is likely to be more useful to researchers than an audio one.

    "You have to get beneath the noise to pick something out of there," he said. "We're hoping the optical scanning method will allow people to do that."

    The technique would also avoid further wear on the original belt – a key factor in the Archives mission to preserve its authenticity. The Archives hosted a forum this summer to discuss the method, but decided the technology is a year away from being feasible, Mr. Waffen said. No official estimate is available, but Mr. Waffen expects the procedure will cost less than $1,000.

    But will such a copy further research or merely fan existing conspiracy theories?

    Mr. Mack, who was one of the first people to believe the recordings included echoes of gunfire, said their continued study could yield three outcomes. It could confirm the Warren Commission's report, uphold the House committee's report, or do neither, he said.

    "Many people have tried to resolve which group of scientists is correct," he said. "The Dictabelt itself is a starting place."

    Whatever the research generates, scholars said it's unlikely to snuff out the conspiracy theories that have gripped Americans for the past four decades.

    "There's always been a swirling controversy with the Kennedy assassination, and there always will be," Mr. Waffen said. "But at least in this case we can provide a solid piece of material researchers can turn to."

    E-mail: kgoodloe at dallasnews.com

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  16. Good Day Michael ....

    Thank You very much.... I wanted to ask Mr. HERSHORN what (and/or who, etc)

    specifically caused him to want to, + then obtain his access to the Dal-Tex Building

    the same weekend of the attack + take a rifle up into it and capture his following

    photos from a Dal-Tex 7th-floor window

    (even though that very same attack weekend the lame-stream media and

    "investigating" "officials" were all flapping-their-gums about the warrenatti-

    apologists, supposed, "lone-nut" "snipers lair" located right next door)....

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    .... from my public file....

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    In one of Mr. HERSHORN's obituaries it mentioned that at the time of his

    death he was (unfortunately) self-afflicted with alcoholic-dementia, so he

    may or may not have remembered why and/or who specifically caused

    him to take a rifle up into the Dal-Tex the same attack weekend, so I will

    still contact his wife to learn what he shared privately and publicly.

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

  17. Good Day .... FYI....

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    Hoover's Secret Files

    The FBI director kept famous files on everything from Martin Luther

    King's sex life to never-before-reported secret meetings between RFK and

    Marilyn Monroe, as a new book reveals. An exclusive excerpt from Ronald

    Kessler's 'The Secrets of the FBI.'

    Aug 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

    Complex man that he was, J. Edgar Hoover left nothing to chance. The

    director shrewdly recognized that building what became known as the

    world's greatest law enforcement agency would not necessarily keep him

    in office. So after Hoover became director, he began to maintain a special

    Official and Confidential file in his office. The "secret files," as they

    became widely known, would guarantee that Hoover would remain

    director as long as he wished.

    Defenders of Hoover— a dwindling number of older former agents who

    still refer to him as "Mr. Hoover"—have claimed his Official and

    Confidential files were not used to blackmail members of Congress or

    presidents. They say Hoover kept the files with sensitive information

    about political leaders in his suite so that young file clerks would not

    peruse them and spread gossip. The files were no more secret than any

    other bureau files, Hoover supporters say.

    While the files may well have been kept in Hoover's office to protect them

    from curious clerks, it was also true that far more sensitive files

    containing top-secret information on pending espionage cases were kept

    in the central files. If Hoover truly was concerned about information

    getting out, he should have been more worried about the highly classified

    information in those files.

    Moreover, the Official and Confidential files were secret in the sense that

    Hoover never referred to them publicly, as he did the rest of the bureau's

    files. He distinguished them from other bureau files by calling them

    "confidential," denoting secrecy. But whether they were secret or not and

    where they were kept was irrelevant. What was important was how

    Hoover used the information from those files and from other bureau files.

    "The moment [Hoover] would get something on a senator," said William

    Sullivan, who became the number three official in the bureau under

    Hoover, "he'd send one of the errand boys up and advise the senator that

    'we're in the course of an investigation, and we by chance happened to

    come up with this data on your daughter. But we wanted you to know this.

    We realize you'd want to know it.' Well, Jesus, what does that tell the

    senator? From that time on, the senator's right in his pocket."

    Lawrence J. Heim, who was in the Crime Records Division, confirmed to

    me that the bureau sent agents to tell members of Congress that Hoover

    had picked up derogatory information on them.

    "He [Hoover] would send someone over on a very confidential basis,"

    Heim said. As an example, if the Metropolitan Police in Washington had

    picked up evidence of homosexuality, "he [Hoover] would have him say,

    'This activity is known by the Metropolitan Police Department and some of

    our informants, and it is in your best interests to know this.' But nobody

    has ever claimed to have been blackmailed. You can deduce what you

    want from that."

    Of course, the reason no one publicly claimed to have been blackmailed is

    that blackmail, by definition, entails collecting embarrassing information

    that people do not want public. But not everyone was intimidated.

    Roy L. Elson, the administrative assistant to Senator Carl T. Hayden, will

    never forget an encounter he had with Cartha "Deke" DeLoach, the FBI's

    liaison with Congress. For twenty years, Hayden headed the Senate Rules

    and Administration Committee and later the Senate Appropriations

    Committee, which had jurisdiction over the FBI's budget. He was one of

    the most powerful members of Congress. As Hayden, an Arizona

    Democrat, suffered hearing loss and some dementia in his later years,

    Elson became known as the "101st senator" because he made many of

    the senator's decisions for him.

    In the early 1960s, DeLoach wanted an additional appropriation for the

    new FBI headquarters building, which Congress approved in April 1962.

    "The senator supported the building," Elson said. "He always gave the

    bureau more money than they needed. This was a request for an

    additional appropriation. I had reservations about it. DeLoach was

    persistent."

    DeLoach "hinted" that he had "information that was unflattering and

    detrimental to my marital situation and that the senator might be

    disturbed," said Elson, who was then married to his second wife. "I was

    certainly vulnerable that way," Elson said. "There was more than one girl

    [he was seeing]. . . . The implication was there was information about my

    sex life. There was no doubt in my mind what he was talking about."

    Elson said to DeLoach: "Let's talk to him [the senator] about it. I think

    he's heard about everything there is to hear about me. Bring the photos if

    you have them." At that point, Elson said, "He started backing off. . . . He

    said, 'I'm only joking.' Bullxxxx," Elson said. "I interpreted it as attempted

    blackmail."

    Commenting on Elson's allegation, DeLoach says, "It never happened."

    Reading the Official and Confidential files that survived makes it clear

    they could have been gathered for no other purpose than blackmail. For

    example, on June 13, 1958, the head of the Washington field office

    informed Hoover that, prior to marrying a member of Congress, the

    member's wife had been "having an affair with a Negro [and] also at one

    time carried on an affair with a House Post Office employee." More

    recently, the report said, the congressman's wife "endeavored to have an

    affair with [an] Indonesian, who declined."

    In response to this tidbit, Hoover wrote back on June 25 that it was

    "certainly thoughtful of you to advise me of matters of current interest,

    and I am glad to have the benefit of this information."

    "This was a way of putting congressmen on notice that we had something

    on them and therefore they would be more disposed to meeting the

    bureau's needs and keeping Hoover in power," says John J. McDermott,

    who headed the Washington field office and eventually became deputy

    associate FBI director.

    Hoover let presidents know that he had dirt on them as well. For example,

    on March 22, 1962, Hoover had lunch with President Kennedy. Hoover told

    him that through bugs and wiretaps, the FBI had learned that Jack was

    having an affair with Judith Campbell Exner, a twenty five-year-old

    divorcée. Hoover informed the president that Exner was also having an

    affair with Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana. Because Hoover knew such

    tidbits, no president would fire him.

    As President Lyndon B. Johnson said, "I would rather have him [Hoover]

    inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

    Many of the confidential files were destroyed after Hoover's death. One

    such item that never came out previously was a teletype sent to

    headquarters from William Simon, who headed the Los Angeles field

    office, just after the August 5, 1962, death of Marilyn Monroe at her

    Brentwood, California home. According to DeLoach, who saw the teletype,

    it said that then Attorney General Robert Kennedy had borrowed Simon's

    personal car to see Monroe just before her death.

    Confirming this, Simon's son Greg says, "My father said Robert Kennedy

    would borrow his white Lincoln convertible. That's why we didn't have it on

    many weekends." Simon's daughter Stephanie Branon also confirmed that

    her father lent his car to Kennedy and remembered that the attorney

    general once left his Ray-Ban sunglasses in the glove compartment.

    As attorney general, Kennedy was entitled to be driven by an FBI security

    detail. The fact that he chose to use Simon's personal car is consistent

    with William Simon's report to headquarters that he lent his car to

    Kennedy for the purpose of clandestine meetings with Monroe. Whether

    his last meeting with her, possibly to break up with her, may have

    contributed to her suicide is legitimate speculation.

    While there is ample evidence that Hoover used the information in his files

    for blackmail, there was usually no need for it. Simply the perception that

    he had such information was enough to keep politicians in line.

    In the end, the answer to why Hoover did not go after organized crime

    until he was forced into it is the same reason he maintained files on

    members of Congress. Above all, Hoover wanted to keep his job. Many

    members of Congress—not to mention powerful local politicians—had ties

    to organized crime and might try to unseat him if he went after the Mafia.

    The Mafia was as powerful as the president. Moreover, as a perfectionist,

    Hoover did not want to risk losing a case against a powerful figure.

    For the same reasons, for purposes of prosecution, Hoover would not

    investigate corrupt politicians. As FBI director, Hoover had an obligation to

    go after both Mafia figures and corrupt politicians. Yet until he was

    pressured into investigating organized crime, those two targets were

    sacrosanct.

    On May 1, 1972, Helen Gandy, Hoover's personal secretary, handed him

    the first in a series of exposés by ++Jack Anderson++[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/09/15/nixon-white-house-plot-to-kill-journalist-jack-anderson.html], whose column appeared in The

    Washington Post. Previously, Anderson had enraged Hoover by assigning

    a reporter to rummage through his trash at home. The resulting column

    revealed that on Sundays, Hoover ate a hearty breakfast of poached eggs

    and hotcakes. It also revealed that he brushed his teeth with Ultra Brite,

    washed with Palmolive, and shaved with Noxzema shaving cream. Now, in

    his latest column, Anderson revealed that the FBI had conducted

    surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s sex life.

    Besides attending sex orgies, King was having an affair with a young

    woman in his office, says an agent who monitored wiretaps on King's

    office and home phones.

    "Besides his home, King had an apartment," the former agent says. "On

    Tuesdays, he'd go to the apartment, ostensibly to meditate and write

    sermons." In fact, King's girlfriend would meet him there for sex.

    For a man whose lifelong mantra had been "Don't embarrass the bureau,"

    the continuing stream of unfavorable disclosures had to be unnerving. Yet

    Hoover rarely revealed his true personal feelings. Sphinx-like, he

    projected the same persona to his friends and family as he did to the

    general public. The only difference was that in person, he showed a sense

    of humor.

    Occasionally Hoover cracked a smile or played a prank. James H. Geer,

    who would later head the Intelligence Division, recalled the time when a

    nervous new agent went to shake Hoover's hand after graduating from

    training, and mistakenly introduced himself as "Mr. Hoover."

    "Very nice to meet you, Mr. Hoover," the director responded, smiling.

    Shortly before six in the afternoon of May 1, 1972, Tom Moton, Hoover's

    FBI chauffeur, drove him to Associate Director Clyde Tolson's apartment,

    where the two had dinner. Moton drove Hoover home at 10:15 p.m.

    By 8:15 the next morning, Annie Fields, Hoover's housekeeper, became

    concerned. By then, she should have heard the sound of the shower.

    Hoover's toast, soft- boiled eggs, and coffee were getting cold. James

    Crawford, Hoover's previous FBI chauffeur, had come over to plant some

    roses. Checking on him, he found Hoover's body sprawled on the oriental

    rug next to his bed. He touched one of his hands; it was cold.

    After examining Hoover's nude body and consulting with his doctor, the

    District of Columbia medical examiner, Dr. James L. Luke, attributed the

    director's death to "hypertensive cardiovascular disease." As part of the

    speculation about his love life, a rumor had gone around that Hoover had

    an underdeveloped sex organ. That was not true, Dr. Luke tells me.

    When Hoover's will was probated, it turned out that Tolson received his

    estate, estimated at $560,000, including his home. It was the equivalent

    of $2.9 million today. Gandy received $5,000, Annie Fields $3,000, and

    James Crawford $2,000. The bequest to Tolson was the final word on the

    closeness of their relationship.

    Hoover preached that even the appearance of impropriety must be

    avoided. He disciplined agents for losing their handcuffs. Yet after the

    death of the imperious FBI director, a Justice Department and FBI

    investigation found that over the years, Hoover had FBI employees build

    a front portico and a rear deck on his home at 4936 30th Place, NW, in

    Washington. They installed a fish pond, equipped with water pump and

    lights, and they constructed shelves and other conveniences for him. They

    painted his house, maintained his yard, replaced the sod, installed

    artificial turf, and planted and moved shrubbery. They built a redwood

    garden fence and installed a flagstone court and sidewalks.

    FBI employees also reset Hoover's clocks, retouched his wallpaper, and

    prepared his tax returns. Many of the gifts Hoover received from FBI

    employees, such as cabinets and bars, had been built by them on

    government time. Hoover also ordered FBI employees to write Masters of

    Deceit for him under his name. He pocketed part of the proceeds.

    When the FBI and Justice Department finally investigated the abuses in

    the mid- 1970s at the direction of FBI Director Clarence M. Kelley, "a

    number of these agents had already retired from the bureau, and we

    were running all over the country interviewing them," says Richard H. Ash,

    who headed the FBI task force. "The agent being interviewed would say,

    'Wait a minute.' And he would go over to his files, pull out a log about all

    these things they had done, because it was eating at them that they were

    being used that way."

    "Hoover [and some of his aides] would be prosecuted under today's

    standards. No question of it. And should have been," Buck Revell,

    formerly the bureau's associate deputy director over investigations, says.

    "Hoover for the money he kept from the books he supposedly wrote but

    didn't write. Using government funds and resources for personal gain. And

    use of government employees to maintain his residence. Again, that is

    fraud against the government. Taking vacations and putting in vouchers

    for expenses. Agents have been prosecuted for that. Those things that

    were somewhat taken for granted back then would be prosecuted today."

    "Hoover did a good job for many years," says John McDermott, the former

    Washington field office special agent in charge who became deputy

    associate FBI director. "He went wrong along the way. He became a

    martinet. In seeking to prevent embarrassment to the bureau, he equated

    the bureau with himself. Everyone told him how good he was. He came to

    believe the exorbitant praise he was receiving. Anybody who can be

    conned by a flatterer has a character weakness."

    Hoover ran the FBI for forty-eight years. Never again would one man so

    dominate the bureau.

    In 1975 and 1976, the Select Committee to Study Governmental

    Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, headed by Senator

    Frank Church, held hearings on FBI and CIA abuses. These included

    surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr., illegal wiretapping and mail

    openings, and surreptitious entries or "black-bag jobs."

    Prior to that, members of Congress took the position they did not want to

    know what the FBI and CIA were doing. The Church Committee hearings,

    as they became known, exposed real abuses and a lack of focus that

    undercut the mission of those agencies. The hearings ultimately improved

    both agencies and established an effective oversight mechanism.

    When creating the FBI on June 29, 1908, as an unnamed investigative

    bureau of thirty-four special agents within the Justice Department,

    Congress had been leery of creating a national police force. Because of

    that, agents initially were not even empowered to carry weapons.

    Despite limitations on its power, questions arose very quickly about the

    extent of the bureau's authority and methods. Yet whenever a new threat

    arose, those questions would be set aside, and Congress would entrust

    the bureau with new powers.

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    nonfiction books, including In the President's Secret Service, The Terrorist

    Watch, Inside the White House, and The CIA at War. A former Washington

    Post and Wall Street Journal investigative reporter, Kessler has won

    seventeen journalism awards including the George Polk Award for

    national reporting and for community service. He is chief Washington

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    his wife, Pamela.

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    Don

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    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

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  18. Good Day .... FYI

    http://trumbull.patc...-on-the-library

    <QUOTE>

    The Doctor Calls on the Library

    Mystery writer Dr. Jerry Labriola dropped in on the

    Trumbull Library one recent night.

    By Aaron Leo

    Email the author

    May 27, 2011

    O.J. Simpson had means, motive and opportunity to commit murder, but

    the Los Angeles Police and the prosecution team bungled the probe,

    leading to acquittal, according to Dr. Jerry Labriola, who has teamed with

    famed forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee in analyses of several criminal

    investigations.

    The 1963 assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy? It was a

    conspiracy, possibly Mafia-related. And there was another gunman.

    Labriola, a medical doctor for more than 35 years, speculated on the two

    cases to 13 listeners at the Trumbull Library while promoting his latest

    book, Scent of Danger.

    "What are the secrets hidden in the Egyptian temples? In the tomb of

    Lady Beckett? In the tiny perfume bottle? What is the connection to

    bioterrorism, Islamic extremists, and to the rainforests of the Japanese

    Yakuza?", asks the book jacket.

    The doctor said the library was the fourth stop on his book tour.

    Labriola explained his beliefs after outlining the facts of both cases.

    "There are a lot of irregularities here," he said of the trial of O.J. Simpson

    for the murder of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend

    Ronald Goldman in the ex-football player's home in 1994.

    First, much of the blood found at the scene belonged to the victims and

    little to Simpson. The little blood of Simpson's that was found contained an

    anti-clotting agent used in labs.

    Police might have planted evidence to bolster their case but not to frame

    Simspon, Labriola said. The couple had fought frequently before the

    murders, and Simpson had beaten his ex-wife until she was

    unrecognizable at times, he noted.

    Still, the blood spatter was inconsistent with the prosecution's theory and

    police mishandled the investigation by failing to bring blood evidence to

    the lab immediately, Labriola said.

    "That's a no-no," the doctor said.

    The discrediting of LAPD Det. Mark Fuhrman also helped the defense sway

    the jury in the nine-month trial, he said. Regardless, Simpson was later

    found liable for their deaths in a civil suit.

    In the case of Kennedy, analysis showed Lee Harvey Oswald could not

    have fired twice in the space of time Kennedy would have been

    vulnerable.

    Further, the "magic bullet" theory doesn't work, he added.

    "There were all sorts of rumors swirling around," Labriola said of the time

    after the killing.

    He argued that the Mafia was a likely candidate for the killing because

    Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald, was a known mafia associate. JFK's brother

    Robert was also prosecuting the mob, which was also upset at being

    forced out following the Bay of Pigs incident in Cuba, Labriola said.

    The Kennedy brothers also shared girlfriends with the mob, the doctor

    said.

    Regardless, the details of the death were covered up or destroyed, such

    as the original autopsy notes and real photos of the wound to Kennedy's

    head, Labriola charged.

    "What was released to the public was a farce," the doctor said.

    "After nearly 50 years, an abundance of theories abound in this case," he

    added. But what has changed after near 50 years is the reach of forensic

    science.

    "So many people can be brought under the umbrella of forensic science,"

    Labriola said.

    While television crime scene investigation shows are correct, they are

    overdramatized. But they have highlighted the importance of the field.

    "They're one of the reasons why it's become so popular," said Labriola,

    who sold and signed books after the talk.

    That's the case for Trumbull High School senior Jillian Wyckoff, 18, who

    plans on studying the field after the graduation this year.

    "I've been watching those shows for years," she said. She likens the work

    to "fighting crime with science."

    Her mother, Lynda Gabrielson, said the field allows all kinds of people to

    serve in law enforcement.

    <END QUOTE>

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

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  19. Good Day .... FYI....

    http://www.heraldtri...e-Harvey-Oswald

    (QUOTE)

    FBI agent kept tabs on Lee Harvey Oswald

    By Billy Cox

    Published: Monday, June 13, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.

    Last Modified: Monday, June 13, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.

    Less than two weeks before President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, an

    agitated Lee Harvey Oswald entered the FBI's office in Dallas and delivered an ultimatum

    to agent James P. Hosty. The visit led to a government cover-up that further complicated

    one of the darkest chapters in American history.

    Hosty, who retired in Punta Gorda and subsequently fought for decades to salvage his

    reputation, passed away Friday at age 86 in Kansas City, Mo., following a brief bout with

    cancer.

    In his 1996 memoir "Assignment: Oswald," the counter-espionage agent attempted to

    set the record straight by taking aim at former FBI director-for-life J. Edgar Hoover: "I ...

    came to understand that one of our jobs was to protect the Bureau's image at all costs,

    even if it ran roughshod over individuals or principals."

    Working at the FBI station in Dallas, in October 1963 Hosty was directed to keep tabs on

    Oswald, the former Marine who defected to Russia, only to return in 1962. Hosty began

    making queries and focused largely on Oswald's Russian-born wife, Marina.

    On Nov. 12, 1963, Oswald visited the FBI office and left a terse handwritten note to

    Hosty, who was in the field at the time. It reportedly stated: "If you have anything you

    want to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don't cease bothering my wife, I

    will take appropriate action and report this to the proper authorities."

    James Hosty's son, Tom, who helped his father write his memoirs, said his dad was

    juggling 40 cases at the time. Tom Hosty said his father's top priority was to assess

    Oswald's potential as a broader national security threat.

    But following the sniper assassination at Dealey Plaza, the FBI was thrown into turmoil.

    James Hosty had his first and only meeting with Oswald during Oswald's initial

    interrogation by members of the Dallas Police Department. Hosty's two pages of

    handwritten notes are believed to be the only surviving records from Oswald's brief

    incarceration. Oswald was shot dead by Jack Ruby on Nov. 24, 1963.

    Hosty's name and number were discovered in Oswald's address book. Looking to

    assuage Hoover's fears that Oswald might have been an FBI informant, Hosty's

    supervisor, Gordon Shanklin, ordered Hosty to destroy the note Oswald left him.

    Hosty was temporarily suspended from duty when the truth came out during

    congressional hearings about his having misled the Warren Commission. But Hosty

    remained with the FBI until he reached mandatory retirement age in 1979.

    Tom Hosty said he and his father decided to tell his story in a book following Oliver

    Stone's "JFK" docu-drama in 1991. Stone portrayed Hosty as Oswald's handler in a

    conspiracy frame-up.

    "Dad laid it all out there," said Tom Hosty from Indianapolis. "He was determined to get

    the truth out. It was a very positive thing; he felt he could rest at peace."

    A World War II veteran and 1948 graduate of Notre Dame, the Chicago native was with

    the U.S. Army as it liberated the emaciated survivors of the Nazi concentration camp at

    Dachau. In 1990, he and his late wife Janet moved to Punta Gorda, where he was an avid

    consumer of history books and CNN newscasts in retirement.

    He lived in Florida until February, when his family brought him back to Kansas for hospice

    care. Hosty's funeral will be in Roeland Park, Kan., on Saturday. Hosty had nine children,

    22 grandchildren, and nine great-grandchildren.

    (END QUOTE)

    Best Regards in Research,

    +++Don

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  20. Good Day ....

    Is anyone in contact with, or can refer me to HERBERT SHELDON HERSHORN?

    He also went by a first name of "Shel" and "Shelley".

    Mr. HERSHORN was an 11-22-63 "Black Star Agency" photographer.

    Thank You in advance.

    Best Regards in Research,

    Don

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  21. Hi Don; here are some photos , studies done by stewart galanor,from his book.''cover-up''.... on the towers test shots etc...fyi..b

    Good Day Bernice .... Thank You.

    Stew's book + his dedicated works are also outstanding.

    (for anyone who wants to obtain his book, "Cover-up," i do have an extra copy of it available from my JFK library collection.... along with many additional extra copies of rare + hard-to-find titles, videos, audios, etc.... Feel free to contact me privately)

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    Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations,

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    Resource....http://img690.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while

    JFK was Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' "....http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif

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  22. DSL Interjection: what is "amazing" is your apparent insistence on ignoring the evidence that (a) there was a cover intercept; (b ) the autopsy doctor recognized the situation and said so aloud (as recorded by the FBI agents); and (c ) a number of bystander witnesses also attest to the fact that there was no brain in the head when the body first arrived.

    Funny, isn't it, Mr. Lifton, that the HSCA and the WC and the Rockefeller Commission and the Clark Panel "ignored" the very same evidence that has led you down the "body alteration" path?

    Now, who should I go with -- the FOUR above-mentioned official Government panels who were assigned the task of looking at the JFK murder case (or various peripheral aspects of it at least)?

    Or should I go with David S. Lifton, a person who thinks that all the shots came from the FRONT of JFK in Dealey Plaza, and who also thinks the President's body was altered with lightning-like swiftness and efficiency, even though the stealing of JFK's body was literally impossible to do, given the timeframe and the witnesses surrounding the alleged "interception" of the body?

    Call me goofy -- but that's not really a very tough choice, DSL.

    First of all, Mr. DVP, this is really a silly "argument from authority," and I would think you would know better.

    Second, with regard to all the investigations that occurred after the assassination--the WC, the Clark Panel, the Rockefeller Commission, and the HSCA--not one of them really had any clear idea that one possibility to explain the contradictory data in this case was that the President's body had been covertly intercepted and that the wounds had been altered prior to autopsy. So citing these various inquiries simply provides you with a convenient way to side-step the key issues.

    But, having said that, here are my brief comments on each of those investigations:

    Re the Warren Commission: I have not only (of course) studied the Warren Report, but I have also studied, and in considerable detail, the office files (or "working papers") of the entire staff of the Warren Commission. Each and every folder, each and every memo. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind--based on that documentary evidence--that the lawyers on the Warren Commission hadn't the faintest idea that their own files contained evidence that (a) the President's body was covertly intercepted and (b ) that the wounds had been altered. Those lawyers convened in early January, 1964. The investigative outline(s) used to structure their inquire all reflect the presumption of Oswald's sole guilt. One in particular that I recall was dated January 6, 1964, by David Belin. It outlines the very same case reflected in the Warren Report. By late March, 1964, Redlich, Eisenberg, Belin et al had created the outline for the Warren Report that was actually sent to the printer in September, 1964. All of it was centered around the presumed validity of the so-called "sniper's nest" found at the Sixth Floor of the TSBD. Anyone attempting to say that the WCR was a deliberate coverup and that all the attorneys colluded have to deal with the contrary documentary evidence resident in these office files. Although I am more than willing to entertain "individual departures" from this major thesis, the major thesis--documented in these files--remains there, and it is striking: a presumption of Oswald's guilt, from the outset, and a series of preliminary reports, and outlines, that reflect the final version of the Warren Report laid out, for all to see, and dated March 30, 1964, plus or minus a few days.

    Good Day David .... Another "coincidence" (among the warrenatti's welters of their many self-proclaimed, hypothetical "co-ink-a-dence's") that also occurred on 3-30-64 (a mere 12 days after the warrenatti had begun its field investigation in Dallas**) the NY Times carried an AP story reporting that the warrenatti - "had found no evidence that the crime was anything but the irrational act of an individual, according to knowledgeable sources."

    I wonder which self-serving, disingenuous, overly-anxious, pathological "Truth-seeker(s)" on the WC and/or from Hoover's FBI (deliberately?) crafted-"leaked" to The People via the AP that hopeful 3-30-64 over-generalization?

    ** This warrenatti crafted-promulgated AP story also appeared only 3 days after the 3-27-63 multiple "reenactment" tests with the Carcano rifle found on the TSBD 6th floor. (so, at the very least there were rumors/memo(s) about the results of the 3-27-64 rifle "reenactment" tests that were probably/most likely floating betwixt the warrenatti and/or FBI et al before the 3-30-64 AP story)

    Those 3-27-63 rifle "reenactment" tests were conducted for the "Truth seekers" in the WC by the US Army at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds on March 27, 1964 (WR193-194) and are discussed in the testimony of U.S. Army expert, Ronald Simmons (03H441-451).

    Three MASTER riflemen each fired two series of three shots using the the Carcano rifle found on the TSBD 6th floor, AFTER the scope had to be shimmed.

    The stated reason for those "reenactment" tests was to, "determine the possibility of scoring hits with this weapon on a given target at a given distance under rapid-fire conditions". (03H444)

    In other words, the scope alignment was not even close to accurate enough to hit the JFK target at the necessary distance, so it had to be modified with shims to try and make it more accurate.

    This in itself nullifies these "reenactment" rifle tests, and makes it, for all intents and purposes, invalid.

    You have to shoot the weapon in the condition it was in when the crime was committed, or, your results are absolutely worthless.

    As if using MASTER riflemen (but they did not, for example, use a multiple-times convicted-felon who had very, very briefly been a U.S. Marine documented pathological-lieing reject who was booted-out after only months into his contracted service), and, as if the warrenatti modifying the weapon for accuracy wasn't enough for them ---- the warrenatti "Truth seekers" afforded their MASTER rifleman to fire at set up STATIONARY targets located at 175, 240, and 265 feet away.

    The warrenatti "Truth seekers" also afforded their MASTER rifleman to shoot from a tower only 30-foot above the target - instead of the DP realities of the warrenatti-apologists, supposed, "lone nut" "snipers lair" elevated at 61+ feet above President Kennedy's EOP (or was it 61+ feet above his cowlick, and/or triggered from the Dal-Tex Building's next door, west face, LN-bullet-trajectories-duplicating-near-perfectly roof line?).

    These "reenactment" MASTERS were given two chances to fire three shots each. That's six chances to fire 18 shots.

    In the first 9 shots, they missed 3. In the second 9 shots, they missed 2.

    The warrenatti "Truth seekers" crafted purposes was to give the shooters EVERY POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE to duplicate or better what their "lone nut" was alleged to have done, in order to try to "prove" that it was possible.

    And guess what ?

    Even with all of those advantages that they had, only one MASTER, rifleman Miller, beat the, supposed, "lone nut's" time (twice), but he also missed the second shot (Connally) on both his chances.

    Keep in mind these were MASTER rifleman (the highest ranking), shooting with a modified rifle, firing at stationary targets, and from a substantially lower elevation.... not even close to what the warrenatti (and its apologists) have failed miserably in their trying to persuade the vast majority of persons to believe transpired inside Dealey Plaza.

    ....

    From my own experience with the late Wesley Liebeler (who was the closest thing to a "Devil's advocate", but whose area was primarily Oswald's biography), he was shocked, astounded, and amazed when, on October 24, 1966, I not only showed him the statement about pre-autopsy "surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull," in the Sibert and O'Neill FBI report, but spelled out what I thought it meant.

    There is no question in my mind that he had never thought of any such possibility before, and neither (as far as I can tell) had anyone else on the Commission or its staff.

    On that day--as described in my Chapter 9, of B.E.--Liebeler called Arlen Specter. He wouldn't let me hear what Specter said, but when Liebeler emerged from the private office, and I asked "What did he say?", he responded (as I reported in B.E.): "Arlen hopes he gets through this with his balls intact."

    Anyway, so much for the WC and its staff.

    Regarding the Clark Panel, convened in Feb-March, 1968, to examine the autopsy photographs and X-rays. I have no reason to believe that the Clark Panel conducted the kind of investigation that would have been necessary to pursue the matter of pre-autopsy alteration of the body. First of all, and fyi, I happened to have personally encountered Ramsay Clark, then either AG or Deputy AG, in early 1969, at a UCLA function, and when I raised the issue, he claimed he had never heard of it before, and said something to the effect of "And if I had, I would never have told Robert Kennedy about it." (or something like that). Second: the kind of investigation necessary would be to do what I described in Best Evidence: to (a) compare the Dallas and Bethesda descriptions of the wounds; and (b ) call the FBI agents in for careful follow-up question and (c ) trace the chain of possession on the body (as I did in B.E.) etc.

    None of that was done. The Clark Panel simply looked at the X-rays and photographs, and reported what they saw. I see no reason to believe they ever investigated the hypothesis in any manner. Nonetheless, you will note the following anomaly reflected in their report, and this concerns the report of Sibert and O'Neill that, during the autopsy, the doctor stuck his finger in the shallow back wound.

    As the Clark Panel notes: the wound was "too small to permit the insertion of a finger."

    Now right there you have another indicia that something is terribly wrong. Dr.Humes,according to sworn testimony, stuck his finger in the wound; the photographs show a wound "too small" to permit that. Right there is evidence that either (a) the doctors hallucinated, or (b ) the photos in evidence do not show that wound. (And in fact, I believe it lies beneath the ruler).

    With regard to the Rockefeller Panel, I see no reason that they did any kind of investigation that addressed the integrity of the evidence.

    Jumping to the HSCA investigation--they defininitely had the opportunity to pursue the issue. With regard to the matter of "chain of pssession," the records show that HSCA staffer Mark Flanagan called up Greer, and Kellerman (in December, 1978) and basically said: "You guys didn't alter the body, did you?" THe result of each call was a 1 page report saying nothing happened to the body. That is like asking the fox to fill out an affidavit that "nothing happened" at the hen house.

    As to the wounds being altered, the HSCA report simly acknowledges that the Dallas doctors all saw an occipital wound (of exit) but that such was not on the body, at Bethesda, and so they all must have been wroing.

    The first legal body to really pursue the matter--albeit years later-was the ARRB Because of the presence of Doug Horne on the staff,and the presence of Jeremy Gunn, some half dozen witnesses were called. As I have posted elsewhere on this forum, Horne's reaction to the ARRB was to come out in strong support of my work.

    Again, here is Horne's statement, and I QUOTE:

    David Lifton's thesis in his 1981 book "Best Evidence" has been validated by the work of the ARRB staff. Our unsworn interviews and depositions of Dallas (Parkland Hospital) medical personnel and Bethesda autopsy participants confirm that the President's body arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital in a markedly different condition than it was in when seen at Parkland for life-saving treatment. My conclusion is that wounds were indeed altered and bullets were indeed removed prior to the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital. This procedure altered the autopsy conclusions and presented a false picture of how the shooting took place. In most essential details, David Lifton "got it right" in his 1981 bestseller. (He has modified his views since his book was published on the "when" and "where," and I concur with his changes, which he will publish at a later date.)

    Numerous persons the ARRB deposed or interviewed (FBI agents Sibert and O'Neill, mortician Tom Robinson, and others) have essentially disowned the autopsy photographs showing the back of JFK's head intact. O'Neill said the photos of the back of the head looked "doctored" (by which he meant that he thought the wound had been repaired - put back together - not that the photo looked altered), and Sibert said the back of the head looked "reconstructed." Tom Robinson of Gawler's funeral home said there was a large hole in the back of the head where it looks intact in the photos. Pathologist J. Thornton Boswell said that there was a lot of bone missing in the right rear of the head behind where the scalp looks intact -but did not explain how the scalp could be intact if the bone in the right rear of the skull was missing! (See the ARRB deposition transcripts of Frank O'Neill, James Sibert, and J. Thornton Boswell, as well as the unsworn interview report of the ARRB interview with Tom Robinson.) UNQUOTE

    So: When the matter was pursued, one of the key persons in charge has come out publicly and said my thesis was in fact correct.

    DSL

    6/1/11; 1:50 AM PDT

    Los Angeles, CA

    Best Regards in Research,

    +++Don

    Donald Roberdeau

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    Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

    For your considerations....

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    Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories,

    Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient

    Resource....http://img690.images...dated110110.gif

    Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while

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