Dean Hagerman

I know I said Im no longer going to post in this thread, but look what Judyth has done Jim! How in the world could you say something like this about David? Please Jim you can back Judyth all you want, but please dont destroy any friendships over Judyth Im not looking for a mean spirited reply from you like you gave me last time Jim, because you know that I have and still will back you up on ANY of you're assassination theories Jim except with Judyth, her story is fake, just like James Files. I hope you read my post with understanding instead of anger because im always on you're side, I just dont agree with whats going on in this thread Dean Well I tried Jim I hope you can look back after you find out that Judyth is a fake and at least see that I tried to tell you And the reason that you dont think I comprehend this thread is because we are looking at this thread from different angles I have read every post, and none of them come even a little close to making me change my mind about Judyth

I posted this on Duncans forum already but might as well say it again, John Woods has provided me with many amazing assassination photos that I have never seen or been abel to get. John is selfless and shares his awesome photo collection with other researchers Thanks John

I know I said Im no longer going to post in this thread, but look what Judyth has done Jim! How in the world could you say something like this about David? Please Jim you can back Judyth all you want, but please dont destroy any friendships over Judyth Im not looking for a mean spirited reply from you like you gave me last time Jim, because you know that I have and still will back you up on ANY of you're assassination theories Jim except with Judyth, her story is fake, just like James Files. I hope you read my post with understanding instead of anger because im always on you're side, I just dont agree with whats going on in this thread Dean

Thats an awesome GIF Chris! For some reason I can not save it to my computer and keep getting an error message

Wow Im not posting in this thread anymore

Well all I keep hearing is how Judyth is super smart and remembers the dates and details of everything Looks to me like Barb uncovered some facts that Judyth tried to lie about How many times does this have to happen (Judyth being wrong, or caught in a lie) before others are able to see through her false stories?

Am I reading a different thread then everybody else? I keep reading that Judyth is right four times in a row over Jack, and that Judyth keeps proving everyone wrong about every matter and she knows more about LHO then all of us combined 500 times over This is gone to far All I see is Judyth backtracking with silly excuses everytime she is called on one of her crazy stories From where im sitting she has not been right about anything I cant believe the things I am seeing in this thread! Judyth has proved nobody wrong in this thread, all of these posts by Judyth are her make-believe stories posted against the research of those who are not lying about what they have found So how can Judyth be proving anyone wrong with false stories?

Jim To me this was not a "mistake" it was Judyth trying to make up a story as to make it look like she has never done any research or read any books on the assassination/LHO When she was called on her story by Barb I wanted to see what Judyth would come up with My post has no evil intentions and I am not jumping on any bandwagon I have never believed Judyth And unless I see some amazing proof from Judyth I will continue to not believe her story I will be the first to say I was wrong if Judyth or you can prove to me that Judyth and LHO were lovers So far I have not been impressed because I know what books Judyth could have read back before her apperance on TMWKK that would have gave her the information she needed to fake her story This is my opinion Jim, I am not saying that I am right and Judyth is wrong Trust me Jim, you know I will always be on you're side no matter what you believe about Judyth The most important thing to me is Z-film (and other film/photo) alteration and has been since 1997 Prove my opinion wrong and I will admit that I was wrong right away Dean

Wow! Great job on this study Duncan Very cool Have you taken another look at the snipers nest in Bronson when he is filming the seizure before the assassination?

Wow, very nice Barb! I really want to hear Judyth's reply to this What is she going to say to get out of this one?

I can see the outline of a human shape As far as a familar face can you expand on that Duncan

Jim Please think about this for a second Is it really worth it to you to put a wedge in your friendships with Jack White and David Lifton, two guys who have worked with you on the Z-film and many other things for over 10+ years, two guys who back you up and have the same theories as you over Judyth whom you have been talking with for a very short period of time? It really hurts me to see you guys trading words over Judyth who is sitting at home right now laughing her butt off over the fact that she is turning fellow researchers against each other. Please Jim take a step back and look at whats going on. I hate this thread, I hate the fact that Judyth has done this, I know she is very happy that she has you against Jack and David two researchers who dont believe her story I hope you dont take my post the wrong way Jim because im behind you no matter what, im also behind Jack and David no matter what Dean

Welcome to the forum Mark Like many others have already said RTJ was one of the first books I read on the assassination As you were one of the original researchers I looked up to you as a kid, and as many years have gone by I still look up to you I very happy you have become a member of the forum Dean Hagerman

I agree with Bernice Its garbage

Greg thank you so much for your kind offer but I would like to own the book If that means paying $70.00 from The Last Hurrah then I will do that because I know how important this book is and I should have bought it when it came out but I kept slacking while the price kept rising Im glad I didnt do that with all the other books I own that are now sell for top dollar I guess I will have to sleep on the couch for a night Its worth it

As you've probably noticed, new members are still being accepted. (Greg Burnham, Doug Weldon, and Martin Hay are all new members.) If you send Armstrong's email address to John Simkin, I suspect there'll be no problem. I was about to post the same response, then suspected that I wouldn't be telling Jack White anything he didn't already know. It seems clear he opted for his approach for a reason. I've always respected John Armstrong for his efforts. I've loaned and given away numerous copies of Harvey & Lee to my friends. Michael I wish I was your friend that you would give away a copy of Harvey & Lee too, because my wife would kill me if I drop another $100.00 on a book

It sure sounds like it to me, comparing Lifton's research to Pamela's research is like comparing a Porsche to a Yugo

RIP Ed Hoffmann

Thats real fair Stephen So its ok for members to post Gary Macks thoughts but its not ok for me to post Peters? Dean, I remember how pleased you were to be admitted to our company, here at this forum, just a few short months ago. Could you ever imagine that you would, so soon, show so little respect for your fellow members here, and so little value for your posting privileges, by posting threats and insults under your name, on behalf of another? I still am pleased to be a member I am not pleased at how Peter was treated and believe he should have a voice against those who are trying to smear his name

I wont post anything else then as I do not wish to cause problems or break any "rules" But I think Peter should have a voice when other members are allowed to post smear comments about him (And im sure you know what posts im talking about)

Thats real fair Stephen So its ok for members to post Gary Macks thoughts but its not ok for me to post Peters?

Lastly, if legal action is going to, in the end, have to be taken I'll hold the Forum and perhaps some members liable for continuing to allow and/or post personal and private details of my life - often totally false or spun to make partial fact into totally misleading lies - as with that of Dunn's latest. Are there not Forum rules about keeping private information about a person off the Forum. I insist Mr, Dunn's slanderous and 99% false post be removed or will be added to the other libel and defamation. Disgusting people there with no morality; not sense of fair play; only loving to kick a person when they are down if they don't like their politics - more 'beat the victim' mentality, so common there. You further trying to discredit, slander, lie about and libel me - as well as give out details of my life that are private - should all be ashamed of yourselves; but have not enough morality to be. Mr. Dunn is a hateful and despicable xxxx. Remove his post! Of post where everyone works/worked and any other personal details about every member. Where will it end? Sick site full of sick hateful people, with a few exceptions. Peter Lemkin

What a bunch of lies and damn lies - and how unfair to talk about me when my voice is silenced there and I can't defend myself easily - and this was even so before much of this broke - the refusal of JS to see the evidence or respond to my email that AW was setting me up - still have it JS - add to that AWs first allegation and "thinking like a Nazi, dangerous, unstable, boilingly mad" PM - followed by one warning me NOT to talk about the matter [i.e. you are not allowed to clear your name of the false charges - publicly or privately - you are simply guilty]! Colby's points are garbage [with the small exception of his call for all the posts to be restored]. Cigdem had multiple emails or PMs from multiple men to which she objected. Can prove that. NONE OF MINE were objectionable. The one cited I have reviewed and it was harmless and even followed by a friendly reply from her. NONE were via PMs - ALL were done by email outside the Forum - so IMO never a matter of Forum business. JS is correct in only one thing. They never saw the evidence - but AW didn't care - those he hates are presumed guilty until executed - no evidence needed, nor trial, nor defense - summary execution. Shame on JS for going along to get along - and now lying. I do NOT know, but can only guess that some weeks after the alleged [and NON] offensive email [not PM], Cigdem had in the meantime [unknown to me] been contacted by several unwanted men, and some of those emails or PMs were highly objectionable to her. For whatever reason or by whatever psychological mechanism she complained about all of them throwing me in, or just me - I don't know...but I do know one thing. The tone on the short extract you saw was the same friendly tone throughout as I can prove.... Interesting how all those who keep on looking for hidden clues to challange my stating the truth - or even Cigdem's saying it was a mistake and misunderstanding are longstanding political adversaries...it says it all!! J.S.s last post only tries to make me look worse to defend himself. He admits they never saw the email [not PM] nor knew of the context - a long friendly, and for a short time, mutually flirtatious exchange over many months. I never sent her a PM - our mutual friendly exchange [even including ones friendly by her beyond the so-called offensive email WHICH I HOLD] were consistent. A final angry and very strange surprise (to me) email said to stop writing - which I did. It think it has more to do with what other persons had emailed / PMd her and not with me. However, this all PURPOSEFULLY avoids the real issues.....NO REASONS for ANY of the actions done against me....lies inserted.....timing reversed to CYA there - making my reactions the 'reason' for your [at an earlier time] action against me - and thus the rationale for the new punishments after. Post facto invented creations to hide the misdeeds, lies and set-up! Shame on the EF and its Administrators! Walker wanted me out at all/any cost - any excuse or provocation, in which he tried many times, and were used. Who is next who speaks without fear and with conviction on a matter not on the 'approved' list of topics of AW hates for speaking of a conpiracy after the death of Caesar - or was that only a 'conspiracy theory too Mr. Walker? More later. Peter Lemkin

I dont believe anything you say fanboy Sure Craig Im a fanboy in your eyes because I support Peter and you dont like Peter Peter cares about the truth in the JFK assassination Something that you dont care about