Dean Hagerman

Calm the hell down What in the world would some 18 year old kid have to do with the assassination? I can answer that for you... Nothing Now his dad on the other hand.... Quote edited by moderator, due to language.

Did I miss something? What does that video have to do with the JFK assassination?

Passed Witherspoon v. Illinois, which in effect saved Richard Speck (and later Charles Manson) from being put to death If anybody has seen the Richard Speck tape from Stateville Prison of him doing coke, having sex, and talking about killing the nurses you know why this was one of the biggest screw ups of Earl Warren This lead to Furman v. Georgia which took the death penelty away and saved the lives of people like Richard Speck and Charles Manson who proved that the death penelty MUST be carried out

Your wrong Lee I am mad at you because you were way out of line to say those things to David Healy It has nothing to do with my view of alteration, I mean both of us have agreed that the missing limo turn in the Z-film is the most important proof of alteration Unless I read what you said the wrong way, either that or you missed the part that we agreed and think that I have been gunning for you from day one I had no problem until you dropped that bull xxxx on David You went way to far with those insults

I believe JFK was hit twice in the head, once from behind and once from the front, and pretty close together within a second, but not as close as the fake Z-film shows, I have already explained why you can still see traces of the doyuble head hit in the Z-film, but not the whole double head hit, 95% of it was taken out I believe Tink was correct in SSID with his research on the double head hit, that is when I first started to put the double head hit into my overall theory (back in 1988) Then reading Rich Dellarosa's details of the "other" film (not just in TGZFH but many times on his forum) cemented the theory for me after I became a believer in alteration back in 1997 So I have always believed in the double head hit theory, but after I read Bloody Treason and researched alteration for 10 years I still had the double head hit in my overall theory, but Richs description of the double head hit really drove it into my theory on the assassination for good

He took the oath of the Chief Justice of the USA and then broke that oath to us when he agreed to head the WC and cover up JFKs murder

No, I didn't make a mistake Dean. I meant entrance indentation, as in a shot fired from behind So you no longer believe in a shot from the front? Or do you believe in the double head hit?

Dunacan you made a mistake in the thread title, you put entrance instead of exit Im sure its just a typo

If Marina was working for the KGB then why in the hell was she allowed to leave Russia with LHO and then proceed to live in the USA for the rest of her life? Thats one hell of an assignment, one that lasts the rest of your life, im sure the KGB told her after LHO died to just stay in the USA Lee let me lay it out for you A. Marina was not KGB B. Marina was not involved in the assassination C. You are deluded

Good call Jim, how can anyone say that the Parkland doctors were wrong?

Some interesting and puzzling stuff on this thread for a non-expert like me. Beginning with Martin's post #9 on page 1 of this thread, I gather it is being asserted that Z337 shows part of the back of the skull "missing." If I understand Craig's post No. 10 and subsequent posts, Craig is asserting that what we see is a "rimlight of sunshine" or a "highlight", and that this can be seen moving in other frames. Here's my question: If what we see is "missing skull" that the villains forgot to paint over when they altered the rest of the film, how come this "gaping hole" in the back of the head shows no sign of exposed blood or brain matter in this (presumably unaltered) frame? It's simply amazing that the exposed brain looks just like hair shining in the sun .... You have got to be joking Craig! The blow out in the back of the head is clearly visable in the posted frame When altering the film frame by frame those working on the film must have let this frame slide because it did not show the blow out in total detail like the frames before that needed a black patch to cover it up

Just looked it up, it was Harry Blackmun not Hugo Black Im getting old and starting to forget everything

Didnt Hugo Black write the court opinion on Roe vs. Wade?

Thanks for the info as always Bernice It is too bad that Groden did not follow up on it

Good call Jack

I dont know about "blindly accepting" the Badgeman claim I think that not only is the Badgeman image true, but that the whole Badgeman scenario (Minus Gordon Arnold) is true as well

I know it was Gary who discovered Badgeman (although Groden claims it was Ruth Carter Stapleton who discoverd the image when Groden showed her the Moorman picture), I just dont care to talk about him at all, I see your work on blowing up the picture and making the image clear as very important I would like to know more about this whole deal with Groden and Stapleton, anybody know the story behind that?

Do you have the same Polaroid camera and film that Moorman used so you can prove that that kind of detail wont show up?

Wow, good eye Jack I have never noticed that before

Bernice, quickly -- I am doing OK. I just had a bone density scan and it came out normal -- no osteoporosis, arthritis, etc. I knew the blast was coming from his gun, but there's a depiction there where he's standing with both arms down and the blast coming out of his face presumably. When I showed this to my brother, he said, "The guy's lighting a cigarette." With what, dynamite? Kathy C Kathy the reason Badge Man has his arms down in the photo posted by Duncan is because Duncan found a random picture of a body of Cop to use as a height comparison for his Gordon Arnold study The real Badgeman as discovered by Jack White and some other guy shows his arms holding a rifle in firing position

I felt the same way Walt, when Lifton said he would sleep with the lights on at night after he found out about the body being altered it really made me feel uneasy I will never forget reading Best Evidence back in 1988 for the first time

Your right John, I just looked in Crossfire, it was found on the Records building

#4 is by far the most important find by far

Awesome GIF Robin! Thank you, just saved it to my computer

Looks like a camera. It could be I wonder if Mr Hester was filming from his position then handed his camera through the pergola window to someone? Interesting thought