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COULD A MOD STICK AN E IN DIFFERENT MANY THANKS, HOW DOES ONE CORRECT A TITLE, TA..B
The Press Association: Police refuse comment on spy's death
http://www.google.co...Uh8Hy4mZCkIgn_w
MI6: The History of the Secret Intelligence Service, 1909-1949 by Keith Jeffery | Book review | Books | The Observer
http://www.guardian....ligence-service
our kind of traitor
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I think you'll find that a serial killer is regarded as someone whom actually performs the crime. That's the difference with Johnson.
Even Charles Manson cannot legally be classified as a serial killer. We'll have to disagree.
Perfect!
This is what I have been trying to get through to Robert
Now he is calling LBJ a Classic Serial Killer!
All I can do is sit here and shake my head
And what I am trying to get through to you guys is Lyndon Johnson was MURDERING people down in Texas as a course of business in order to cover up his voluminous crimes. You don't have to physically and personally kill some one to be a serial killer. If you hire your on-staff Hit Man Malcolm Wallace to regularly crack people on the head, and carbon monoxide them to death, thus committing homocide while attempting to fake suicide, you are as much a "serial killer" as Malcolm Wallace is. Our "debate" is a semantics game of people arguing past each other. Lyndon Johnson was a psychopathic murderer and serial killer any way you slice it.
There are 4 LBJ crime events that really stand out before Johnson got around to murdering John Kennedy:
1) Malcolm Wallace murdered Doug Kinser in the fall of 1951 here in Austin. I have been to the death scene in the pro shop at the pitch golf course that is still there today. There you can see an iron waste basket, the original from 1951 that is still there, with a bullet indentation from the Doug Kinser murder still there a whopping 59 years later. Lyndon Johnson's lawyer Doug Cofer represented Malcolm Wallace in the trial in early 1952 and Wallace was CONVICTED of first degree murder. And the sentence that he got was 5 YEARS PROBATION WITH NO TIME IN JAIL ... That is worth repeating, Lyndon Johnson pulled political strings, threatened the jury, leaned on the judge and prosecutor and Wallace convicted of first degree murder GOT 5 YEARS PROBATION WITH NO TIME IN JAIL! That shows you the kind of dark power Lyndon Johnson wielded in Texas in his heyday.
2) Lyndon Johnson had his goons murder Sam Smithwick in jail, when Smithwick was going to start talking about the voter fraud that got Lyndon Johnson elected in 1948 to the Senate. Texas Gov. Allan Shivers in 1956 accused the sitting Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson of murdering Smithwick; Shivers accused LBJ of this to his face. [Dallek, Lone Star Rising, p. 347]
3) The psychopathic serial killer Lyndon Johnson made his mistress' black nanny Dale Turner disappear FOREVER, probably murdered by Malcolm Wallace, after Dale had seen LBJ and Madeleine enter a hotel room in San Antonio. This occurred when Johnson was Vice President, sometime in 1961 or 1962; probably at the historic Manger Hotel which is located right next to the Alamo. This is really stunning: having Madeleine's nanny who has been with the family for 10 years, probably murdered and for sure "disappeared forever." The nanny in many Southern families is like a family member; Lyndon Johnson would have her killed and not thought twice about it. http://www.21stcentu...presidents.html
Madeleine says:
"Dale Turner, our mate... came up missing and I've never found her since," says Madeleine of the woman who was basically the nanny to her two children and had been with Steven since he was born. She says LBJ spotted Dalel observing the two of them together at a hotel in San Antonio and it upset him. "He covered his tracks very well," says Madeleine. "He didn't want anyone to know about our relationship, so after Dale saw him he told me that I would have to tell her goodbye. I said 'I can't do that, she's been with us ten years!' And he said, 'I said you'll have to tell her goodbye.' After we were returned to Dallas she called me at work and told me that she had some very important business, and I said, 'That's fine Dale, go take care of it, just take the boys to my mother's, [who] we lived close to.' I said, 'Take all the time you want.' She lived in with us and that was very convenient... Dale never did return. We had the "color law" in Texas in those years. If you did report a [missing] black, they could care less. It's very sad and tragic, but it did happen... Through the years I have tried to find her or find out what happened." She heard 'Mack Wallace' took care of her implying LBJ's orders caused the murder of the woman who had been the nanny of the President's son."
4) Then there is the murder of Agricultural Dept. bureacrat Henry Marshall in June, 1961. This was an obvious LBJ murder to cover up the Billie Sol Estes scandal and Johnson's key ties to it. Billie Sol Estes has testified in court that he, LBJ, Cliff Carter and Malcolm Wallace planned the murder. So Lyndon Johnson was putting out hits as Vice President: killing bureacrats who might expose him, murdering the nanny, etc. For Lyndon Johnson to get his knife blade wet on John Kennedy, it would be just another day's work.
http://educationforu...?showtopic=5988
There is a book that I do recommend reading on what a psychopath Lyndon Johnson was and his key role in the JFK Assassination. It is LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination by Phillip Nelson (2010). http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/
This is a complete fantasy.
NO THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE FANTASY, MANY WISH IT WAS. AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN TMWKK THERE WAS A WALLACE TRIAL, WITH THE OUTCOME AS RELATED ABOVE, PLUS OTHER INFORMATION REPORTED ON BY THOSE INVOLVED AT THE TIME, ..IT IS STILL UP ON THE WEB FOR ANYONE NEEDING A REFRESHER COURSE, A CRIMINAL TRIAL IS FAR FROM FANTASY.THE U.S CRIMINAL COURTS TRIAL RECORDS ARE STILL THERE.....
AS ARE BILLIE ESTES...
FOR SOME FURTHER INFORMATION THAT MAY BE OF HELP....THE HISTORY CHANNELS ''THE KENNEDY'S AN AMERICAN FAMILY'' CD SET,IN ONE VIDEO THAT IS TITLED RFK HIS LIFE AND LEGACY ,WHICH IS NOT ON UTUBE, THAT I COULD FIND,THOUGH THERE IS A 40TH ANNIVERSARY SAME TITLE ...THE VIDEO IT IS NOT THE HISTORY CHANNELS, ..........BUT IT IS AVAILABLE SEPARATELY AT http://www.amazon.co...GACY+&x=25&y=24 FOR AS LITTLE USED AS 2.98...WITHIN THE RFK CD THERE IS AN RFK AND LBJ EPISODE,TITLED CHASING DEMONS ABOUT LBJ. , FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN THIS THREAD THE DOCUMENTATION BY THOSE WHO REPEAT THEIR INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO LBJS PARANOIA, UNSETTLING BEHAVIOUR AND THE CONCERN OF MANY OF HIS CLOSE ASSOCIATES AND ASISSTANTS INCLUDI NG HIS LONG TIME SECRETARY IS VERY ENLIGHTENING, AND IS NOT DONE WITH MALICE,IMO.. BUT RELATING HOW THINGS WERE, THERE IS ALSO INFORMATION SOME NEGATIVE ON RFK FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO SEE A TIT FOR TAT,,AND WILL NOT ADMIT THAT LBJ WAS HAVING VERY STRESSFUL EPISODES OF MENTAL TROUBLES, SOME LIKE TIP O'NEAL CALL IT PERHAPS WHAT IT WAS MANIC DEPRESSIVE DISORDER, MEN LIKE BURKETT VAN KIRK,WHO WAS AN INVESTIGATOR, REPORTS ON DON REYNOLDS, AND THE DOCUMENTATION, RECEIPTS . EVIDENCE SEEN, AND SO ON REPORTED BY KIRK,INVOLVING LBJ, THE EPISODE WITHIN THE RFK CD IS CALLED ''LBJ CHASING DEMONS''...RICHARD GOODWIN, AND, OTHERS INFORMATION IS ALSO INCLUDED....LINK TO THE http://shop.history....ail.php?p=71430 FOR THE COMPLETE SET .I NOTICE THE PRICE HAS DROPPED WHICH IS A WELCOME SURPRISE..THERE IS ALSO EVAN THOMPSONS BOOK ON RFK THAT RELATES SUCH INFO WITHIN THERE IS NOT PERHAPS AS I HAVE SEEN SO FAR WITHIN THIS THREAD ANY SMOKING GUNS PROOF, FOR EITHER ROBERT'S NOR TERRI'S THEORYS PERHAPS SOME DAY SUCH WILL BE FOUND AND AVAILABLE TO FINALLY END ALL THE DISCOURSE THAT GOES ON WITHIN THE ASSASSINATION RESEARCHERS SCENARIOS, BUT FOR NOW ALL WE HAVE IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US RE VIDEO BOOKS, ARTICLES ETC...SO TO EACH THEIR OWN, YOUR ENTITLED, AND TRY TO KEEP IN MIND WE ARE OUR OWN WORSE ENEMIES MANYS A TIME, WE REALLY DO NOT NEED LNRS TO GET OUR BACKS UP, WE DO THAT SO VERY WELL ON OUR OWN AT TIMES, AS EACH BELIEVES THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND THEY FEEL THEY REALLY MUST BE, SO TAKE THIS INFORMATION FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, WETHER IT HELPS OR ONE CHOOSES TO DISMISS IT, LIKE SO MUCH IS SO QUICKLY, THIS FOR NOW IS JUST MY 2 CENTS, THANKS AND TAKE CARE ALL...PLEASE ONE AND ALL EXCUSE THE CAPS THAT TIME OF NIGHT, TXS......B
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i cannot find the pavlik attempt on jfk, if anyone can or has the clippings, please post appreciated, thanks b
James Haggerty, by the way, was the ABC News executive who hired Lisa Howard and was her boss when she interviewed Kruschev, Castro and served as the intermediary in the JFK-Castro backchannel negotiations that were going on at the time of JFK's assassintion.
BK
Thanks Bll for the info, here is the forum link to information on Lisa, take care...best b
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the feinman report CBS ABC COVER ASSASSINATION FEINMAN PDF.
sorry i simply cannot load the file perhaps tomorrow...??? b.
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this is what i get when i try to download the file, but the file is not showing when i do open it......??
the gremlin has taken over... :blink: help if you please..it is more than likely this piece of crap... Error: Could not download document at the given URL. Sometimes this error happens when you submit a document that requires you to log into that website (e.g. gmail). Vuzit does not support this yet.
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THANK YOU MICHAEL; ''QUOTE ''Stone also made this comment about his film JFK:
"In the case of JFK, that was a monster for me, because we did publish a damn book and nobody referenced it. And the book was not completely accurate, but it was pretty much [accurate] ... We had a lot of footnotes in there, and we covered a lot of bases. [Detractors] kept saying we made it up. I don't know, we put a book out, we documented all our footnotes, we weren't hiding anything. [but] because we turned 26 characters into three [in the screenplay], all the sudden everything had to be thrown out the window."
THE BOOK OF THE MOVIE IS ALSO VERY WELL DONE, FYI.....B
JFK AND THE MEDIA / Censorship
JFK: HOW THE MEDIA ASSASSINATED THE REAL STORY*
Robert Hennelly and Jerry Policoff
[Editor's Note: Robert Hennelly and Jerry Policoff trace
the role of the media, especially THE NEW YORK TIMES,
TIME-LIFE, and CBS, in distorting and misrepresenting
information about the death of JFK to the American people,
another sad chapter in dereliction of duty by the press.];
http://www.assassina...assination.html
the movie...by oliver stone..
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truman news coverage on assassin ation attempt...b
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i cannot find the pavlik attempt on jfk, if anyone can or has the clippings, please post appreciated, thanks b
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''That we hotly dispute one another's theories about this case is of small consequence, weighed against our common belief that the election of our President was nullified with bullets, instead of ballots.'' Mary Ferrell.....
thanks bill for reposting Mary's paper,, still stands true as do sylvia's words...b
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thanks daniel...b
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NOT TO DIVERT BUT...ROBERT ; QUOTE ''Many of the Secret Service agents on the ground were just following the orders of their superiors,'' THERE IS NO KNOWN DOCUMENTATION OF ANY KIND, THAT ANY OTHER REAL SECRET SERVICE AGENTS WERE ON THE GROUND WITHIN DEALEY THAT DAY, THERE WERE MANY REPORTS OF MEN WHO SAID THEY WERE AND SOME SHOWING I.D BUT WHEN THE STATS WERE CHECKED THEY WERE NOT, THE ONLY ONE MENTIONED ON THE GROUND WITHIN THE PARK AREA WAS SSAIC DALLAS SORRELS...WHOM CAMERMAN ORVILLE NIX KNEW AND SPOKE TO, BOTH SAYING SHOTS OR A SHOT CAME FROM THE FENCE AREA, IF YOU HAVE ANY PLEASE LET US KNOW, THANKS B...
By "on the ground," I do not mean at Dealey Plaza, where there were no real Secret Service men, only imposter Secret Service men working for the assassins. I mean the Secret Service men in Kennedy's detail who made sure the bubble top was not on; who were not close to his limo, who did not check the buildings for snipers or open windows.
The vast majority of these guys were "just following orders" of corrupted superiors who were involved in the JFK assassination plot. Ditto the Dallas motorcycle police who were NOT surrounding JFK's limo and allowed Kennedy to be in such a line of fire. They were just "following orders" to scale back the security protection and leave the limo open and vulnerable.
Understood robert, yes they failed that day some like roberts seen as very deliberately as well as kellerman in not following through in their known duties, and the ss has and will continue to live with it on their record...though the bubble top was not bullet proof nor the glass windows, the top i believe may have diverted the assassins view and perhaps bullets...some reports have stated..there were many warnings but none were heeding the seriousness it appears...thanks b
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NOT TO DIVERT BUT...ROBERT ; QUOTE ''Many of the Secret Service agents on the ground were just following the orders of their superiors,'' THERE IS NO KNOWN DOCUMENTATION OF ANY KIND, THAT ANY OTHER REAL SECRET SERVICE AGENTS WERE ON THE GROUND WITHIN DEALEY THAT DAY, THERE WERE MANY REPORTS OF MEN WHO SAID THEY WERE AND SOME SHOWING I.D BUT WHEN THE STATS WERE CHECKED THEY WERE NOT, THE ONLY ONE MENTIONED ON THE GROUND WITHIN THE PARK AREA WAS SSAIC DALLAS SORRELS...WHOM CAMERAMAN ORVILLE NIX KNEW AND SPOKE TO, BOTH SAYING SHOTS OR A SHOT CAME FROM THE FENCE AREA,THE OTHER DALLAS SS WERE AT THE TRADE MART, IF YOU HAVE ANY PLEASE LET US KNOW, THANKS B...
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Now, I don't consider myself a "heavyweight" researcher like Jim D. and DVP consider themselves. I just know the facts that I've read.
And DPD chief Jesse Curry, the man whose job it was to uncover the evidence that would prove Lee Harvey Oswald guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, said, even a few years after the assassination, that no one could place Lee Harvey Oswald in the southeast window of the sixth floor of the TSBD with the 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano in his hands at the time the bullets were fired.
I'm not a lawyer, but the standard for conviction in America is NOT what a preponderance of evidence points to; the standard for conviction in American jurisprudence is that the prosecutor convince 12 jurors that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And as Chief Curry states the case, there IS reasonable doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald fired "that rifle" from "that window" at that time.
So long as that reasonable doubt exists, Oswald's guilt will always be a matter for debate.
As for CE399, I'm inclined to believe Tom Purvis' theory. If there was no bullet impact in the limb of the oak tree in front of the TSBD, there would be no reason for those investigating the murder to saw them off the tree...as removal of the limbs for any other purpose alters the crime scene and actually hampers the investigation.
As I said, I'm no heavyweight researcher. I just know these few facts.
HI MARK IF THIS IS IN REGARD TO WERE THERE CHANGES TO THE CRIME SCENE SOON AFTER, PLEASE READ EMMET HUDSON THE GROUNDS KEEPER'S INFORMATION,WHO WAS ON THE STEPS THAT DAY, HE COMMENTS ON THE FACT THAT THERE WERE MANY CHANGES....ANDTHEY ALSO CONTINUED DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS HAVING MANY SINCE, THANKS B I BELIEVE IT IS WITHIN HERE....http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/wit.htm
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THANK YOU JOHN, THE NAME THE PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION HAS BEEN KNOWN ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS, FYI, AND IS USED WITHIN THE PAGES OF THE W/C ITSELF..THE IDEA OF FINDING OUT THE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SUCH A CHANGE WOULD BE INTERESTING...THANKS B..BELOW IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE..
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=138435
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YouTube - The Kennedy Detail: The REAL Story Part 11 JFK Assassination Secret Service Gerald Behn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17N6OxrBps&feature=player_embedded
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A LOOK BACK AT "CLASSIFICATION MANAGEMENT"
SECRECY NEWS
from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy
Volume 2010, Issue No. 75
September 22, 2010
Secrecy News Blog: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/
** DARPA SEEKS TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT DECLASSIFICATION<BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">** A LOOK BACK AT "CLASSIFICATION MANAGEMENT"
DARPA SEEKS TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT DECLASSIFICATION
The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has issued a new solicitation to industry and academia in an attempt "to discover new technologies to support declassification." Researchers are invited (pdf) to submit ideas for innovative approaches to declassification that will support the National Declassification Center in achieving its goals.
Can technology actually make a difference in declassification? It seems clear that it can, at least within certain limits.
One thing that technology cannot do is to render a decision about exactly what should be classified or declassified. That is a policy question which is dependent on a complex, rapidly changing factual environment (e.g. what related information is already available in the public domain) as well as a largely subjective threat assessment (e.g. what damage might conceivably result from disclosure and what benefits might ensue). Such a decision does not easily lend itself to a technological formula.
Besides that, the executive order that governs the national security classification system is permissive, not mandatory; it allows the classification of eligible information, but does not require it. So any algorithm that dictates the continued classification of a certain category of information is likely to be wrong at least sometimes.
However, the declassification process is composed of several discrete steps, many or all of which could be facilitated by new technologies. These steps include the collection and assembly of records for review, the circulation of records to reviewers as needed, the actual review and redaction process, and the distribution of the declassified records, among others -- each of which might be streamlined and expedited by new technological measures.
So, for example, if it were possible to routinely incorporate the digitization of records into the declassification process, and to make the digitized records available online so that readers would not have to come to the National Archives or to the Presidential Libraries just to view them, that action alone would multiply the utility of the declassification process many times over.
But perhaps the strongest contribution that technology could make involves the future declassification of records that are being classified today. Classified records that are being created now could be tagged in such a way as to expedite their ultimate declassification. In fact, the goal should be to eliminate the need for declassification processing altogether, or as far as possible. Instead, most classified records should literally be self-declassifying. Their classification controls should expire and be automatically canceled. In principle, this ought to be readily achievable.
The Public Interest Declassification Board will hold a public session on the potential role of new technology in declassification on Thursday, September 23 at the National Archives. The agenda is here (pdf).
The new DARPA solicitation was reported in "Darpa Wants You To Build An Anti-Secrecy App" by Spencer Ackerman in Wired Danger Room, September 14.
A LOOK BACK AT "CLASSIFICATION MANAGEMENT"
The theory and practice of national security classification policy in the late cold war years are exemplified and explored in back issues of Classification Management, the journal of the National Classification Management Society (NCMS), which is the professional society of classification officers and other security professionals. Several back issues of the journal are now available online.
"Security Classification is the black sheep of the Information Science family," wrote C.C. Carnes in the first issue (pdf) of Classification Management in 1965 (p.15). "Everyone else is trying to expedite the flow of information. People working in the field of Security Classification are trying to impede, control, and limit the flow of information. However, we should not be blamed for this apparent perversity. It serves a purpose."
That purpose is discussed in depth and detail and with notable candor.
"LIMDIS controls came into existence largely to replace bogus security markings such as SNTK, MK, and CNTK," explained Raymond P. Schmidt of the Navy (NCMS Viewpoints 1992 [pdf], at p. 34).
While much of the security policy content of the journals is now obsolete, they retain historical, sociological and perhaps even anthropological interest.
The first couple of issues of the journal comprised "virtually the entire body of published information on the professional aspects of classification management" at that time, wrote NCMS President (and ACDA official) Richard L. Durham in 1966 (Vol. 2, p. 4).
A wide array of security policy issues were addressed over the years in Classification Management, including the dissemination of scientific and technological information, the conduct of classified research and development on university campuses, patent secrecy, and the unauthorized disclosure of classified information.
In the 1972 edition, a panel of reporters and government officials discussed the impact and meaning of the Pentagon Papers for classification management and freedom of the press (Vol. 8, pp. 64-75).
In 1990, Steven Garfinkel, the former director of the Information Security Oversight Office, memorably discussed "not the highlights, not the triumphs, but some of the low points" of his career as ISOO director up to that point. "This is my tenth anniversary speech. Ushers, please bar the doors." (Vol. 26, pp.6-9).
The National Classification Management Society kindly granted permission to post several back issues of Classification Management and NCMS Viewpoints on the Federation of American Scientists website here.
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Secrecy News is written by Steven Aftergood and published by the Federation of American Scientists.
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Live Webcast Today: Masterpieces of History: The Peaceful End of the Cold War in Europe, 1989
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:53 PMFrom: "National Security Archive" archive@GWU.EDU To: NSARCHIVE@HERMES.GWU.EDUNational Security Archive Update, September 21, 2010
Masterpieces of History: The Peaceful End of the Cold War in Europe, 1989
Cold War International History Project to Host Panel Discussion and Webcast Today at 4pm
For more information contact:
The Cold War International History Project - 202/691-4110
The National Security Archive - 202/994-7000
Washington, DC, September 21, 2010 - Today, Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at the George Washington University, and Svetlana Savranskaya, research fellow of the National Security Archive, will discuss their new book, Masterpieces of History: The Peaceful End of the Cold War in Europe, 1989. Twenty years in the making, this collection presents 122 top-level Soviet, European, and American records on the superpowers' role in the events of 1989. Consisting of Politburo minutes; diary entries from Gorbachev's senior aide, Anatoly Chernyaev; meeting notes and private communications between Gorbachev and George H.W. Bush, Margaret Thatcher, Helmut Kohl and Francois Mitterrand, as well as high-level CIA analyses, this volume offers an insider's look at the events that culminated in the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe and the end of the Cold War. Joining Blanton and Savranskaya on the panel is David Hoffman, foreign editor at The Washington Post.
For more information, see the Web site of the Cold War International History Project: http://www.wilsoncenter.org/index.cfm?topic_id=1409&fuseaction=topics.event&event_id=632577
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Johnson was a stooge IF anything lol. He was NOT pulling ANY strings other than those that he was ORDERED to pull. He was a "lowly" southern politician, a corrupt one. We have to look at the much bigger picture when analyzing the JFK hit. I am suspect of theories that propose Johnson was a "big wig" who pulled the murder off. I do not believe it for a second.
I agree, however, his focus on Johnson is bringing attention where attention is due.
Georgene Rice of KPDQ-FM [2] Radio Interviews Ronald Tessler, author of “In the President’s Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect”Rice: For the average rank and file American, the Secret Service is somewhat mysterious about the Secret Service…How did you gain this kind of unprecedented access?
Tessler: An FBI agent introduced me to a Secret Service way back and more recently several current agents came to me and told me about the corner cutting that’s been going on in the Secret Service. And the corner cutting includes not doing sufficient screening at some events, letting passengers into an airplane without metal detectors. This has been going on ever since Homeland Security was created in 2003. It was as you say, controversial in the Service because it turned out to be an expose as well as what the agency the scenes.
Rice: What are members of the Secret Service permitted to talk about?
What can they say while they are serving in the agency?
Tessler: They’re not supposed to say anything while they are with the Service and after they leave. They are no actual contract and they can’t be fired unless they are currently with the service. There’s an understanding, a sort of culture, if you break that, you can suffer consequences…Secret Service people who are in positions to hire you later, may not want to hire you…And actually about half of the quotes are on the record….they trusted me to tell the right story…”
Rice: With the Secret Service, what are they officially charged with doing? What are there responsibilities beyond protecting them from assassins?
Tessler: The are charged with going after counterfeiters, people with financial crimes, ATM fraud, they protect about 46 people now, in the White House and Cabinet positions… They protect visiting heads of state, National Nominating Convention, The Inaguration, the G20 Summit…We’re seeing more corner cutting as the responsibilities of the Secret Service are increasing without an increase in funding or manpower…and what results is a lowering of standards.
Rice: You mentioned that the Secret Service is now under Homeland Security. You write that threats against President Obama rose by as much as 400% compared to when George W. Bush was in office. Once again, they are called on to do more with less resources when threats are the highest.
Tessler: Exactly, these threats have prompted a Secret Presidential Task Force within the FBI, which consists of Secret Service, FBI and CIA. A lot of the increases are because of racists and these are real racists who don’t like a black President. They may not be serious but each one has to be investigated.
Rice: The Secret Service, you write, is also responsible for protecting Presidential candidates and you write that John McCain and Barack Obama had very different relationships with the Secret Service.
Tessler: McCain was very tempermental and would blow up at Secret Service agents for no good reason and that was generally his personality behind the scenes. Whereas Barack Obama was and is respectful and considerate to agents. Both he and Michelle have invited agents to dinner several times during the campaign. He does continue to smoke on a regular basis, despite his claims to give it up.
Rice: Speaking of candidates, you write of Gary Hart, who lost his bid to the White House when the affair with Donna Rice was made public but that really wasn’t an isolated incident and was aparently quite active during the campaign.
Tessler: The Secret Service would go with him to Beverly Hills where his friend, Warren Beaty would arange to have starlets show up at Beaty’s home…and they would all jump in the hot tub, the girls would strip and they would stay over night and this was just par for the course for him. Ronald Reagan found out that the news of Donna Rice would break as he was getting into an elevator at the White House residence and he said, “Boys will be Boys” then he went up in the elevator with his Secret Service agent and said, “But boys will not be President”.
Rice: You write that Lyndon Johnson was not respectful to his Press Corp or to his Secret Service.
Tessler: Johnson was just totally out of control. One guy said that if this guy was not president, he would be in a mental hospital. He would urinate in front of female reporters at his ranch, he would sit on the toliet and defecate in front of his aids at the White House, he would have sex with his secretaries, with wives of friends, one time, Lady Bird caught him and he blew up at the Service for not notifying him…one time Johnson was running late for a meeting with JFK and he told the Secret Service to drive up on the sidewalk, where it was filled with people. The agent refused and Johnson rolled up a newspaper and hit him over the head and said, “You’re fired”. This is par for the course for Johnson.
Rice: You write about a little know incident where a President was protected and the Secret Service went out after would be assassins and there was a shot out, which history doesn’t really record.
Tessler: Yes, very few people are aware of this but when Truman was staying across the street from the White House, while it was being renovated. And two Puerto Rican nationalist basically tried to shot up the place and assassinate him…It was exactly what the Secret Service was trained to do…Truman was very serious about security, wheras JFK wasn’t as much. JFK didn’t want Secret Service agents on the back of his limo in Dallas, but had they been there, they would have been able to jump on him after the first bullet had been fired and they would have shielded him from the fatal bullet. Lincoln also did not want any security even though the Civil War was going on. Finally, before his assassination, he agreed to one police officer, but this one police officer decided to have a drink at the local tavern the night he was shot.
Rice: Some people resist having security and don’t take advantage of the extra security they offer. Do agents resent this imposition?
Tessler: Sure, Jenna Bush didn’t understand security, she would even run red lights to try to evade agents…one time she was in a bar with Henry Hagar, who is now her husband, in Georgetown and he almost got into a fight with some patrons and the agents had to intervene.
Another time he got so drunk at a Halloween party that they had to take him to the hospital, so definitely additional duties besides taking bullets for a president.
Rice: Who decides where the line is drawn when agents are called upon?
Tessler: They are trained to know that their duties are to protect and not to act as servants…they are not to carry luggage or carry grocery bags. They may from time to time offer to help, for example, Lynn Cheney.
Rice: It is a fascinating book that give light to those with significant authority and those who are called upon to protect them and some of the indignities they suffer in that process.
http://oregonfaithreport.com/2010/09/secret-life-of-those-agents-protecting-our-president/print
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SECRECY NEWS
from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy
Volume 2010, Issue No. 74
September 20, 2010
Secrecy News Blog: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/
** NEW FRUS VOLUME SHOWS DECLASS STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES<BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">** FORMER LOS ALAMOS PHYSICIST CHARGED WITH SELLING NUKE INFO<BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">** HOME FORECLOSURES AND SECURITY CLEARANCES
NEW FRUS VOLUME SHOWS DECLASS STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES
A new volume of the State Department's official Foreign Relations of the United States (FRUS) series on the war in Vietnam, published this month, embodies both the strengths and the weaknesses of the government document declassification program.
The new FRUS volume presents an exceptionally vivid and interesting account of the Nixon Administration's conduct of the war, beginning with the aftermath of the invasion of Cambodia. It also "documents President Nixon's penchant for secret operations and covert warfare." Several such secret operations "are documented in some detail to demonstrate the role of covert actions in support of overt political and military operations." See "Foreign Relations of the United States, 1969-1976, Volume VII, Vietnam, July 1970-January 1972," published September 8, 2010.
While the 1100 page volume (pdf) provides rich testimony to the value of the declassification process, it also highlights its surprising limitations.
For one thing, the process is painfully slow. Declassification review of this volume took four years, the Preface states, from 2006 to 2010. At that glacial rate, the State Department will never fulfill its statutory obligation to publish the record of U.S. foreign policy no later than 30 years after the fact.
What's worse is that U.S. government agencies continue to use an obsolete template for making declassification decisions. So while various covert actions are "documented in some detail," the amount of money spent on those same covert actions is scrupulously redacted at more than a dozen points with the parenthetical notation "dollar amount not declassified" -- as if the publication of these budget figures could possibly have any bearing on national security today.
Adding to the evident confusion, the dollar figures for covert action were nevertheless published in one of the documents (document 202 at page 617), which notes that "Funds in the amount of $235,000 for FY 1971 and $228,000 for FY 1972 were approved [for certain covert actions]."
Was this a declassification "error"? A publishing oversight? It's not clear.
Susan Weetman, the General Editor of the FRUS series, said that the publication decisions on covert actions were determined by the so-called "High Level Panel" (HLP) which is comprised of senior representatives of the State Department, CIA and National Security Council.
"While the release of some dollar amounts and the excision of others may appear inconsistent, it has been the policy of the HLP to approve the declassification of the overall budget figure for a covert action (occasionally broken out by fiscal year), but not release the specifics of how the money was spent," Ms. Weetman told Secrecy News.
In the present case, however, there is an unusual amount of detail about "how the money was spent." It's just the dollar figures that (in most cases) have been withheld.
The release of this FRUS volume, along with another volume on Vietnam published September 16, was timed to coincide with an upcoming State Department Office of the Historian conference on "The American Experience in Southeast Asia, 1946-1975".
One of the recurring themes in the Vietnam covert action volume is the prevalence of leaks of classified information, and the need to take drastic action to combat them.
"You will see leaks all over town in the next few weeks on this issue," Henry Kissinger told a group of Congressmen at a March 23, 1971 meeting "because the intelligence community is like a hysterical group of Talmudic scholars doing an exegesis of abstruse passages. If any of you are on an intelligence subcommittee, you might find this a good reason to cut the budget for the intelligence agencies," Kissinger suggested (at page 466).
FORMER LOS ALAMOS PHYSICIST CHARGED WITH SELLING NUKE INFO
A former Los Alamos nuclear weapons scientist, Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni, and his wife, Marjorie Mascheroni, were charged with conspiracy to communicate classified nuclear weapons information with the intent to injure the United States and conspiracy to develop an illict atomic bomb after they allegedly offered to provide assistance to a supposed Venezuelan nuclear weapons program.
"The conduct alleged in this indictment is serious and should serve as a warning to anyone who would consider compromising our nation's nuclear secrets for profit," said Assistant Attorney General Kris in a September 17 news release.
The underlying story is so twisted and psychologically fraught that it may never be completely clarified. Mascheroni has been a fervent advocate of his own concept of inertial confinement fusion, while relentlessly criticizing the existing ICF program as misconceived and destined to fail. He has tangled repeatedly with security officials over clearance and disclosure issues, but he has also found some influential supporters, including former Director of Central Intelligence R. James Woolsey, who provided him with legal representation on a pro bono basis.
According to the indictment (pdf), Mascheroni only thought of selling nuclear secrets (to an FBI agent he thought was a Venezuelan official) because he became increasingly frustrated with the United States government's unresponsiveness to his claims and concerns. The alleged turning point, the indictment says, came in 2007, when he attempted unsuccessfully to instigate a congressional hearing on "DOE-UC mismanagement of the nuclear stockpile, weapons programs, and national security." A copy of his 50-page proposal to Congress, of characteristic length and turgidity, is here (pdf).
"If those guys, the American government, doesn't give me this," he supposedly said, referring to the desired congressional hearing, "you know, I, I, the American government is going to be my enemy really."
"The public is reminded that an indictment contains allegations only and that every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty," the Justice Department properly noted in its news release on the case.
A 1995 Los Alamos report "edited by Marjorie Mascheroni" on environmental contamination at Los Alamos involving high-energy explosives is available here (pdf).
HOME FORECLOSURES AND SECURITY CLEARANCES
The crisis affecting the U.S. economy has made a discernible mark on security clearance disputes, according to a new study of clearance revocation cases.
"Since the collapse of the housing market in 2008, debt resulting from job losses and home foreclosures has had a devastating effect on people holding national security clearances. That, more than any other factor today, is causing the revocation or denial of security clearances, resulting in the loss of good paying jobs, and putting skilled workers further and further behind in their effort to dig out of debt."
The new study (pdf), by attorney Sheldon I. Cohen, examined cases before the Department of Defense Office of Hearings and Appeals (DOHA), which is the only one of the eleven clearance adjudicating bodies to publish its decisions. The author found a growing trend, though the actual number of cases involved remains fairly small.
"From 2000 to 2002, there was one reported case at DOHA dealing with foreclosure. Between 2003 and 2006, there averaged three cases per year. In 2007 and 2008, the number of cases dealing with foreclosures jumped to nine each year. In 2009, there were twenty-four such cases, and in the first five months of 2010, which looks like a record year, there have been nine foreclosure cases thus far. While DOHA is the only adjudicative body for clearances that publishes its decisions, there is no reason to believe that any of the other ten federal Adjudication Authorities come to different results."
See "Debt and Home Foreclosures: Their Effect on National Security Clearances" by Sheldon I. Cohen, September 2010.
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