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ANTII........
THEY TOOK SHOWN ,A MRS.THORNTON AS A HOSTAGE..she was released and no one harmed and the prisoners all re captured..i seem to recall, this is all i can find now in a folder.that is clarence gregory holding the gun on her....BDuring the trial of Jack Ruby,qv the killer of alleged Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald,qv five prisoners escaped from the county jail. Criticism was leveled on Dallas law enforcement as a result. -
Speech delivered by Cuban President Raul Castro at the main ceremony marking the "Victims of State Terrorism Day"
HAVANA, Cuba, Oct 6 (acn)ACN News Agency reproduces the full text of the speech delivered by Cuban President Raul Castro at the main ceremony marking the "Victims of State Terrorism Day", held in Havana.
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\''the right rear portion of the skull\'' MAY I SAY PAT, ANYONES......PUT YOUR HAND ON THE REAR OF YOUR HEAD, RIGHT REAR, OF YOUR SKULL, YOU GOT IT....
YOUR CHERRY NIT PICKING AGAIN,,,,,,,NO MATTER WHAT IT SEEMS THAT IS WHAT YOU DO..OR DO YOU SIMPLY WANT TO ARGUE FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUING, HUMBUG..OR SAYING YOU WON ANOTHER ONE, I REALLY AM BECOMING CURIOUS AS TO WHICH, IF I SAY BLACK WILL YOU SAY WHITE...???.
carry on as expected....
EXCUSE CAPS THANKS...B...http://educationforu...?showtopic=2349
http://www.maryferre...K_Assassination
http://www.assassina...web.com/ag6.htm
http://educationforu...opic=15373&st=0
""According to Dr. Robert Canada, who was at Bethesda, the reason the first report was burned and rewritten was because of that large avulsed wound in the rear of the skull. Canada went on to describe it as "clearly an exit wound" because "the occipital bone was avulsed outward." (Horne Vol 3, p. 928) When he was told that the autopsy report we have today describes only a small entrance wound in the rear skull, Canada replied that "the document had to have been rewritten to conform to the loan assassin thesis."[ (ibid)""
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16495&st=90
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Your welcome, pleased you know of him, and yes the first other than jackie to see the back right wound to the head was no other than clint hill...a hero, being the only man that really tried.and suffered so for many years for doing so...within this video i believe is shown some areas of the motorcade that we have not seen or rarely are shown, watch for them.....b
Secret Service Agent Clint Hill '2004
http://kentuckyhelp....nt-hill-04.html or
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JFK back of head part 1 to 3 synchronized assassination films. mimusremedium
JFK Back of Head - Part II - Occurrence of Hind Scalp Tear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igMVdcT3FCo&annotation_id=annotation_283681&feature=iv
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there are 8 videos in this mimusremedium collection..you will note the new fox simulation from the series ''bones'' is the old shot to the back of the head, :blink:from guess where... ..b
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Eye Hand Witnesses to the back of JFK's Head Wound Parkland into Coffin and at Bethesda..
Hi Bernice,
Thanks for posting this. Did you put this video together, or do you know who did? It is very clear from the evidence, and this showcases it, that witnesses who saw JFK's head in the aftermath of the shooting saw a wound in the right rear of the head.
One of the photos, of the gentleman laying on a gurney with a visible rubber wound in the right rear of the head, was one of my volunteers for a presentation I did at Lancer. I made the wound to the average approximate size noted by Parkland ... 7cm in diameter. I placed the wound on the head based on the Parkland description AND the autopsy diagram for that portion of the wound .... the medial edge is 1" right of the eop, and the bottom of the "wound" is slightly above the eop. Several volunteers took the roles of Parkland personnel around the gurney. All those at the head or on JFK's right noted they could clearly see a wound in the right rear of the head as the person wearing the wound lay supine on the gurney.
The old LN argument that Parkland people could not see a wound in the rear of the head because JFK was laying on his back is clearly as lame as it is trite. The wound, as noted, drawn and measured at autopsy for where it began and where it extended laterally and relative to the eop, was clearly large enough, and extended far enough lateral right, to be quite visible when a person is supine on a gurney. And Parkland people specified the wound they saw was on the *right* rear. Quite visible. (Note: this wound was not intended to show the entire extent of the wound as measured at autopsy, 10x17cm .... only to showcase the size and location of that portion of the wound noted by Parkland. I did have paper wounds available for people to see just how big a 10x17cm wound is .... and how much of the right half of the skull it would involve.)
Bests,
Barb :-)
HI; ON THE TOP LEFT OF THE VIDEO CLICK ANYWHERE ON SUCH, AFTER LOADED IT TAKES YOU DIRECTLY THERE, THE NAME IS mimusremedium's Channel ON THE RIGHT LOWER OF THE SCREEN, SHOWS THE OTHER VIDEOS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED UNDER THIS NAME..HE HAS ONE OTHER WHEN YOU CLICK HIS NAME THAT COMES UP, RE THE OCCIPITAL WOUND.I HAVE NO IDEA WHO HE IS,AND I ASSUME ALSO IT'S A HE.??..I RECOGNIZED THE PHOTO OF THE MAN LYING DOWN BUT COULD NOT PLACE IT, NOW I RECALL, IT WAS FROM YOUR RESEARCH, TO ME IT SHOWED ABOUT WHAT DR.McCLELLAND ALWAYS STOOD BY AS TO WHERE THE BACK OF THE HEAD WOUND WAS AND SHOWN IN HIS DRAWING....WITHIN THE WITNESSES AT PARKLAND THERE SIMPLY WERE TOO MANY WHO REPORTED SUCH TO SIMPLY DISMISS ALL THEIR INFORMATION, BUT AS WITH OTHER WITNESSES SOME DO, IT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN WITHIN THE RESEARCH I ALWAYS HAVE THOUGHT ''THEY WERE THERE AND I WAS NOT'' SO I GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT...TAKE CARE..B PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS...THANKS...
HERE IS HIS OTHER VIDEO...
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Vince Salandria http://educationforu...opic=4186&st=30
By Jim DiEugenio
probe v4 n2 http://www.ctka.net/pr197-left.html
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Thanks for these Bernice.
your welcome, take care..b
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HOW THE PENTAGON MADE A BEST SELLER......OPERATION DARK HEART: THE AFTERMATH
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OPERATION DARK HEART: THE AFTERMATH
The Pentagon's heavy-handed attempt to censor the new Afghanistan war memoir "Operation Dark Heart" by Anthony Shaffer has predictably turned a volume of narrow, specialized interest into a mainstream bestseller.
It has also focused attention on just what information the government was seeking to conceal, and why. For a review of the material that was blacked out in the second edition of the book, see "Censored book masks sensitive operations" by Sean D. Naylor, Army Times, October 4. A side-by-side view of the book's Index, in censored and uncensored formats, is here (pdf).
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Vince Salandria http://educationforu...opic=4186&st=30
By Jim DiEugenio
probe v4 n2 http://www.ctka.net/pr197-left.html
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History Will Not Absolve Us: A Review
by John Kelinhttp://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/14th_issue/history.html
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Eye Hand Witnesses to the back of JFK's Head Wound Parkland into Coffin and at Bethesda..
Thanks, Bernice. The video makes some good points, the best one being that the witnesses DID NOT see a hole on the MIDDLE of the back of the head. This suggests that the Harper fragment was NOT occipital bone, and that those claiming it was, e.g. Mantik, are as at odds with the Parkland witnesses as those claiming there was no hole on the back of the head at all.
it does make a very clear point of a hole exactly where most of the witnesses placed their hand...and where the zapruder flm shows a black blotch on the film showing the back of his head..thanks take care b..
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Thank you, Tom. (I googled but couldn't find) Ok, So, he must gave been working with the USPO since 1924. Interesting. Another oddity re early history to ponder.
john try tom's link in his post, http://news.google.c...s+bundles&hl=en
Dallas Postal Inspector Slips Up on Detail
the article it's right there on the left.when it comes up....b
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HEMMING 1995:
Well that just tells me HOWARD probably recruited OSWALD. He had a habit of doing that, he was trying to set up his own organization. Which he did with Hall, when Hall showed up he recruited Hall. When these people go home they're working for whoever they're working for. HOWARD was not setting OSWALD up, he was finding out where he was coming from. The guy shows up on the scene and you're working as an informant for Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms or anybody else you're expected to fill out a goddamn index card on who this sucker is, try to get a copy of his prints and everything else.
Since GPH nrings up this agency - or this set of law enforcement areas - in word-association when considering Oswald, let me try something less subconscious:
Alcohol gives Oswald an entree to spook Richard Case Nagell, whose cover job was once as a California alcohol violations officer.
Firearms The Klein's Sporting Goods investigation, which Nagell intimated that he had been a part of.
Nagell may have been filling out file cards on Oswald in these areas as well. But which Oswald?
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Harry - if you're thinking of Bugliosi's Charles "Tex" Watson, he would have been in his early high school years in 1963, yes? If there's another Tex in Helter Skelter (or somebody pretending to be Tex Watson) - I've forgotten it, sorry. If I'm missing something, I'd like to check it out.
Yes, there are many government subagencies out there besides the big boys - FBI, SS, CIA, DIA, Army, USMC, ONI and State and the smaller ones we know of - California Alochol (Nagell), Immigration and Naturlizaton (Border Patrol/Customs), the Post Office (Holmes), Firearms (Mason), Dodd Committee (Congress), Texas Rangers, Dallas Sheriff (Decker), Dallas County (DAWade), State Citizens Councils, Texas Fish & Game (TSBD), as well as their little front orgs like FPCC, JBS, KKK, DRE, A66, OP40, Red Cross (Paley), CUSA (Schmidt), and Tolstoy Foundation (Bouhe/Raoridsky), each keeping its own set of files.
Bannister's files have an interesting history, and we know how E. Howard Hunt set up the Mexico City CIA files (as maintained by Scott), and as they testified to before the Warren Commission, when Oswald first returned from USSR, he was met by Traveler's Aid, who I just learned was an organization that included Mrs. Charles Cabel on their board, and were first adopted by George Bouhe and Paul Raorodsky, who were indentifed during their Warren Commission testimony as the treasurer who took care of the money and "kept the files on the newcomers" to their little nework that was financed by the Tolstoy Foundation (CIA) and fell under the umbrella of their parish of the Russian Orthodox Church (Catherwood Fund).
It seems like each of these organizatoins had files on Oswald and his wife, some rather lengthly ones, though what was in them and how much they shared has never been determined.
We also know pretty much how the files were kept, beginning with a name or subject on an index car, and a file begun if it appears twice, and a 201 file if the subject is considered a player. And if there's an incident requiring reports to be filed or newspaper clips, a chronological file is also begun.
We do have some of Bannister's index cards, and the JFK Act sprung some index cards and files (Oswald's post assassination 201 file is 20 some volumes), but JPH's description of how a file is begun on a new person who enters the scene or player who enters the game, is the way all of these orgs operated and maintained intelligence files, both before and after the assassintion.
And although most of those files were deliberatly kept from inclusion in the JFK Assassination Records Collection at the NARA, manyof them are still out there, and from them, and living witnesses, we should be able to figure out who "Tex" was.
Of course it appears there are two guys in the game named "Tex," one who is over 6' 2" and appeared in anti-Castro Cuban circles in Florida, and the guy who showed up in Southern California and mingled with Hall, Howard, Hemming, Harry and friends, and who dry fired rifles and won bar bets by rappelling down elevator shafts. There's no way this guy didn't make it into the subversives files or wasn't positively identified by somebody.
But besides the "Tex" in Southern California - the one we're most interested in, and the tall one who was in Florida, and Charlie Manson's pal, there must be hundreds of guys nicknamed "Tex" out there, or if I was from Texas I'd say there's a million of them. Whenever anybody from Texas enteres a new group he's automatically nicknamed "Tex," but our "Tex" is not only from Texas, but is also ex-military, and was mixed up with Hall and Seymore, two guys who are named in the Warren Report. Just because they didn't bother to identify him doesn't mean that we can't.
Harry, how tall was your "Tex,"
And did you get his fingerprints like GPH says?
No? You're slouching Harry.
But if the "Tex" from Manson murder checks out you get a few Brownie Points and a feather for your cap.
BK
tex watson yesterday and today google photos..there are many, many b
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Bill here are a few of the elevators, i believe there are more hiding, I will see...best b
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here are a few photos of a few of them, originally from james.richards...b
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Thanks Michael ;
David here is a copy of Groden's bdgm in Betzner ROBIN HAD POSTED IT IN THE PAST FOR us..
and the Groden zoomed in Moorman of bdgm
fwiw..b
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The History Channel is all about UFOs and Nazis. They even had a show called "Nazi UFOs." And don't forget the Nostradamous marathons.
Kathy C
:lol:We do not get it up here any longer as we once did, unless you pay extra for it on your cable bill, no thanks..
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Washington, DC, October 4, 2010 - For nearly a year before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the British government of Prime Minister Tony Blair collaborated closely with the George W. Bush administration to produce a far starker picture of the threat from Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) than was justified by intelligence at the time, according to British and American government documents posted today by the National Security Archive.
With the aim of strengthening the political case for going to war, both governments regularly coordinated their assessments, the records show, occasionally downplaying and even eliminating points of disagreement over the available intelligence. The new materials, acquired largely through the U.K. Freedom of Information Act and often featuring less redacted versions of previously released records, also reveal that the Blair administration, far earlier than has been appreciated until now, utilized public relations specialists to help craft the formal intelligence "white papers" about Iraq's WMD program.
At one point, even though intelligence officials were skeptical, the British went so far as to incorporate in their white paper allegations about Saddam's nuclear ambitions because they had been made publicly by President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
The documents also show that:
* From early 2002 both governments were seeking regime change, but Prime Minister Blair and his officials were very conscious of the need to make a case for war, based on claims about Iraqi WMDs.
* From March 2002--the very beginning of the process--the U.S. and U.K. administrations were concerned to achieve consistency in their claims about Iraqi weapons, often at the cost of accuracy. In the spring of 2002 the two countries began to produce in parallel the white papers on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction that they published that fall. At least two drafts of the respective white papers were exchanged from either side in order to avoid providing grist for "opponents of action."
* Officials working on the parallel papers took part in a number of secure video conferences to avoid inconsistencies between the documents. Both sides accelerated the drafting of their white papers in September 2002 as part of a coordinated propaganda effort.
* Officials re-drafting the U.K.'s white paper or "dossier" in September 2002 were told to ensure that it "complemented" rather than contradicted claims in the U.S. document. A draft of the U.K. dossier was brought to Washington by intelligence chief John Scarlett for U.S. input.
* In addition, U.K. officials examined the draft U.S. white paper closely and sought to match its claims. The U.S. paper has been described by one of its authors as intended "to strengthen the case of going to war with the American public."
* The U.K. white paper was amended to incorporate a number of claims about Saddam's alleged nuclear ambitions that intelligence officials found questionable but were included because President Bush and Vice President Cheney made public reference to them, for example the allegation that Iraq could obtain a nuclear weapon within a brief one- or two-year timeframe.
* The U.S. paper, which had omitted the same claims from an early draft, also included them after the President and Vice President's public references to them.
* In addition, the U.K. dossier was heavily influenced by Blair advisers and public relations experts, including Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of communications. Its drafters were also willing to change it to fit in with public statements from British government advisers, whether or not those statements were true.
Visit the Archive's Web site for more information about today's posting.
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Eye Hand Witnesses to the back of JFK's Head Wound Parkland into Coffin and at Bethesda..
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Kennedy Assassination House Committee Assassinations Conclude JFK and MLK Conspiracies 12 30 1978 NBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHNQdL9eImM&feature=player_embedded
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The Memories--JFK, 1961-1963, of Cecil Stoughton, the President's Photographer, and Major General Chester V. Clifton, the President's Military Aide (Hardcover) If you're looking for some splendid (and rare) photographs of President John F. Kennedy and family, then this richly-detailed book should certainly be given due consideration.
"The Memories -- JFK -- 1961-1963" is a 200-page hardcover volume that is loaded with top-quality images of JFK, the First Lady (Jacqueline Kennedy), and the two young Kennedy children (John Jr. and Caroline). Every picture in this publication (save one) was taken by official White House photographer Cecil Stoughton, who snapped hundreds (if not thousands) of shots of the good-looking First Family during the "Camelot" years, which spanned precisely 1,037 days, beginning with President Kennedy's memorable inauguration on the snowy Washington afternoon of January 20, 1961 .... and ending tragically at just about the same time of day (noontime) nearly three years later, on November 22, 1963, when JFK was shot and killed in an assassination attempt while riding in a motorcade through the crowded city streets of Dallas, Texas.
But those 1,037 days of JFK's truncated Presidential term still provided Mr. Stoughton many opportunities to keep his camera's shutter busy. And a great number of those pics are presented in this volume (some in color).
I mentioned that just one photo in the book was not taken by Stoughton -- that one being a shot of Stoughton himself, snapped by 2-year-old John Kennedy Jr. (pretty good pic, too, by the amateur Kennedy photog).
In addition to Mr. Stoughton's superb camera work and heartfelt captions and recollections of being in the Kennedy "inner circle", this book also contains the remembrances of President Kennedy's military aide, Major General Chester V. Clifton. The book is narrated by "Time-Life" correspondent Hugh Sidey, who was a close friend of the Kennedys.
Among the many photos enriching these pages are some very rarely-published images of the "family living quarters" on the second floor of the White House. There's also a charming two-page photo spread showing Jackie (and offspring) riding in a small horse-drawn sleigh on the White House lawn. That exquisite photo would make an ideal Christmas postcard, especially if a color version of the photo exists, which I am unsure of. It's printed in black-and-white here.
The cover photo used for the hardback edition of this title -- showing a very relaxed-looking President Kennedy, wife Jackie, and their two children -- I have heard was one of Jacqueline Kennedy's favorite pictures ever taken of the First Family by Mr. Stoughton. (It's one of my personal favorites, too.) That's a cropped version of that photo on the cover; but the book also includes a full-sized (and full-page) version, also in color, which occupies all of Page #190.
In 1980, a paperback re-issue edition was released, with a different cover image. The softcover version depicts JFK and brother Robert Kennedy on the front cover.
The hardcover edition's first printing was in 1973, coinciding with the tenth anniversary date of JFK's assassination. This large book, published by W.W. Norton & Co. of New York, has a "coffee table" quality to it, with high quality paper stock used for its 200 pages.
I've owned this book for many years now, and hadn't re-visited its contents for quite some time until just recently. Upon re-examining these pages, the obvious devotion and fondness that Mr. Stoughton, Mr. Clifton, and Mr. Sidey had for John Kennedy and the First Family during those magical days in the early 1960s becomes readily apparent via the stellar photographs and sincere text and captions that adorn each page. I found myself enjoying this material just as much as I had years ago. It was like seeing it for the very first time.
This is a very "personal" book about the Kennedys. There are no "conspiracy theories" espoused here, and no talk of JFK's political enemies. Instead, what we get are the firsthand reflections of three of Jack Kennedy's friends, via a brief amount of text and lots and lots of captivating photographic images.
The grace, elegance, sophistication, style, and humor of the Kennedy White House years are vividly realized and illustrated in this sleek and well-done publication.
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The ceremony was over within half a minute. The President ordered Air Force One back to Washington, and those remaining in Dallas left the plane, Stoughton among them. He would stay to have his unprocessed film developed and sent out via the wire services. When Kilduff handed Stoughton the Dictabelt recording of the oath of office, the captain felt that he had been made totally responsible for history's record of this momentous event. The visible continuity of the Republic had been accomplished. The government continued. And Stoughton was carrying the proof.
For the best vantage in the cramped cabin, Stoughton climbed onto a sofa near the rear.No one was allowed to enter or leave the airstrip until Air Force One took off. Just about the time the plane became airborne at 2:47 P.M., a press bus from Parkland arrived on the scene. The pool reporter Sid Davis, who had been aboard during the swearing-in, described the event to the other reporters who gathered around him. A nickel was flipped to see which bureau would process the undeveloped pictures. AP won the toss. After a dash to the Dallas Morning News Building, where the AP office was located, the film was handed over to a technician. Stoughton went into the darkroom with him. "Even though there was nothing 1 could do, 1 just wanted to be there when it came out. And when he held it up to the light, I could see some images, and then I breathed. I was turning blue up to that point."
One of the four Hasselblad prints of the oath-taking was chosen as the picture to send over the wire. It was agreed that the photo would not be sent out until a duplicate copy had been delivered to UPl for its distribution. Both wire services gave Capt. Cecil Stoughton photo credit, and his picture was rapidly reproduced in newspapers and shown on television around the world.
http://www.americanh...988_7_142.shtml
david's review scroll downhttp://www.amazon.co...r/dp/0393086828
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JFK - Civil Rights - June 11, 1963 - Part 1/2
civil rights division home pagehttp://www.justice.gov/crt/crim/mlk/jpg4a.php
..cannot even watch it accidently.. b
Whereabouts of Mr. Hudson
in JFK Assassination Debate
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it this it Jack ??THE JACK GARY MOORMAN FBI PRINT...I AM NoT SURE IF THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS of SUBJECT.....best b