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OF LATE THE GIFS I POST DO NOT MOVE WITHIN THEY POST AS SIMPLY A STILL PHOTO, ALSO I NOW MUST SIGN IN EACH AND EVERY TIME I COME TO THE FORUM, I DO NOT MND BUT I HAVE NOT HAD TO FOR YEARS, YES I HAVE THE LITTLE NOTCH FILLED IT TO REMEMBER ME, I WONDER IF I HAVE CHANGED ANYTHING ACCIDENTALLY IN MY SETTINGS HERE ON THE FORUM, AND,, IF SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD TAKE A MINUTE TO SEE WHAT I HAVE MUCKED UP AND SET IT UP CORRECTLY, OR LET ME KNOW WHAT I AM DOING WRONG WHEN I POST A GIF:blink:.... AND AS ALWAYS I WILL VENTURE TO DO BETTER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS, NIGHT TIME. ..TAKE CARE B..
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HI DAVID, YOUR WELCOME, THERE WAS A STUDY I BELIEVE AT Lancer some time ago, on hudson in relation to willis 5, i did a search thought i may have saved part but nothing came up from the dungeon, but i think it was done by bill miller showing in willis 5 that just shows him, partially,behind the pole, that he was lined up with in that photo, and i no longer could find that research photo either, i guess the gremlin got the munchies, but much came up on hudson from the past but not that of course, mrs murphy's law...here is a slow mo gif showing the steps fwiw, and yes hudson, would have had to have walked past the bdmn wall, thought he may not have paid any attention to anyone there at that time as so many were and had gathered in the park area, yes that looks about right in your map for hm to have gone from the shed to the steps.also a crop from willis bdmn not showing him on the steps, ..take care b..
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http://www.jfk-fr.com/en/bio_264.php ssa george w.hickey
George Hickey (Secret Service agent, in the follow-up car), November 22,
1963: “Just prior to the shooting I was seated in the rear of [the followup
car] on the left side. As [the Presidential limousine] made the turn
and proceeded a short distance I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker
exploded to the right and rear.” [statement: 18H765]
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http://www.ctka.net/2009/huffpo.html
here is a photo of the position of the rifle re dem.. the Baron fwit .if sqeamish...walk on by....b
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the pdf is too large to upload but here is a link...b Cram ; of moles and molehunters..
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol38no5/pdf/v38i5a15p.pdf
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Bernice:
Robert Parry is one of the few in the liberal blogosphere that publishes respectable material on the JFK case.
He printed an abridged version of my Family of Secrets review.
My take on the whole so-called New Media which is looking suspiciously like the Old Media.
thanks jim will read up on it and thanks for the uptodate history lesson...take care...b
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thanks fellas for the information, and history lessons, especially aimed at the youth, here i believe is another for their folders...thanks take care b...
http://the-puzzle-palace.com/112205a.html consortiumnews.com
The Enduring JFK Mystery
By Lisa Pease
November 22, 2005
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James Douglass U.S. speaking tour; Douglass is under contract with Orbis Books (in conjunction with Simon & Schuster) for publication of a trilogy, on the political assassinations of the 1960's, including those of JFK, RFK, Malcolm X, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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DAVID HE IS NOT SEEN IN WILLIS 5 AS FAR AS I KNOW BUT ...I WILL POST A FEW THERE ARE MANY MORE, SEE WHAT YOU THINK...B
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DAVID THIS MAY BE OF SOME HELP, THE FBI STATEMENT BY EMMET HUDSON, WHERE HE REFERS TO THE TWO OTHER MEN WHO WERE PRESENT WITH HIM, FYI BEFORE YOU GET TANGLED IF, IN THAT MORASS.....HE DOES STATE THERE WERE TWO OTHER MEN WITH HIM, ....EXCUSE CAPS PLEASE THAT TIME OF NIGHT...THANKS...B
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Dutchman Helmer Reenberg has put together an excellent series of documentaries on many of the Dealey Plaza witnesses with a lot of good films and photos that I've never seen before.
At the very end of this one: TSBD Employees Part 2, in frames 648 - to the end,
there's Oswald and Lovelady in the same photo frame. Reenberg is refering to Lovelady being at the front door of the TSBD
and following Truly and Baker back into the building. He implies that the photo was taken then, but on closer examination,
it appears that the photo was taken later at DPD HQ. Is that right? If anybody knows?
Reenberg also features a Movie theater Newsreel of the Ruby trial in which the announcer refers to the murder of Harvey Lee Oswald.
There's a lot of good stuff here.
Does anybody know Reenberg or anything about him?
Thanks,
BK
Bill, I didn't see anything about Lovelady following Truly and Baker back into the building. I didn't see where
Reenberg implied that picture was taken inside the Depository.
Lovelady didn't even know the President had been shot until Gloria Calvary told him. Lovelady and Bill Shelley then
went toward the railroad tracks. Lovelady said he was 15 to 25 steps from the Depository when he looked back and
saw Truly enter the building. Lovelady got to the railroad tracks and due to the commotion decided he should return.
He entered the Depository through the back door which apparently had not yet been secured.
I'm not at home to check but that picture looks identical (or similar) to one published in With Malice.
Of course it is police headquarters. Oswald was just being led in.
As far as Reenberg, all I know is he has a website: http://dealeyplaza.home.webname.dk/
http://www.youtube.com/HelmerReenberg
Don't you Google?
michael ;
that is julia postal in the photo,at the dpd station, the ticket seller at the texas theatre...b
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http://www.cooleston...uys-And-A-Jeep/
so shoot me....or remind me whatever... :blink:
wonder how much they would charge for labour at your local station.... b
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September 27 – Ex-US Air Force officers hold a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC to announce that they were worried that UFOs ... UN Wants Mazlan Othman To Take Care Of UFOs & Nukes? http://www.techjackal.net/space/2010/09/27/un-wants-mazlan-othman-to-take-care-of-ufos-nukes/
U.N. names Mazlan Othman Alien - UFO ambassador
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Inside the Capitol: Unlimited conspiracy theories - Carlsbad Current-Argus
Inside the Capitol: Unlimited conspiracy theories
From the Current-Argus
Posted: 09/25/2010 08:55:36 PM MDT
Jay Miller
Today is the anniversary of the 1964 release of the Warren Commission Report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
It isn't an occasion we observe but it is momentous in that it spawned scores of books and studies questioning the findings of that commission.
The Warren Report initially met with acceptance by the American public but subsequent investigations disputing the commission's findings have resulted in surveys showing as much as 80 percent of Americans having misgivings about the report.
Kennedy's assassination, for some reason, was accompanied by numerous other political assassinations or attempted assassinations both here and abroad.
The other assassinations included Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jack Ruby, Medgar Evers and Malcolm X. Gov. George Wallace was wounded for life and shots were fired at President Gerald Ford.
This rash of assassinations and attempts resulted in the creation of a U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1976. It held hearings for three years and in 1979 concluded that the assassinations primarily were by lone gunmen and not part of a conspiracy.
In the murder of President Kennedy, however, the House committee found both the original FBI investigation and the Warren Commission Report to be seriously flawed. It concluded that there was a "high probability" that two gunmen fired at the President and it was probable that a conspiracy existed. It is unlikely we will learn much more about President Kennedy's death in future years unless we hear some deathbed confessions. We haven't heard any of those in the past 47 years so it's getting less and less likely.
Conspiracies are difficult to cover up. That is why the simplest explanation is usually the best. In this case, the simplest explanation is the lone gunman theory. Of course, that requires a two lone gunmen theory since one also has to conclude that Jack Ruby, who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, also acted out of completely personal motivations.
It is the hurried and botched investigations by the FBI and Warren Commission that leave so many questions unanswered.
American leaders were anxious to get the country back to normal as quickly as possible in order to allay any fears that more attacks were coming. So a quick investigation leading to a conclusion that there was no conspiracy was thought to be the answer.
But too many questions were left open. It also hurt the commission's credibility that the public does not want to believe that our nation's leader can be picked off by a two-bit malcontent.
That had been the case with previous presidential assassinations and attempted assassinations except for the first one. Several people were convicted and executed for involvement in the killing of President Abraham Lincoln. And that is remembered.
The Kennedy assassination wasn't the only time the government has made matters worse with an investigation appearing to reveal less than the truth.
The famous 1947 crash at Roswell produced an Army news release saying a flying saucer had been captured. That was followed the next day by an explanation that it was only a weather balloon.
That explanation was accepted by the American public for more than 30 years until people who had been involved began coming forward with information that the material recovered didn't look like a flying saucer or a weather balloon.
The current government story now is that it was a secret spy balloon being tested. Then, on the 50th anniversary of the crash, the military announced that the bodies were test dummies being dropped from airplanes. Bodies? Who said anything about bodies?
The probability is zero that whatever fell near Roswell was from another planet. It was probably something being tested by the German scientists who were shooting off rockets at what then was called White Sands Proving Grounds.
This was a test that didn't prove out and the Pentagon was so anxious to cover it up that any explanation would suffice. And it would produce unlimited conspiracy theories.
Jay Miller can be reached via e-mail at insidethecapitol@hotmail.com
Could this be a prequil to the UFO Press Conference at the National Press Club tomorrow?
When I first tried to get Congresional hearings on the JFK Act, many years ago, I was just handing out leaflets to Congressional offices with a half dozen other COPA members.
At the same time, the very same week, the UFO Disclosure Project held a very well attended press conference at the National Press Club that was even carried by CSPAN, of all former military officers who were requesting Congress to hold hearings on the UFOs.
I was sure they were doing it just to take attention away from me and my friends who thought we could do something by leafleting congressmen.
I don't think they got the hearings they wanted either, but the idea that they were so much more organized and funded really bothered me.
It is also interesting that the first UFO conference sponsored by the CIA included a briefing by two officers from the US Navy Photo Interpretation Center, an analysis of two films of UFOs that they concluded were not lights, planes or swamp gas, but something they could not explain. This briefing led the CIA to hire away the Navy NPIC top brass to form the CIA's Natonal Photo Interpretation Center, that we now know of from the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Z-film.
In any case, I think Jay Miller is correct in his analysis that the whole deal was a psych war operation designed to hide the Nazi rocket boys and the development and operational security of the U2 and other high tech defense systems.
BKelly
hi bill here is the news today..on a conference fwiw thanks ..b War of the worlds: UFO Press Conference posts new findingshttp://thebrilliantstories.com/war-of-the-worlds-ufo-press-conference-posts-new-findings/451365/
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Mighty fine words there Jim, as said the best in quite some time..,,,thank you... b
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some documentation from the mary ferrell site...fwtaw..might be of interested to some..take care...b
the released files:
- A transcript of a phone call between President Johnson and FBI Director Hoover from the morning after the assassination, wherein Hoover informed LBJ that Oswald was impersonated in Mexico City. The tape of this phone call has been erased.
- In response to a cable reporting Oswald's call to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City, CIA HQ cabled back false information about Oswald to its own CIA station there. One of the cabling officers said in 1995: "I'm signing off on something I know isn't true," and said this indicated "a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need to know basis."
- Acknowledgment by the CIA that at least one defector to the Soviet Union was part of a false defector program.
- Revelations of CIA relationships with many of the "independent" writers on the case, including Priscilla Johnson, Hugh Aynesworth, writers at the Miami Herald, and others. In New Orleans grand jury testimony, Marina Oswald stated that the Secret Service warned her to stay away from Ruth Paine, who was "sympathizing with the CIA. She wrote letters over there..."
- Capt. Will Fritz' contemporaneous notes of an interview with Oswald on Nov 22, in which Oswald provided an alibi for his whereabouts at lunch.
- A contact report from Dr. Burkley's lawyer to the HSCA, saying that his client (JFK's personal physician) had information that "others besides Oswald must have participated."
- Documents showing that the HSCA had tested the Navy camera which was supposed to have taken JFK's autopsy photographs, and it failed the authenticity tests.
- HSCA interviews of autopsy witnesses directly contradicting the depictions of wounds presented by the medical panel; the interviews were suppressed and misrepresented by the HSCA.
- A sworn interview with Saundra Kay Spencer, who developed the JFK autopsy photos, in which she declared that the photos in the Archives are not the ones she developed. Autopsy photographer John Stringer similarly disavowed the supplemental autopsy brain photographs.
- Papers on "Operation Northwoods," a proposed program to initiate real and simulated attacks on the U.S. and blame them on Castro, as a pretext for invading Cuba.
- Plans for the complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Vietnam drawn up in the spring of 1963.
Lyndon Johnson.The declassification of tapes of Lyndon Johnson's phone calls, along with other documents, provided an explanation for why the Warren Commission might have engaged in a cover-up: to prevent World War III. Johnson continually refers in phone calls to "foreign complications" (allegations of Communist conspiracy, mainly emanating from Mexico City) and that the lives of "40 million Americans" were at stake. He told Senator Russell that he had finally convinced Earl Warren to head the Commission because of "what Hoover told me about a little incident in Mexico City." (audio)
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your welcome peter;
on a replay, i took heed of this this information also on the RFK video....
the feud carried right on to the very end and past after bobby's death apparently.....b
lbj tried to block rfk's being buried in arlington, nor would he sign the appropriation papers. he was finally convinced by some around him,to allow the burial at arlington, but it took republican president richard nixon to finally sign the papers, yes he must have grinned...if i had read this in the past i must have forgotten, but have now found reference to it all over the web, in a search, it also appears within several books on lbj....
In June 1968, Robert Kennedy was shot by a deranged Arab nationalist in Los Angeles. As the Senator lay dying, Johnson went on national television to express his ''shock'' and ''dismay.'' That evening, Johnson repeatedly phoned the Secret Service to ask if Kennedy had died. He paced the floor for hours, phone in hand, muttering: ''I've got to know. Is he dead? Is he dead yet?'' This, sadly, was not the end of it. Though Johnson promised Kennedy's family to do ''anything I can do to help,'' he delayed their lone request -- to finance a permanent grave site for the Senator at Arlington National Cemetery, next to his brother John's. In 1969, a new President took the appropriate steps. As he signed the final authorization, Richard Nixon, who knew a thing or two about political grudges, must have smiled.print out interview with ShesolNICHOLAS KATZENBACH ON RFK AND LBJ VIDEO FROM ANSWERS .COM VIDEOS -
University World News - UK: Belfast historian sheds light on secret service
Monday, September 27, 2010 http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20100925155518821
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Inside the Capitol: Unlimited conspiracy theories - Carlsbad Current-Argus
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Sir Compton Mackenzie escaped prison in espionage row - Telegraph
Monday, September 27, 2010 2:45 AM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/8026101/Sir-Compton-Mackenzie-escaped-prison-in-espionage-row.html
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Was Lyndon Johnson Unstable? - TIME; http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,968364,00.html
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thank you Don, appreciate your site..great work.....take care...and carry on...b
Hear No Evil by Don Thomas
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by Bernice Moore
JOHN ,IF, THIS ENDS YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITHIN THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESEARCH OF THE PAST AND THIS FORUM AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SO MANY TO PARTICIPATE, NOW PLEASE EXCUSE AN OLE GAL, BUT WHO THE H DOES GARY OR ANY OTHER WITHIN SAID GROUP GET OFF TELLING ANYONE THEY MUST APOLOGIZE, WHEN DID THEY MAKE FORUM GOD STATICE,,IMO, YOU ARE PERHAPS DOING EXACTLY WHAT GARY POO AND DALE PLANNED OUT HOPING YOU WOULD DO, DROP OUT,AFTER BEING DROPPED FROM SAID GROUP, SNEAKY YES, WELL IMO THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST AND THEY WILL BE IN THE FUTURE, AND THE OTHERS IN THIS GROUP WITHIN THE EMAILS ARE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE THAT THIS HAS NOT OCCURRED TO THEM, AND WHY NOT ??JUST MY 2 CENTS, BUT SOMETHING SMELLS LIKE POO ....TAKE CARE, AND STAY WELL, BEST B......