Zach Robertson

Zach,

Try googling "Richard Case Nagell" and "Henry Hecksher" and Raynock together at the same time.

--Tommy

Tommy,

Thanks for reviving this classic thread. When I do as you say I get Larry Hancock's great blog. I believe this was the 2nd entry from 18 December 2011:

Richard Case Nagell

I believe Nagell referred to Hecksher [Raynock] as "Bob."

Zach

Here is a very interesting article on Rolando. The text was in Spanish and the translation is not completely fluid, but you get the idea:

http://baracuteycubano.blogspot.com/2010/08/eugenio-rolando-martinez-habla-del-caso.html

ROLANDO EUGENIO MARTINEZ "Musculito"

Watergate • THAT CAUSED THE RESIGNATION OF RICHARD NIXON

Note from blogger

In http://archivo.laprensa.com.ni Iliana de la Guardia says that in 1977 Antonio "Tony" Guard is responsible to infiltrate into Cuba and then smuggle former CIA agent, Rolando Eugenio Martinez, known as "Musculito" I read somewhere that Eugenio Rolando Martinez on that visit he met with Fidel Castro, if I remember it utiizó to the Cayman Islands to reach Cuba by boat.

******************

In http://eichikawa.com of August 9, 2010 This article refers to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo

http://www.elmundo.es

USA | One of the Cuban-Americans involved

'I do not regret my role in Watergate'

Manuel Aguilera Cristóbal |

Sunday 19/07/2009

"I wanted to overthrow Castro and unfortunately knocked the president who was helping us, to Richard Nixon." Rolando Eugenio Martinez describes himself as a frustrated. At 86 years does not regret his past as a 'plumber' of the 'Watergate' but regrets that he lost that and many other battles. Born in Artemisa, Cuba, had to flee in times of Batista. He returned home and fled the revolution of Fidel Castro to return to suffer another defeat in the attempt to Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.

But what made him a "sorry" as he described, occurred the night of June 17, 1971 at 2:30 am in the morning. Rolando Martinez, alias 'Musculito', was arrested along with Virgilio Gonzalez, Bernard Baker, James McCord and Frank Sturgis inside the Democratic National Committee offices in the complex of buildings 'Watergate', in Washington.

It was the beginning of the political-journalistic adventure greatest ever told, it has generated countless articles, books and movies. Martinez still justified, 38 years later, the reasons for the assault that took him to jail with his comrades os: "We were going to steal documents showing that Castro was financing the campaign of Democrat McGovern."

(Eugenio Rolando Martinez exhibits a presidential pardon granted by Reagan. | M. Aguilera)

The four 'plumbers' from Miami who accompanied McCord, the security chief of the Committee for re-election of Nixon, not surprised that they recruit for this operation. All had worked for the CIA and as 'Musculito' "the sympathy of the Democratic candidate to the Cuban dictator was known by all. He had traveled to Cuba several times and had been seen together watching baseball games." Searching for evidence, he says, "the interference of a foreign country in choosing a U.S. president."

The start of operations of Martinez and his fellow Cuban-Americans in President Nixon's direct dependence began with all the trappings of spy films.

On April 17, 1971 was held in Miami the tenth anniversary of the landing at Playa Giron, the failed attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro carried out by 1,500 Cuban exiles supported by CIA. That day, Bernard Baker, Martinez's best friend, found a note on the door of his house: "If you're still the man I knew, come see me." The text was signed by Howard Hunt, an old acquaintance of both for his role in the operation that day was commemorated.

Hunt was responsible for political action by the Agency and played a key role in the overthrow of Arbenz as president of Guatemala in 1954. After visiting the memorial to the members of Brigade 2506, died in his fight against Fidel Castro, the three men were eating. "You are going to be active again," he snapped Hunt mysterious. The offer was part of a unit of the White House, personally led by Richard Nixon. In case there was some reluctance, Hunt reassures them that the CIA was aware of the creation of this group of actors who would work under the orders of the president. After 12 years working for intelligence agencies work of infiltration, sabotage, kidnapping, espionage etc. flattered Rolando Martinez: "I thought it was a promotion for me."

(Martinez walks handcuffed after Barker in 1973. | AP)

Within a few weeks 'Musculito' Baker and his friend were already down to work. "At first we investigate everyone who wanted to meet with Nixon," he says. Then came other missions that broke the law again and again. Like when they broke into the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg. Ellsberg had leaked to the New York Times' Pentagon documents about the war in Vietnam. "We wanted her psychiatrist reports to confirm whether he too had passed information to the Soviet Embassy and to know what their motivations."

On May 2, 1972, a month before the raid on the headquarters of the Democrats, the body of John Edgar Hoover, who had been director of the FBI since 1935, was exhibited in the rotunda of the Capitol site. The superiors of 'Musculito' groups feared anti-Vietnam left marched in the vicinity. Fifteen Cubans were recruited in Miami to deter protesters. Martinez recalls with a smile how to dissolve the manifestation of the actors who were part Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland: "I remember how they provoke. We took a Vietcong flag and broke up. We stopped, but then they let us go quickly."

In the midst of this frenetic activity of the unit created in the shadow of Tricky Dick, comes the first foray into Democratic headquarters. "I photographed a large number of documents and install the microphones, but we were forced to make a second visit."

Martinez maintains that he and his companions were victims of a trap concocted by James McCord, one of the five 'plumbers' that was formally part of the CIA. It was an undercover agent. "He betrayed us. He was a very mysterious. He told us the information we had collected was not enough and we had to repair a microphone that did not work well."

According to the story of Cuban living in Miami Beach, two things happened that raised their suspicions that night. "McCord placed a tape that does not close the door latch. He came and went, and one of the times I came back I asked a question then became famous during the subsequent trial, 'removing' tape '?'. He told me so. The tape was what caught the attention of security guard, who immediately alerted the police. "

The other fact is that McCord suspect forced his companions to turn off their walkie-talkies'. Thereby cut communication with an agent who was watching from the opposite building if the police came. The agent who was cut off was, according to Martinez-McCord relative and "also the Democratic Party."

In January 1973, the four 'plumbers' pleaded guilty to avoid trial and not have to testify about the details of the operation. Were convicted of conspiracy, theft and violation of federal law on communications. Two months later, McCord wrote a letter to the judge and the political scandal that ended with the resignation of President Nixon precipitated. McCord got immunity and Martinez served only 15 months to 40 years who was convicted.

Do you keep a grudge against Nixon? When you hear the question 'Musculito'-he got that nickname in his youth by an athletic-is placed in tension. Look at the reporter defiant statement: "Never. A president with this responsibility will not be aware of some Cubans ...".

After leaving prison, Rolando Eugenio Martinez lived a very hard time. "Still, if I have an operation in the same way then accept it again." Among the relics of the case 'Watergate' bears a special. It was a gift he sent Richard Nixon. It's a lucky clover gold where you can read an inscription in Spanish: "Good luck. Richard Nixon."

Perhaps the charm did its job because after having appeared before the world as a criminal, this agent still had time incombustible embark on a new spying operation in Cuba that was decorated and got a presidential pardon. Ronald Reagan restored his honor and gave him an unconditional pardon.

In 1995 he received a call from Oliver Stone, who advised in his movie 'Nixon'. Of the journalists of the Washington Post, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, Martinez does not have very good opinion. They are considered very 'fictional' and what is more shocking coming from a dirty war expert, accused of "having used any means, including hidden-recordings in their research."

Thirty-eight years after the assault that triggered the scandal 'Watergate', Rolando Eugenio Martinez was killed at age 92 a few weeks ago his best friend and companion command, Bernard Barker. He insists that his life has been unsuccessful and he now regrets not having killed, as a hero in one of its covert operations. Now, at 86 years, while caring for his sick wife to Alzheimer's, "frustrated" that did not end Medicine, did not overthrow Batista or Fidel Castro and ended the political career of the man who protected him, has only one desire: "I feel like elephants. I want to die in Cuba, the land of my birth."

posted by PPAC @ 08/09/2010 8:21:00 AM

Zach

There are three key areas that make up the argument for two Oswalds:

1. Sightings of Oswald when he was known to be elsewhere.

As far as I can tell, no sighting of Oswald has ever been dismissed by the proponents of "Two Oswalds". Yet the sheer number and variety of them alone suggests some are

the products of fertile imaginations / planted phony stories (e.g. the DPD form showing Oswald and Ruby involved in a disturbance) ;

mistaken identity (e.g Ruby and Oswald at sex parties - my own research shows this was far more likely to have been Larry Crafard) or;

by deliberate impersonations on a ad hoc basis (e.g Mexico City)

2. Some people describing Oswald one way - others in a completely opposite way.

Asperger's would account for this, as Oswald would appear very intelligent to some depending on the immediate environment and circumstances - while others would describe him as superficial, repetitive, mechanical for the same reasons.

3. Changes in Oswald's appearance - particularly after he came back from USSR.

This can be accounted for in a very non-spooky way but I am holding it back for my book -- it is not guesswork. The proof of why his appearance was different is in the 26 volumes.

Hi Greg,

Very interesting stuff. I agree completely with you on #1. Regarding #'s 2 and 3, I'm very interested in learning more and checking out your book.

Good luck,

Zach

Here is a quote from the late Roy Hargraves from his 2001 interview with Noel Twyman that concerns Dickey Chapelle:

"We left for Mollendale on a Cuban run that went sour and this is, uh, the boat was sunk at the dock, a time gunsel was put up into the instrument panel and it blew up while we were at sea...peeled the instrument panel off. This news journalist, Dickey Chapelle was blown overboard, Felipe [Vidal] was blown overboard. I'm forward because I brought it out with Ed Collins sleeping so I could take the next leg. Dickey got blown clear because she was bailing water out of the boat. Felipe was at the wheel, so he got burnt the worst. He had skin peeling off his face. Of course all the hair burned off. Skin hanging down from his hands. Dickey's lost all the facial hair and burnt back to the ear line. It was that far on her..."

Here are two associated Forum topic links that also belong here. They are linked up to the James Richards posts that are of great importance.

William C. Bishop

Silvia Odio a New Look

Zach

I agree, totally. Has the man in the dark sport coat and tie and sunglasses walking by himself with one hand in his pocket on the right side of the photo about three feet from the near curb ever been identified? (whew!)

--Thomas

Good eye Thomas,

I believe that man is an ex-marine named Jerry Dicus. He was one of Howard Hughes' bodyguards and snapped a famous photo of the motorcade found here: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/photo-jfk-taken-by-howard-hughes-bodyguard-jerry

Zach

This image of Gordon Campbell is from the exceptional photographic archive of James Richards. [Thank you for sharing, James] The image quality is not the best, but I don’t think there are any other photos available of Campbell at this time.

For those interested, here is a link to Gordon Campbell's monument in Arlington National Cemetery. The photographs were just added today.

Gordon Sutherland Campbell (1905-1962)

Zach

This link no longer works for me.

That's why I always try to repost the entire article of anything important because most links no longer work after a few months, sometimes weeks.

So its always good to archive an article that's considered important.

Did anybody copy this web site article or can anyone refer to where it can be read today?

Thanks,

BK

Hi Bill,

I included the updated link in my above post along with the relevant excerpt. Here is the link again:

Dragon Operations Hostage Rescues in the Congo, 1964-1965

Tommy,

I was hoping we could escape the Smut from the Umbrella Man nonsense albeit briefly.

Seriously though, the Cuban Exiles involved in the Low Beam operation were likely on-the-books assets from JMWAVE that Rip Robertson worked closely with during the Bay of Pigs era. These guys in the photo would be accounted for and documented as this was a high profile operation for the Agency. Therefore, I really doubt that any of these guys would be Dallas players.

Zach

Here are a couple excellent articles that my friend Mike Hogan found in the Miami Herald and sent me. They belong here under this topic.

History of Cuban exile pilots who served in the Congo in the early 1960s being preserved

Posted on Wednesday, 11.23.11

By LUISA YANEZ

lyanez@MiamiHerald.com

Next month in Miami, a handful of Cuban exile veterans of an undeclared war 50 years ago — in all places the former Belgian Congo — will gather to remember and piece together the fantastic history of their second most important secret mission.

The first had been the failed 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion, a CIA-sponsored effort to overthrown Fidel Castro.

But the spotlight now is on the little-known campaign by 100 Cuban exile pilots recruited by the CIA, including veterans of the invasion, to enter the Congo and stop leftist Simba warriors being reinforced by Castro troops, the Soviet Union and the Chinese.

Castro had even sent Ernesto “Che” Guevara to help the rebels.

This time, the Cuban exiles defeated the communist threat, but with little fanfare or reward. Dubbed the Makasi unit, they became pioneers in the Congo wars that raged from 1962 to 1965. Makasi means powerful and strong in Swahili.

“What these men did was incredible and their history has never been told,” said Janet Ray of Miami-Dade, whose pilot father, Thomas “Pete” Ray, was shot down during the Bay of Pigs invasion. Ray has dedicated her life to preserving he history of the men who took part in the invasion and now she is focusing on the Cuban exile pilots who served in the Congo.

The recruited men numbered about 120 to 100 pilots to fly missions over the jungle, a ground crew and naval force.

If the Bay of Pigs invasion failed 50 year ago this year due to lack of U.S. air support, in the Congo the Cuban exile pilots stymied the rebel forces and even forced Guevara out. He headed instead for the Bolivian jungles, where he was captured and killed.

During their three-year stint, the pilots carried out hundreds of missions. Two died when their planes were shot down; lore has it they were eaten by cannibals.

“Many Cuban exiles have absolutely no idea that this took place,” writer Frank Villafana, author of Cold War in the Congo, recently told WTVJ-NBC 6 reporter Hank Tester, who has launched a multi-part project on the pilots. It is well known that Cuban forces were sent to the Congo by Castro, but not that Cuban exiles were also sent clandestinely by the United States.

Ray wants to bring to light the history of the Makasi unit. She has personally tracked down the names of many of the men who served and located some of their children on Facebook. In many cases, she has told them for the first time details of their fathers’ mission, which they had been told to keep secret.

Ray has also created a private Facebook page dedicated to the: “The Makasi Legacy Cuban Exile Veterans of the Congo,” where she has culled new photographs and 8mm film of the men in action. The page has received hundreds of hits.

And she had tracked down those rescued in one of the unit’s greatest mission: the daring rescue in the jungle of 14 missionaries taken hostage by rebels.

Ray, along with the Cuban Pilots Association, is planning a Makasi reunion Dec. 3 in the hopes of finding more pilots or their children.

“Our goal now is to preserve the history of what these men did,’’ Ray said.

For details of the time and place for the reunion, call Ray at 305-255-5994 or email her at WingsValor@aol.com.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/23/v-print/2516697/history-of-cuban-exile-pilots.html#ixzz1fWNElP00

A mid-1960s photo of the Cuban exile pilots and their ground crew while on their mission in the Congo.

Bittersweet memory of rescue mission

Posted on Sunday, 11.27.11

On Thanksgiving I shared a story of the 47th anniversary of the rescue of 24 missionaries by a CIA team of Cuban exiles in the Congo.

The rebels, who were known as the Simbas, were holding more than 1,000 Europeans and Americans hostages for 111 days in Stanleyville. Within the group of hostages were American missionaries and diplomats including undercover CIA agents.

The European nations and the United States were developing the plans for the largest hostage rescue in history using U.S. Air Force C-130s and more than 500 Belgian and 45 American paratroopers. Cuban-exile pilots would make the first flights over Stanleyville to take out the aerial guns. The ground assault would be led by a Belgian officer and a force made up mainly of mercenaries.

Hidden within this force was the CIA’s special Low Beam team whose mission was the liberation of the five American diplomats. The CIA had asked Rip Robertson, one of their top covert officers, to form a team from the Cuban exiles he had worked within covert operations against Castro’s dictatorship.

Team members knew when they flew from the United States that they would be serving the interests of their new country and fighting a Communist-supported situation.

As Stanleyville was being liberated, the Low Beam team made it to the airport after days of fighting. At the same time, a group of liberated American missionaries desperately pleaded for help in rescuing the missionaries who were being held at the KM 8 mission. This team of Cuban exiles put their lives on the line to save 14 children, nine women and one man. The team fought its way to the mission ,and in the fight back to the safety of the airport, their vehicles were so crowded one of the team held a 4-year-old girl in his lap as he fired his machine gun.

Forty-seven years later, the surviving missionaries would learn their rescuers weren’t mercenaries, but a special CIA team. Forty-seven years later some of the survivors and the team would be united for a few hours at Miami International Airport.

As the daughter of an American pilot who gave his life during the Bay of Pigs invasion, it continues to be bittersweet. I consider the Cuban-American community to be my family and want the world to know of their noble qualities.

Janet Ray, Miami

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/27/2516497/bittersweet-memory-of-rescue-mission.html#storylink=mirelated#ixzz1fWMoWBvy

Zach

David Morales and four unidentified friends: Vietnam, 1969-1971

Before we label anyone "top level drug/Heroin smugglers," I think it would be awesome if we knew who these other guys were first.

Also, for those unaware, you can actually click on the picture (twice) to enlarge it to its original size.

Zach

Obviously also this photo was taken by someone. Who?

Hi John,

The photo was taken by senior CIA officer Tom Clines in Vietnam circa 1969-71.

Zach

Hi Bill,

Not sure about the man third from left. When I enlarge the photo, it gets too blurry to read his name tag. I can't make out the patch on his shoulder either.

I think the man on the far right slightly resembles one of the guys in the Barry and Boys photo. I'm not saying it is him, but he looks familiar.

The Crimes of Patriots is a great book and I'm glad you posted it on the Michael J. Hand thread. I believe the establishment at Kings Cross was the Bourbon and Beefsteak run by Bernie Houghton. Many Laos and Vietnam soldiers as well as Air America personnel would end up at Sydney. Morales did have ties to some Air America folks. The guys on the far right and left look like Intel guys - maybe Air America? Hopefully someone out there recognizes them.

Zach

When Ted Shackley was placed in charge of the CIA “secret war” in Laos, he brought along David Morales to be Chief of Pakse Base, a black operations station focused on political paramilitary action, in 1967. In 1969, Morales moved to Vietnam where he worked close with the military under the cover of the Agency for International Development until 1971.

This photo below is from James Richards who gave me permission to post it here at the Forum. It shows Morales (second from left) and four friends from the Vietnam days. These four men remain unidentified. Does anyone out there have any idea who they are?

Thanks,

Zach

aroberts@heidelberg.edu

"John Martin" was indeed Robert Emmett Johnson's sponsor but he died of a "heart attack" in 1974. He was allegedly murdered by Soviet Intel agents. "Martin" was not the man who helped Michael Hand escape; nevertheless, it is likely whoever did help Hand, came from "Martin's" extensive network of operatives.

Here is a great article from the Sydney Morning Herald of Aug. 21, 1981 that expands on John's story: How Michael Hand Left Australia

Zach

Shortly after the shooting they walk together across the Plaza toward the Grassy Knoll and then make their way down to the area in between the Dal Tex building and the Book Depository.

I don't think I've seen the third photo. Is there a link or can you post it?

Hi Ron,

Here are the other two photos. These are on Robin Unger's great website.

Murray Scan ( Higher Resolution ) -- The two men are seen behind and to the right of the women crying next to the man in the hardhat, presumably looking up at the "sniper window."

Cancellare Credit: ( Lee Forman ) Ebay Purchase -- The two men stroll through the grass on the right. There are many interesting people in this photo.

Zach

The Bayo-Pawley - Operation Red Cross mission is certainly connected to what happened at Dealey Plaza.

Can someone post the photo of Rip Robertson at Dealey Plaza tipping his hat?

Also, can Mr. Caddy give us the date and location that this lecture took place?

Thanks,

BK

Hi Bill,

I think this picture below that is found on Spartacus' Rip Robertson page is the one that is referenced above:

Whether that is really him or not, is anyone's guess. To my knowledge, there are 3 published photos (including the one above at the corner of Main and Houston as the motorcade goes by) of these two guys in suits and hats from 11/22.

Shortly after the shooting they walk together across the Plaza toward the Grassy Knoll and then make their way down to the area in between the Dal Tex building and the Book Depository.

Zach

Interesting story. It seems that it was Cuba that moved Chapelle to the right. She seemed to be in favour of national liberation when she was reporting in Hungary, Algeria and Lebanon. She later wrote in What's A Woman Doing Here?: A Reporter's Report on Herself (1962): "I had become an interpreter of violence. I'd covered three revolutions in three years - Hungary, Algeria, Lebanon.... I minded the larger truths that the revolutions had failed. Hungary had fallen to the tanks. Brother still fought brother in Algeria. Rioting continued in Lebanon. But men continued to hope and fight for a better world."

She claims that she was invited to Cuba by supporters of Fidel Castro. However, she was working for the Reader's Digest at the time, and it would seem that reports in favour of Castro would not have gone down well. At this time she began mixing with other anti-communist fanatics such as Henry Luce, Clare Booth Luce, Hal Hendrix, Paul Bethel, William Pawley, Virginia Prewett, Arleigh Burke, Leo Cherne and Ernest Cuneo.

By the way Zach, I share your views on the JFK assassination:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1037&st=180&p=216508entry216508

Thanks John,

Yes, I have read and learned a great deal from many of your posts over the years. They are very rational and well thought out, which I have found to be a rarity when it comes to this particular subject. There have been so many great people who have contributed to research at the Forum, I feel fortunate to just be a member here. To be honest, Spartacus and the Forum are what inspired me to get into researching.

One note on Chapelle here: she did indeed mix with Tony Cuesta and the men of Comandos “L” in 1963. She took many photographs of them training, in private meetings, and even cooking and creating homemade explosives.

By the way Zach, I share your views on the JFK assassination:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1037&st=180&p=216508entry216508

Zach Robinson is a talented and gifted writer. I always thought the post referenced by John to be extremely well-written. Zach crafts his sentences so that there is a lot of food for thought in each one.

Zach's posts on the Education Forum follow the same formula. They always contain a lot of valuable, hard to find information.

I hope Zach gets the opportunity to write his own book someday. No doubt it would be a winner.

He could use the researcher pen name "Zach Robinson." Just kidding you Zach.

Mike,

That is pretty funny and I got a good laugh out of the whole name thing. That actually happens quite a bit with my last name, dating back many decades and I’m sure it will continue in the future one way or another. I’m planning on using the pen name of Robinson as a “marked card” to throw people off my trail. Don't tell anyone

Thanks for the kind words; you know I appreciate it and how highly I regard you. I will try to live up to the hype you have created

Not only is Zach on the money, he also provides a faint outline of the organizations operating behind the scenes at higher levels. I hope to expand on that aspect of the environment in the near future. The anti-Castro Cubans were certainly the main actors, and could have pulled off much of what they did solo, but they are still simply pieces in a much bigger puzzle that was created decades before 1963. More to come...

Tom,

Thank you as well; I created the chart long ago to aid in my own education on the assassination. I have a more specific one as well. It has changed slightly over time and it represents my opinion only.

I don’t think all of the people who were operational in Dallas that day were Cuban Exiles, although two of the three Shooter Cells in Dealey Plaza likely were. However, all these operatives did have one thing in common: a sponsor who had a connection to David Morales. The hooks from 11/22 reach out to many future events in our history, but I do not see that as some ‘vast conspiracy.’ I look forward to your work in this area in the future.

Zach

Very nice Bio. Glad to see Dickey has a page on Spartacus. Here is an associated Forum topic from many years ago:

Dickey Chapelle and Felipe Vidal Santiago

Chapelle was involved with Robert Emmett Johnson in 1963. Johnson was working with Vidal on some operations concerning Haiti around that same time. This is how Vidal and Chapelle met.

The Miami News: 5/28/64

Vidal Executed in Cuba, Rescued Chapelle from boat explosion 5 months earlier

I wonder what became of Chapelle's interview with Vidal? I assume it was destroyed, but you never know.

Zach

I don't know yet but they do want to talk about the JFK assassination. If they are, it will be an interesting project given their very different backgrounds.

Thanks, John. Very interesting indeed. I will be sure to keep a look out for their upcoming project.

Zach

I have just had my attention drawn to Wikibin. It seems to deal with articles that have been deleted from Wikipedia. This includes an article on me that used to be on Wikipedia. What is interesting is that I have had a joint message from Daniel Sheehan and Dick Billings who are working on something about the JFK assassination. Now, I would never have put them together.

http://wikibin.org/

Hi John,

Are Sheehan and Billings writing a book? Just curious.

Zach

They were going to bomb the car? Was a bomb planted in the car or was someone going to throw a hand grenade into the vehicle?

Roy's plane story sounds like Tosh's story.

Kathy C

Kathy,

I believe there was a sophisticated remote controlled bomb on the other side of the overpass. This was a back up in case the sniper teams failed or were called off. This Elm St. Cell would be autonomous from the shooter Cells. Key people would include the Dark Complected Man and his friend, the Umbrella Man. Read the interview with Roy I linked above and check out Larry Hancock's new book NEXUS for more background.

Zach

trying again, zach.....b

Hi Bernice!

The second one is the Gordon Novel mugshot image again. The first one is a great photo of Roy Hargraves - thank you for sharing!

Here is one from AJ Weberman's site with Roy on the far right and his pal Gerry Hemming standing in the middle on Roy's right.

I think Roy is a solid Dallas suspect and any information on him is well worth the time seeking out.

Zach

Forum members might be interested in reading the interview Noel Twyman conducted with Roy Hargraves shortly before his death. It can be found here:

Hargraves - Twyman Interview

Zach

Some interesting articles on Edward Lansdale:

Where's Lansdale? 2/9/66

Contingency Plans on Castro 5/24/75

JFK tied to Castro Plot 5/31/75

Lansdale testifies 7/9/75

Frank Church and Ed Lansdale

[Photo Credit: James K. W. Atherton, Washington Post]

Zach

Bill,

Great work, I most certainly appreciate it. A fitting tribute to Dave on his birthday, Halloween. I hope you have found Secret Wars Diary, it would make an excellent addition to your collection. It contains some great nuggets of information. Steve Rosen is an excellent researcher and has found a wealth of information on David Atlee Phillips.

Here are a couple images from Secret Wars Diary:

The first is a collage of Phillips' career including an article from WWII, an article on Atlee the actor in "The Snow Job."

There is a photo of him and DCI William Colby at Phillips' retirement. It is inscribed and reads: "To Dave - with our institutional and my personal appreciation and admiration of a truly distinguished contributor to American Intelligence - Bill Colby"

A photo of Staff Sgt. Phillips and Gen. Omar Bradley, with DCI Bill Casey, and finally, an autographed photo of DCI Helms inscribed to Dave that reads:

"To Dave Phillips, Who stays the course in a most uncommon way. Richard Helms"

The second image is Phillips and his idol Allen Dulles in 1954 after PBSUCCESS.

Zach

The NEXUS webpage has been updated and has a synopsis of the book and a photo section. I'm sure it will expand further in the near future.

http://larry-hancock.com/nexus.html

Zach