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  1. And what is the "appropriate" reaction you see after frame 312?

    When a high speed bullet passes through you, (even if hitting a rib) it does not move you forward. (Its like pulling a napkin very quickly from under a glass , the glass does not move)Also, the limo was slowing down and all the passengers(except JFK) are reacting to that.

    The 6.5 Cancano is not a high speed round it is more of a medium speed round

  2. This piece analyzes a covert Manhattan Project spin-off organization referred to here as the Manhattan-Rochester Coalition, and an obscure aerosol study in St. Louis, Missouri, conducted under contract by the U.S. military from 1953–1954, and 1963–1965. The military-sponsored studies targeted a segregated, high-density urban area, where low-income persons of color predominantly resided. Examination of the Manhattan-Rochester Coalition and the St. Louis aerosol studies, reveal their connections to each other, and to a much larger military project that secretly tested humans, both alive and deceased, in an effort to understand the effects of weaponized radiation. Through this case study, the author explores how a large number of participants inside an organization will willingly participate in organizational acts that are harmful to others, and how large numbers of outsiders, who may or may not be victims of organizational activities, are unable to determine illegal or harmful activity by an organization. The author explains how ethical and observational lapses are engineered by the organization through several specific mechanisms, in an effort to disable critical analysis, and prevent both internal and external dissent of harmful organizational actions. Through studying the process of complex organizational deviance, we can develop public policies that protect the public's right to know, and construct checks and methods to minimize the chance of covert projects that are contrary to societal norms..

    http://gradworks.umi.com/35/15/3515886.html

  3. If Oswald in June 1953 was mentally unstable, lived in a fantasy world, etc... and need psychiatric help - BADLY according to NY State

    How was he able to join the Marines and get work as a radar operator? A person would need a back ground check to get tha job.

    I have a friend that was in the Air Force from 79-84 he was bases in England and part of his his job was to launch the bombers to eastern Europe and the FBI did a check on him.

    So with all the mental trouble Oswald supposedly had he got on a secret Air Base and got a job as a Radar operator??

    That sounds very fishily

  4. Lee some of the saying that Israel knew that the liberty was an American ship came from the personal abroad the ship at the time of the attack i will take their word anytime

    Mack,

    Was the ship equipped with mind reading equipment?

    The ship was easily identified as an American ship which was flying a large American flag.

    James Bamford came out with Body of Secrets, his latest book about the National Security Agency. In a stunning revelation, Bamford writes that unknown to Israel, a US Navy EC-121 intelligence aircraft was flying high overhead the 'Liberty,' electronically recorded the attack. The US aircraft crew provides evidence that the Israeli pilots knew full well that they were attacking a US Navy ship flying the American flag.

  5. Breaking the Taboo on Israel's Spying Efforts on the United States

    http://www.alternet...._united_states/

    Interesting claims but the author provided scant documentation.

    They also knew that they were attacking an American ship the Liberty

    http://en.wikipedia....olved_questions

    Debatable, the link does not support your claim.

    Lee some of the saying that Israel knew that the liberty was an American ship came from the personal abroad the ship at the time of the attack i will take their word anytime

  6. That is not new for the British Govermnent to do thongs like that there is the

    The sinking of the Cape Ann The Royal Air Force believed the ships contained escaping SS officers. Tragically, British intelligence may have known who was on the ships, which may explain why the RAF has sealed the records until 2045

    The Sinking of the SS Leopoldville A wartime tragedy resurfaces in the one-hour History Undercover: Cover-up - The Sinking of the SS Leopoldville. In 1944, a German U-boat destroyed the fully manned ship. 800 men died and their bodies lay buried at sea while they were declared missing in action. The History Channel explores the missteps behind the costly disaster and the reasons for the cover-up. British authorities urged Eisenhower to hide the true nature of the sinking which he did. Here, survivors and footage re-create one of the worst American losses of the War. ~ Sarah Ing, Rovi

  7. David Josephs may I ask you a question? If you choose to answer it would you please keep your answer short.

    Do you agree that one of the two bullets, either CE399 or a 30 cal bullet was in Dallas that day and fired from a gun and ended up in near pristine condition, looking like it did not hit anything?

    So, we can say that one of those bullets either CE399 or a 30 cal bullet (which we do not have anymore and may never have had it) was fired from a gun that day and ended up in almost pristine condition in Connally's clothes.

    Sorry buddy, I don't do "short" - I prefer to support my posts with actual evidence and then authenticate/coroborrate that evidence..

    I try not to deal with opinion unless I say I am expressing an opinion.

    So Mike.... you can ask me anything you like... as long as you agree to provide evidence and authentication for your argument against.....

    There is evidence that a pointed round was found... yet disappeared... it is SAID not to have been disformed and it looked intact

    There is NO EVIDENCE that ce399 was in Dallas, in contact with either JFK or JC, and no Chain of custody until TODD gives it to Frasier in DC....

    CE399 only appears on the scene as a result of Chief ROWLEY giving it to ELMER TODD on his way to Frasier...

    (please remember that TODD was the agent sent to convince the Parkland docs, specifically Perry, that the throat would COULD BE either entrance or exit... after hounding him repeatedly..

    Todd himself expresses regret at the manner inwhich he did his job regarding Perry....

    Reading the Bell Article linked here will help with your understanding that the WCR conclusions are CRAP.... the physical evidence? more Bullsh!t

    The medical evidence? Please.

    As I've asked you in the past Mike... you can present any piece of evidence from the WCR or HSCA and we can show you how it is not only NOT supported by the evidence but more than likely the evidence states exactly the opposite - and not in a single instance, but in ALL instances.....

    http://jfkhistory.co...ellArticle.html

    Wright's and Tomlinson's unanimous rejection of CE-399 was further confirmed by this top secret FBI airtel, which was never shown to the Warren Commission.

    WFO (FBI Washington Field Office),
    neither
    DARRELL C. TOMLINSON,

    who found bullet at Parkland Hospital, Dallas, nor O. P. WRIGHT, Personnel

    Officer, Parkland Hospital, who obtained bullet from TOMLINSON and gave

    to Special Service, at Dallas 11/22/63,
    can identify bullet
    .

    Instead, the FBI told the commission that the two civilians had been interviewed by special agent Bardwell Odum, who was told by the men, that the stretcher bullet "appears to be the same one". But when Josiah Thompson and Dr. Gary Aguilar contacted the National Archives, they found no record of such an interview, in spite of the fact that the FBI was required to document interviews like that. And when they contacted Bardwell Odum in person, he denied ever conducting such an interview and stated that he had never even seen CE399.

    ......

    Considering the time zones, it was between 90 minutes and 2 hours after the arrival of those fragments at the FBI labs, that Tomlinson was awakened by someone from the FBI, demanding that he "keep his mouth shut" about the bullet he found at Parkland hospital. This is from the recorded 1967 interview of Tomlinson by Ray Marcus. The interview is also documented in the HSCA records.

    Tomlinson: On Friday morning about 12:30 to 1 o'clock - uh, excuse me, that's Saturday morning (11/23) - after the assassination, the FBI woke me up on the phone and told me to to keep my mouth shut.

    Marcus: About the circumstances of your finding the bullet?

    Tomlinson: That is (one short word, unintelligible) what I found…

    Marcus: I understand exactly what you mean, when they call you, it's pretty authoritative. But the thing is this, did they say - was there any particular thing about what they said or they just didn't want you to talk about it period?

    Tomlinson: Just don't talk about it period.

    and finally Mike... your graphic on the SBT and Specter shows just how little you understand here... you PROVE the SBT is impossible

    without the 3 degree slope of ELM, the trajectory from 6th floor SE corner would be 20 degrees (17 plus the 3 degree slope)

    What you've done is prove a shot MUST have come from Dal-Tex to enter at a SBT angle thru JFK.... which of course is unacceptable to the WCR

    and if you look at Altgens 6 you see an open window on the 2nd floor behind the fire-escape....

    Plus the bullet was moving RIGHT to LEFT... how far to the LEFT did the bullet travel between JFK's throat and JC's armpit given the extreme R2L angle

    and where was JC sitting? how far to the LEFT and BELOW was JC's injuries?

    The SBT is impossible Mike.... It was then and is now AN INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE.....

    SBTBS.jpg

    Plus, we show you the angles right here - as I did before... and asked that you draw an entrance and exit location that conforms to the SBT....

    Burkley said the bullet entered at T3.... which is even lower than the throat.... and HUMES/FBI tells us the bullet only went in an inch or so and PROBABLY fell out due to external cardiac massage.

    When/where did THAT bullet fall out and disappear to?

    SBTangles.jpg

    I always thought that this reenactment was worthless they did not use the limo that Kennedy & Connolly was in. They needed to use the Presidential Limousine SS100X to show proper setting of both men

  8. The evidence indicates that CE399 is probably the bullet which passed through Kennedy's body.

    CE399 ended up in John Connally's stretcher. How did it get there?

    One scenario is the following....

    CE399 passed through the presidents neck and struck Connally in the left shoulder causing Connally to flinch as we see in the film clip. CE399 then landed either in Connally's clothes or seat and was picked up along with Connally when he was put in the stretcher.

    Connally was hit by a second bullet, in the right shoulder , which missed the president completely, as Connally turned to his right.

    Kennedy was hit between z frams 2107 225 and Connally was hit around z frame 235 2 hits 2 different bullets

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