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Well the, Scott, what's the point of even stamping ANYTHING on any check or money order? If EVERYTHING can possibly be faked (like rubber stamps and Filer Locator Numbers and all the things that were stamped on the front of the M.O. by the Dallas Post Office on 3/12/63....then it can never be proven that ANY check or money order that has ever been processed by any bank in the world is legit. Right?
At what point do the "LEGITIMATE LOOKING THINGS" on the document make you want to STOP pretending everything's been put there by conspirators?
Finally you're now getting it, I know we have a pretty screwed up system, it's called government.
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Anything else Dav? "Common Dav, give me a break!"
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And what about Oswald's handwriting? Should I believe that LHO's writing on the M.O. is a "forgery" too? Even though handwring specialist Alwyn Cole told the Warren Commission this:
"It is my conclusion that the handwriting on this money order is in the hand of the person who executed the standard writing [i.e., Lee Harvey Oswald]."
Perhaps, you should ask Mr. Cole if he was harassed as much as Silvia Oido?
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If there's no bank endorsement, then it's a forgery...
Absolute nonsense, Scott. There are multiple other explanations without having to constantly resort to "forgery".
Question for you, Scott....
How did the Klein's "Pay To The Order" stamp get on the back of the Hidell money order if that money order was never handled by anyone at Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago?
Do you think the Klein's stamp is a "forgery" too? Even though Bill Waldman testified that the stamp on the M.O. is "identical to our endorsement".
And what about Oswald's handwriting? Should I believe that LHO's writing on the M.O. is a "forgery" too? Even though handwring specialist Alwyn Cole told the Warren Commission this:
"It is my conclusion that the handwriting on this money order is in the hand of the person who executed the standard writing [i.e., Lee Harvey Oswald]."
How many things that appear to be kosher does it take to make an item cross over into the category of "Real and Legitimate"? Or is that a stupid question to ask a conspiracy believer?
How did the Klein's "Pay To The Order" stamp get on the back of the Hidell money order if that money order was never handled by anyone at Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago?David, now I know you can't be that naive. I use to own my own business, when we needed "rubber stamps" I'd ask my secretary to place a call in to a company that makes such items, stamping a company name is not hard to do, even if that postal money was received by Klein's would the secretary or the person receiving the mail know the difference between a forged and not forged postal money order? I'm certain if I handed you one made out for $10,000 but said to you Dav, cash this for me and only give me $5,000 grand and you can keep the rest, guess who walks away with the money?
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Uh, was not the FBI at Klein's all night on the evening of the 22nd?
Davey cherry picks the things that almost anyone can fake.
Then leaves out the things that are very hard to forge.
Find out if the Secret Service at anytime investigated this incident, I'm not saying the FBI wouldn't look into it too, most likely if the bank did not endorse the postal money, it was forged.
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I do know that ALL postal money orders REQUIRE bank endorsements, if it's NOT endorsed through FDIC which protects a postal money order then it's a forgery.
Thanks so much for proving my point, Scott. The alleged Postal Money Order for the purchase of the rifle that allegedly killed JFK has no bank endorsements on it whatsoever. Does that strike you as likely?If there's no bank endorsement, then it's a forgery, it's as simple as that, there's no arguing the facts.
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On May 7, 1977 exactly three months after Kaiser's death, Frank Sturgis said, In an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle, Frank Sturgis claims “that the objective of the Watergate break-ins was to locate and destroy the photographs of our role in the assassination of the President." Frank really knew who had the photos.
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My father's associates, the Babun brother's were apart of $150,000 payoff by the CIA to assassinate Fidel Castro in 1964, just into a year anniversary of President Kennedy's assassination. The Babun brother's were also involved in bringing figures connected together from the mob for this assassination plot. In early 1960, Edwin Kaiser was arrested and was to serve sometime in the Alaskan prison for assault with a deadly weapon on an Alaskan State Topper, the bail bondsman was the "Duke" who had connections with the Chicago mob and Sam Giancana. Kaiser would later be a driver for the bail bondsman and mobster named Charles Duke Knuth in 1968. According to Jose, my father was among the five assassins plotting to assassinate Castro. Pipin said, your father and I think alike, we don't believe in Kingdoms or dictators. On March 2, 1964, a Cuban exile was approached by an acquaintance who wished to discuss a plan, which was still in the embryonic state to assassinate Fidel Castro. The acquaintance was described as a businessman and a shipowner, he was not a politician who owns at least one ship which sails under the British flag, and who also has a legally sanctioned interest in distributing and placing slot machines in gambling houses. The involvement of this acquaintance in the slot machines business brings the man in contact with elements in the underworld, primarily through his partner who is a former police officer from St. Louis and through whom there is a tie-in with elements of "Cosa Nostra." The Cosa Nostra elements are alleged to have numerous contacts still available to them in Cuba, and they have offered to assassinate Castro for $150,000.00, no advance funding was requested. If the mission cannot be accomplished, or if the plan is unsuccessful, an amount not to exceed $10,000 would be paid for the travel and living expenses of five men involved in the mission. The Cuban exile commented that he believed he had been approached with this plan because of his family's wealth; he told his acquaintance that he was not interested and suggested that an approach might be made to someone who has much more money.Another Cuban exile reported that Byron Cameron, owner and operator of the M/V Cayman Hope, whose address is Caribe Trading Co., LTD., Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, met with several Cuban exiles on March 3, 1964 Among the persons attending the meeting were Teofilo Babun Franco, co-owner of the Antillean Marine Shipping Corporation, Miami, and two of Babun's employees, Oscar Fernandez Viego and Eliseo Gomez Fernandez. However, only four assassins names are listed:1. Byron Cameron2. Teofilo Babun Franco3. Oscar Fernandez Viego4. Eliseo GomezCameron made it very clear that some mafia figures were involved. Those who were financing this operation was Julio Lobo and Jose "Pepin" Bosch. I wonder, just who this "silent majority" person was? Because my father would later turn on this country, and the men after discovering the truth he would later be assassinated on a ship. The ship kept bouncing from owner to owner until it ended up in the Cayman Islands, then there was nothing we could do the CIA had covered their tracks and sunk the ship. A letter by John H. Lewis attorney's at law; some wording added by me states, Dear Ms. Kitchin: Thank you for your letter of February 19, 1980. As discussed at the September 25, 1979, informal conference. I am attempting to establish ownership of the vessel by All Trading, Ltd. of Grand Cayman. This attempt is based upon Mr. Woodward's letter indicating that All Trading, and not Mr. Woodward of Texas owned the subject vessel on the date of Mr. Kaiser death. I can only assume that Mr. Woodward owned the vessel prior, and at the present time, the only information obtained has been through the government of the Cayman Islands indicating that All Trading, Ltd. was registered on May 2, 1977 this means the ship was registered to the Cayman Islands just three months after Kaiser's death. Is there really any other way of getting rid of a mole? The ship was registered as a non-resident company and maintains a registered office on Grand Cayman. However, the government would provide no other information, particularly regarding the ownership of the corporation. I have retained counsel on Grand Cayman to attempt to develop additional evidence. However, I am sure you can appreciate that this will not be an easy task, given the fact that a Cayman corporation is the equivalent of a Swiss bank account. Per the previous plot to assassinate Fidel Castro, the United States Government would not, under any circumstances, condone the planned actions. This passage is to protect the United States by definition as "plausible deniability." In submitting this information, were motivated in part by the belief that by disclosing the information they would obtain immunity against any legal action should they succeed in implementing the plan. Would there be a reason Edwin Kaiser would later ask for Federal and State pardons?
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"BTW, I asked a bank supervisor about postal money orders a few days ago."
Most moving companies will ask for a "postal money order" vs a cashier's check or any other form of payment, it assures payment, a postal money order is no difference then cash.
And a forged postal money order is no better than counterfeit money.
Though the two are treated differently legally, depending upon the endorsements or lack thereof on the back.
This is an important point because Lance the Lawyer used the "same as cash" argument to "prove" that he was right, that Federal Reserve Banks don't require bank stamps. It's funny how quickly he claimed victory and disappeared once he could see that the hole in his his argument was about to be exposed. (imo)
While a money order and a postal order are often considered to be the same type of financial instrument, there are a few subtle differences between the two. Those differences focus on where the instruments are obtained, where they may be tendered for cash, and who will accept each as a form of payment. In some nations, the level of risk associated with them also creates an additional distinction between the two.One of the chief differences between a money order and a postal order has to do with where the instruments may be purchased. A postal order is purchased directly from a national postal system, such as the US Postal Service or the Post Office in the United Kingdom. By contrast, a money order is produced by an independent financial service provider and may be purchased at any number of retail outlets, including supermarkets or drugstores.Another key difference is the reputation of the two instruments. While there are exceptions, creditors are usually more willing to accept a postal money order over a money order issued by an independent financial services provider. One of the reasons for this is the perception that postal orders are more difficult to forge than money orders issued by other entities. In addition, there are providers who tend to be somewhat slow with honoring payment, a factor that may lead some creditors to not credit customer accounts until the funds are actually received. In contrast, the face value of the postal orders may be posted immediately, since the chances of forgery or some other issue are relatively low.Cashing the financial instrument is another difference between a money order and a postal order. Many banks, along with most post offices, will honor a postal order immediately by providing cash to the individual presenting it. In contrast, a money order may not be eligible for immediate cashing. Instead, the presenter would need to deposit the order into a bank account, and allow the bank time to clear it. This is another reason why many creditors will accept postal orders but may decline payment tendered in the form of a money order.I hope this is understood between a "postal money order" which clearly identifies the currency as being equal and having accessibility to "quick cash" vs a money order that would require a deposit.My hole suddenly shrank to a golf size...
Just to be clear...
I wasn't arguing with what you said Scott. I was interjecting because the statement you made could have been (and has been) used as fodder for a lone nut argument used in attempts to discredit what many CTers believe, that the postal money order allegedly used to buy the Carcano rifle was never actually processed by the banking system. Because it was forged. I should have made that clear in my post.
I was hoping you understood the smiley face, I understand what Jim had pointed out, and to take the objective side, because I really don't know much about Oswald's alleged purchasing of the rifle with the postal money order story. I do know that ALL postal money orders REQUIRE bank endorsements, if it's NOT endorsed through FDIC which protects a postal money order then it's a forgery. Just as a banks are FDIC insured by the government so that ALL customers are protected up to $100,000 in-case of losses, robbery or the bank it self has taken a gainful loss then the Federal Government steps in, just as they have in the past with banks.
Texas State Attorney warns about scams
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/agency/weeklyag/2006/0706counterfeit.pdf
USPS scams
https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2008/html/pb22225/html/kit_014.html
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David Von Pein, on 20 Feb 2016 - 3:48 PM, said:
Jim Hargrove started this ridiculous thread merely because of my status as a Lone Nutter
It's hard enough sometimes to get those who believe Oswald acted a lone confess they're nuts! Let alone get them to admit the Warren Commission was nothing more than a cover-up.
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The real point, Scott, is that you can tell this Magic Money Order is forged merely by looking at it. If the row of numbers at the top are, in fact, File Locator numbers, then that seems to indicate that the money order went completely through the system. But it did so without an endorsement or date stamp from a single financial institution, in clear violation of Postal regs.
I'm not even sure what we're talking about, but if that is what happened to the postal money order, then yes, it is clearly a forgery, and is no different then forging American currency in which this case the Secret Service would have also gotten involved as this is Federally protected and not from some independent operation.
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"BTW, I asked a bank supervisor about postal money orders a few days ago."
Most moving companies will ask for a "postal money order" vs a cashier's check or any other form of payment, it assures payment, a postal money order is no difference then cash.
And a forged postal money order is no better than counterfeit money.
Though the two are treated differently legally, depending upon the endorsements or lack thereof on the back.
This is an important point because Lance the Lawyer used the "same as cash" argument to "prove" that he was right, that Federal Reserve Banks don't require bank stamps. It's funny how quickly he claimed victory and disappeared once he could see that the hole in his his argument was about to be exposed. (imo)
While a money order and a postal order are often considered to be the same type of financial instrument, there are a few subtle differences between the two. Those differences focus on where the instruments are obtained, where they may be tendered for cash, and who will accept each as a form of payment. In some nations, the level of risk associated with them also creates an additional distinction between the two.One of the chief differences between a money order and a postal order has to do with where the instruments may be purchased. A postal order is purchased directly from a national postal system, such as the US Postal Service or the Post Office in the United Kingdom. By contrast, a money order is produced by an independent financial service provider and may be purchased at any number of retail outlets, including supermarkets or drugstores.Another key difference is the reputation of the two instruments. While there are exceptions, creditors are usually more willing to accept a postal money order over a money order issued by an independent financial services provider. One of the reasons for this is the perception that postal orders are more difficult to forge than money orders issued by other entities. In addition, there are providers who tend to be somewhat slow with honoring payment, a factor that may lead some creditors to not credit customer accounts until the funds are actually received. In contrast, the face value of the postal orders may be posted immediately, since the chances of forgery or some other issue are relatively low.Cashing the financial instrument is another difference between a money order and a postal order. Many banks, along with most post offices, will honor a postal order immediately by providing cash to the individual presenting it. In contrast, a money order may not be eligible for immediate cashing. Instead, the presenter would need to deposit the order into a bank account, and allow the bank time to clear it. This is another reason why many creditors will accept postal orders but may decline payment tendered in the form of a money order.I hope this is understood between a "postal money order" which clearly identifies the currency as being equal and having accessibility to "quick cash" vs a money order that would require a deposit.My hole suddenly shrank to a golf size... -
Yeah, it almost slipped my mind, but how did they blow a $300,000 that's a three hundred thousand dollar deal they were going to have with CBS covering the coup of Papa Doc? Only one man could get in my father's way of assassinating Papa Doc, and that was Masferrer, someone had to turn him over to the FBI and get him out of the way so Edwin could do what he needed to do, that was only because Masferrer was already under indictment. Guess who turned him over? I explain it all.
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Now, here's the million dollar question, why was it that Masferrer was under indictment for the planning and invasion of Haiti and WerBell was not? You'll find everything you need to know in my updated book, by the way, for those of you who have received a copy of my PDF to take a gander at it, believe me when I say, much of the important information has been left out, I must have forgot to put in there before sharing, it must have slipped my mind, oh well. That's what makes it "exclusive."However, there's still some juicy stuff in there you'll read for the first time, were you looking for the smoking gun? Yeah, forgot to add that in there. All in due time, a wise man once said to me, what your ears don't hear and your eyes don't see won't accuse you. If you've never heard of the "Silent Majority" you never will. Those are your men.As Juliet would say, "Yet I should kill thee with much cherishing. Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow, That I shall say good night till it be tomorrow."This is the other side of Scott you'll rarely see.Good night.
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In 1983, Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt allegedly offered a hit man $1 million to kill Playboy magazine founder Hugh Hefner, Frank Sinatra, publisher Walter Annenberg and Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione.The $1million was never paid, however, and the purported hit man, Mitchell Werbell, died of a heart attack a short time later. The hits were to take place November, 1983 and on December 1983 Werbell was dead.If you think that's strange, Willaim Pawley was suppose to testify at the HSCA and on January 1977 he was found dead by a self effected gunshot wound, Edwin Kaiser was also suppose to testify and on February 1977 he was found dead at a bottom of a ship, and George de mohrenschildt was also too testify, but on March 1977 he too was found dead.I'd have better odds at playing the lotto!Bill Farley, who worked as director of communications for Playboy, said in 1988 that the plot occurred in November, 1983, and came to light in the course of an investigation into another matter. Farley said his information came from the Sheriff's Department. Although there is a publishing rivalry between the men's magazine publishers, Farley said the other names suggested that was not the case and that the motivation is unknown. No charges were filed against Flynt and his lawyer claimed that the $1million check that Flynt gave a 'hit man' was a joke and that a story that it was payment for killing Frank Sinatra and three publishers was concocted later.In the early 70's my father worked for Mitch WerBell selling arms, my father and Frank Sturgis were no longer helping Hemming sell his guns to anti-Castro Cubans or local law enforcement after Hemming told them to stop representing themselves as employees of Parabellum Inc. WerBell joined the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and served in China, Burma, and French Indochina. He carried out a secret missions for the OSS under the command of Paul Helliwell in China with E. Howard Hunt. In 1966 WerBell helped plan an invasion of Haiti with Rolando Masferrer and Haitian exiles against "Papa Doc" François Duvalier. it was WerBell who financed my father's operation to assassinate Papa Doc.
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Oh, and Myra, if you are by chance referring to my first book regarding my father, I'd say, throw it away, truthfully, too much information had been taken out by the publisher and information plugged in, (not by me), therefore, it doesn't complete the whole story. I have also added MORE than 70 pages of information including documentation.
My next publisher if they publish the book will adhere to not making any changes of this work.
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Thank you Scott. I'm just getting familiar with your father's story.
Myra, you and I could sit for hours and talk, I could tell you things that are not published, and somethings that are published that have not made it's way into the public's eye, there certainly would be no boring moments sitting around the coffee table. I just sent Dustin Flynt a message, I'd be interested if Larry gave up, or would he be interested in hearing what I have to say and look at my documents? It seems to me like it's the only way to get out from underneath the mainstream media who would rather suppress the information. I can't possibly understand how they would want to do that and not be interested in the truth, especially if it's backed by documentation?
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Looks like there's better info here:
http://www.conspiracy-cinema.com/2013/11/theweb.html
According to this Flynt's ad was on the back cover of his LA Free Press.
Apparently they found a proper patsy in Joseph Paul Franklin.
"Franklin & Flynt
Fast-forward to 1977. Joseph Paul Franklin, inspired by his white supramicist beliefs and what he believes to be "the will of God," begins his campaign of violence against minorities. On March 6, 1978, Larry Flynt was shot with a .44 caliber rifle in Lawrenceville, GA. Franklin would later confess to the crime, stating he did it because Flynt's Hustler had recently printed a pictorial featuring an interracial couple.
Is that really the case? Was there another reason to shoot Larry Flynt?
One possible reason emerges from a little-known incident in Flynt's history; one not talked about much by his supporters, his detractors, or in The People vs Larry Flynt. In December 1977, Flynt purchased the LA Free Press, an alternative California newspaper. Flynt wasted little time putting his own spin on the magazine but perhaps not in the way you might think:
The entire issue -- published two weeks before he was shot -- was dedicated to evidence that the CIA was behind the JFK assassination. On the back cover was Flynt's offer of $1 million dollars to anyone with new evidence in the case:
The ad and the offer would be reprinted in mainstream newspapers where Flynt had paid for advertisement.The close timing between Flynt's sudden interest in conspiracy theories and his shooting lead many to question the motives. The observant among you will notice that Flynt was shot in Lawrenceville, GA, which was the home district of Congressman Larry McDonald, who was also head of the ultra-right wing John Birch Society. As we've seen in previous posts, the JBS is near the top of the list of suspects in the Kennedy assassination and has intelligence ties.It bears noting that Flynt didn't learn his lesson. Conspiracy researcher Mae Brussell contacted Flynt in 1983 to inform him of the links between the recently-deceased Larry McDonald and his shooting. Flynt dove into Brussell's research with both feet and quickly started The Rebel, a conspiracy themed magazine featuring Brusell's seminal article, The Nazi Connections to the John F. Kennedy Assassination. Soon after the magazine's publication, Flynt found himself surrounded by a host of characters with intelligence ties: Watergate figure G. Gordon Liddy, intelligence agent and possible "Second Oswald" Gordon Novel, and OSS-man and mercenary Mitchell WerBell II. [Just to bring everything full circle: WerBell actually did run a well-known assassination school in southern Georgia and testified in the trial of the murder of producer Roy Radin, which Maury Terry alleges was committed by the same satanic cult behind the Son of Sam murders.] This tumultuous period in Flynt's life ended with him in a sanitarium, fighting for the company he had built himself. His interest in conspiracies ended after he re-emerged.It was while Flynt was tucked away in an asylum that Franklin confessed to shooting him. Franklin was never a suspect, and the source of most of his 20+ body count is Franklin himself. While in prison he has busied himself confessing to all sorts of crimes, most of which he was never charged with because he was unable to demonstrate sufficient knowledge of the crime to convince authorities he was responsible.Franklin was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic by Dr. Dorothy Lewis, who felt that he was unfit to stand trial. However little time has been spent investigating whether or not he actually committed these crimes or was simply taking the rap for someone else. For what it's worth, Don Black stated on his white supremacist website this week that he had met Franklin in the late-sixties/early-seventies and that the white supremacist groups (the KKK, the Nazi Party) disassociated themselves with him then because of his erratic behavior. Interesting tidbit: Black (also from Alabama) was part of Operation Red Dog, a plot to overthrow the island of Dominica and establish an all-white nation. I shouldn't even have to say this at this point, but Operation Red Dog had ties to American intelligence agencies and the mercenary circles that Mitch WerBell ran in.Did Franklin really shoot Flynt? It's possible. The shooting was similar to the crimes Franklin was known to have committed. His motive is questionable (Flynt had published interracial couples before) and the timing of Flynt's JFK ad is too curious to immediately dismiss, especially given future events.Franklin's reign of (alleged) terror ended in August, 1980. Just a few short months later, another aimless drifter who was a member of the American Nazi Party would rise to national attention after shooting a public figure: John Hinckley, Jr.More on that later."Thank you Myra, this is quite an interesting post, I find it just as interesting as recruiting G. Gordon Liddy, one of the men my father had a photograph of who also infiltrate Flynt's empire. I now wounder just what his role as Giddy, I mean Liddy was, after all, he is was smart enough not to say a word during Watergate, just what does he know about Kennedy? Even in the most strictest of well kept secrets, just what was his role? I knew my father stole and had all their photos for a reason. It was THIS reason my father turned on this country.
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