Jack White

A TV news report from Germany available at: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVc9...) confirmed that the German Military is manipulating the climate in Germany. As a result scientists have filed a lawsuit against the government for climate manipulation. The video concludes, "We can state with a 97% certainty that we have on our hands chemical trails (chemtrails) comprised by fine dust containing polymers and metals, used to disrupt radar signals." The purpose of chemtrails, which are well documented over the United State and other parts of the world, according to researchers, is to manipulate the weather. Karsten Brandt, German meteorologist states, "The Federal Army is Manipulating the Meteorological maps." The disruption of radar signals is the main purpose theorizes Mr. Brandt in the interview. "I was surprised that this artificial cloud was so wide-spread. The radar images are stunning considering the needed tons of dispersed elements - although, the federal army claims that only small amounts of material were propagated. The military heads claim that the substances used are not harmful." Johannes Remmel, German Green party representative states, "The government must provide explanations to the unsuspecting population." While radar is tracking suspicious aircraft, the Germany Military then uses counterfeit satellite imagery to hide their operations.

What a NON-RESPONSE! I point out visual clues as to the limo speed, and Mr. Light refuses to admit he is wrong. Incredible!

There is gravity on the moon, about one-sixth that of earth. The astronots are seen jumping because they were suspended by wires and filmed in slo-mo in a studio on earth. No Apollo missions are likely to have reached the moon. No astronots were exposed to VanAllen radiation because they never left low earth orbit. Jack This, from the guy who once asked how the "astronots" could have carried the Lunar Rover down the steps of the LEM. Too funny. Todd is resorting to fiction again. Officially, the rovers were stowed outside the LMs, just to port of the descent ladder. But there are NO PHOTOS showing this. If I ever said anything about carrying a LM down the ladder, I may have been trying to make a joke...since no believable photos exist of the "stowed" LM. Jack No Jack, it is you who is resorting to fiction. You raised the question, in all seriousness, back on the Della Rosa forum several years back. Somewhere in my files I have a print out of it. I replied and explained it to you and you had nothing to say. And there are PLENTY of photos showing the rover stowed there and being deployed on the moon. Pitiful. OK. I call your bluff. SHOW me the PLENTY OF PHOTOS of rover stowed and being deployed on the MOON. I have examined EVERY photo alleged to be shot on the moon. There is not a single photo among the 5771 such as Todd alleges. Pitiful. Jack All, Jack claims, “There is not a single photo such as Todd alleges.” Jack has absolutely no clue as to what he is talking about. This site … http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html …contains numerous photos of the LRV being fit checked for stowage on the LEM, loading and stowage photos, and even a closeout photo of the LRV packed in the LM. This site… http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15.html …contains numerous video clips of film showing the LRV being deployed. There are no still photos of the deployment as it was a two man job. Todd There are no still photos of the deployment as it was a two man job. This is laughable! It is possible (and was done many times) for one of the actors to PAUSE and take a photo of the OTHER actor doing something. It was a one man job to lower the lanyard to unfold the LRV pallet. It was a one man job to take a photo of the LRV BEFORE AND AFTER LOWERING. The LRV had to be unfolded and assembled, and many parts added. There is no reason for this not being photographed. Both guys had cameras, and could pause at any time to shoot pictures, but did not shoot even one. Also they had a remote camera which could take photos of any action and include both actors in the scene. Todd is WAY OUT OF HIS ELEMENT HERE and ought to tuck his tail and run. Jack

SHOW me the PLENTY OF PHOTOS of rover stowed and being deployed on the MOON. SHOW me the PLENTY OF PHOTOS of rover stowed and being deployed on the MOON. SHOW me the PLENTY OF PHOTOS of rover stowed and being deployed on the MOON. SHOW me the PLENTY OF PHOTOS of rover stowed and being deployed on the MOON. on the MOON

How do you judge speed of the limo in he Zapruder film visually? The best you have for a visual metric is the passing of the background. Problem is photo 101 tells us that the visual blurring of the background is effected more by the actual rate of camera pan than the limo speed. Interestingly, given the way the limo transverses the scene, the camera panning rate play visual tricks. As the limo is filmed near Houston and at the other end near the overpass the actual rate of camera pan is slowed, making the car appear to be going slower than actual speed. Starting from Houston for example the camera panning rare gradually increases until it hits its peak speed right about the 300 frame mark give or take. So even IF the limo were slowing rapidly at this point, the visual clues as to it actual speed...the amount of blur in the background, is being skewed to look faster than reality by the increased rate of camera pan. So in other words, just looking at the film and guessing a the limo speed is a fools errand. Of course please don't take my word for it, go out and try the panning for yourself..... False. There are identifiable and measurable landmarks in many of the frames. Taking measurements and counting frames produces speeds. The most obvious landmarks are the series of painted YELLOW strips on the south curb. Jack

Correct. I was not criticizing...just pointing out the obvious. I was just pointing out that with both cars and Hill moving at the same speed, the movement of the QM does not make Hill move any faster. It is as if all three were standing still and he steps off. Their relative speeds remain ZERO. If all three are moving at 8 MPH when he steps off, their relative speeds remain the same...8 MPH. Hill DOES NOT SPEED UP IN RELATION TO THE CARS JUST BY STEPPING OFF. Only when he starts running does he gain speed faster than the cars. Get it? Jack

Burton of course is aware that I did not "forget to mention" the views were from different missions. My studies were done around ten years ago, which caused him to appear on forums to "debunk" me. He still is making the same non-sequitur answers he did a decade ago. He has yet to show a single photo of a rover from any of three missions still attached to the LM, being lowered, being assembled, being outfitted...BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE. This apparent oversight was likely caused by the weight involved. In one-sixth gravity, two men could easily handle the weight involved. In an earthbound studio however, handling SIX TIMES THE WEIGHT was a chore that was too much for two men...so they skipped it. Think of the photo-op missed. An automotive device unloaded and assembled on the moon! It would have made magazine covers throughout the world. Why would NASA pass up three different opportunities to take such historic photos? Instead there are dozens of repetitive shots of astronots picking up rocks and bunny hopping around, and saluting the flag. Trivial photos instead of HISTORIC SHOTS...a dune buggy being assembled on the moon. (remember, the LRV came folded up and required assembly and outfitting with equipment; not a single photo documents such a historic first!) Jack

I did not "forget to mention" anything. I purposely showed the same view from TWO DIFFERENT MISSIONS to show that they are ALMOST IDENTICAL. What are chances of that? Look at the two views. Explain why the camera viewpoint is identical. Only slight differences in the two studio sets give away that the pix are "from different missions." Jack

There is gravity on the moon, about one-sixth that of earth. The astronots are seen jumping because they were suspended by wires and filmed in slo-mo in a studio on earth. No Apollo missions are likely to have reached the moon. No astronots were exposed to VanAllen radiation because they never left low earth orbit. Jack This, from the guy who once asked how the "astronots" could have carried the Lunar Rover down the steps of the LEM. Too funny. Todd is resorting to fiction again. Officially, the rovers were stowed outside the LMs, just to port of the descent ladder. But there are NO PHOTOS showing this. If I ever said anything about carrying a LM down the ladder, I may have been trying to make a joke...since no believable photos exist of the "stowed" LM. Jack No Jack, it is you who is resorting to fiction. You raised the question, in all seriousness, back on the Della Rosa forum several years back. Somewhere in my files I have a print out of it. I replied and explained it to you and you had nothing to say. And there are PLENTY of photos showing the rover stowed there and being deployed on the moon. Pitiful. OK. I call your bluff. SHOW me the PLENTY OF PHOTOS of rover stowed and being deployed on the MOON. I have examined EVERY photo alleged to be shot on the moon. There is not a single photo among the 5771 such as Todd alleges. Pitiful. Jack

YOU'RE UNINFORMED! TWICE! Come back when you can make a rational, logical, EVIDENTIAL prosecution case. Bald assertions on their own are not evidence. The PHOTO is the EVIDENCE. Neither the left nor right stowage bay has been unloaded, as can be plainly seen! Thus there is NO rover unloaded to leave tracks. Saying that it has been unloaded does not make it so. Saying that NASA says it was unloaded does not make it so. Jack

Right.

NASA is the DEFENDANT in the Moon Hoax Case. All comments by the defendant are self serving and to be disregarded. In the case of the posted photo, there are ROVER TRACKS in the foreground. Yet the photo shows that neither the port nor starboard stowage areas (left and right of the egress ladder) have been "unloaded"...THUS THERE CAN BE NO ROVER AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE TRACKS. Quote NASA all you want. Make any absurd assertions you want. The photo presents a situation WHICH CANNOT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AS SHOWN. No rover, no tracks. Jack

NASA is the DEFENDANT in the Moon Hoax Case. All comments by the defendant are self serving and to be disregarded. In the case of the posted photo, there are ROVER TRACKS in the foreground. Yet the photo shows that neither the port nor starboard stowage areas (left and right of the egress ladder) have been "unloaded"...THUS THERE CAN BE NO ROVER AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE TRACKS. Quote NASA all you want. Make any absurd assertions you want. The photo presents a situation WHICH CANNOT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AS SHOWN. No rover, no tracks. Jack

Thanks for agreeing with me (except for the apples-oranges comment). Once Hill leaves the QM, his speed comes from him, not the QM. He no longer is carried forward by the movement of the QM. My comment was directed to Mark Haley. Jack

There is gravity on the moon, about one-sixth that of earth. The astronots are seen jumping because they were suspended by wires and filmed in slo-mo in a studio on earth. No Apollo missions are likely to have reached the moon. No astronots were exposed to VanAllen radiation because they never left low earth orbit. Jack This, from the guy who once asked how the "astronots" could have carried the Lunar Rover down the steps of the LEM. Too funny. Todd is resorting to fiction again. Officially, the rovers were stowed outside the LMs, just to port of the descent ladder. But there are NO PHOTOS showing this. If I ever said anything about carrying a LM down the ladder, I may have been trying to make a joke...since no believable photos exist of the "stowed" LM. Jack

Are you saying that the speed of the QM propels Hill forward? I believe this is faulty thinking relative to the two vehicles. It is all relative. If Car A is traveling 9mph and Car B is traveling 9mph and Hill is traveling 9mph, then RELATIVELY all are motionless in RELATION to each other, so he would not gain any extra distance by jumping off the QM. Any gain must come from Hill's actions AFTER leaving the QM, since at the start all were motionless compared to each other. If you are on a jetliner traveling 300mph and get up and walk one mph forward, are you walking 301 mph? Relativity. Jack

There is gravity on the moon, about one-sixth that of earth. The astronots are seen jumping because they were suspended by wires and filmed in slo-mo in a studio on earth. No Apollo missions are likely to have reached the moon. No astronots were exposed to VanAllen radiation because they never left low earth orbit. Jack This, from the guy who once asked how the "astronots" could have carried the Lunar Rover down the steps of the LEM. Too funny. Todd is resorting to fiction again. Officially, the rovers were stowed outside the LMs, just to port of the descent ladder. But there are NO PHOTOS showing this. If I ever said anything about carrying a LM down the ladder, I may have been trying to make a joke...since no believable photos exist of the "stowed" LM. Jack

Nearly every day I see chemtrails morph into "cirrus clouds." Winds aloft have a lot to do with the speed of the transformation. The difference between contrails and chemtrails is that contrails EVAPORATE and chemtrails turn into clouds. Jack

There is gravity on the moon, about one-sixth that of earth. The astronots are seen jumping because they were suspended by wires and filmed in slo-mo in a studio on earth. No Apollo missions are likely to have reached the moon. No astronots were exposed to VanAllen radiation because they never left low earth orbit. Jack

The reason I called them chemtrails is that about a month ago I saw about a half dozen similar parallel chemtrail long clouds in the west about sunset...but they were not nearly as numerous as in the Jap video, and did not have the crossing grid. Even if the strange formation was caused by HAARP, the clouds had to come from somewhere. Clouds do not suddenly appear in a blue sky without cause. Jack

Hypocrites.

A very tight grid was overhead as the tsunami rolled ashore. Jack

So?

Maybe your the one who doesn't get it Jack. I don't beleive in alteration, therefore i do not consider it to be a waste of time to study the Zapruder film. Robin. Alteration of the Z film is not a faith based belief. It is a fact. Jack

Yesterday was a blue sky cloud free CHEMTRAIL FREE day. Today was just the opposite. Dozens of chemtrails were laid in bizarre patterns all day by planes flying in formation, mostly parallel, and in bursts instead of long continuous lines. About sunset there were as many as 8 chemtrails parallel in the west, and I watched as the sprays quickly turned into parallel cirrus clouds. I wish I had a time-lapse capability to show the chemtrails morphing into clouds. Jack