Steve Thomas

Bill, Thank you. That helps. If such a meeting as DePugh described in that memo did in fact take place, I wondered why someone with such an obvious Russian-sounding name would have been in attendance. Steve Thomas

Larry, I think that without coming right out and saying so, Jones was telling the HSCA that the files at Fort Sam Houston had been purged. I believe they were purged in the wake of Christopher Pyle's, testifying before Sam Ervin's Senate Subcommittee on Consti­tutional Rights. See: http://www.cmhpf.org/Random Files/senator sam ervin.htm See especially footnotes 20, 21 and 22 of the above article. and a discussion on this Forum called, "The Oswald Files" here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/3155-the-oswald-files/ Steve Thomas

Larry, Thank you for your help. I appreciate it. But, I think I found (sort of) what JFK Exhibit no. 94 was. I haven't actually read it yet, but 94 seems to be a blanket letter used to release various government officials from their oaths of secrecy. The same # 94 was a letter from CIA Deputy Director Frank Carlucci to the Chairman of the House Select Committee on Assassinations releasing E.Howard Hunt and Richard Helms, the Tarasoffs and others at the beginning of their HSCA testimonies. Carlucci was Deputy Director of the CIA from 1978–1981, under CIA Director Stansfield Turner. Steve Thomas

Larry, "Study of the ARRB work on this issue is critical for understanding the confusion, including the fact that the HSCA called the wrong MIG office to interview,..." Yes, if I've learned nothing else, I've learned that understanding command and control, and the proper chain of command and responsibility is crucial for discovering the flow of information. I was reading through the "Agreement for Coordination in the Investigation of all Activities Under the Categories of Espionage, etc." worked out between the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, and the FBI which was originally drafted in 1949 and later revised from time to time with "Supplements", starting on page 27 of CD 852. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249#relPageId=30&tab=page What fascinating reading! I have much studying to do. PS: I had two other questions: 1) When Robert Jones first started testifying, he was handed something called "JFK Exhibit no. 94". Would you know what that was, and how I can locate a copy? 2) Have you ever had a chance to look at the records in the Central Records Facility (which I'm assuming is or was at either Fort Holabird or Fort Meade?) - he said that was where the 112th after-action report might be, or the "Vault Files" that Jones referred to on pp. 47 and 48 of his testimony? http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/unpub_testimony/Jones_4-20-78/html/jones_0047a.htm Jones suggested to the HSCA that they look there, but I can't tell, (at least based on the transcript of that session) if they followed up on his suggestion. Thanks, Steve Thomas

Does anyone know who the person referred to in this memo is? https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=136379#relPageId=2&tab=page Steve Thomas

Larry, What I had in mind was that Section 1-6-3 of the manual for "Protection Coverage For Distinguished Visitors" where it says with respect to the President of the United States, that "Armed OSI Agents may actively participate in this protection regardless of the locale." and "Approval is not required...." https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249&search=OSI#relPageId=44&tab=page Section 1-6-6 of that Manual says that protection of Distinguished Visitors would only exist on air bases, or aboard a USAF aircraft (except as set forth in paragraph 1-6-3 (the President). Steve Thomas

Larry, " tracing any particular group over the decades is a major chore," I'll drink to that! Steve

Larry, Thanks for your reply. In looking into this a little bit, I agree that the OSI referred to in this memo was the Air Force's Office of Special Investigations, which opens up a whole 'nuther area of research. It makes me want to re-think the whole "Secret Service on the Knoll" thingy. I wonder if anyone has ever filed a FOIA request with that office for any files they may have related to JFK's visit to Dallas since they had a Presidential Protection role, and any investigation they undertook in its aftermath. If the 112th was indeed ordered to stand down, I wonder if the Air Force's OSI received the same orders. see p. 4 of CD 852 (Section 1-6-3) https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249&search=OSI#relPageId=44&tab=page I was looking at another memo where instructions were being relayed to a Lt. Col. James Schofield of the OSI's 23rd District Office at Carswell Air Force Base, Fort Worth, requesting an FBI investigation of Max Clark in 1952. (He who welcomed Oswald to Forth Worth on his return from the USSR). From what I can tell, the 112th was constituted, and re-constituted several times in its career, and from what I gather, from 1961 - 1966 it was constituted as the Intelligence Corps Group, with the "Group" part often left off in correspondance. Steve Thomas

I was reading through an FBI report on the Minutemen in Dallas, and at the end of it, it says, "INTC, OSI and the Secret Service has been advised..." I'm pretty sure that the INTC is the 112th Intelligence Corps, but can anyone tell me what the OSI stands for? The closest I can figure out is the Air Force's Office of Special Investigations, but I'm not sure that's right. BTW, this is an interesting little memo: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=136065#relPageId=4&tab=page Steve Thomas

Joseph, Can you give us a synopsis, or anything new that came out? Steve Thomas

Bart, The next time you see Ian, would you tell him I said hello? Steve Thomas

I've been slogging through the DPD Archives and haven't been able to find any Reports of Officers Duties that day from Brian, Westphal or Tarver where they describe making a list of employees names and addresses, which is a shame. Brian testified to the Warren Commission, but only describes searching the TSBD and said, " in fact, I didn't have time to (write a report of the Hosty/Revill conversation) because when I got back there they had a list of names they were going to start checking out and they handed me six of them and says, "Start going and checking here and here and here and checking these people." Tarver and Wetphal did not testify to the WC. Just as an aside, in going through these Reports, I was amazed at the number of TSBD employees who were standing on the Depository steps at the time of the assassination who, when interviewed in February, 1964, said they thought that the shots came from west of the Depository in the direction of the railroad tracks. Steve Thomas

The list of TSBD employees reproduced in CE2003 can also be found in Box 4, Folder# 3, Item# 26 of the Dallas Police Archives, JFK Collection. http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box4.htm and Box 18, Folder# 5, Item# 25 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box18.htm At the same time Revill is preparing a Report of the names and addresses of the TSBD employees, (within 30 minutes of meeting Hosty) he is also preparing a Report to Chief Curry on the Subject Lee Harvey Oswald 605 Elsbeth concerning meeting with James Hosty at 2:50 PM wherein Hosty tells Revill that the FBI knew that Oswald was a communist and that he was “capable of committing the assassination of President Kennedy.” DPD Archives Box 18, Folder# 5, Item# 3. http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box18.htm It seems clear that the pipeline of information showing Oswald living at 1026 N. Beckley is not coming through Revill and Brian. Steve Thomas

Jack Revill's testimony before the Warren Commission (5H42) Mr. DULLES. Could I ask a question? Where did you get this address that you put on of 605 Elsbeth Street, do you recall? Mr. REVILL. Yes, sir; from Detective E. B. Carroll or Detective Taylor. Mr. DULLES. Are they subordinates? Mr. REVILL. No; they are detectives assigned to the special service bureau. One of them works the narcotics squad and one of them is assigned to the vice unit. Mr. DULLES. You never ascertained where they got it? Mr. REVILL. No, sir; this might be the address that they got from Oswald, I do not know. I never even thought about it until you brought up the point that this is not the address. Mr. DULLES. Can you find out where they got this address? Mr. REVILL. Yes, sir; I can. Mr. DULLES. I think that would be useful. I would like to know that. I would like to know where they got this address also. Mr. REVILL. It would have been the same day because this was made within an hour---- p. 47 The CHAIRMAN. I think that is all. Thank you, again, lieutenant. Mr. REVILL. I will attempt to find out on that address, and I shall let Mr. Sorrels know, with Secret Service. Warren Commission Document# 948 is a memo from Sorrels to Inspector Kelley dated May 19, 1964. In that memo, Sorrels says that Revill contacted Sorrels and said that Revill told him he got the 605 Elsbeth address from Bob Carroll. As the driver of the car that took Oswald from the Theater to the police station, Carroll allegedly looked back over his shoulder and read the address off a Dallas Public Library card that had been removed from Oswald's billfold by one of the officers in the back seat. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11344#relPageId=2&tab=page In their after-action reports filed with Chief Curry on December 3rd, neither Caroll (DPD Archives Box 5, Folder# 2, Item# 73), nor Detective E.E. Taylor, Special Services Bureau, Narcotics Section (DPD Archives Box 5, Folder# 2, Item# 81) make no mention of giving Revill Oswald’s address. On top of all this, when the police did arrive at Beckley, they were looking for someone named Harvey Lee Oswald. The housekeeper, Earlene Roberts testified to the Warren Commission, that, “Mr. BALL. Do you remember the day the President was shot? Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; I remember it---who would forget that? Mr. BALL. And the police officers came out there? Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Do you remember what they said? Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, it was Will Fritz' men---it was plainclothesmen and I was at the back doing something and Mr. Johnson answered the door and they identified themselves and then he called me. Mr. BALL. What did they say? Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, they asked him if there was a Harvey Lee Oswald there. Mr. BALL. What did he say? Mrs. ROBERTS. And he says, "I don't know, I'll have to call the housekeeper," and he called me and I went and got the books and I said, "No; there's no one here by that name," and they tried to make me remember and I couldn't, and Mrs. Johnson come in in the meantime and there wasn't nobody there by that name, and Mrs. Johnson said, "Mrs. Roberts, don't you have him?" And, I said, "No; we don't, for here is my book and there is nobody there by that name." We checked it back a year. Mr. BALL. And you didn't have that name you didn't ever know his name was Lee Oswald? Mrs. ROBERTS. No---he registered as O. H. Lee and they were asking for Harvey Lee Oswald. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/robertse.htm CE 2003 located in (24H259) is the list submitted to Captain Gannaway through Jack Revill of TSBD employees. It is dated November 22, 1963. Heading that list is Harvey Lee Oswald at 605 Elsbeth. The Report submitted to Gannaway says it is coming thru Jack Revill. Page 3 of CE 2003, found on page 260, is signed by R.W. Westphal, Detective, Criminal Intelligence Section and P.M. Parks, Detective, Administrative Section. R.W. Westphal and P.M. Parks were both Detectives in the Special Service Bureau. Carroll and Taylor were also Detectives in that Bureau. W.P. Gannaway was the Captain and Revill was one of the Lieutenants. http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf The list of TSBD employees reproduced in CE2003 can also be found in Box 5, Folder# 2, Item#101. The index for this item says that this Intelligence Report was prepared by R.W. Westphal. The list shown in the DPD Archives is only page 1 of CE 2003 and shows the Warren Commission Exhibit page number, so it was included in the DPD Archives after the Warren Report. http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box5.htm Lieutenant Revill told the Warren Commission that he drafted his report within 30 minutes to an hour of when he and Hosty had their conversation in the basement (5H39). The list of employees and their addresses were drawn up by Westphal and Parks, but Revill said he got the address from Bob Carroll. If, for the sake of argument, Revill got the Elsbeth address from Carroll, where did the name Harvey Lee Oswald come from? That's not the name on the library card. Unless Revill or Westphal got the name wrong as well as the address. Steve Thomas Steve Thomas

Michael, Yes, but my initial question was not "how", but "why. Was he fleeing, or was he doing something else? And why that corner of Field and Elm? If he was walking just to catch any old bus, the McWatters bus wasn't the first bus he would have encountered, McWatters said that there were a whole bunch of buses tied up. And, if my memory serves me right, the McWatters bus wouldn't have taken him past his house on Beckley anyway. We'll never really know. Steve Thomas

Ron, I had to smile. If you do a simple google search asking the question, "Did the power go off in the TSBD?", you see that people have been debating this for years. It looks like it comes down to a matter of interpretation when Geneva Hine, who is alone in the second floor offices said, " Miss HINE. Yes, sir: I was alone until the lights all went out and the phones became dead because the motorcade was coming near us and no one was calling..." Was she talking about the lights in the building, or just the lights on her telephone? And just because the motorcade was coming "near us", doesn't mean that people in New York or Wichita or Abilene would quit calling. After she witnessed the assassination, she went back to her office and on the way, Miss HINE. And there was a girl in there talking on the telephone and I could hear her but she didn't answer the door. Miss HINE. I called and called and shook the door and she didn't answer me because she was talking on the telephone; I could hear her. They have a little curtain up and I could see her form through the curtains. I could see her talking and I knew that's what she was doing and then I turned and went through the back hall and came through the back door. Mr. BALL. Of your office, the second floor office? Miss HINE. Yes; and I went straight up to the desk because the telephones were beginning to wink; outside calls were beginning to come in. I wonder who "that girl" was. I don't think you can dispute the fact that the elevators quit working though. Steve Thomas

Ron, I'm pretty sure. I'll have to back and research it, but I remember the testimony of a policeman or two who had to get off the elevator going up and use the stairs, 'cause the elevator stopped moving, and I think I remember a secretary saying that the power went off for about five minutes or so. VICTORIA ADAMS, trying to get back into the building - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor. Miss ADAMS - I tried to get the (freight) elevator to go to the fourth floor, but it wasn't operating, so the gentlemen lifted the elevator gate and we went out and ran up the stairs to the fourth floor. Jack Dougherty talks about using the "push button" elevator to come down from one of the upper floors after the shots, so it would have to be from the time Dougherty came down and Adams tried to go back up that the elevators quit working. Steve Thomas

I, along with a lot of other people over the years, have been puzzled by the idea that, after the assassination of JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald would leave the TSBD, walk several blocks east on Elm St., and catch a bus heading back west towards the TSBD and Dealey Plaza. This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, unless... What if Lee was trying to contact someone and let them know about the assassination? I know that the power went out in the TSBD right after the assassination. Did that include the telephones too? I seem to have a memory of one of the secretaries at the TSBD testifying to the WC that the phones went out too. I was reading through the transcripts of the HSCA "Critics Conference" in 1977. This was a fascinating group of people that included, Sylvia Meagher, Mary Ferrell, Paul Hoch, Peter Dale Scott, Josiah Thompson, Gary Shaw, et.al and I ran across these references: Transcript of HSCA Critics' Conference of 17 Sep 1977 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10375&search=%22Charles_T.+Brecht%22#relPageId=1&tab=page Mary Ferrell, p. 206: Oswald got on the bus in front of the Rio Grande Building headed back toward Houston and Oak Cliff. Gary Shaw p. 179: “Pat Russell, DeMohrenschildt's attorney officed in the same building with the Army Intelligence Fourth Division.” Ms. Ferrell: “Up there in the Rio Grande Building? I didn't know that.” The Rio Grande Building, 251 N. Field St. was a 297 ft. tall, 19 story building in downtown Dallas now known as the Rio Grande Life Building. The street address was changed to 249 N. Field St. It was one block north of Elm St. https://www.emporis.com/buildings/118467/rio-grande-life-building-dallas-tx-usa It has been demolished? http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=40597 This is what I have come up with so far. The Rio Grande Building was at 251 N. Field St. Oswald wrote to the INS at 251 N. Field in 1962 about June's citizenship status. She was classified as an "alien" and Lee wanted her status to be changed to a U.S. citizen. The INS had an office at 1402 Rio Grande Building https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11246&relPageId=35&search=Rio_Grande Building On April 1, 1964, Miss Brenda Route, Deputy Clerk, Domestic Relations Court, Dallas County, Texas, advised SA James Hosty...that on November 13, 1963, Mrs. Ruth Paine filed a petition for divorce from Michael Paine citing “cruel and tyrannical treatment” that made living together impossible. No action was taken, and after six months the matter was automatically dismissed by notice to the attorney, which in this case would be Raggio and Raggio, 734 Rio Grande Building, Dallas, Texas. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1199&search=Rio_Grande+Building#relPageId=50&tab=page In her Orleans Parish testimony, Ruth said that it was the firm of Roggio and Roggio in the Rio Grande Building. Her lawyer was a woman. The 112th INTC Region II office was at 912 Rio Grande Building. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=96524&relPageId=59&search=Rio_Grande%20Building James Powell's statement, April 12, 1996. Taken in California by Timothy A. Wray, ARRB Chief Analyst for Military Records Powell: That's what the other agents were doing except for those that, there was always a staff in the building ­ in this case the Rio Grande Building ­ and there were probably three or four of those people there at the time when I had my time off. The other agents were just out doing their regular job. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=77654&relPageId=20&search=Rio_Grande Building The owners of the Republic Investment Company, located at 848 Rio Grande Building were suspected of bookmaking operations in Dallas with close ties to Campisi and Vincent Marcello of New Orleans. See also https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83307&relPageId=6&search=Rio_Grande%20Building concerning an investigation of James Henry Dolan. Dolan was also connected to the people at the Republic Investment Company. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=141087&search=Rio_Grande+Building#relPageId=2&tab=page is a March 26, 1965 letter from Gordon Shanklin to Lieutenant Colonel Roy Pate of the 112th INTC at Room 912 of the Rio Grande Building referencing two copies of a letterhead memo on the Dallas/Fort Worth Minutemen Club. The letterhead memo is not attached. The referenced memo is a summary of a separate memorandum previously submitted. (I only include this letter to show that the FBI was sharing information on the Dallas Minutemen with the 112th INTC) William Kelly wrote in the Education Forum on Posted March 12, 2014 that the Secret Service had their office in the Rio Grande Building. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/21070-view-from-the-snipers-nest/#comment-285539 Jack White posted in the Education Forum on Posted August 7, 2006 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/7628-order-in-the-courts/#comment-71655 “The SS may have been in the "federal building/postal annex" on the south edge of Dealey Plaza. I seem to remember that the FBI was in the Rio Grande Building several blocks east of the plaza. Or maybe it was vice versa.” What if Lee Oswald went to the Rio Grande building looking for someone, couldn't find them, and got back on a bus to go back home? (That's assuming the bus story is true. He could have gotten stalled in traffic, got off the bus, and hitched a ride with someone he recognized in a Rambler station wagon, or got in the Waley cab - if the Rambler story isn't true) If anyone else has info on the occupants of the Rio Grande Building, I'd appreciate it. Steve Thomas

Well Chris, it sort of begs the question. If Oswald wasn't at the places the official record says he was, then where was he? I've come to believe that the whole Mary Bledsoe, 621 Marsalis sojurn was a total lie. She testified to the WC on April 2, 1964 and based her testimony on notes that she had composed the week before. She said in her testimony, "I've forgotten what I was supposed to say". If Oswald wasn't at Marsalis in the week after he moved out of the YMCA, where was he? I've been toying with the idea that Marina lived on Neely, but Lee didn't, and that he was telling the truth when he denied to Fritz and Bookhout, et.al that ever lived on Neely. I've found three times where Marina said she was living on Neely in January. She corrected that later, but it makes me wonder. Ruth Paine said she visited Marina on Neely, but if my memory serves me right, whenever Ruth came there, Marina was there, but Lee wasn't. The Tobias's spoke about a time when several men came to Elsbeth and moved Marina out, "for a while". They didn't know when she returned. George DeMohrenschildt talked about "taking Marina away" from Lee and said that they took her to several White Russian friends, but I don't know. Steve Thomas

I posted a thread on the Reopen the Kennedy Case Forum that postulated that we don't have rent receipts or a tenant registry for ANYWHERE the official record said he lived. There aren't any for the Neely St. address. The Tobias rent for receipts for the Elsbeth St. residence weren't entered into evidence. The calendar page for October, 1963 was torn out of Mary Bledsoe's calendar, Mr. Johnson forgot to bring the receipt book when she testified to the WC. All she had was a scrap of paper that had the name O.H. Lee on it. And, I don't remember the Tobias rent receipts or the Beckley St. receipts listed among the evidence the Dallas Police turned over to the FBI. Did I miss those? I have been looking, and to the best of my knowledge, aside from the YMCA logs for November, 1962 and October, 1963, I can't find tenant registers or rent receipts for ANY place Lee Oswald ever lived. Unless I'm mistaken, we don't have any written verification that Oswald ever lived at any of the places the official record says he did. Steve Thomas

Thomas, FWIW, as the driver of the Rambler, my money is on Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro of the house on Harlandale fame. On April 1, 1964 Roger Craig testified before the WC, and told them, "Mr. BELIN - What about the man who was driving the car? Mr. CRAIG - Now, he struck me, at first, as being a colored male. He was very dark complected, had real dark short hair, and was wearing a thin white-looking Jacket..." http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/craig.htm Pull up a close-up picture of the "Dark Complected Man" sitting on the curb in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. In 2014, Richard Douglas posted a series of photos of the Dark Complected Man in the jfkassassinationforum here: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=da10693a75f6fceb0ce372badd010bff&topic=11687.0 Would you say that this man is 5'11", 158 lbs, has brown hair, wears dark glasses, and has a dark complexion? The physical description provided above is not that of the Dark Complected Man, but of Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro. See 5/26/64 FBI Report of SA Wallace Heitman, page 5 http://www.maryferre...p;relPageId=223 If you're interested, I once wrote an essay on a "Possible Rambler Lead" that you can read here: http://stevethomas.weebly.com/ And this kind of ties in with what Paul has been saying. Bobby Joiner, who was arrested at the Trade Mart, said in a newspaper interview that some of the signs displayed at the Stevenson incident were stored at Walker's residence on Turtle Creek. Raphel Quintana and Raoul Castro, officers of the Dallas Alpha 66 SNFE, told the FBI that they had attended the Stevenson incident. Raoul Castro owned a Rambler and Quintana tried to get rid of the "Kill the Kennedy Klan" bumper sticker. Steve Thomas

Paul, I'm sorry to have strayed so far from the original topic about the Jack Martin film. I didn't really mean to do that. You wrote, "He started at the YMCA, and he couldn't use that address. Then, his first rooming landlady kicked him out after a few days, and I think that took Oswald by surprise." The only witness in this case worse than Helen Markham is Mary Bledsoe. There was that whole false scenario about seeing Oswald on the bus after the assassination, and isn't there a fake police report out there about Ruby and Oswald getting into a fight at her rooming house where the police had to be called? I don't trust a thing she says. I see a pattern of Oswald going from the YMCA to North Beckley - twice. Once in late 1962 when he leaves the YMCA, disappears for two weeks and finally settles on Elsbeth. Gary Taylor is looking for him in the North Beckley neighborhood and believes him to be living at the Coz-I. The second time when he returns from Mexico, lives at the YMCA for several days, and goes looking for a place to live on North Beckley. It really makes me wonder if there wasn't something significant about that neighborhood. You wrote, "My guess is that this wasn't a code or a clue -- I think that Oswald was simply in a hurry to fill out his application, and he wanted a fake address, and 1306 N. Beckley came to his mind quickly, and he deliberately jumbled the address to 3610 N. Beckley. If it had been an error, or mere dyslexia, only two digits would have been reversed. But here the numbers are clearly shuffled. So I believe this was a hasty but deliberate forgery of an address that Oswald knew good and well was not his new address on November 1, 1963." I guess that was my question. Why did 1306 N. Beckley "come to his mind quickly"? If he was deliberately trying to hide his identity, he could have made up any old address as his home address on the P.O. Box application. Why use that one, and then screw it up so badly? Having lived in that neighborhood in late, 1962, going to the laundromat, eating in restaurants, studying the bus schedules, possessing several maps of the Dallas area, he had to have known that Beckley didn't go out that far. So why draw attention to it, and do it in such a way that is easily discovered to be false? It's weird. Steve Thomas

Paul, I agree. As far as the "deliberate jumble", it's not a very creative one is it? Or, is it a clue that was meant to be found? Steve Thomas

Paul, For whatever it's worth, I believe that military intelligence had SOME kind of operation going on in Dallas. But was it the 112th? or the Army Reserves via Whitmeyer, Lumpkin et.al? or the 507th Army Security Agency? I don't know. They all had different chains of command and reporting requirements; but I believe that there was SOMETHING going on. That's a nut I haven't been able to crack. Steve Thomas

Paul, The significance of 3610 N. Beckley on Oswald's application for P.O. Box 6225 would only relate to Gary Taylor's WC testimony that he thought Oswald was living at the Coz-I-Eight apartments at 1306 N. Beckley during two weeks of October 19 - November 3, 1962 when Oswald went "missing". So far, I've found three instances where Oswald transposed numbers: 1) The P.O. Box number stamped on the Fair Play for Cuba pamphlets in New Orleans, 2) The home address listed on his P.O. Box application for Box 6225, 3) The social security number he wrote down on his Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall job application. Are these the result of: 1) haste? 2) sloppiness? 3) a medical condition? 4) deliberate obfuscation? I think we ought to look at every number Oswald ever wrote down. As far as knowing how the police first learned of 1026 N. Beckley, my conclusion was that that information came from military intelligence. See: Steve Thomas