David G. Healy

Ron wrote:

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http://www.hobrad.com/osborne.htm

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Ron,

Took a trip around your site and related articles -- great place, like the article from Oswald, masterful job of condensing 40+ years of political Americana --

Nice job!

David Healy

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It sounds like Taylor had a problem delegating authority or working with others. If an important problem was presented to him, he liked to handle it himself. This may have applied even if there was a shared decision as to what to do. He saw himself as the one to do it.

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Not so sure I agree. From the public standpoint; when one hears about, or decisions from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Of Staff, the collective decision making is over. The ONLY thing left to discuss; will the budget stand it! He's got the opinions he's sought (probably to support his own contentions and military experience). These guys had/have huge staffs, in my estimation if there is any delegation problem, it's the opposite of the above - they tend to delegate too much...

David Healy

TimG wrote:

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If I recall correctly Lansky was out of the country when JFK was shot.

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So was Fidel...

John Dolva wrote:

they are from costello site, its the best I could find, I'd prefer to be working with an uncorrected unenhanced set though. any idea of where to get one short of taking a sledgehammer to the sixth floor museum?

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John's images [off of the MPI dvd] are corrected for barrel distortion, pin cushioning AND deblurring - they're the best set out there -- Quite frankly as they stand John will tell you himself, the MPI images are fraught with problems, a long list of problems...

We did a whole book on Z-film problems and possibilites, some which included compositing and optical film printing...

http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/hoax/

above might give you alternate idea concerning the Z-film...

to be released in the next few weeks a 6 party seminar on DVD concerning the same subject

John Dolva wrote:

background for early sequence. I'm working on the SS guys as well.

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Good John -- I look forward to that series, especially if it has the motorcyclists too.

On further question, the Z-film frame images, are they from the MPI dvd or those from Jim Fetzer's site; the John Costella cut?

Thanks...

David Healy

John Dolva wrote:

following on from an earlier 'z film' post , here's a composite showing john and jackie in relative positions, this is prob better in that it shows all of john's body and more clearly the limo edge. the other one is better for showing how the composite was built. also this shows more the distortions in the peripheral ghost images, plus removes some of the mysteries about what the images represent. (IMO)

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Interesting John -- the object of your composite might be? A question: although a latter day graphics compositing process/technique, how'd you blend the background imagery [south of Elm Street - the grass area] from frame to frame ...

I'd be interested in seeing the same process done for the sprocket hole area, in particular the motorcycles in relationship to the SS vehicle/jfk Limo...

Nice work by-the-way!

David Healy

Welcome home Mr. Purvis

Most of it? hmm... what's to doubt?

David Healy

Might want to buy a map!

Frankfort 'tis the capitol with an 'o'

Ron wrote:

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One other thought. If Taylor was in Dallas and his presence had come to light, he had a legitimate excuse to use for being there.

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Hi Ron,

I'm not sure, I do think your checking this out in the correct fashion, via immediate post assassination moves made by the Sect'y of Defense and with whom. I can't believe (which doesn't make it true) the Sect'y of Defense would NOTknow where his uniformed sidekick was, 24/7.

Ron Ecker wrote:

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If Taylor was there, he was there to decide on the spot if there was going to be a smooth transition of power ("The Constitution works!") or martial law in America.

"The Constitution worked."

That's how I see it for now.

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Taking the pulse of America on Nov 22nd '63 from Dealey Plaza seems a bit naive, if you ask me. I wasn't stateside when the assassination happened. However, it was business as usual in southeast asia for the next few months...

For America, immediately following the assassination, I suspect and been told -- STUNNED is the appropriate word, all across America. I'd say the American public was pliable the following months, subject to anything that came from the WH. No, ZERO martial law required.

Having Taylor, a "full" US Army General in harms way during a field operation, coup or otherwise, won't happen. Hell, if I was that General I'd think TWICE before I'd be there and think 3-4 times more if REQUESTED to be there. I might be the intended target, too! Who better to get out of the way at the same time? The Military CIC (Commander-in-Chief, the President) and his military forces commander, Taylor...

Carol Reid wrote:

Since my original post, I have been directed to THIS WEBSITE, where I found some additional info regarding Oswald's reentry from Russia.

The info on this website is taken from the Warren Commission Report. Part of the loan info is quoted below:

" After his reentry, Oswald repaid his loan without having to be reminded by the Department to do so. The early payments were very small because he first repaid the approximately $200 he had borrowed from his brother Robert to apply against the expenses of his travel from New York to Fort Worth, Tex. The schedule of payments is as follows:

Aug 13, 1962 10.00

Sep. 5 1962 9.71

Oct. 10 1062 10.00

Nov. 19 1962 10.00

Dec. 11 1962 190.00

Jan. 8 1062 100.00

Jan 28 1962 106.00

Total: 435.71"

Note the amount of the last 3 payments. I am assuming that the last payment was made in January of 1963, rather than 1962, and that this is a typo. I am going to do some more digging.

dgh01: 20 years ago a long standing investigator (whose no longer with us) told me, the only document(s) you need to make the WCReport look foolish, is: the Warren Commssion Report and the attendent volumes itself -- his original words were much more colorful than that --

Yes, typos abound everywhere -- Evidently ole Lee harvey Oswald came into a few bucks in Dec '62 -- considering I was in the US Army at the time, LHO was making some pretty good bucks for a repatrioted ex-patriot, Herbert 'I Led 3 Lives' Philbrick wannabe!

One of the most extensive studies on this guy LHO was finished a year or so ago, the book is available for purchase at www.JFKResearch.com

Rumor has it that a friend David Lifton, his book on Oswald nearly completed...

It will be interesting to find out where he was working during the three months that these large payments were supposedly made. My husband and I were newly married and living on one minimum wage income (his) during 1963. Payments of this size would have been next to impossible for us at that time. This may be a trivial point, but it interests me, as I have always believed that Oswald was connected in some way to either the FBI or the CIA.

dgh01: there are NO trivial points and your interest is indeed, well founded.

David

fascanating subject, Carol - one I've wondered about but never looked into - other than NO debriefing upon his return to the continental US - I'll be interested in any followup...

David Healy

Mark Stapleton wrote:

Greg,

Great article. I read that the US Military is now offering a 40K sign on fee. It's desperation time.

dgh01: I wouldn't go so far as 'desperation time.' In certain MOS's its critical, but that's the way it was during the Vietnam era, I know, it was offered to me as a "re-enlistment bonus", if you want/need good qualified folks, you gott'a pay them, and the US government WILL pay them.

You can't let them do this of course and the blame lies squarely with the US Govt. It seems like there's no civilian government in the US, it's more like a Pentagon/White House Government with the Pentagon the senior partner. Been that way since about 1963.

dgh01: how about 1865, without the term Pentagon. Was called something else in those day's. For that matter you can throw in as a full partner, the fledgeling US banking industry -- Nevada was not admitted to the union because of its desert enviorns, but its silver (the states nickname is the SILVER State) paid for a damn good piece of the civil war [the union side]

Iraq will bleed Washington dry. The US is already heavily in debt.

dgh01: nah, we'll follow Ronny Reagan's lead, we'll just print more

Then there's oil. The US consumes 18 million barrels a day, while Japan is second, consuming about 4.8 million barrels. China and India are increasing their consumption rapidly, causing the price to rise with no realistic limit, since it's a rapidly dwindling non renewable resource. The economies of all countries are, to differing extents, built on oil. The US economy is by far the most exposed to oil price shocks.

dgh01: want a simple indicator as to what US policy (10-15 year) will be toward the middle east (sans Israel). Watch Detroit

China, Japan, South Korea and India all have strong economies but are less exposed to oil price rises because of their much lower consumption. The EU also threatens the US economy.

dgh01: 10-15 years from now, If we're all still around - the OIL problem will be THEIR'S, the US economy will go merrily along - watch Detroit

The only two alternatives which will prevent a US economic collapse are to rapidly find a way to decrease oil consumption or to move into the Middle East and secure oil for the next fifty years. All this and George Bush till 2008.

TGratz wrote:

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Whoever it was (and again I think it was Ayers) saw the Cuban rifleman use a rifle to kill a comorant at sufficient distance to impress Ayers. No proof this was connected with the assassination. The book notes, however, that when Ayers heard of the assassination he immediately thought of the sniper he had witnessed on Pt Mary.

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Ahem, you win many cases down your way? Just curious.

TGratz wrote:

What if a list of all such still classified documents were assembled and a "full court press" was undertaken to force their release?

Who is responsible at this time to make the decision whether to release the documents? I suspect in most cases it is the agency that generated the documents. But who decides (before judicial intervention) whether HSCA records should be released?

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try contacting John Judge and/or Bill Kelly at COPA. I've heard, they're compiling/creating a archive of JFKassassination related material -- I suspect if anyone knows, they do!

BELL Heicopter made a remarkable recovery, AFTER the assassination. The brink of bankruptcy to producing thousands of the UH-1 series helicopters - made famous or infamous during the Vietnam war...

I believe Collins Radio, the same?

Dillions personal investments were more than likely, atypical, for the head of a Wall St., company. I suspect the REAL money was in bond creation and trading syndicates. His investment/trading house is what I'd find interesting - say, new public offerings, what issues [stock] were his and other Wall Street firms pushing for the days/weeks, months following the assassination...

Mark wrote:

What a tantrum.

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I agree --

We have a saying where I grew up: if you're going to step on your schwantz, take your golf shoes OFF - won't hurt so much

Welcome Home, Tom Purvis -- and welcome to the FORUM

David Healy

MAAG-Vietnam '63 - '64

Tim Gratz wrote:

But who do you suppose caused the Communists to spend themselves into ruin on their military budget? One hint: his initials were RR. From what I have read, Reagen knew exactly what he was doing in his military build-up and Star Wars program. He intended the result he got.

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Shall I be the one to tell you: there were other President's during the Cold War! Reagan, but, was ONE of them. What did Reagan know-have, that other US President's didn't? Timing (luck), a pure sense of theatrics, not to mention a willing partner in Gorbachev...Reagan knew what he was suppose to know. That being, what he was told by the CIA, amongst others -- yep, that ole gun-toting Hollywood buckeroo brought down the USSR all by his lonesome... rofl

Much none sense -- nonesense like the CIA missed the collapse of the Soviet Union. "Caught unawares" was the term, I believe.... yeah, right!

Tim Gratz wrote:

I apologize for the misspelling; I know I did it before. I used to have a friend named "Healey" so that spelling is probably imbedded.

accepted

Substantively, I take you that you admit you have not read Ted Sorenson's biography of JFK.

I also note you once labeled a Keys newspaper "a rag". Tell me that you have ever seen a copy of it? I think all your name-calling speaks volumes of you, sir.

of course I've been to the website -- in search of who you are -- most of my media associates refer to newspapers as **rags** -- after 35+ years of 'big market' involvement in media I don't find the term offensive...

I respect many people whose views on the assassination differ greatly from mine because they are well-read and use logical arguments.

well, views about the assassinaton are one thing, finding the answer is another ball game -- you got RC-D here, one of the most respected researchers, if you want to keep the audience might be a good idea to deliver. 'Logical argument'? Your mining for info Mr. Gratz...most of the folks hereabouts are polite enough to help you -- What do you do in return? Obfuscate! Did I spell that right?

I have little use for people who have not read the basics and stoop to name-calling. Sorry.

your sounding like a graduate of the .john McAdams school of public charades, are you?

Gratz wrote:

G. David Healey wrote:

While Dillon was obviously a family friend, they were from opposing political tribes, ostensibly with different support bases and they were two decades apart in age but he's got them as blood brothers. Dear oh dear.

Which makes it obvious that Mr. Healy, like Mark, has not read Sorenson's biography of JFK. From Sorenson's POV, Dillon was one of JFK's closest friends and one of the Cabinet members whose counsel he most respected.

I think John should require as a condition of posting on this forum that posters have read at least the basic biographies of JFK: certainly Sorenson and Scheslinger.

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You gott'a get your "quotes" straightened out there pal - add to that, you can't quite figure out how to spell my last name correctly. I find that down right offensive, but you're not the first --

I suspect your time might be better spent posting things requested of you. Should keep you busy for the next year or so. As to what's required of poster here? Who gives a damn what a blowhard [especially one so consumed with himself] from down yonder in the Keys has to say about ANYTHING... in some quarters your credibility is sinking, FAST.

Mark wrote:

I agree. The naivety of Tim's statement is incredible. His hysterical overreaction to the mere suggestion of Dillon's foreknowledge only reinforces my suspicions. While Dillon was obviously a family friend, they were from opposing political tribes, ostensibly with different support bases and they were two decades apart in age but he's got them as blood brothers. Dear oh dear.

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Mark,

Let me join with another -- you ever get to Las Vegas or the Reno-Tahoe let me know, dinner is on me!

David

TGratz wrote:

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Gee, Mark, I guess it just comes down to good old common sense and everyday experience: a person does not kill his friend.

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Thank GOD you're not a historian - then again most published historians dropped the ball regarding DP events and the follow-on WCReport, so, maybe you ARE a historian...

ALL plowed ground, folks! I don't think John F. Kennedy had many 'friends' other than his immediate family, next the immediate Irish Mafia. Next in order of importance: the political allies pal's - croonies (which I suspect, leigon), finally the hangeroner's and the gal's, most of the latter wishing for that elusive PRESIDENTAL friendship...

Who actually believes Wall Street isn't one phone call to the president? Did Joe Sr. intro Dillion to JFK? Did Dillion head to the Cape to throw the ball around on weekends? Was he treated as a peer, ally or a politically expedient guy. What did Dillion have that Kennedy needed, in friendship? maybe references for a good 'broker', perhaps?

I suspect any Dillion friendship (tenuious at best) may of been with Joe Sr., not JFK. Joe Sr. as the initial head SEC makes, well, more sense...

Concerning the use of good old "common sense" -- well, with a conservative dose of same, figure another 40+ years before anyone gets to the bottom of this cold blooded murder...

John wrote:

Great article. Where did it appear?

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Counterpunch 06-08-05

http://counterpunch.com/hougan06082005.html

David Healy

Ron wrote:

Yes, that's who usually calls such things a constitutional crisis. I must admit that I let the brainwashed part of my mind speak in this instance. Fortunately I think most of my mind remains dirty.

But then didn't Bill Clinton say that he "saved the Constitution" by managing to stay in office? Ha ha ha ha ha.

what would we do without these tremendous EGO'S

I enjoy your postings Ron -- KUTGW!

David Healy

Ron