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Thanks, Tommy, for answering..... But I have to ask the same question again that you said you'd NEVER answer. . . . . .
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The moon isn't made of green cheese, but...
Why didn't the Social Security Admin recognize any of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teen-aged employment?
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Will you ever answer this simple question, Tommy?
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C'mon, Tommy....
Please tell us why didn't the Social Security Admin recognize any of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teen-aged employment?
Please give us an answer or two. We're waiting!!!
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Sorry, Tommy,
The moon isn't made of green cheese, but...
Why didn't the Social Security Admin recognize any of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teen-aged employment?
Will you ever answer this simple question?
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C'mon, Tommy, PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Why didn't the Social Security Admin recognize any of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teen-aged employment?You've been ducking this issue for a long time. It's time to step up to the plate and take a swing!Just do it! -
Hey, Tommy,
Why didn't the Social Security Admin recognize any of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teen-aged employment?
You've been ducking this question for a long time.
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Harvey and Lee
I. The Fraudulent 1956 Tax Return
From Harvey and Lee, pp. 154-155:
February--Oswald's 1956 income tax return
Following the assassination of President Kennedy, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover
notified the Warren Commission that Oswald's 1955 tax return had been routinely de-
stroyed by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). They allegedly obtained a copy of his
1956 Federal income tax return (Commission Exhibit 90a) from the IRS on December
16, 1963, two days before the Commission requested they obtain the records.
The 1956 return was allegedly filled out by Oswald, signed, and mailed to the
IRS on February 7, 1957. The return was allegedly received by the District Director of
the Internal Revenue office in Fort Worth, Dallas, TX. the following day, February 8.57-03
NOTE: It is difficult to believe the return was mailed from Camp Pendleton, Califor-
nia on February 7, 1957 and received in Dallas only one day later, on February 8,
1957.
The 1956 tax return (short form) given to the Warren Commission listed three
employers (J.R. Michels, Gerard F. Tujague, Pfisterer Dental Lab), their addresses,
gross wages, and withholding taxes. The information listed on this return is identical
with the income listed on the fabricated W-2 forms for J.R. Michels, Gerard F. Tujague,
Inc., and the Pfisterer Dental Lab. At first glance there appears to be no reason to
question either the single page tax return or the W-2 forms. On closer inspection, however,
there are enough errors and omissions to suggest that the 1956 return, like the W-2 forms, was
fabricated.
One error was the address listed for the J.R. Michels Company. On the 1956
return it was listed as 805 American Bank Bldg., but their office was located at on the 2nd
floor of 442 Canal Street in the Sanlin Building.
NOTE: The address on Oswald's 1956 income tax return and address on the J. R.
Michels W-2 form was the same address listed on cancelled payroll check which Nick
Mazza gave to the FBI on November 25, 1963; it was not the companies business
address at 442 Canal Street.
The most significant error, however, was that the return failed to include Oswald's
Marines Corps earnings of $111.00 on his 1956 tax return.6 It is difficult to believe that
Oswald, who had been in the Marines for the past 4 1/2 months and was in the Marines
when he allegedly signed and mailed the return, forgot to include this income. His Ma-
$111.00, was more than he allegedly earned from Gerard F. Tujague, Inc.
($80.46) or J.R. Michels ($80) in 1956.
Oswald's Marine Corps income may not have been included on the fabricated
1956 return for one simple reason. When the return was given to the Warren Commis-
sion, in December 1963, Oswald's income from the Marines was unknown. In fact,
Oswald's Marine Corps earnings remained unknown for the next 9 months. In Sep-
tember, 1964 the Department of the Navy finally provided certified payroll records to
the Commission. 57-04
According to information on the 1956 tax return, Oswald should have received
a refund check in the amount of $64.70. Yet the FBI apparently made no attempt to
obtain a copy of the cancelled check, nor is there any indication that either Oswald or
Marguerite received or cashed such a check.
NOTE: The alleged refund check of $64.70 represented most of the federal income tax
that was allegedly withheld by J.R. Michels, Tujague's. and Pfisterer's. But if Oswald
never worked at Pfisterer's in 1956, then the IRS could not have issued a refund check
which consisted mostly of withholding taxes from Pfisterer's. In all probability, Oswald
never received a refund chick in the amount of $64.70, because one was never issued.
Once again, we see evidence that the FBI failed to conduct an honest investigation into
Oswald's background and we understand why. The purpose of the fabricated W-2 form,
and the fabricated 1956 tax return (one page short form), was simply to create the
illusion that Oswald worked at the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in 1956, instead of 1957-58
as reported by Palmer McBride.
II. The Fraudulent 1956 W-2 Forms
All the U.S. Government's “evidence” about “Lee Harvey Oswald's” employment in 1956 by J.R. Michels, Tujaques, Dolly Shoe and Pfisterer Dental Lab is fabricated, just like the so called 1956 tax return allegedly filled out by “Lee Harvey Oswald” which failed to include his Marine Corps income. Below is John's write-up explaining how and why the J.R. Michels W-2 form was fabricated.
From Harvey and Lee, pp. 138-140:
J. R. Michels W-2 form
According to the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police found the J. R. Michels
W-2 form among Oswald's possessions after the assassination. Each item found by Dallas
Police officers was initialed, dated, listed on their handwritten inventory, typed at Dallas
Police headquarters, and later printed in the Warren Volumes as Stovall Exhibit A & B
(items found at the Paine residence) and Turner Exhibit #1 (items found at 1026 N.
Beckley), and photographed. But the J.R. Michels W-2 form in the National Archives was not
initialed by Dallas Police officers, was not dated, was not listed on their inventory, and was not
photographed on the floor of the police station on November 22 or November 23.
Oswald's possessions were secretly removed from Dallas Police headquarters on
November 23 and taken to FBI headquarters in Washington, DC. The J.R. Michels W-
2 form was created between November 23 and November 25, probably at FBI headquar-
ters where it was initialed by laboratory technician Robert Frazier ("RF"). It was then
included among the items of evidence that were secretly returned to the Dallas Police
on November 26. The fabricated J.R. Michels W-2 form was then photographed by the
Dallas Police, and listed as item 175 on the joint FBI/Dallas Police inventory of Novem-
ber 26, 1963.5 The "items of evidence," including the J.R. Michels W-2 form, were then
returned within a few hours to FBI headquarters in Washington.
The joint Dallas Police/FBI inventory, published in Warren Volume 24, p. 334,
gave the J.R. Michels W-2 form the appearance of "legitimacy." In reality the J.R.
Michels W-2 form, and many other items of evidence, were fabricated in Washington,
DC while Oswald's possessions were in FBI custody from November 23-25, 1963.
NOTE: The J.R. Michels W-2 form 56-03 was one of five W-2 forms listed on the joint
Dallas Police/FBI inventory of November 26, 1963 (the others are Dolly Shoe 56-04,
Tujague's 56-05/06, and the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory 56-07). None of these W-2 forms con-
tains the initials of the Dallas Police detectives, none are listed in the DPD inventory of
November 22 and 23 (Stovall A 56-08/09, Stovall B 56-10, and Turner Ex. No 156-11/12), and
none were photographed in Dallas on November 22nd and 23rd. But all of the W-2 forms
contain the initials of FBI lab technician Robert Frazier (RF), and all appear on the
joint FBI/DPD inventory of November 26. Between November 23 and November 26,
all of these W-2 forms were fabricated while in FBI custody and were included among
Oswald's possessions when returned to the Dallas Police.
The most obvious sign of fabrication is the fact that all five W-2 forms, allegedly issued
by different companies in 1955 and 1956, were typed on the same typewriter-each W-2
form contains the same identical typewritten characters. To show that all of the W-2 forms
were typed with the same typewriter I made transparencies of the W-2 forms and then
overlaid them as indicated below:
* 1955 Dolly Shoe W-2 over 1955 Tujague W-2 56-13
* 1955 Dolly Shoe W-2 over 1956 Pfisterer W-2 56-14
* 1956 Pfisterer W-2 over 1956 Tujague W-2 56-15
Did Oswald actually work at J.R. Michels?
When I met with Frank DiBenedetto, I told him the Warren Commission said
that Oswald began working at J.R. Michels the day after he quit Tujague's. Frank told
me, "Oswald didn't work there (at J.R. Michels). He couldn't have worked there. We
are on the 3rd floor of this building (Sanlin Building, 442 Canal Street) and they were
one floor below us. We were in the same business. I was very good friends with Nick
(Mazza), the manager of J.R. Michels, and was in his offices nearly every day. We went
to lunch often and were good friends. If Oswald had worked for Nick, I would have
known it."6
The short, thin, Harvey Oswald could have worked at J .R. Michels for a few days
in January, 1956. If Frank visited J.R. Michels' office during this time, he would have no
reason to associate Harvey with the tall, well-built Lee Oswald who worked at Tujague's.
The J.R. Michels company had no employment file for Oswald, no payroll
records, no W-4 form, no copies of quarterly withholding tax filings, no year end W-2
forms, and no one remembered that Oswald worked there, including manager Nick
Mazza. The W-2 and W-4 forms allegedly obtained by the FBI are fabrications, yet they
were given to the Commission and are now located in the National Archives. The one
piece of evidence that may have been original, Oswald's payroll check found by Nick
Mazza, does not agree with the amounts listed on the W-2 form and disappeared while
in FBI custody. In the final analysis there is no proof that Harvey Oswald worked at J.R.
Michels, even though the Bureau created documentation which made it appear as though he did.
NOTE: The W-2 form, and possibly the payroll check found by Nick Mazza, may have
been fabricated in order to create the illusion that Oswald worked a few days at J.R.
Michels after his employment at Tujague's ended on January 14. It was crucial that the
FBI and/or the Warren Commission ''prove" that Oswald's employment at Tujague's
ended in January, because they desperately needed to show that Oswald worked at the
Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in the spring of 1956, before he returned to Fort Worth and
before he joined the Marines in October.
Pfisterer Dental Laboratory
The FBI became aware of Oswald's employment at the Pfisterer Dental Labo-
ratory through their interview with Palmer Edwin McBride on the evening of Novem-
ber 22nd, 1963. McBride told the FBI he met Oswald while working at the dental lab
in late 1957 and had worked with him until May of 1958.56-16/17/18/19
When the FBI realized that Marine Corps records showed that "Lee Harvey
Oswald" was in Japan from September 1957 thru November 1958, they faced a serious
problem that threatened to expose the two Oswald's. 56-20 Quite simply, one "Lee Harvey
Oswald" could not have been in New Orleans and Japan at the same time, and certainly
not for 8 months.
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III. Social Security Doesn't Lie about 1956
Why didn't the Social Security Admin count any of Oswald's employment income prior to the time he joined the U.S. Marine Corps?
According to SSA and IRS records, Oswald's income in 1962 and 1963, after he left the Marine Corps, was as follows:
Employer: William B. Reily & Co. = $422.25 and $191.25
Employer: Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall = $727.80 and $945.69 and $121.67
Employer: Leslie Welding = $636.50
Employer: Texas Book Depository = $261.68
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Grand Total = $3306.85
After Lee HARVEY Oswald was killed, and less than a month after receiving a completed "Application for Survivors Insurance Benefits" form filled out by Marina, the SSA office in Dallas had completed a "Determination of Award" form.
According to the Social Security Administration's “Determination of Award” form, the lifetime earnings of "Lee Harvey Oswald" amounted to $3306.85, exactly the amount of his 1962 and 1963 income. But what about Oswald's earlier income from Dolly Shoe, Tujague's, J.R. Michaels, and Pfisterer Dental Lab? Why isn't it included by the SSA? There are supposedly legitimate W-2 forms showing Social Security information for those employers as well. (You can see ALL the documents referred to here at: http://harveyandlee....ng/Unravels.htm)
On May 15, 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations chief counsel Robert Blakey wrote to the Social Security Administration requesting "access to all files and documents concerning or referring to Lee Harvey Oswald and Marina Oswald." On July 28, Social Security Administration associate commissioner Robert P. Bynum formally responded. In a three-page cover letter to Ms. Jackie Hess, an HSCA employee, Bynum cited 36 different documents that were being forwarded from the Social Security Administration to the HSCA.
Item 23 in the letter from the Social Security Administration to the HSCA states: "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report re employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps."
Why didn't the Social Security Administration include any of Oswald's income from his first four employers in his lifetime earnings report? And why on earth was the Warren Report offered as an explanation?
The pre-Marine income reports of "Lee Harvey Oswald" are fraudulent. Why?
More about this topic, including all the documents referenced above, can be found HERE.
I'm STILL waiting for someone... ANYONE... to explain why the Social Security Administration failed to count ANY of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teenage employment income in his lifetime earnings report. After all, the FBI told us there were perfectly good W-2 forms from Dolly Shoe, Tujague's, J.R. Michaels, and Pfisterer Dental Lab for those LHO formative years. And then they showed us fine copies of the W-2 forms, which certainly would have been forwarded to the Social Security Administration regardless of anyone's opinion of Lee HARVEY Oswald and his teenage angst.
So why didn't the SSA include that income in "Oswald's" final earnings report? And why were "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report re employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps." offered by SSA as an explanation?
Is there a cover-up going all the way back to "Oswald's" teenage years?
Of course there is.
Read the proof here:
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6. In the Bolton Ford incident, which occurred on 1/20/61, while CLASSIC LHO was in Russia, Fred Sewell indicated that the man who identified himself as “Lee Oswald” wanted to buy trucks for the Friends of Democratic Cuba. Sewell wrote both “Oswald” and “Friends of Democratic Cuba” on the sales proposal. Do you really think there were two, completely unrelated “Lee Oswalds” associated with “Friends of Democratic Cuba?
Sewell is a worthless witness. He never came forward at the time and what he said is completely at odds with the actual salesman (Oscar Deslatte) involved AND the completed bid form.
Deslatte stated that only the surname Oswald was used - and that was all that was on the paperwork.
Using Sewell and ignoring Deslatte is yet another example of Armstrong's cherry-picking.
What a laugh riot! Mr. Parker, mustering all the authority he can, declares what John did and didn't do but--by his own admission--Parker has not even read Harvey and Lee and therefore has NO IDEA what Armstrong did or didn't write. Had he bothered to read the book he spends a major portion of his life trying to debunk, he would have found the following short write-up, which hardly ignores Deslatte:
From Harvey and Lee, pp. 325-326:
January 20--Lee Oswald in New Orleans
On January 20, while Harvey Oswald was in Minsk, two men visited the Bolton
Ford dealership at 1483 North Claiborne in New Orleans. They spoke with Assistant
Manager Oscar Deslatte and said they were interested in purchasing 10 Ford Econoline
Trucks. As one of the men discussed the purchase with Deslatte the other man, who
identified himself as Joseph Moore, made a list of the equipment they desired on the
trucks.
Deslatte went to his boss, truck manager Fred Sewell, and told him about the
two men who wanted to purchase trucks and said they represented the "Free Democrats
of Cuba or some such organization." Sewell told Deslatte to give the men a bid of$75 over
their cost for the trucks. Deslatte and Sewell returned to Deslatte's desk and wrote out
a bid form to Joseph Moore. As Deslatte was filling out the bid form, Joseph Moore and
the other man began talking to both Deslatte and Sewell.42
When Moore saw that Deslatte had written his name on the bid form he asked
that the name be changed to "Friends of Democratic Cuba." Moore's friend looked· at
the form and said, "By the way, you'd better put my name down there because I'm the
man handling the money." When Deslatte asked, "What's your name?" the man replied,
"Lee Oswald." 61-04
Sewell described Lee Oswald as, "5-foot-6 or 5-foot-7, thin, about 140 pounds,
and thought he needed a meal and a haircut. He recalled that Oswald was clean but
"wasn't well dressed and he wasn't shabby." Sewell described the second man, who
identified himself as Joseph Moore as, "Kind of heavy-set ..... not overly, but well
built ..... he was curly haired ..... he had a scar over his left eye ..... olive complexioned and
seemed to be educated ..... he had a Cuban accent and looked like a Cuban."
Deslatte gave the original bid form to "Lee Oswald" and kept a copy for his files,
which he gave to the FBI following the assassination.61-05 The purchaser was listed as
the "Friends of Democratic Cuba," 402 St. Charles Street, New Orleans, LA., phone
number JA-50763.43 After talking with Deslate for over an hour the two men took the
original bid form and left.
NOTE: The Friends of Democratic Cuba was incorporated on January 9, 1961 in
Louisiana. The address of 40 2 St. Charles Street was listed as vacant in the 1960, 1961
and 1962 New Orleans City directories.
Oscar Deslatte, like Valentine Ashworth, Mrs. Davis, Marinez Malo, Marita Lorenz, and
many others, was ignored by FBI because his testimony, and the bid form, placed Lee
Oswald in the United States while the Warren Commission said Oswald was in Russia.
Mr. Parker will now drone on endlessly declaring total victory again and again and again....
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TOP 10 REASONS TO BELIEVE IN HARVEY AND LEE10. The IMPOSSIBLE 1953 school scenario: Harvey at Youth House for truancy followed by Beauregard JHS in New Orleans while Lee has good attendance both semesters at PS 44 in NYC.9. John Pic's inability to recognize clear photographs of his own brother.8. The refusal of the Social Security Administration to corroborate the official story of "Oswald's" pre-1962 income, offering instead "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report regarding employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps."7. The Marine Corps records are a gold mine: my favorite chronicles Harvey Oswald's trip to Formosa (Taiwan) while Lee was being treated for VD in Japan.6. The Bolton Ford incident while Harvey was in Russia.5. Marita Lorenz's secret testimony describing Lee Oswald with anti-Castro operatives in Miami and the Everglades while Harvey was in Russia.4. Lee Oswald visiting the Texas Employment Commission, filling out forms and taking tests, while Harvey was in Russia.3. The impossible answer(s) to the simple questions: Could Lee Harvey Oswald drive a car? Did he have a drivers license?2. The well documented appearance of Lee Oswald in the balcony of the Texas Theater soon after the murder of J.D. Tippit with the simultaneous arrest of Harvey Oswald on the main floor of the same theater.1. The behavior of the FBI in the first 48 hours of the "investigation," during which the Bureau confiscated many of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" school records and employment histories. Six months later, the Bureau decided to test for fingerprints on boxes in the so-called "sniper's nest."
As if nobody else in the USA was ever named Lee Oswald, Harvey Oswald, or even Lee Harvey Oswald from 1940 to 1963...
Regards,
--Paul Trejo
Paul,
If you actually read Harvey and Lee, I doubt you'd make a statement like the one above. It amazes me that of the people on this forum who go to great links to say they don't believe Harvey and Lee, not a single one has actually read the book! This is hardly a case of some other completely unrelated fellow or two who just happened to be named “Lee Harvey Oswald.”
Let's take a quick look at the first ten items on my list (numbers 10-6).
10. The Youth House in NY and Beauregard JHS in New Orleans attendance for Lee HARVEY Oswald and the Public School 44 NY attendance by LEE Harvey Oswald is right out of the Warren Commission. If the FBI and the Commissioners managed to identify some unrelated kid with the same name, they made a real whopper.
9. The fact that John Pic refused to ID his “brother” in the Bronx Zoo and FPCC literature images is hardly a matter of an unrelated kid with the same name. These are famous pictures, integral parts of the fable of “Lee Harvey Oswald.”
8. The fact that Social Security Administration refused to acknowledge ANY of Oswald's teen-aged income in REMARKABLE, especially since we have all those (apparently bogus) tax forms describing it. This is hardly a case of mistaken identity; these are U.S. records with names, addresses, Social Security numbers, taxpayer ID numbers, and so on.
7. When the HSCA was confronted with the evidence that Lee HARVEY Oswald departed by ship from Yokosuka, Japan on 9/16/58, eventually arriving and spending time in Taiwan, while LEE Harvey Oswald was being treated at the Naval hospital in Japan, it resulted in nothing less than a letter from Secretary of Defense Harold Brown denying that LHO left Japan. THESE ARE MARINE CORPS RECORDS OF “LEE HARVEY OSWALD!”
6. In the Bolton Ford incident, which occurred on 1/20/61, while CLASSIC LHO was in Russia, Fred Sewell indicated that the man who identified himself as “Lee Oswald” wanted to buy trucks for the Friends of Democratic Cuba. Sewell wrote both “Oswald” and “Friends of Democratic Cuba” on the sales proposal. Do you really think there were two, completely unrelated “Lee Oswalds” associated with “Friends of Democratic Cuba?
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Harvey and Lee
Social Security Didn't Lie about 1956
Why didn't the Social Security Admin count any of Oswald's employment income prior to the time he joined the U.S. Marine Corps?
According to SSA and IRS records, Oswald's income in 1962 and 1963, after he left the Marine Corps, was as follows:
Employer: William B. Reily & Co. = $422.25 and $191.25
Employer: Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall = $727.80 and $945.69 and $121.67
Employer: Leslie Welding = $636.50
Employer: Texas Book Depository = $261.68
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Grand Total = $3306.85
After Lee HARVEY Oswald was killed, and less than a month after receiving a completed "Application for Survivors Insurance Benefits" form filled out by Marina, the SSA office in Dallas had completed a "Determination of Award" form.
According to the Social Security Administration's “Determination of Award” form, the lifetime earnings of "Lee Harvey Oswald" amounted to $3306.85, exactly the amount of his 1962 and 1963 income. But what about Oswald's earlier income from Dolly Shoe, Tujague's, J.R. Michaels, and Pfisterer Dental Lab? Why isn't it included by the SSA? There are supposedly legitimate W-2 forms showing Social Security information for those employers as well. (You can see ALL the documents referred to here at: http://harveyandlee.net/Unraveling/Unravels.htm)
On May 15, 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations chief counsel Robert Blakey wrote to the Social Security Administration requesting "access to all files and documents concerning or referring to Lee Harvey Oswald and Marina Oswald." On July 28, Social Security Administration associate commissioner Robert P. Bynum formally responded. In a three-page cover letter to Ms. Jackie Hess, an HSCA employee, Bynum cited 36 different documents that were being forwarded from the Social Security Administration to the HSCA.
Item 23 in the letter from the Social Security Administration to the HSCA states: "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report re employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps."
Why didn't the Social Security Administration include any of Oswald's income from his first four employers in his lifetime earnings report? And why on earth was the Warren Report offered as an explanation?
The pre-Marine income reports of "Lee Harvey Oswald" are fraudulent. Why?
More about this topic, including all the documents referenced above, can be found HERE.
I'm STILL waiting for someone... ANYONE... to explain why the Social Security Administration failed to count ANY of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" teenage employment income in his lifetime earnings report. After all, the FBI told us there were perfectly good W-2 forms from Dolly Shoe, Tujague's, J.R. Michaels, and Pfisterer Dental Lab for those LHO formative years. And then they showed us fine copies of the W-2 forms, which certainly would have been forwarded to the Social Security Administration regardless of anyone's opinion of Lee HARVEY Oswald and his teenage angst.
So why didn't the SSA include that income in "Oswald's" final earnings report? And why were "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report re employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps." offered by SSA as an explanation?
Is there a cover-up going all the way back to "Oswald's" teenage years?
Of course there is.
Read the proof here:
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Harvey and Lee
The Fraudulent 1956 W-2 Forms
All the U.S. Government's “evidence” about “Lee Harvey Oswald's” employment in 1956 by J.R. Michels, Tujaques, Dolly Shoe and Pfisterer Dental Lab is fabricated, just like the so called 1956 tax return allegedly filled out by “Lee Harvey Oswald” which failed to include his Marine Corps income. Below is John's write-up explaining how and why the J.R. Michels W-2 form was fabricated.
From Harvey and Lee, pp. 138-140:
J. R. Michels W-2 form
According to the Warren Commission, the Dallas Police found the J. R. Michels
W-2 form among Oswald's possessions after the assassination. Each item found by Dallas
Police officers was initialed, dated, listed on their handwritten inventory, typed at Dallas
Police headquarters, and later printed in the Warren Volumes as Stovall Exhibit A & B
(items found at the Paine residence) and Turner Exhibit #1 (items found at 1026 N.
Beckley), and photographed. But the J.R. Michels W-2 form in the National Archives was not
initialed by Dallas Police officers, was not dated, was not listed on their inventory, and was not
photographed on the floor of the police station on November 22 or November 23.
Oswald's possessions were secretly removed from Dallas Police headquarters on
November 23 and taken to FBI headquarters in Washington, DC. The J.R. Michels W-
2 form was created between November 23 and November 25, probably at FBI headquar-
ters where it was initialed by laboratory technician Robert Frazier ("RF"). It was then
included among the items of evidence that were secretly returned to the Dallas Police
on November 26. The fabricated J.R. Michels W-2 form was then photographed by the
Dallas Police, and listed as item 175 on the joint FBI/Dallas Police inventory of Novem-
ber 26, 1963.5 The "items of evidence," including the J.R. Michels W-2 form, were then
returned within a few hours to FBI headquarters in Washington.
The joint Dallas Police/FBI inventory, published in Warren Volume 24, p. 334,
gave the J.R. Michels W-2 form the appearance of "legitimacy." In reality the J.R.
Michels W-2 form, and many other items of evidence, were fabricated in Washington,
DC while Oswald's possessions were in FBI custody from November 23-25, 1963.
NOTE: The J.R. Michels W-2 form 56-03 was one of five W-2 forms listed on the joint
Dallas Police/FBI inventory of November 26, 1963 (the others are Dolly Shoe 56-04,
Tujague's 56-05/06, and the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory 56-07). None of these W-2 forms con-
tains the initials of the Dallas Police detectives, none are listed in the DPD inventory of
November 22 and 23 (Stovall A 56-08/09, Stovall B 56-10, and Turner Ex. No 156-11/12), and
none were photographed in Dallas on November 22nd and 23rd. But all of the W-2 forms
contain the initials of FBI lab technician Robert Frazier (RF), and all appear on the
joint FBI/DPD inventory of November 26. Between November 23 and November 26,
all of these W-2 forms were fabricated while in FBI custody and were included among
Oswald's possessions when returned to the Dallas Police.
The most obvious sign of fabrication is the fact that all five W-2 forms, allegedly issued
by different companies in 1955 and 1956, were typed on the same typewriter-each W-2
form contains the same identical typewritten characters. To show that all of the W-2 forms
were typed with the same typewriter I made transparencies of the W-2 forms and then
overlaid them as indicated below:
* 1955 Dolly Shoe W-2 over 1955 Tujague W-2 56-13
* 1955 Dolly Shoe W-2 over 1956 Pfisterer W-2 56-14
* 1956 Pfisterer W-2 over 1956 Tujague W-2 56-15
Did Oswald actually work at J.R. Michels?
When I met with Frank DiBenedetto, I told him the Warren Commission said
that Oswald began working at J.R. Michels the day after he quit Tujague's. Frank told
me, "Oswald didn't work there (at J.R. Michels). He couldn't have worked there. We
are on the 3rd floor of this building (Sanlin Building, 442 Canal Street) and they were
one floor below us. We were in the same business. I was very good friends with Nick
(Mazza), the manager of J.R. Michels, and was in his offices nearly every day. We went
to lunch often and were good friends. If Oswald had worked for Nick, I would have
known it."6
The short, thin, Harvey Oswald could have worked at J .R. Michels for a few days
in January, 1956. If Frank visited J.R. Michels' office during this time, he would have no
reason to associate Harvey with the tall, well-built Lee Oswald who worked at Tujague's.
The J.R. Michels company had no employment file for Oswald, no payroll
records, no W-4 form, no copies of quarterly withholding tax filings, no year end W-2
forms, and no one remembered that Oswald worked there, including manager Nick
Mazza. The W-2 and W-4 forms allegedly obtained by the FBI are fabrications, yet they
were given to the Commission and are now located in the National Archives. The one
piece of evidence that may have been original, Oswald's payroll check found by Nick
Mazza, does not agree with the amounts listed on the W-2 form and disappeared while
in FBI custody. In the final analysis there is no proof that Harvey Oswald worked at J.R.
Michels, even though the Bureau created documentation which made it appear as though he did.
NOTE: The W-2 form, and possibly the payroll check found by Nick Mazza, may have
been fabricated in order to create the illusion that Oswald worked a few days at J.R.
Michels after his employment at Tujague's ended on January 14. It was crucial that the
FBI and/or the Warren Commission ''prove" that Oswald's employment at Tujague's
ended in January, because they desperately needed to show that Oswald worked at the
Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in the spring of 1956, before he returned to Fort Worth and
before he joined the Marines in October.
Pfisterer Dental Laboratory
The FBI became aware of Oswald's employment at the Pfisterer Dental Labo-
ratory through their interview with Palmer Edwin McBride on the evening of Novem-
ber 22nd, 1963. McBride told the FBI he met Oswald while working at the dental lab
in late 1957 and had worked with him until May of 1958.56-16/17/18/19
When the FBI realized that Marine Corps records showed that "Lee Harvey
Oswald" was in Japan from September 1957 thru November 1958, they faced a serious
problem that threatened to expose the two Oswald's. 56-20 Quite simply, one "Lee Harvey
Oswald" could not have been in New Orleans and Japan at the same time, and certainly
not for 8 months.
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Harvey and Lee
The Fraudulent 1956 Tax Return
From Harvey and Lee, pp. 154-155:
February--Oswald's 1956 income tax return
Following the assassination of President Kennedy, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover
notified the Warren Commission that Oswald's 1955 tax return had been routinely de-
stroyed by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). They allegedly obtained a copy of his
1956 Federal income tax return (Commission Exhibit 90a) from the IRS on December
16, 1963, two days before the Commission requested they obtain the records.
The 1956 return was allegedly filled out by Oswald, signed, and mailed to the
IRS on February 7, 1957. The return was allegedly received by the District Director of
the Internal Revenue office in Fort Worth, Dallas, TX. the following day, February 8.57-03
NOTE: It is difficult to believe the return was mailed from Camp Pendleton, Califor-
nia on February 7, 1957 and received in Dallas only one day later, on February 8,
1957.
The 1956 tax return (short form) given to the Warren Commission listed three
employers (J.R. Michels, Gerard F. Tujague, Pfisterer Dental Lab), their addresses,
gross wages, and withholding taxes. The information listed on this return is identical
with the income listed on the fabricated W-2 forms for J.R. Michels, Gerard F. Tujague,
Inc., and the Pfisterer Dental Lab. At first glance there appears to be no reason to
question either the single page tax return or the W-2 forms. On closer inspection, however,
there are enough errors and omissions to suggest that the 1956 return, like the W-2 forms, was
fabricated.
One error was the address listed for the J.R. Michels Company. On the 1956
return it was listed as 805 American Bank Bldg., but their office was located at on the 2nd
floor of 442 Canal Street in the Sanlin Building.
NOTE: The address on Oswald's 1956 income tax return and address on the J. R.
Michels W-2 form was the same address listed on cancelled payroll check which Nick
Mazza gave to the FBI on November 25, 1963; it was not the companies business
address at 442 Canal Street.
The most significant error, however, was that the return failed to include Oswald's
Marines Corps earnings of $111.00 on his 1956 tax return.6 It is difficult to believe that
Oswald, who had been in the Marines for the past 4 1/2 months and was in the Marines
when he allegedly signed and mailed the return, forgot to include this income. His Ma-
$111.00, was more than he allegedly earned from Gerard F. Tujague, Inc.
($80.46) or J.R. Michels ($80) in 1956.
Oswald's Marine Corps income may not have been included on the fabricated
1956 return for one simple reason. When the return was given to the Warren Commis-
sion, in December 1963, Oswald's income from the Marines was unknown. In fact,
Oswald's Marine Corps earnings remained unknown for the next 9 months. In Sep-
tember, 1964 the Department of the Navy finally provided certified payroll records to
the Commission. 57-04
According to information on the 1956 tax return, Oswald should have received
a refund check in the amount of $64.70. Yet the FBI apparently made no attempt to
obtain a copy of the cancelled check, nor is there any indication that either Oswald or
Marguerite received or cashed such a check.
NOTE: The alleged refund check of $64.70 represented most of the federal income tax
that was allegedly withheld by J.R. Michels, Tujague's. and Pfisterer's. But if Oswald
never worked at Pfisterer's in 1956, then the IRS could not have issued a refund check
which consisted mostly of withholding taxes from Pfisterer's. In all probability, Oswald
never received a refund chick in the amount of $64.70, because one was never issued.
Once again, we see evidence that the FBI failed to conduct an honest investigation into
Oswald's background and we understand why. The purpose of the fabricated W-2 form,
and the fabricated 1956 tax return (one page short form), was simply to create the
illusion that Oswald worked at the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in 1956, instead of
1957-58 as reported by Palmer McBride.
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WOW! Nor a WORD from ...
Thomas Graves
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C'mon, Tommy,
I'm just asking for the truth...
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Aw fer Crissakes, Tommy....
Have you read HARVEY & LEE or not?
This ins't Rocket Science. Just tell us the truth, please....
Jim
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Tommy? ....
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TOP 10 REASONS TO BELIEVE IN HARVEY AND LEE10. The IMPOSSIBLE 1953 school scenario: Harvey at Youth House for truancy followed by Beauregard JHS in New Orleans while Lee has good attendance both semesters at PS 44 in NYC.9. John Pic's inability to recognize clear photographs of his own brother.8. The refusal of the Social Security Administration to corroborate the official story of "Oswald's" pre-1962 income, offering instead "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report regarding employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps."7. The Marine Corps records are a gold mine: my favorite chronicles Harvey Oswald's trip to Formosa (Taiwan) while Lee was being treated for VD in Japan.6. The Bolton Ford incident while Harvey was in Russia.5. Marita Lorenz's secret testimony describing Lee Oswald with anti-Castro operatives in Miami and the Everglades while Harvey was in Russia.4. Lee Oswald visiting the Texas Employment Commission, filling out forms and taking tests, while Harvey was in Russia.3. The impossible answer(s) to the simple questions: Could Lee Harvey Oswald drive a car? Did he have a drivers license?2. The well documented appearance of Lee Oswald in the balcony of the Texas Theater soon after the murder of J.D. Tippit with the simultaneous arrest of Harvey Oswald on the main floor of the same theater.1. The behavior of the FBI in the first 48 hours of the "investigation," during which the Bureau confiscated many of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" school records and employment histories. Six months later, the Bureau decided to test for fingerprints on boxes in the so-called "sniper's nest."
Jim,
But the reason gullible True Believers like you swallow the H & L Dogma "hook, line, and sinker" is twofold: 1 ) It's a perfect example of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, and 2 ) as such it facilitates and encourages your continuing application of The Clustering Illusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion
--Tommy
Tommy..
Please tell the truth. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ HARVEY & LEE?
Jim
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Wake up, Parker and you Minions!
Big Parts of Harvey and Lee will be offered to you in a few hours from RIGHT NOW!
Please explain why "Lee Harvey Oswald's" 1956 Social Security Report included NO INCOME from his pre-Marine years, you know, from 1956 or so.
W-2 forms from "1956" should have included J.R. Michels, Dolly Shoe, Pfisterer Dental Lab, and so on.
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The Very First Post in this thread is HERE, by Robin Ramsey:
This is a major publishing event in the JFK assassination world. Parts of Armstrong's work has been on the Net and he's spoken at some of the big JFK conferences. His work-in-progress became spoken of as 'the John Armstrong research'; and finally we have the book, a self-published 1000 pages; plus a CD-Rom containing documents he cites. (I haven't even looked at the CD-Rom yet.) Since one reading of this (and some sections I merely skimmed), is all I have managed so far, and that is barely scratching the surface of 1000 pages, this is aprovisional report; first reactions.This is a staggering piece of research, twelve years of it, and a lot of money spent in the process. Armstrong has interviewed people who haven't been interviewed since the Warren Commission - and many who have never been interviewed before. He has read official files no non-official had seen before him. Lots of new ground is broken here in all kinds of little subsections of the story. But it is far too long. If the text was copy-edited, he or she deserves a slap: the text is full of stupid little errors. The typesetting is eccentric: the text is covered in italicisation, bold and underlining. A potentially great 400 or 500 page book is buried in this behemoth. Or perhaps it shouldn't be thought of as a book, but more as research assembled in book form.Armstrong does three things. First, he is offering a theory of the assassination. His minute - microscopic - analysis of key episodes in the case is punctuated by chunks of the ClA's coven activities in the 1950s and 60s: Armstrong wants us tosee what the Agency is known to have been doing while the Oswald story unfolded. But his thesis that the CIA killed JFK and framed Oswald fails for the same reason that previous versions of this have failed: no matter how plausible the idea, no matter how much detail we are given of other, analogous things the CIA was doing in the post-war years, Armstrong cannot show who was doing the shooting; and he cannot identify the CIA conspirators. The only plausible conspirators he offers are Jack Ruby and Lee, one of the two 'Oswalds' in the story. Both have connections to the ClA-funded anti-Castro operations; but that is all.The second thing Armstrong does is show in great detail how the FBI 'edited' the evidence about the shooting. The FBI had all the evidence collected by the Dallas police sent to Washington and a lot of it didn't return. Armstrong thinks the editing was done to conceal evidence of the two 'Oswalds'; and while this looks very plausible, it is not conclusively demonstrated.Thirdly, and centrally, Armstrong takes on the 'two Oswalds' question, which has been around since 1967. It arose first because there seemed to be someone pretending to be Oswald, apparently framing the other, genuine 'Oswald'. ProfessorRichard Popkin detailed this first in his The Second Oswald (London: Andre Deutscn/ Sphere, 1967). Then 'Oswalds' with different heights and slightly different faces were noticed. A decade after Popkin, Michael Eddowes published The OswaldFile (New York: Clarkson Potter, 1977), which concluded that one 'Oswald', the American Marine 'Oswald', went to the Soviet Union but another 'Oswald' came back in his place, a ringer being run by the Soviets, who shot the President. In Alias Oswald (Manchester, Maine; GKG partners, 1985) Robert Cutler and W. R. Morris argued that the second 'Oswald', was not a Soviet spy but a US spy. In their analysis the switch from one 'Oswald' to the other took place in 1958 while Oswald was serving in the Marine Corps in Japan.By dint of minute examination of the paper record and a lot of phone-bashing and travelling, Armstrong validates the Cutler-Morris thesis - there was a switch - and has tried to trace the life of the 'hidden' Oswald. He appears to have established the existence of an intelligence operation which began with two boys, of different heights, but who looked similar and who lived parallel lives. One, Harvey, was Russian-speaking, probably a refugee from Eastern Europe; the other, Lee, was an American.It begins in the early WOs, some of the cooler years of the Cold War. US intelligence had no reliable information on the Soviet Union. (This was before U-2 over-flights and satellites.) Soviet nuclear arms, even the Soviet economy, were a mystery. All the agents sent in by CIA and MI6 had been turned or captured. How could they get agents in? One way was to send them in as defectors. There seems to have been a CIA programme of defectors - Armstrong discusses some of the others - in which, he hypothesises, there was an attempt at a better class of defection. Armstrong believes the CIA ran two real identities in parallel, merged them - Lee and Harvey became Lee Harvey - and switched them just before the apparent defection of the American 'Oswald', Lee. Thus the CIA would insert into the Soviet Union a defector, Harvey, with two outstanding characteristics: one, unknown to the Soviet authorities, he could speak Russian; two, if Soviet intelligence checked his biography, they would find the American 'Lee Oswald', not a 'legend' but a real life. If this seems elaborate, Armstrong reminds the reader of the Soviet use of 'illegals', and quotes the example of Molody, 'Gordon Lonsdale', who operated in the UK.This hypothesised CIA plan entailed both boys being in the Marines at the same time. Armstrong shows reports and presents recollections of 'Oswald' in two places at the same time through secondary school and in the Marines. The two 'Oswalds' explains the mass of contradictory material about Oswald in the Marines: one who couldn't shoot; one who could: one who was an apparent Marxist and read Russian, the other who didn't: one who was outgoing and a brawler; the other a bookworm. The plan also meant two 'mothers of Oswald', two 'Marguerite Oswalds'. Here the programme didn't extend to two women who looked similar: one was tall and elegant and the other short and plain. If Armstrong is correct, and the evidence looks convincing on one reading, a woman spent nearly ten years, pretending to be 'Marguerite Oswald', following the real Marguerite round the country, taking a series' of xxxx-jobs to do so.It should be noted that there is no evidence, either paper record or firsthand, that this scheme took place. Armstrong infers it from the evidence of the two 'Oswalds'. If this is true, Armstrong has uncovered the most elaborate intelligence operation (and done the greatest piece of espionage detective work) I have ever read about.Passage from Lobster Magazine (Summer, 2004)Biography: http://educationforu...?showtopic=1385Website: http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/ -
.... in MEMORY of RICHARD SCHWEIKER...
In 1976, during the Schweiker-Hart assassination investigation, a 5th "back-yard photograph" was found and identified as 133-C. MAR,63-04 Mrs. Geneva Ruth Dees, the widow of former Dallas Police Officer Roscoe Anthony White, found the photo among her husband's possessions. According to Mrs. Dees this print was acquired by her deceased husband during the course of his employment with the Dallas Police Department. The photograph was similar to the other backyard photographs except that it was much clearer, which indicated that it may have been a first generation photo. [H&L, p. 492]Harvey Oswald's involvement with US intelligence agencies linked him directly to the most sensitive operations ever conducted by the CIA--the assassination of a US President. Oswald's involvement and knowledge had to remain secret, and he could never be allowed to go to trial. Senator Richard Schweiker, who originally chaired the HSCA until forced out by CIA interests, was correct when he said, "Oswald had the fingerprints of intelligence all over him.” [H&L, p. 944] -
TOP 10 REASONS TO BELIEVE IN HARVEY AND LEE10. The IMPOSSIBLE 1953 school scenario: Harvey at Youth House for truancy followed by Beauregard JHS in New Orleans while Lee has good attendance both semesters at PS 44 in NYC.9. John Pic's inability to recognize clear photographs of his own brother.8. The refusal of the Social Security Administration to corroborate the official story of "Oswald's" pre-1962 income, offering instead "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report regarding employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps."7. The Marine Corps records are a gold mine: my favorite chronicles Harvey Oswald's trip to Formosa (Taiwan) while Lee was being treated for VD in Japan.6. The Bolton Ford incident while Harvey was in Russia.5. Marita Lorenz's secret testimony describing Lee Oswald with anti-Castro operatives in Miami and the Everglades while Harvey was in Russia.4. Lee Oswald visiting the Texas Employment Commission, filling out forms and taking tests, while Harvey was in Russia.3. The impossible answer(s) to the simple questions: Could Lee Harvey Oswald drive a car? Did he have a drivers license?2. The well documented appearance of Lee Oswald in the balcony of the Texas Theater soon after the murder of J.D. Tippit with the simultaneous arrest of Harvey Oswald on the main floor of the same theater.1. The behavior of the FBI in the first 48 hours of the "investigation," during which the Bureau confiscated many of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" school records and employment histories. Six months later, the Bureau decided to test for fingerprints on boxes in the so-called "sniper's nest."
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For the uninitiated and newbie, if the above Stripling information is accurate , then the Harvey and Lee hypothesis is solid and correct. ,gaal
For those who have at least two firing brain cells... you need to be on some some heavy duty mind-altering drugs for it to be "correct".
Really, Greg? You write about "two firing brain cells" ... "mind-altering drugs".... "to be 'correct''? Are you going to edit the above quote so those offending words are gone?
Allow me, then, to re-post below what you just typed above before you wisely edit it out:
================ GREG PARKER QUOTE ON ================="For those who have at least two firing brain cells... you need to be on some some heavy duty mind-altering drugs for it to be "correct".================ GREG PARKER QUOTE OFF ================You simply have to work MUCH HARDER, Greg! These one-line attacks made against John's obvious and genuine scholarship are going to look bad forever.You are, however, inspiring me to quote MUCH more from Harvey and Lee. So far, the author has given me carte blanche. We all expect MUCH better from you!!! -
Richard Garrett
There was a poignant reunion with a grammar school acquaintance, Richard Garrett. “I remember I had to look down to him, and it seemed strange because he had been the tallest, the dominant member of our group in grammar school. He looked like he was just lost. He was very different from the way I remembered him. He seemed to have no personality at all. He couldn't express himself well. He just hadn't turned into somebody. He hadn't turned into anybody. I've read where a lot of people say he was a loner. Well, he wasn't in the sixth grade but he sure was in high school.”
--LIFE Magazine, February 21, 1964, p. 72
Richard Garrett met American-born LEE Oswald in the sixth grade, and Russian-speaking HARVEY Oswald in high school. Like many people who met both Oswalds, Garrett went to an early grave. On August 10, 1969, while waiting at a stoplight with his fiancee at the intersection of Oakland and East Lancaster in Fort Worth, he was shot five times. (Fort Worth Star-Telegram, 1/10/70)
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STRIPLING SCHOOL
While New Orleans-born LEE Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans for 89 days during the fall term of 1954, Russian-speaking HARVEY Oswald went to Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth. According to the Warren Report, “Oswald” never attended Stripling. I should have included Stripling School in my list of Top 10 reasons to believe in Harvey and Lee, but didn't. Hopefully, this post will rectify that omission.
Included at the end of the write-up are links to YouTube interviews with Stripling's 1954 vice-principal Frank Kudlaty and Harvey's Stripling classmate Fran Schubert. Posted with permission of John Armstrong.
From Harvey and Lee, pp. 94–103:
September-November, 1954: Harvey Oswald in Fort Worth
When Myra DaRouse returned to Beauregard in the fall of 1954 she was not
assigned a homeroom, and never again saw her friend and former homeroom student,
Harvey Oswald. She didn't know that Harvey and the older, dumpy, heavy-set "Mar-
guerite Oswald" imposter already left New Orleans and moved to Fort Worth. They
moved into a small apartment at 2220 Thomas Place, and Harvey began attending 9th
grade classes at W.C. Stripling Junior High--once again without transcripts from his previ-
ous school (Beauregard). The Warren Commission, either unaware or wanting to avoid
Stripling, reported that "Lee Harvey Oswald" attended the 9th grade at Beauregard Jun-
ior High in New Orleans in the fall of 1954.
Warren Report, p. 679
"He entered the ninth grade (Beauregard Junior High in New Orleans) in Sep-
tember and again received mediocre but acceptable marks."
The Warren Commission reported that Oswald attended the 7th grade and the
first half of the 8th grade in New York City. They reported that he completed the last
half of the 8th grade and all of the 9th grade at Beauregard Junior High in New Orleans.
But the Commission never attempted to resolve the following portion of Robert Oswald's testimony,
which I read for the first time in 1993:
Mr. Jenner: And, at that time, I take it your brother Lee was attending Arling-
ton Heights High School? That would be 1952?
Mr. Oswald: Just a minute please. In 1952 Lee was 13 years old. He would be
attending W.C. Stripling Junior High School then.
Mr. Jenner: I see. For the school year 1951-52?
Mr. Oswald: Yes, sir. Junior high school there was from the seventh to the ninth
grades. And as soon as he finished the sixth year at Ridglea Elementary School,
he started attending W.C. Stripling Junior High school.
At this point Jenner realized there was a problem and intimated that Robert's answer was
wrong by questioning his answer. (Oswald was supposed to be attending junior high school
in New York in the fall of 1952-not in Fort Worth).
Mr. Jenner: As soon as he finished the sixth year at Ridglea Elementary School,
he entered W.C. Stripling High School as a seventh grader?
Mr. Oswald: Yes, sir-junior high school.
Mr. Jenner: Now, the condition that you described ...... 31 54-16
Robert Oswald's testimony conflicted with the Beauregard junior high school
records published by the Warren Commission. Albert Jenner's reluctance to resolve the
discrepancy, and his intentional changing of the subject matter to avoid any further dis-
cussion about Stripling, indicates that he was aware of the conflict. Neither Jenner nor
any member of the Commission attempted to question Robert further about his state-
ment, inquire as to his knowledge that Oswald attended Stripling, or obtain Stripling
school records.
Robert Oswald's knowledge of Stripling
In 1959, after Lee Harvey Oswald "defected" to Russia, Robert Oswald was
interviewed by reporters in Fort Worth. He innocently told Fort Worth Star Telegram
reporter Jack Douglas (and other Fort Worth reporters) that his brother went to Strip-
ling Junior High School and thought he attended Arlington Heights High School.32This
was 5 years before Robert told the same story to the Warren Commission.
In June 1961, the Secret Service received an FBI report and a newspaper article
which said that Oswald had attended Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth. 54-17
In June 1962, when Harvey Oswald was returning to the United States from
Russia, an article appeared in the Fort Worth Star Telegram. Once again Robert Oswald
told reporters that his brother attended Stripling Junior High School and Arlington
Heights High School."33
Robert Oswald stated publicly, on three separate occasions over a 5-year period,
that his brother attended Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth. The Commission could
only ignored Robert Oswald's references to Stripling. They reported that after complet-
ing the 6th grade in 1952, Lee Harvey Oswald attended junior high in New York and
New Orleans, and did not return to Fort Worth until the summer of 1956.
Could Robert have been mistaken?
Robert Oswald joined the Marines in July 1952 and was not living in Fort Worth
during the fall when his brother was supposed to attend junior high. I considered the pos-
sibility that Robert assumed that his brother entered Stripling after finishing elementary
school, because this was the same school he (Robert) attended in the fall of 1948. But
if Lee Oswald and his mother had remained in Fort Worth in the fall of 1952, Lee would
have transferred to nearby Monnig Junior High, not Stripling.
On August 21, 1948, prior to the beginning of school, Marguerite sold her house
and drove with Lee in her 1948 Dodge to New York City. Two months later Robert
Oswald visited his mother and brother in New York, shortly after Lee entered the 7th
grade.34 Robert again visited Lee and Marguerite in New York in the summer of 1953,
when Lee was between the 7th and 8th grades at PS #44.35 Robert's visits to New York
make it nearly impossible to believe that he could have assumed his younger brother
attended Stripling in the 7th grade.
After Robert was discharged from the Marines, in July 1955, he briefly resided
with Lee and Marguerite at their apartment on Exchange Place in New Orleans. Lee had
recently graduated from the 9th grade at Beauregard Junior High and, according to
Robert, was working for an export firm. If anyone knew where Lee Harvey Oswald at-
tended all of his junior high school years, it was Robert Oswald. So why would Robert tell
reporters in 1959 and 1962, and tell the Warren Commission in 1964, that his "brother" had
attended Stripling? Because Robert was telling the Commission about his limited knowledge of
Harvey Oswald's background.
Helping to merge the identities of Harvey and Lee
Robert's statements relating to his brother's attendance at Stripling, made to
reporters in 1959 and 1962 and the Warren Commission in 1964, were intended to show
that the Lee Harvey Oswald who "defected" to Russia in 1959 was Robert's brother. But
the "defector" was not Robert's brother and, from all indications, Robert knew it.
John Pic said that Robert drove his car to New Orleans during the summer of
1956 in order to pick up Lee Harvey Oswald and Marguerite and then drove them to
Fort Worth. In Fort Worth Oswald's neighbors at 4936 Collinwood recalled that Rob-
ert lived with Marguerite and Lee Harvey Oswald in the apartment for about four
months.36 The apartment was close to both Stripling (a few blocks south) and Arling-
ton Heights High School (several blocks south). As we shall see, the boy who lived with
the short, dumpy, heavy-set "Marguerite Oswald" imposter and Robert Oswald at the
Collinwood apartment was Harvey.
Five years earlier Robert Oswald attended Stripling Junior High as a 9th grade
student (1948-49), and then attended Arlington Heights High School as a sophomore
(1949-50) and a junior (1951-52). Harvey also attended Stripling as a 9th grade student
( 1954 ), and in the fall of 1956 enrolled at Arlington Heights as a sophomore. Both boys
had attended the 9th and 1Oth grades at the same schools and it is likely they discussed
teachers and friends from both Stripling and "Heights," during the four months they
lived together at 4936 Collinwood.
Understanding Robert Oswald's testimony
Following the assassination of President Kennedy Robert Oswald's public state-
ments in 1959 and 1962, concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's attendance at Stripling, be-
came a potentially serious problem. In the author's opinion, Robert tried to explain his
earlier statements to the press by telling the Commission that his brother attended Strip-
ling before he left Fort Worth and moved to New York.
Robert's statement, "As soon as he finished the sixth year at Ridglea Elemen-
tary School, he started attending W.C. Stripling Junior High school," caught the atten-
tion Commission Attorney Albert Jenner, who recognized the potential conflict and had
no intention of allowing Robert to elaborate.
Robert's statement about Stripling went unchallenged for years, as did his con-
tinual public pronouncements that "Lee Harvey Oswald" lived in a fantasy world and
assassinated the President. From interviews with reporters, FBI agents, Warren Com-
mission testimony, his book Lee, and numerous television interviews, Robert Oswald's
position is very clear--he supports the Warren Commission's conclusion that "Lee Harvey
Oswald" killed President Kennedy, while knowing full well that man was not his brother.
Harvey Oswald at Stripling in the fall of 1954
The Warren Commission ignored Robert Oswald's testimony about Stripling
and concluded that "Lee Harvey Oswald" left Fort Worth in August of 1952, and moved
to New York with his mother where he attended the 7th grade (1952-53) and the first
half of the 8th grade (fall semester, 1953). He then moved to New Orleans where he at-
tended the last half of the 8th grade (spring semester, 1954), all of the 9th grade (1954-
55 school year), and graduated from Beauregard in June 1955. He briefly attended
Warren Easton High School in the fall of 1955 (New Orleans), dropped out, worked in
New Orleans for the next 8 months, and then moved to Fort Worth.
According to Warren Commission version of his background, it would have been impos-
sible for "Lee Harvey Oswald" to have attended even a single day of school at Stripling Junior
High in Fort Worth, from September 1952 thru June 1956.
After reading Robert Oswald's testimony, I wrote a letter to the principal of W.C.
Stripling, Mr. Ricardo Galindo, and asked if there were any records of Oswald's atten-
dance at Stripling.37 Mr. Galindo telephoned and said that while he did not have pos-
session of such records, it was "common knowledge" that Oswald attended Stripling.
He said all school records had been turned over to the Fort Worth Independent School
District many years ago, and suggested that I contact them to see if they had any records.
In late 1993 I made an appointment with Mr. Ralph Waller of the FWISD, 100
North University, in Fort Worth. I met Mr. Waller and his friend, Billy J. Sills, a retired
resident of Fort Worth who was devoting his time to setting up an historical archive for
the District. When I asked if the District had any school records for "Lee Harvey
Oswald," Mr. Waller instructed a co-worker to review their microfilm and provide me
with copies of any records. When I asked if there was a list of teachers who taught at
Stripling in 1954 Mr. Waller said they had no such list, but Billy Sills said he would check
his records and then left.
Mr. Waller explained that students who graduated from Ridglea West Elemen-
tary School prior to the 1951-1952 school year would have gone to Stripling Junior High.
Students who graduated from Ridglea West Elementary School during or after the 1951-
52 school year would have attended Monnig Junior High School, which opened in the
fall of 1952. Oswald graduated from Ridglea West in the spring of 1952, and a copy of
his school transcripts should have been sent to Monnig Junior High--not Stripling.
NOTE: Only Marguerite Oswald's notification that the family was moving to New York
would have prevented Ridglea West Elementary from automatically forwarding a copy
of Oswald's school transcripts to Monnig. Such a request was not made because the New
York school records did not contain any school transcripts from Ridglea West Elemen-
tary.
After researching their microfilm records, Mr. Waller's co-workers did not find
any of Oswald's school transcripts, which meant the original records and carbon copies
disappeared prior to 1964 (probably confiscated by the FBI in 1963 ). The only records
they located were enrollment cards from 1951 and 1952 for Ridglea West Elementary
School.
NOTE: Prior to the mid-1960's, each Fort Worth school archived school records on site.
In the mid-1960's records from all Fort Worth schools were transferred to a central
warehouse at the Fort Worth Independent School District and microfilmed.
As I was leaving Mr. Waller's office, Billy Sills returned and gave me a handwrit-
ten list of 41 teachers who had taught at Stripling Junior High during the 1951-1952
school year, along with their most recent address and telephone number.54-18
Stripling faculty members
After many hours of long distance telephone calls, I managed to contact a sur-
prising number of former Stripling teachers, although many were deceased. One man
I spoke with was Mark Summers, a former gym teacher, who began his 1 0-year tenure
at Stripling in September 1950, one year after Robert Oswald graduated from the school
( 1949). Mr. Summers said that "Lee Harvey Oswald" was a student in his gym class for
a short time, but remembered little about him.
NOTE: Mr. Summers could not have mistakenly remembered Robert Oswald in his class,
because Robert graduated from Stripling the year before he began teaching.
As I continued to locate and talk with former Stripling teachers, many suggested
that I call "Frank Kudlaty," the former assistant principal at Stripling. I telephoned Mr.
Kudlaty, introduced myself as a JFK researcher, and asked if he knew whether or not
"Lee Harvey Oswald" had attended Stripling. Without hesitation Frank said, "Yes, he
attended Stripling." Somewhat surprised I asked, "How do you know that." Frank re-
plied, "Because I gave his Stripling records to the FBI."
I was momentarily stunned by Frank's answer, and asked him to tell me what
he remembered in detail. He explained, "Early on the morning following the assassi-
nation, Saturday morning, I was telephoned by my boss, Mr. (Weldon) Lucas (Princi-
pal of Stripling), and told to go to school and meet two FBI agents. I lived close to the
school at that time and arrived at the school before they (FBI Agents) got there. I went
into the school and located Oswald's records. In fact I found both Lee Harvey and Rob-
ert Oswald's records for Stripling. I opened Lee Harvey Oswald's folder and briefly
looked over his records and noted that he had attended less than a full semester at Strip-
ling. He had been there long enough to receive grades for a 6-week period, but not long
enough to receive semester grades. I think he was in the 9th grade. I put the records
back into the folder and waited for the FBI agents. When they arrived, they showed me
their badges for identification, and asked for the records. I told them that I had located
both Lee Harvey and Robert Oswald's school records and asked if they wanted both.
They told me they only wanted 'Lee Harvey Oswald's' records. After I handed the
records to them they thanked me and left. I locked up the school and went home."38
Frank went on to explain that Stripling did not have a copy machine and nei-
ther of the agents gave him a receipt for the records. He said that no one, except my-
self, had ever asked him about Oswald's records at Stripling Junior High.
After speaking with Frank, I made arrangements to visit him and his wife,
Marlene, at their home in Waco, Texas. Frank graduated from Texas Christian Univer-
sity (TCU), began teaching at Stripling in the fall of 1951, and by 1963, was the assis-
tant principal. After leaving Stripling, Frank became the Superintendent of Schools in
Waco, Texas, a position he held until his retirement in 1987. In 1979 the US State De-
partment asked the American Association of School Administrators to select a 25-mem-
ber team of educators to travel to the Peoples Republic of China and advise the Chi-
nese government on education. Frank was one of the educators chosen to attend, and
traveled to China in November 1979.
Frank explained, during a videotaped interview, that before the FBI agents
arrived at Stripling on Saturday morning (November 23), he briefly reviewed Oswald's
school file. He explained that when a student enrolled in a new school, in this case at
Stripling, the previous school routinely sent copies of his school transcripts. Occasion-
ally, if the records were not sent, the new school would write and request copies of the
school records from the previous school. Frank said that when he examined Oswald's
file he saw neither copies of school transcripts from a previous school nor a letter from
Stripling requesting such records. Frank said this was very unusual, as Oswald must have
attended school prior to his attendance at Stripling, yet there were no records.
Frank said the Stripling records showed that Oswald received grades for one 6-
week grade period, had attended a second grade period, but had not completed the fall
semester.
NOTE: Harvey Oswald's failure to complete a full semester of school at PS # 117 or at
PS #44 in New York continued at Stripling. His inability to complete a full semester was
probably due to his inability to provide transcripts from previous schools. This was
probably the reason he dropped out of Stripling and returned to New Orleans with the
short, dumpy, heavy-set "Marguerite Oswald" imposter in late 1954.
Frank explained that when students graduated or were transferred from Strip-
ling, copies of their Stripling transcripts were sent to the new school along with a cover
letter. Once again, Frank saw no indication that copies of Oswald's transcripts from
Stripling had been forwarded to any school. The only school records in Oswald's file
were those created by his attendance at Stripling, which Frank said was very unusual.
NOTE: Copies of Oswald's school transcripts from the 8th grade at Beauregard should
have been in Oswald's file at Stripling.
Copies of Oswald's school transcripts from the fall semester of 1954 (9th grade) at Strip-
ling should have been forwarded to Warren Easton High School in New Orleans where
Harvey Oswald entered the 10th grade in the fall of 1955.
After talking with Frank, I realized that certain FBI official(s) had to have known
about Lee Harvey Oswald's Stripling Junior High attendance prior to the assassination,
which probably meant they also knew about the existence of two Oswalds. Otherwise,
why were two agents sent to Stripling to confiscate junior high school records less than
20 hours after the assassination? And why would the FBI be interested in Oswald's
records from junior high school? ..... Because those records proved that Harvey Oswald attended
Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth at the same time that Lee Oswald attended Beauregard
Junior High in New Orleans. If both of these school records were made public, they would
expose the two Oswalds and the agency responsible for merging the identity of the ac-
cused Presidential assassin with New Orleans-born Lee Harvey Oswald. Needless to say,
the Stripling records disappeared.
NOTE: In the mid-1990 s I wrote to the Assassination Records Review Board and pro-
vided them with Frank Kudlaty s name, address, a synopsis of his statements to me, and
a copy of the videotaped interview. Franks name appears on several internal ARRB
memos, but no one contacted him. The ARRB s avoidance of personal contact with Frank
Kudlaty followed the FBI/WC/HSCAs practice of ignoring troublesome witnesses.
Monnig Junior High
Frank Kudlaty knew the principal of Monnig Junior High, Mr. Ree Bostick, for
many years and talked with him after the assassination. Mr. Bostick told Frank that FBI
agents also visited his school and asked for Lee Harvey Oswald's school records.39 Mr.
Bostick did know which records, if any, were give to the agents. If there were records,
they were probably copies of Oswald's records from Ridglea West Elementary that were
forwarded to Monnig. I spent several weeks trying to locate Mr. Bostick, and finally
learned that he died years ago. I did locate and visit his widow at a rest home in Fort
Worth, but she had no knowledge of any discussions between her husband and the FBI.
NOTE: Only notification by Marguerite Oswald of their move to New York in the fall
of 1952 would have prevented Ridglea West from routinely forwarding carbon copies of
Oswald's transcripts to Monnig.
The Stripling records disappear
I knew that Oswald's original New York school records and court file disap-
peared while in FBI custody and was almost certain the Stripling records suffered a
similar fate. Nevertheless, I searched for Stripling records at the National Archives, in
the FBI microfilm, in the Warren Volumes, and at the Fort Worth Independent School
District, but without success. I then filed a Freedom of Information request with the
FBI and asked for any and all Stripling records, FBI reports relating to Stripling, and FBI
reports relating to Frank Kudlaty. On May 14, 1994, I received a reply from the FBI
which stated "a search of the indices to our central records system files at FBI Head-
quarters revealed no record responsive to your request." 54-19
Former Stripling Junior High students
In November 1994, I attended the Assassination Symposium on Kennedy (ASK
Convention) at the Adolphus Hotel in Dallas. During breakfast with fellow researcher
Robert Groden, I learned that he was scheduled to be interviewed by Kevin McCarthy
on KLIF radio later in the day. I explained my interest in Oswald's attendance at Strip-
ling to Robert and asked for a favor. I wanted Robert, during his radio interview on
KLIF, to ask if anyone in the listening audience had attended Stripling Junior High with
Oswald.
After finishing the radio interview, Robert called me and said that two people
had responded to his request by calling the station. The first caller was a man named
"Don," who said he had lived close to Oswald when he attended Stripling, but left no
phone number. The second person was Franzetta (Schubert) Tubbs, who left her name
and phone number.
I immediately contacted Franzetta and asked her what she remembered about
Oswald. Fran explained that she entered Stripling in 1953 as a 7th grade student, but
was somewhat overwhelmed by the large school and hardly spoke to anyone.
The next year, in the 8th grade, she felt more comfortable with her surround-
ings and made many new friends. Fran lived at 4104 Valentine Street, which was sev-
eral blocks from Stripling, and was not close enough for her to walk home during lunch.
She reluctantly took a sack lunch to school and, when the weather was nice, sat on the
west side of the school to eat her lunch. Fran told me, "I used to watch with envy as
some of the kids got to walk home for lunch, while I had to stay at school."
NOTE: The Stripling school grounds cover an entire city block in an older middle-class
residential area a few miles southwest of downtown Fort Worth. The school building is
located on the northern portion of the block, with the front of the school facing east on
Clover Lane, and the rear of the school facing west on Thomas Place. The southern por-
tion of the school property contains basketball courts, baseball, football, and track fields,
and is surrounded by a chain link fence.
At noon Fran used to watch one of the students leave the building, walk through
the basketball courts, cross the street (Thomas Place), and enter a white house with a
large front porch. The student, clearly remembered by Fran, was "Lee Harvey Oswald."
Fran remembered that Oswald was a skinny kid who wore a dark brown leather jacket,
blue jeans, and was very quiet. She also remembered Oswald's "mother," who she said
was heavy-set and always wore a white nurse's uniform. Fran was in the 8th grade and
had no classes with Oswald, who was in the 9th grade, but saw him between classes and
in the hallways. She said, "He wasn't there too long and the one thing I remember
clearly was him walking home for lunch .... .it made me mad that he could go home for
lunch and I couldn't. I only saw him for a short time at the beginning of.my 8th grade
year at Stripling, which would be the 1954-55 school year. "40
2220 Thomas Place
In 1996 I videotaped an interview with Fran on the west side of the Stripling
school grounds. She pointed to the location, on the west side of Thomas Place, where
Oswald walked home for lunch. In 1954, the building in which Oswald lived was located
at 2220 Thomas Place. It was a small, older, one story, white duplex apartment with a
wide front porch. In the late 1970's the building was torn down and replaced with a
newer, two story, wood frame duplex. Nearly all of the houses in the neighborhood sur-
rounding Stripling were built in the 1920's and 1930's and are still in very good condi-
tion. Curiously, the duplex at 2220 Thomas Place was the only building in the neighborhood that
was torn down and replaced with a newer structure.
The address of 2220 Thomas Place, behind Stripling Junior High, caused me
to remember my interview with Georgia Bell. In the fall of 1947 Georgia's neighbor,
Lucille Hubbard, drove the short, dumpy, heavy-set Marguerite to a house to pick up
some clothes after she got a job as a nurse. The house, according to Mrs. Hubbard, "was
next to the Stripling School." Seven years later, in the fall of 1954, Harvey Oswald lived
in the rear apartment at 2220 Thomas Place and attended Stripling, while his short,
dumpy, heavy-set "caretaker/mother" worked as a nurse. Nine years later, on Novem-
ber 22, 1963, the same woman, the short, dumpy, heavy-set "Marguerite Oswald" im-
poster occupied the same rear apartment and still worked as a practical nurse. The co-
incidences were unmistakable--in 1947, 1954, and 1963 the short, dumpy, heavy-set
"Marguerite Oswald" imposter was linked with 2220 Thomas Place. I decided to check
the land ownership records and Fort Worth city directories for residents of 2220 Tho-
mas Place.
Residents of 2220 Thomas Place
In 1940 the duplex at 2220 Thomas Place was purchased by Edna Pendleton.
There were two apartments-one in the front (apt. "A"), and one in the rear (apt. "B").
In 1946 and 1947 Mrs. Rufie Cox occupied apartment "A," while Erwin and Velda
Schmutz occupied apartment "B." From 1948 thru 1954 Mrs. Rufie Cox occupied apart-
ment "A," but there was no listing for anyone in apartment "B." In 1955, Mrs. Rufie Cox
occupied apartment "A," and W. A. Hazelwood occupied apartment "B."
On February 13, 1963 the property was purchased by Mary Ann McCarthy, al-
legedly a close friend of Fort Worth attorney Fred Korth. Korth represented Edwin
Ekdahl in his 1947 divorce from Marguerite Oswald, became Secretary of the Navy, and
resigned his position only one month before the assassination. The 1964 and 1965 Fort
Worth city directories show the tenant in apartment "B" as M. C. Oswald. In 1978 the
property was sold to John H. Clarke and soon the small duplex was torn down and re-
placed by a new two story, wood frame building.
1953-54 Stripling student directory
I was anxious to see if I could locate other Stripling students who knew Oswald,
and asked Fran if she had a yearbook, photos, or a student directory. Fran said that Strip-
ling did not have yearbooks, she had no photos of Oswald, but she did have a 1953-54
Stripling Student directory. 54-20 Even though the directory was printed the y ear before
Harvey attended Stripling (fall, 1954 ), I began looking through it to see if any names
were familiar.
On page 29 there was an entry for an 8th grade student who lived at 3513 Dor-
othy Lane. The student's name was Paul Gregory, the son of Russian emigre Peter Paul
Gregory. 54-21 In the fall of 1954 both Paul Gregory and Harvey Oswald attended Strip-
ling and both were in the 9th grade. Eight years later, in the summer of 1962, their paths
crossed again.
In June 1962, after Harvey Oswald returned from Russia, he sought out Paul
Gregory's father, Peter Paul Gregory, who taught Russian classes. Peter Gregory spoke
with Oswald and then wrote a "to whom it may concern" letter regarding Oswald's pro-
ficiency in the Russian language.
In the fall of 1962 Paul Gregory was studying Russian at the University of
Oklahoma and, during the Thanksgiving holidays, drove Harvey Oswald, Marina, and
their daughter to Robert Oswald's home for dinner (1962). In November, 1963, following
the assassination of President Kennedy, Paul Gregory showed up as an interpreter for
Marina Oswald.
Stripling students remember Oswald
I searched Fran's 1953-54 student directory and Fort Worth City Directories in
an attempt to locate people who had lived near 2220 Thomas Place in the fall of 1954.
I located Bobby Pitts, who lived next door at 2224 Thomas Place during the 1954-55
school y ear. Bobbie was in the l0th grade at Arlington Heights High School but his
102younger brother, Jackie (2 years younger), attended Stripling. Bobbie remembered that
when he and some of the neighborhood boys played touch football in his front yard, Lee
Harvey Oswald would stand on the porch at 2220 Thomas Place and watch.
JFK researcher Dave Reinmuth put me in contact with Doug Gann, a former
Stripling student who had attended school with Oswald. Gann said that he attended
school with Oswald in the 9th grade (1954-55) and may have been in the same
homeroom. He remembered that after school Oswald would shoot baskets on the bas-
ketball courts, and said that he lived "across the street from the basketball courts and
one or two houses to the left (south)." The location Mr. Gann described was the duplex
formerly located at 2220 Thomas Place--the same house identified by Fran Schubert.
NOTE: While Harvey was attending Beauregard, New Orleans school transcripts re-
corded no absences in the fall of 1954 for Lee Oswald. 54-22
CLICK HERE for YouTube interview with Stripling vice-principal Frank Kudlaty.
CLICK HERE for YouTube interview with Harvey Oswald's schoolmate, Fran Schubert.
CLICK HERE for more about the early years of Harvey and Lee.
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Hey, DJ....
John A. is right, and, as you keep saying....
The Evidence IS the Conspiracy!!!
What a great and honest phrase!!!
Let's keep presenting EVIDENCE! I'm thinking STRIPLING SCHOOL AND ALL JA's STRIPLING EVIDENCE should be next. What do you think? I've got JA's Stripling write-ups lined up, complete with YouTube interviews of Kudlaty and Schubert, ready to post.
Should I pull the trigger, or should we do something else first? Your opinion is most appreciated!
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