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Will Fritz 2002 book, "The Kennedy Mutiny"
Vitali Zhuk replied to Paul Trejo's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Thanks Paul, I'm not sure in the absolute truthfulness of any theory (lonely nut, inner conspiracy or outer conspiracy). I'm just trying to investigate the strong and weak sides of probable theories. Insufficient investigation of the outer conspiracy inspire my interest especially in the outer conspiracy. The history of Russia have several examples of inner conspiracy connected with outer conspiracy. Therefore the inner conspiracy not exclude the outer conspiracy and vice versa. Do you have answers for this questions about ex General Walker: 1. When Walker got the first information about Oswald, in April or in November (or later)? ( http://www.pet880.com/images/19750623_EAW_to_Frank_Church.pdf ) 2. How German newspaper obtained information about Oswald's attempt at Walker's life? ( http://www.pet880.com/images/19631129_Deutsche_NZ.jpg ) 3. Why Walker made a statement about JFK knowing Oswald? ( http://www.pet880.com/images/19920119_EAW_Oswald_arrested.pdf) From whom Walker got all the information? 4. Did Walker know about Angleton game with second Oswald? Did Walker know about CIA anti-Castro operations?- 69 replies
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Will Fritz 2002 book, "The Kennedy Mutiny"
Vitali Zhuk replied to Paul Trejo's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Thanks Paul, To solve this Counterintelligence problem we need all information about US Counterintelligence activity in the 1960s including US Counterintelligence European Division (British and France Departments). CIA (or not CIA) British and France Departments activity in the 1960s is still tabula rasa (am I mistaking about this?) and I think this tabula rasa will continue. Therefore we can only make assumptions. JFK and RFK had Irish descent. (Jackie Kennedy requested the Irish Army to be the honor guard at her husband's funeral.) Was the activation of IRA in 1969 the US response to JFK and/or RFK assassinations? CIA was suspected to help IRA. Maybe the US used the Irish factor to take revenge if the UK was involved in the case. P.S. Definitely we have an example of US spies in UK in the 1970s: http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/CIA%20England/Item%2004.pdf http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/CIA%20Clandestine%20Operations/Item%2020.pdf- 69 replies
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Will Fritz 2002 book, "The Kennedy Mutiny"
Vitali Zhuk replied to Paul Trejo's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
"Will Fritz" theory is very complicated. I read an interview with Angelton. I think he honestly did his job. "Lonely Nut" theory is more cogent. I found an interesting document you have to read:- 69 replies
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Provocation of nuclear conflict with USSR was a motif
Vitali Zhuk replied to Vitali Zhuk's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
What was the result of these provoking events? Hoover said: Mr. Dulles. Or Oswald and anybody else? Would you go that far? Mr. Hoover. Anybody else who might be- Mr. Dulles. In connection with the assassination? Mr. Hoover. Yes; I would certainly go that far. There was suspicion at first this might be a Castro act. Representative Boggs. Right. Mr. Hoover. We had information that had been obtained in Mexico City by another intelligence agency indicating there was a man who had seen a certain amount of money passed to Oswald at the Cuban Consulate. I think it was $6,000 that was passed. We went into that very thoroughly. The man later retracted his statement and stated it was not true. He was asked whether he would take a lie detector test, and he did. The lie detector test showed that he was telling a lie. It is the case 1.B in the list of provoking events. On 26 November 1963, Gilberto ALVARADO, a professed Castroitc Nicaraguan born 31 January 1940 in Ciudad Rama, Zclaya, Nicaragua, came to the American Embassy in Mexico and made a statement about Lee OSWALD. Does this provocation or others led to the real conspirators? -
I think it is the part of the Alyea film on November 22, 1963. Could anybody identify at what time this episode at 2m55s was shot - https://youtu.be/4XNHtUDEDAI?t=2m55s ? The position of the boxes in the sniper nest is all right. Could anybody provide a link to the original Alyea film? P.S. On Nov 22 the maximum of solar elevation was near 37 degrees at 12:13. Sunrise at 7:04 am. Sunset at 17:23 pm. TSBD looking near South with 15 degrees pivot to the East. Look at the the shadow on the window frame in the film. The solar elevation was approximately 30 degrees. The Alyea film was shot at approximately 13:30-15:00 pm on November 22, 1963.
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Possibly it is not a rope:
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Identifying Markings on C2766
Vitali Zhuk replied to Robert Prudhomme's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Similar rifles: http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10216553/ http://www.gunauction.com/buy/13472997/ http://www.gunauction.com/buy/13342213/ -
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19990#entry268331 beautiful - i meant of the backyard photos, tho - that's where it's hard for me to see the rifle slings (and the front of the trigger guard someone pointed out was different, slightly)... correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the entire proposed purpose of these backyard photos to show LHO's propensity for Communism (even though the two mags in his hands were of polarized schools of Communism...) AND to attach the MC that would later be found on 6 to him...? which means that in order for the Lone Gunman theory to be true, that rifle MUST BE the one found on 6. right? there's no way around that, right? if that rifle in the backyard photo is NOT C2766, then the entire LN theory is a wash. right? I have another question: On April 10, Oswald left Marina detailed instructions of what to do if he was captured by the police. Was it a fake too?
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I found a detailed article about the Rifle - http://www.whokilledjfk.net/salute_to_gil_jesus.htm Notable notes from this article: There is no record when carton number 3376 was removed from the Harborside Warehouse. It arrived at the Harborside on 10/25/60 and isn't seen again on record until it appears on Crescent Firearms invoice # 3178 dated 2/7/63. That Crescent Firearms invoice 3178 lists 10 cartons shipped to Klein's Sporting Goods, but only nine are actually checked off. The tenth, carton # 3376 ( which allegedly contained rifle C2766 ) is not checked off. A C2766 rifle sold to Klein's in June of 1962 would have been a 36" rifle. The time consumed in preparing the order would have required it to have been begun prior to 4/13/62, the effective date of the order change. That would have made the rifle a 91/38 TS ( troop special ) , which only came in a 36" length. The envelope containing the money order was mailed from a postal zone that was 3 zones away from the main post office and Oswald's place of employment at a time when Oswald was documented at work. The money order in evidence was not stamped by any financial institution that handled it and passed through the Federal Reserve System without any stamps at all. The VP of Klein's bank told the FBI that the "$21.45" item on the tape ( Waldman Exhibit 10 ) between the $15.08 and $14.36 items was an American Express Money Order. This is the same one the WC claimed was the "Hidell" postal money order. Using only manual labor and the money order amount as a guide, the Dallas Post Office employees found the money order stub in ten minutes, but it took an IBM computer in Washington 7 hours to find the money order with the number, amount and date info. Part 3 of Oswald's Post Office Box application was destroyed in violation of Federal postal regulations. Postal forms ( delivery receipt, seller's statement ) required to be filled out for firearms sales were never filled out for the rifle sale. A "certificate of character" from a judge in the county where "Hidell" lived was also required for the purchase of the rifle. No such certificate exists. The Klein's catalog number of the rifle "Hidell" ordered was different than the catalog number of the rifle found on the sixth floor of the TSBD. The WC experts comparing Oswald's handwriting used first and second generation COPIES, rather than original documents. The HSCA experts also used copies but explained the problems when not using originals. A document examiner's conclusion is correctly considered a professional opinion, not evidence. The sling mounts on the Depository rifle are not the same as the sling mounts on the rifle depicted in the famous "backyard" photographs. https://youtu.be/4XNHtUDEDAI?t=2m55s
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Take into account Earlene ROBERTS. Her testimony was troublesome for the Dallas police and favorable to OSWALD - Request http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/R%20Disk/Roberts%20Earlene/Item%2008.pdf Roberts testified before the Warren Commission that Oswald arrived home at around 1.00 p.m. on 22nd November, 1963. He stayed only a few minutes but while he was in the house a Dallas Police Department car parked in front of the house. In the car were two uniformed policemen. Roberts described how the driver sounded the horn twice before driving off. Soon afterwards Oswald left the house. Roberts also testified that she thought the police car's number was 106 or 107 or 207. Some researchers have suggested that it might have been the car being driven by J. D. Tippit (number 10). However, the Dallas Police denied they had any cars in that area at 1.00 p.m. on 22nd November. David Welsh claims that Roberts was subjected to intensive police harassment. "They visited her at all hours of the day and night, contacted her employers and identified her as the Oswald rooming house lady. As a result she was dismissed from three housekeeping and nursing jobs in April, May and June of 1964 alone; no telling how many jobs she lost after that." Earlene Roberts died of a heart attack in Parkland Hospital on 9th January, 1966. All story - http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/T%20Disk/Tippit%20J%20D%20Murder/Item%2012.pdf Tippit car
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Provocation of nuclear conflict with USSR was a motif
Vitali Zhuk replied to Vitali Zhuk's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Just return to Yuri Nosenko and the case 3.d in my list provoking of events. The brilliant defector for the US was Anatoli Golitsyn. He defected at Helsinki in December 1961. He demanded that he be interviewed by James Angleton only. He insisted that no one else in the CIA was smart enough or knew enough to question him. Attorney General Robert Kennedy went to see Golitsyn and was told that the CIA was deliberately keeping him away from Angleton. He promised to take up the case with President John F. Kennedy. Angleton later told a Senate Committee: "Golitsin possesses an unusual gift for the analytical. His mind without question is one of the finest of an analytical bent... and he is a trained historian by background." Golitsin told Angleton: "Your CIA has been the subject of continuous penetration..." In these interviews Golitsyn argued that as the KGB would be so concerned about his defection, they would attempt to convince the CIA that the information he was giving them would be completely unreliable. He predicted that the KGB would send false defectors with information that contradicted what he was saying. A fellow officer, Edward Perry, later recalled: "With the single exception of Golitsyn, Angleton was inclined to assume that any defector or operational asset in place was controlled by the KGB." In July 1963, Golitsyn travelled to London to be interviewed by MI5 officer Arthur Martin. Golitsyn like Nosenko (later defector), provided evidence that John Vassall was a Soviet agent. Soon afterwards a senior MI5 officer leaked information to British newspapers that they were interviewing a KGB defector in London. As soon as this story appeared in the press, Golitsyn returned to the United States and refused to give any more information to MI5. My question is: What game did Arthur Martin play? My hypothesis is: MI5 was constructing a new KGB defector. It did not take much time... In January 1964 Yuri Nosenko contacted the CIA and said he had changed his mind and was now willing to defect to the United States. Nosenko claimed that he had been put in charge of the KGB investigation into Lee Harvey Oswald. Nosenko added that the KGB had never questioned Oswald about information he had acquired while a member of the U.S. Marines. This surprised the CIA as Oswald had worked as a Aviation Electronics Operator at the Atsugi Air Base in Japan. CIA chief of intelligence, James Angleton, did not believe parts of Nosenko's story. Angleton was supported by Golitsyn. Richard Helms, the CIA's Deputy Director of Plans, was not convinced that Nosenko was telling the truth: "Since Nosenko was in the agency's hands this became one of the most difficult issues to face that the agency had ever faced. Here a President of the United States had been murdered and a man had come from the Soviet Union, an acknowledged Soviet intelligence officer, and said his service had never been in touch with Oswald and knew nothing about him. This strained credulity at the time. It strains it to this day." Evan Thomas, the author of The Very Best Men (1995), points out that Angleton also did not believe Nosenko. "Angleton never got over suspecting that the Russians or Cubans plotted to kill Kennedy. He thought that the Russians or Cubans plotted to kill Kennedy. He thought the Russian defector, Yuri Nosenko, who claimed that the Kremlin was innocent, was a KGB plant to throw the CIA off the trail. But most reputable students of the Kennedy assassination have concluded that Khrushchev and Castro did not kill Kennedy, if only because neither man wanted to start World War III." Hoover welcomed the information from Nosenko: "Nosenko's assurances that Yekaterina Furtseva herself had stopped the KGB from recruiting Oswald gave Hoover the evidence he needed to clear the Soviets of complicity in the Kennedy murder - and, even more from Hoover's point of view, clear the FBI of gross negligence. Hoover took this raw, unverified, and untested intelligence and leaked it to members of the Warren Commission and to President Johnson." Hoover leaked this information to the Warren Commission. This pleased its members as it helped to confirm the idea that Oswald had acted alone and was not part of a Soviet conspiracy to kill John F. Kennedy. Despite the fact that the Warren Commission received information from Hoover about Yuri Nosenko his name is not mentioned in the final report. Although the commission favoured Hoover’s interpretation that he was a genuine defector, it was decided that it was better not to include the information. This was decided after Tennent Bagley, spoke to commission members on 24th July, 1964: “Nosenko is a KGB plant and may be publicly exposed as such some time after the appearance of the Commission’s report. Once Nosenko is exposed as a KGB plant, there will arise the danger that his information will be mirror-read by the press and public, leading to conclusions that the USSR did direct the assassination.” -
Nutters come out regarding the latest MAS crash
Vitali Zhuk replied to Evan Burton's topic in Political Conspiracies
I recalled another Boeing crash. It was on September 1, 1983. U.S. congressman Lawrence McDonald from Georgia, who at the time was also the second president of the conservative John Birch Society, was on the Korean Air Lines Flight 007. Flight 007 has been the subject of ongoing controversy and has spawned a number of conspiracy theories. Many of these are based on the suppression of evidence such as the flight data recorders, unexplained details such as the role of a USAF RC-135 surveillance aircraft, or merely Cold War disinformation and propaganda.