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Liggett s and Cornell U. Malcolm Liggett earned a PHD from Cornell U. 1967. ------------------ A James Liggett also earned a PHD from Cornell. Ph.D., Civil & Evironmental Engineering, Cornell University, Ithaca NY MS, Mechanical Engineering, Union College, NY BS, Mechanical Engineering, Union College, NY --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. ----------------------
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https://archive.org/stream/JFKAssassinationFBI/62-109060 JFK Assassination Part 4_djvu.txt TRANSLATION PROM ITALIAN ✓ * ■'"&'** '* ^ /I Sv*s: 9 *i* 1 ' 4 » t { l r 'i-tt* F- + ^ w * T 4 The envelope is addressed to the FBI, Washington, • (IWp.>)i V. S. A. It bears the postmark of Livorno (Leghorn}^ Italy, Stated November 25, 1963, 8:00 P. M. ! The communication is on letterhead reading: August^Diax Attorney Via Serri8tori, 2 Livorno (Leghorn), Italy. « ’ -■ ■■■ * Leghorn, November 25, 1963 To thfe FBI . ^ . Gentlemen: . ■ The only way you will be able to lay hands on the • true and ferocious assassin of President Kennedy and him accomplices is by arresting all the policemen of Dallas, from the chief down to the last mao. time. Bovever, perhaps you have already wasted too much Best regards. 81gned: (illegible) -
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Found on this website https://www.albany.edu/~milne/06-15-2008.html Malcolm Liggett obituary http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/tcpalm/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=109226042 Malcolm Liggett Obituary - Stuart, FL | TC Palm Malcolm H. Liggett, 78, died May 5, 2008 at his home. He was born in Idylwild, Md. He served in the Air Force during the Korean War. He was an instructor at Cornell University and moved on to be an associate professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara, and San Francisco State University. He was a labor economist at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission for three years and from 1975 to1981, he served the Office for Wage and Price Stability in the Executive Office of the President. He was an associate professor of Labor Relations at Penn State Harrisburg and served for two years in the University Faculty Senate of Pennsylvania State University and was a committee chair on the Academic and Athletic Committee. In May of 1995, he was certified as a county mediator by the Florida Supreme Court and in 1999 was the founding editor of the 19th Judicial Circuit's quarterly newsletter for mediators. He was a member of the Vista Plantation Golf League. He graduated with honors from the University of Texas at Austin with a bachelor's degree in government and received his doctorate in economics from Cornell University. Survivors include his wife, Suzanne of Vero Beach; brother, Thomas Liggett of Bedford, Texas; and sister, Patricia Diaz of North Las Vegas, Nev. Memorial donations may be made to McKee Botanical Garden, 350 U.S. 1,Vero Beach, FL 32962. SERVICES: Arrangements are by Strunk Funeral Home and Crematory in Vero Beach.Published in the TC Palm on May 8, 2008
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Info on Malcolm liggette http://prabook.com/web/person-view.html?profileId=197700 Malcolm Hugh Liggett educator, labor economist Malcolm Hugh Liggett, American labor economist, educator. With United States Air Force, 1950-1953; Member Association for Evolutionary Economics, Industrial Relations Research Association, Florida Academy Professional Mediators, Pi Sigma Alpha. Background Liggett, Malcolm Hugh was born on September 3, 1929 in Baltimore. Son of Francis Marion and Neva Ruth (Crandall) Liggett. Education Bachelor in Government with honors, University Texas, 1957. Doctor of Philosophy in Economics, Cornell University, 1967. Career Instructor Cornell University, Ithaca, New York, 1962-1963. Assistant professor University California, Santa Barbara, 1963-1966, San Francisco State University, 1967-1970. Labor economist Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Washington, 1970-1973, University Texas, Austin, 1973-1975, Council on Wage and Price Stability, Washington, 1975-1981.Consultant, 1981-1983. Associate professor Pennsylvania State. University Harrisburg, Middletown, Pennsylvania, 1983-1991.With Mediation Services, from 1995. Faculty senate Pennsylvania State University, 1986-1988. Works Author: Employment Discrimination, 1978, Aluminum Prices, 1976. Contributor articles to professional journals. Membership With United States Air Force, 1950-1953. Member Association for Evolutionary Economics, Industrial Relations Research Association, Florida Academy Professional Mediators, Pi Sigma Alpha. Connections Married Suzanne LaPaugh, June 6, 1962. father: Francis Marion Liggett mother: Neva Ruth (Crandall) Liggett spouse: Suzanne LaPaugh
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Richard Gibson Fromm MMF Cryptonym: QRPHONE-1 Definition: Richard Gibson Discussion: These three files leave no doubt that Richard Thomas Gibson was QRPHONE-1. 2018/104-10217-10221.pdf 2018/104-10217-10223.pdf 2018/104-10217-10225.pdf Sources: 104-10217-10223: RICHARD GIBSON 5/22/66 revised memorandum of oral agreement for Richard Gibson aka QRPHONE-1: "QRPHONE-1's employment by WOFIRM/CIA...began on 1 June 1965...write-off of the funds passed to QRPHONE-1 is to be effected on the basis of the procedure approved by Chief, LCPIPIT and COS/(REDACTED)..." Signed by case officer Aaron C. Laginestra; approved by Chief, LCPIPIT Adrian B. Maslott. 104-10217-10221.pdf Richard Gibson "In December 1963 Subject was interiewed by a consular officer in REDACTED for information on Lee Harvey Oswald who reportedly had some contact with REDACTED 104-10217-10328.pdf Richard Gibson Mr. Gibson was asked to visite Embassy because of a repor by a controlled american source that, as an aex-official of the Fair Play for Cuba Commttee of New York, he might have had some information concerning Lee Harvey Oswald." Contributors: Bill Simpich • Jeff Morley 11 oct 1963 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10217-10201.pdf 6-11-64 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10217-10195.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10217-10190.pdf Jan 2, 63 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10217-10212.pdf Jan 25, 1963 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10217-10228.pdf
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"The Whole Bay of Pigs thing" by the late Tim Carroll Len Colby said: ... is there any way you could repost it? THE "WHOLE BAY OF PIGS THING": FROM DALLAS TO WATERGATE In the year following the Cuban Missile Crisis, President Kennedy took measures that led some to conclude that he had experienced an epiphany as a result of his joust at the abyss. A hot-line was installed between Washington and Moscow to provide for better communication in the event of some future crisis. The superpowers entered into a limited test ban treaty, ending their testing of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere, oceans, and space. During the last year of his presidency, Kennedy had also taken measures to shut down CIA-sponsored operations involving the exile community. This resulted in a schism between the FBI and the CIA, and generated new antipathy toward the Kennedy administration. The President's public assurance about what was "understood by the anti-Castro exiles" was more wish than fact.[1] Following incidents in March of 1963 when powerboats manned by anti-Castro exiles roared into Cuban harbors shooting up two Soviet freighters, President Kennedy began to take official steps to terminate U.S. support for groups like Alpha 66 that had become out of control. When Bobby Kennedy wrote his brother a memo promoting new efforts to "cultivate" an "internal breakup in Cuba," the President uncharacteristically did not respond, at least in writing. Apparently the brothers held a private discussion which led to an immediate turn-around, reflected in a presentation to the National Security Council in which Bobby dutifully played his prescribed role of informing the President that "a decision had been made to formulate a plan to shut down the hit-and-run attacks from Florida locales." The following day, the President publicly declared that he would "take every step necessary" to terminate the exile raids against Cuba. Shortly thereafter, mirroring the Kennedys' earlier turn against the Mafia, the Justice Department began prosecuting exile leaders for "violating U.S. neutrality laws."[2] At the same time, the CIA was ordered to cut off funding for the groups, leaving them to fend for themselves or draw on other sources. The President's public statement regarding the exiles' activities was unequivocal: "There will not be, under any circumstances, an intervention in Cuba by the United States armed forces. The government will do everything it possibly can; I think it can meet its responsibilities, to make sure that there are no Americans involved in any actions inside Cuba.... The basic issue in Cuba is not one between the United States and Cuba. It is between the Cubans themselves. I intend to see that we adhere to that principle and as I understand it this administration's attitude is so understood by the anti-Castro exiles from Cuba in this country."[3] Bobby Kennedy held a meeting to formulate plans to implement the new policy. It included two FBI agents, "officials of the CIA, Immigration and Naturalization Service, Navy, Coast Guard, Customs Service, the Internal Security Division of the Justice Department, and the State Department." He explained that the President "wanted to put a halt to the exile raids" and that "sixteen of the officials present" were to leave immediately for Miami "to decide what measures could be taken." Among the steps later taken were: "... serving restriction notices on certain exile leaders to prevent them from leaving the United States, refusing reentry to the United States to any exile who went beyond the 3-mile limit offshore, increased surveillance by the Coast Guard of the Florida coastline, and intensified FBI intelligence coverage of Cuban exile groups to ascertain and abort plans for future raids."[4] Following the Miami conference, the combined forces of the federal government clamped down on the same anti-Castro groups and activities that had previously been given such encouragement and support. Numerous raids were conducted in which agents of the FBI closed down exile training camps, seizing large amounts of weapons, ammunition, and explosives. While it is clear that the President was serious about doing nothing to disturb the fragile peace following the Missile Crisis, and had great reason to fear provoking disclosure of his Secret Deal with Khrushchev, it is not so clear that his brother was going along fully. Having little choice but to support the President's policy publicly, there is ample evidence that in private he continued to support the proscribed activities. The no-invasion pledge and withdrawal of support for exile activities ushered in a particularly bitter season of discontent within the anti-Castro Cuban community. A flyer dated April 18, 1963, and decorated with a profile of the Alamo, was distributed to Cubans in Miami's Little Havana. It stated: "Only through one development will you Cuban patriots ever live again in your homeland as freemen, responsible as must be the most capable for the guidance and welfare of the Cuban people." This blessing could only come to pass: "If an inspired Act of God should place in the White House within weeks a Texan known to be a friend of all Latin Americans...though he must under present conditions bow to the Zionists who since 1905 came into control of the United States, and for whom Jack Kennedy and Nelson Rockefeller and other members of the Council of Foreign Relations and allied agencies are only stooges and pawns. Though Johnson must now bow to these crafty and cunning Communist-hatching Jews, yet, did an Act of God suddenly elevate him into the top position [he] would revert to what his beloved father and grandfather were, and to their values and principles and loyalties." Obviously encouraging support for the forcible removal of the President among the anti-Castro exiles, the broadside was signed, "A Texan who resents the Oriental influence that has come to control, to degrade, to pollute and enslave his own people."[5] The least known of the measures taken by President Kennedy was a peace overture made toward Castro. To many, including top officials at the CIA and the State Department, the very idea of any sort of dialogue with Castro was heresy. Nevertheless, Kennedy authorized William Attwood, Special Adviser to the United States delegation at the United Nations, to begin informal talks with the Cuban Ambassador aimed at eventual normalization of relations between the U.S. and Cuba. He also set up a back channel communication with Castro through journalist Lisa Howard, who was flown to Cuba a number of times in 1963 using a covert operative pilot. A message had been received through U.N. personnel that Castro was displeased about the degree to which Cuba was becoming tied to the Soviet Union and was seeking to redress the balance by finding an accommodation with the United States. There was evidence that a rift had developed between Castro and some of his Communist colleagues, including Che Guevara. The Cuban leader had given an interview in which he expressed satisfaction over Kennedy's crackdown on exile raiding parties. It was at this same time that the CIA made its first contacts in nearly a year with Rolando Cubela, a high-ranking traitor in Castro's inner circle. Without the knowledge of the President or CIA Director John McCone, a small group of CIA officers, led by Desmond FitzGerald, an intimate associate of Bobby Kennedy's, prepared to use Cubela to assassinate Castro. Cubela requested a meeting with Bobby so that he could be sure that the scheme had the approval of the President. What he got was a meeting with FitzGerald, who claimed to be a U.S. Senator and Bobby Kennedy's personal representative. Government reports reveal that Cubela was in Paris being handed a poison pen and a gun at precisely the moment that President Kennedy was assassinated. In 1978, Arthur Schlesinger noted: "The whole Cubela thing raises even deeper questions. The CIA was reviving the assassination plots at the very time President Kennedy was considering the possibility of normalization of relations with Cuba-an extraordinary action. If it was not total incompetence-which in the case of the CIA cannot be excluded-it was a studied attempt to subvert national policy."[6] Although the President had specifically ordered that the U.N. discussions be kept secret, "it seems inconceivable that the CIA knew nothing about it. American intelligence had Cuban U.N. diplomats under incessant surveillance."[7] It tapped their phones, intercepted their mail, and followed their every movement. Schlesinger has noted that "if word leaked of President Kennedy's efforts, that might have been exactly the kind of thing to trigger some explosion of fanatical violence."[8] Ambassador Attwood, who subsequently realized that his telephone conversations and private meetings were insecure, agreed. He has said, "If the CIA did find out what we were doing this would have trickled down to the lower echelon of activists, and Cuban exiles and the more gung-ho CIA people who had been involved since the Bay of Pigs. If word of a possible normalization of relations with Cuba leaked to these people, I can understand why they would have reacted violently. This was the end of their dreams of returning to Cuba, and they might have been impelled to take violent action. Such as assassinating the President."[9] In an historical irony, one of the President's personal messengers, French journalist Jean Daniel, and Castro were together at the moment they learned of the President's assassination. This initiative was later described by the Cuban leader "as a gesture, as an indication of a desire to establish contact, to explore what our thinking was on all of this-and, furthermore, to establish a certain kind of communication." Castro continued, "We needed a kind of bridge, some sort of communication. Since Kennedy had such great authority in his own country after the crisis, he could have done things that he had not done before. In my view, he had the courage to do them. You had to have courage to defy the state of opinion on all these questions."[10] Castro's view of Kennedy's performances, as well as the Cuban historical view as a whole, is very interesting given the realities of the Bay of Pigs, the Secret War, and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Listening to Castro's remarks at an oral history conference in Cuba, James Blight concluded: "Kennedy is by far the most respected-even loved-U.S. president since the triumph of the revolution in 1959." He recorded the statement of one Cuban official: "You see, by not attacking Cuba in April 1961 and October 1962, we believe Kennedy's anti-Cuban machinery turned against him, like Frankenstein's monster. Those forces-the Mafia, the radical Cuban exiles, and the CIA-afterwards conspired successfully to assassinate him, because he prevented them from assassinating Fidel and destroying the Cuban Revolution. In a strange way, we believe, Kennedy had to die so that the Cuban Revolution could live."[11] Blight's impression is that when Castro discusses Khrushchev and Kennedy, "one senses that the respect is highly qualified with respect to his old friend Khrushchev, but uncomplicated and sincere regarding his old enemy, Kennedy." Castro feels that because of the "boost in the authority he got after the October crisis, when his leadership was consolidated in the United States," Kennedy was "one of the presidents-or perhaps the president best able-to rectify American policy toward Cuba"[12] At the moment of his death President Kennedy was on his way to deliver a speech in which he would address the kinds of dangerously false constructions so popular at that time in Dallas, a city which had become the epicenter of right-wing jingoistic criticism. The speech presented an almost transcendental world view which is particularly relevant to the "What would Kennedy have done?" debate over Vietnam. While recognizing that dissent is inevitable, the speech was to go on to say: "But today other voices are heard in the land-voices preaching doctrines wholly unrelated to reality...doctrines which apparently assume that words will suffice without weapons, that vituperation is as good as victory and that peace is a sign of weakness.... I realize that this Nation often tends to identify turning-points in world affairs with the major addresses which preceded them. But it was not the Monroe Doctrine that kept all Europe away from this hemisphere-it was the strength of the British fleet and the width of the Atlantic Ocean."[13] Political constructions gain a life of their own, making it difficult to harness the released energies. Like the proverbial genie out of the bottle, these manufactured realities are resistant to subsequent containment. Constructions require a special kind of devotion and loyalty; it may be hazardous to one's health to try to change course. President Kennedy knew that by reversing himself on his support of efforts to eliminate Castro, by arousing and then easing tensions against the Soviet Union, and by accepting the assistance of organized crime figures and then allowing his brother, the Attorney General, to vigorously pursue and prosecute them, he was making himself vulnerable to serious physical danger by those most disposed to lash out violently upon feelings of hatred and betrayal. During those same months of 1963 when the Cubela operation was implemented, a strange scenario was being acted out in the southwestern U.S. An ex-Marine who had previously posed as a defector to Russia was being constructed as a pro-Castro Communist. Records reveal that all of his associations were actually of the anti-Castro persuasion. He was intimately involved with the anti-Communist "White Russian" community, shared an office with the coordinator of anti-Castro activities in New Orleans, and was known to have been present at one of the exile training camps that was closed down by the FBI that summer. His name was Lee Harvey Oswald. The day after his brother's murder, Bobby Kennedy sought answers from Harry Ruiz-Williams, a CIA agent staying at a CIA-operated safe house used by Cuban exiles. Afterward, speaking with journalist Haynes Johnson, Bobby said that he "suspected CIA-backed anti-Castro forces of having been involved in his brother's death." He was later quoted as telling one of the investigators from his Senate committee days: "Those Cuban cunts are all working for the mob. They blame us for the Bay of Pigs, and they're trying to make this look like a Castro-Communist hit. I don't buy it. And I don't trust those guys at the CIA. They're worse than the Mafia."[14] Of course, Bobby knew better than anyone what had transpired beneath the surface of the administration's use of the exiles. More personally, he knew the dark side of his own role in the unleashing of elements he now considered responsible for his brother's death. Many of those close to Bobby who saw in him a classic case of survivor's guilt were unaware that a much deeper level of responsibility may have informed his anguish. Bobby had personally entertained Cuban exiles at his house, Hickory Hill, and kept in touch with them at their apartments at the Ebbitt Hotel in downtown Washington, where they were housed by the CIA. Even Desmond FitzGerald, Bobby's replacement for Wild Bill Harvey, was concerned about the directness of Bobby's involvement with the Cuban exiles. The Attorney General's freelancing with the the Cuban exile community was a formula for disaster. Peter Collier and David Horowitz have written poignantly about Bobby's anguish over what may have been an unintended consequence of his own actions: "It was Bobby who had led the administration into dangerous places, daring the gods of the underworld and seizing the fire that finally erupted into anti-Kennedy hatred. He had done it in the service of his brother's presidency, yet he had gone past duty or necessity, using his special status as the brother within to justify what had become at times an almost perverse exploration of self. While Jack was alive, everything was justified; now that he was dead, it was all called into question. Had his acts created an environment for assassination? Had his zeal helped create the concatenation of forces that wanted Jack dead?"[15] Four years after the assassination of the President, the CIA Inspector General conducted an internal investigation which was forwarded to Lyndon Johnson, who told newsman Howard K. Smith: "I'll tell you something that will rock you; Kennedy was trying to get Castro, but Castro got to him first."[16] In March 1967, columnist Drew Pearson wrote, "President Johnson is sitting on a political H-bomb-an unconfirmed report that Senator Robert Kennedy (Dem. N.Y.) may have approved an assassination plot which then possibly backfired against his brother." The source for the Pearson article was the original mafioso hired by the CIA to kill Castro, Johnny Roselli. The spin being placed on this new round of stories was, like the Oswald promotion, aimed at leading the public to believe that Castro was behind the conspiracy in Dallas. Roselli had revealed to Pearson, through his attorney, Edward Morgan, that "One of our assassination teams was captured and tortured until they told all they knew about our operation which they said was ordered by the White House." Roselli asserted that "the team was turned around, you know, brainwashed, and sent back into our country to kill Kennedy." All good lies contain a good measure of truth, and such may be the case with Roselli's attempt at history-making. Although this colorful rendition is compelling, given the source, it should be recognized that contained in this version is the admission that it was an anti-Castro hit team that had killed Kennedy. But this secret "team" would hardly have required anything so exotic as brainwashing to retarget its skills against the President. By November of 1963, Kennedy was clearly a foe to the extreme anti-Castro elements; they believed he had cancelled the airstrikes and betrayed the Bay of Pigs operation, then compounded the betrayal by giving the no-invasion pledge, and finally sealed the antipathy by shutting down the exile camps and beginning negotiations directed toward the normalization of relations with Cuba. When Roselli's well-connected lawyer asked him how he had contained such explosive information, Roselli noted that "all phases of this operation were approved by Allen Dulles and President Eisenhower." He questioned why neither Dulles, who was a member of the Warren Commission investigating the Kennedy assassination, nor Eisenhower, who had full knowledge of the plots, ever came forward. "So what was I supposed to think?" He inferred that the President "wanted to keep the lid on." Roselli speculated that perhaps Johnson "thought it'd be bad for the country to know about this operation-you know, the government of the United States involved with the so-called Mafia to kill the leader of a foreign country and then it boomerangs."[17] A possibility that may never be resolved is Johnson's notion that some action taken by Bobby Kennedy "backfired against his brother." There is ample evidence of Bobby's continued encouragement of anti-Castro efforts during a period of time when his brother, the President of the United States, was pursuing a very contrary policy. Because of the closeness of the brothers it is generally assumed that Bobby was fulfilling one aspect of a multi-track approach on the part of the Administration. While it is understandable that some token support for the exiles might be considered prudent as a way of co-opting more radical elements, the extent to which one approach represented the direct undermining of the other presents a historical conundrum regarding the brothers' coordination of authority. The possibility must be considered that Bobby crossed the line of plausible deniability into a realm in which he was acting in his own highly unofficial capacity apart from any directed intention on the part of the President. Had he, like King Henry II's henchmen, acted on his own to eliminate his brother's Becket? Consistent with Michael Beschloss' observation that "the most likely explanation for the cause of Kennedy's death lies in his policies,"[18] the convergence of CIA-Mafia-Cuban exile operations with the events surrounding the President's assassination provides strong circumstantial evidence of the motive and means for that crime. But there is more direct evidence. In a 1985 libel trial, E. Howard Hunt ("Eduardo") filed suit contesting an assertion in an article written by former CIA officer Victor Marchetti implicating him in the assassination, including an alleged 1966 memo initialed by CIA Director Richard Helms and Deputy Director for Counterintelligence James Angleton, which discussed Hunt's presence in Dallas and the possibility that "a cover story, giving Hunt an alibi for being elsewhere the day of the assassination, 'ought to be considered.'" Speculating on why such an extraordinary cover-up would be put in writing, a high level CIA source said, "The memo is very odd. It was almost as if Angleton was informing Helms, who had just become director, that there was a skeleton in the family closet that had to be taken care of and this was his response."[19] Castro's former mistress-turned-CIA agent, Marita Lorenz, testified of her direct knowledge of Hunt's participation, as well as that of other anti-Castro Cubans, in the events in Dallas leading up to November 22, 1963. She claimed to have been in a two car caravan with Frank Sturgis, Orlando Bosch and others traveling from Miami carrying numerous weapons. Upon their arrival in Dallas they were met at their motel on November 21st by their old paymaster, "Eduardo." An hour after Hunt delivered the money and departed, another character out of history arrived: Jack Ruby. In that trial, an amazing exchange took place after Hunt testified that, "like thousands of other Americans, millions," he, his wife and children had huddled together at home that fateful weekend, "and watched the burial services."[20] Yet, despite providing his own children as alibis, he had also asserted his legal damages to be the doubts in their minds about their own father's activities. The question was asked: "Mr. Hunt, why did you have to convince your children that you were not in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, if, in fact, as you say, a fourteen-year-old daughter, a thirteen-year-old daughter, and a ten-year-old son were with you in the Washington, D.C. area on November 22, 1963, and were with you at least for the next forty-eight hours, as you all stayed glued to the T.V. set?" After a long pause, Hunt lamely asserted that. "it was less a question of my convincing them that I was in Washington, D.C. with them-rather, reminding them that I was-than it was to assure them that none of the charges...had any substance to them at all." The magazine's attorney followed up with: "What I want to know is since they knew how outrageous the lies were, why did they have to be convinced by you that you weren't in Texas?" Hunt simply replied: "Reminded, reminded."[21] Hunt had failed to anticipate that the two elements of his story-that his children were with him the entire weekend and that his children were unsure of where he had been at the time-were mutually exclusive. Hunt lost his lawsuit. The jury did not even debate the malice issue because the truthfulness of the assertion had been sufficiently proven. On the tenth anniversary of the invasion fiasco, April 17, 1971, E. Howard Hunt had traveled to the Bay of Pigs Monument in the Little Havana area of Miami to recruit exile veterans for a new operation. Resurrecting the dream of overthrowing Castro, Eduardo had assured them that "the whole thing is not over."[22] Subsequent events would expose a high level role played by these terrorists when a team of Bay of Pigs veterans was caught burglarizing the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate complex in Washington, D.C. Found among the burglars' effects was evidence that they were being coordinated by E. Howard Hunt, who had an office in the White House. In addition to political burglary, Hunt had been given the high-level assignment of manufacturing evidence of President Kennedy's complicity in the assassination of South Vietnam's leader in 1963, Ngo Dinh Diem. President Nixon subsequently managed to remain in power for more than two years, withstanding remarkable disclosures, until the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that he had to turn over tape recordings of certain Oval Office conversations. Nixon was out of office within two weeks, primarily because of the disclosure of a taped discussion about Hunt that occurred a few days after the break-in. This tape recording has become known in history as the smoking gun conversation. During that incredible exchange that would topple a presidency, Nixon ordered his Chief of Staff, H. R. Haldeman, to meet with Richard Helms, the Director of the CIA, and tell him to call off the FBI's investigation of the burglary for national security reasons. Nixon suggested that Hunt's involvement be used as a lever to make sure the CIA would cooperate. The transcripts of President Nixon's rantings about Hunt are perhaps the most factually revealing evidence of deep politics in history: "Hunt...will uncover a lot of things. You open that scab there's a hell of a lot of things.... Tell them we just feel that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further. This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves. When you get the CIA people in say, "Look, the problem is that this will open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing again." So they should call the FBI in and for the good of the country don't go any further into this case. Period. Just say (unintelligible) very bad to have this fellow Hunt, ah, he knows too damned much.... If it gets out that this is all involved, the Cuba thing would be a fiasco. It would make the CIA look bad, it's going to make Hunt look bad, and it's likely to blow the whole Bay of Pigs which we think would be very unfortunate-both for the CIA, and for the country, at this time, and for American foreign policy. Just tell him to lay off....[23] Haldeman recorded Helms' dramatic reaction to the threat: "Turmoil in the room, Helms gripping the arms of his chair leaning forward and shouting, 'The Bay of Pigs had nothing to do with this'" Despite this, Helms acquiesced and Haldeman was able to report to the President that "his strategy had worked," that Helms would be "very happy to be helpful." But the remarks and Helms' behavior raised the question in Haldeman's mind: "What was such dynamite in the Bay of Pigs story?" The more innocuous explanation is that Nixon, as the chief White House official involved with the Eisenhower administration's Cuba invasion planning, knew of the government's use of Mafia assassination assets in the efforts against Castro. However, following years of study, analysis and reflection, along with his personal knowledge of the players involved, Haldeman asserted a more astonishing answer to that question: "It seems that in all of those Nixon references to the Bay of Pigs, he was actually referring to the Kennedy assassination." Given his reaction, it is apparent that Helms clearly understood Nixon's message.[24] Aside from such an interpretation of the dark secret to which Nixon was alluding, he and the CIA director had a more current mutuality of interests. Helms wanted to suppress the CIA-Hunt relationship because it violated the Agency's charter regarding domestic spying. Nixon wanted to suppress the White House-Hunt relationship because it would reveal precisely for whom the chief Watergate burglar was working. E. Howard Hunt clearly represented a problem for more than one major Washington power center. Nine months after the smoking gun conversation, when Hunt was about to be sentenced, Nixon was told that Hunt had issued a blackmail demand in lieu of revealing some of the "seamy things" he had done for the President. Nixon's response was unequivocal: "Well, for Christ's sakes...get it."[25] Notes 1. Michael R. Beschloss, The Crisis Years: Kennedy and Khrushchev, 1960-1963, (New York: HarperCollins Publishers, 1991), 687. 2. William B. Breuer, Vendetta: Castro and the Kennedy Brothers, (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1997), 209. 3. James Reston, "Top U.S. Advisers in Dispute on Aid to Castro's Foes," The New York Times, April 11, 1963. 4. Breuer, 210-211. 5. William Manchester, The Death Of A President, (New York: Harper & Row, 1967), 46. 6. Anthony Summers, Conspiracy, (New York: McGraw-Hill Book Co., 1980), 426. 7. Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., Robert Kennedy and His Times, (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Co., 1978), 557. 8. Summers, 427. 9. Ibid., 426. 10. James G. Blight, Bruce J. Allyn and David A. Welch, Cuba On The Brink. (New York: Pantheon Books, 1993), 237. 11. Ibid., 191. 12. Ibid., 191-193. 13. Gaddis Smith, Gaddis, The Last Years of the Monroe Doctrine. (New York: Hill and Wang, 1994), 111-112. 14. David C. Heymann, RFK. New York: Penguin Putnam Inc., 1998), 10. 15. Peter Collier and David Horowitz, The Kennedys, (New York: Summit Books, 1984), 317. 16. New York Times, June 25, 1976. 17. Ovid Demaris, The Last Mafioso. New York: Bantam Books, 1981), 235-241. 18. Jefferson Morley, "November 22, 1963: Why We Need The Real History Of The Kennedy Assassination," Washington Post, (November 24, 1996). 19. Joe Trento and Jacquie Powers, "Was Howard Hunt in Dallas The Day JFK Died?" Wilmington Sunday News Journal, (August 20, 1978). 20. Mark Lane, Plausible Denial, (New York: Thunder's Mouth Press, 1991), 282. 21. Ibid., 283-284. 22. Carl Oglesby, The Yankee and Cowboy War. (Kansas City: Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc., 1976), 277. 23. H. R. Haldeman, The Ends of Power, (New York: Times Books, 1978), 33. 24. Ibid., 38-39. 25. Theodore H. White, Breach of Faith, (New York: Reader's Digest Press, 1975), 199-200.
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Just an interesting thread
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Mr. BALL - What did you notice in the railroad yards? Mr. WEITZMAN - We noticed numerous kinds of footprints that did not make sense because they were going different directions. Mr. BALL - Were there other people there besides you? Mr. WEITZMAN - Yes, sir; other officers, Secret Service as well, and somebody started, there was something red in the street and I went back over the wall and somebody brought me a piece of what he thought to be a firecracker and it turned out to be, I believe, I wouldn't quote this, but I turned it over to one of the Secret Service men and I told them it should go to the lab because it looked to me like human bone. I later found out it was supposedly a portion of the President's skull.
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Protest Misic / Musicians
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More from Ernie Lazar. Some additional JFK-related files: | FBI file JFK Assassination | 32,000 pages added | FBI file Lee Harvey Oswald | Mexico City | FBI file Warren Commission (8379pp) | FBI file George DeMohrenschildt Weisberg Collection on the JFK Assassination: https://archive.org/details/nationalsecurityarchive-weisberg?sort=titleSorter Dallas PD Documents on JFK Assassination: https://archive.org/details/dallas-pd-jfk-documents?sort=titleSorter Edwin A. Walker Collection: https://archive.org/details/edwinwalkercollection?sort=titleSorter For those interested in JFK-assassination-related books, Hamilton Books now shows the following titles available at very significant discounts: https://www.hamiltonbook.com/products/search?q=jfk+assassination&cat_id= Title Author Binding Item # Price Info HIT LIST: An In-Depth Investigation into the Mysterious Deaths of Witnesses to the JFK Assassination R. Belzer & D. Wayne Paperbound 5895596 $5.95$16.99 View » POST MORTEM: The Classic Investigation of the JFK Assassination Medical and Ballistics Evidence and Cover-Up Harold Weisberg Paperbound 5813689 $5.95$14.95 View » THE MISSING JFK ASSASSINATION FILM: The Mystery Surrounding the Orville Nix Home Movie of November 22, 1963 Gayle Nix Jackson Hardbound 5770548 $17.95$24.99 View » THE POISON PATRIARCH: How the Betrayals of Joseph P. Kennedy Caused the Assassination of JFK Mark Shaw Hardbound 7660448 $6.95$24.95 View » ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT: The Warren Commission, the Authorities & the Report on the JFK Assassination Sylvia Meagher Paperbound 3605566 $4.95$14.95 View » NEVER AGAIN! The Government Conspiracy in the JFK Assassination Harold Weisberg Paperbound 269865X $5.95$14.95 View » DAVID FERRIE: Mafia Pilot, Participant in Anti-Castro Bioweapon Plot, Friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and Key to the JFK Assassination Judyth Vary Baker Paperbound 3604551 $17.95$24.95 View » WHITEWASH IV: The Top Secret Warren Commission Transcript of the JFK Assassination Harold Weisberg Paperbound 7660626 $4.95$14.95 View » IN THE EYE OF HISTORY, SECOND EDITION: Disclosures in the JFK Assassination Medical Evidence William Matson Law Paperbound 4530551 $19.95$29.95 View » OSWALD, MEXICO, AND DEEP POLITICS: Revelations from CIA Records on the Assassination of JFK Peter Dale Scott Paperbound 3678334 $4.95$14.95 View » BULLETINS FROM DALLAS: Reporting the JFK Assassination Bill Sanderson Hardbound 5882524 $17.95$24.99 View » THE REPORTER WHO KNEW TOO MUCH Mark Shaw Hardbound 5874874 $18.95$26.00 View » THEY KILLED OUR PRESIDENT: 63 Reasons to Believe There Was a Conspiracy to Assassinate JFK Jesse Ventura et al Hardbound 7582668 $5.95$24.95 View » AMERICAN LEGACY: The Story of John & Caroline Kennedy C. David Heymann Paperbound 3610004 $2.95$16.00 View » THE ACCIDENTAL VICTIM: JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and the Real Target in Dallas James Reston, Jr Hardbound 2660776 $3.95 View » JFK: A New World Order DVD 2666219 $3.95 View » LEE HARVEY OSWALD--48 HOURS TO LIVE: Oswald, Kennedy, and the Conspiracy That Will Not Die Steven M. Gillon Paperbound 5899869 $3.95$16.95 View » KENNEDY: The Man, the President and the Tragedy DVD 5999863 $9.95$29.98 View » THE KENNEDY DETAIL: JFK's Secret Service Agents Break Their Silence Gerald Blaine with L. McCubbin Paperbound 4503384 $5.95$16.00 View » LAST WORD: My Indictment of the CIA in the Murder of JFK Mark Lane Paperbound 6526500 $4.95$14.95 View » THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: The Truth Behind the Conspiracy That Killed the President David Southwell Hardbound 4575881 $4.95$29.95 View » AUTOPSY: Postmortem with Michael Baden DVD 5708966 $4.95 View » AFTER CAMELOT J. Randy Taraborrelli Hardbound 760954X $2.95 View » JFK'S LAST HUNDRED DAYS: The Transformation of a Man and the Emergence of a Great President Thurston Clarke Hardbound 2747790 $2.95 View » THE BONE TREE Greg Iles Paperbound 5838509 $7.95$9.99 View » THE WAR CONSPIRACY: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War Peter Dale Scott Paperbound 5813743 $5.95$16.95 View » PARKLAND DVD 2695863 $3.95 View » THE THIRD BULLET Stephen Hunter Hardbound 5528755 $7.95$26.99 View » AMERICA'S QUEEN: The Life of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Sarah Bradford Paperbound 5778115 $7.95 View » DR. FEELGOOD R.A. Lertzman & W.J. Birnes Paperbound 577036X $4.95$14.95 View » THEY KILLED OUR PRESIDENT: 63 Reasons to Believe There Was a Conspiracy to Assassinate JFK Jesse Ventura et al Paperbound 3639533 $5.95$14.95 View » THE UNWITTING Ellen Feldman Hardbound 4588568 $2.95$26.00 View » TRUMPOCALYPSE NOW! The Triumph of the Conspiracy Spectacle Kenn Thomas Paperbound 6599133 $13.95$16.95 View » THE GREAT PARADE Peter Filichia Hardbound 6576397 $5.95$29.99 Quote
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A bunch of links from Ernie Lazar. Thanks Ernie! A bunch of links from Ernie Lazar, Thanks Ernie For those who are interested -- here are links to various files which are about subjects discussed in this and other Forum threads | FBI file Dean Adams Andrews | FBI file David William Ferrie | FBI file Silvia Duran | House Select Committee on Assassinations Martin Luther King Jr. Report | | House Select Committee on Assassinations Report | CounterSpy Spring 1976, Volume 3 Issue 1 | Church Committee Reports | Warren Commission Report and 26 Appendix Volumes | House Select Committee on Assassinations Report and 12 Appendix Volumes | Final Report Of The Assassinations Records Review Board | Jim Garrison file Miguel S. Torres | Jim Garrison file Clay L. Shaw | Jim Garrison file Secret Service N. O. Investigations | Jim Garrison file Albert Osborne; AKA Bowen, John Howard | Jim Garrison file Harry Olsen | Jim Garrison file Mobile, Alabama | Jim Garrison file Edward Julius Girnus | Jim Garrison file Research Materials | Jim Garrison file Ferrie, David William (Deceased) | Jim Garrison file Vernon Bundy | Jim Garrison file Misc (7 folders) | Jim Garrison file Bill Williams Wilfred Jr. | Jim Garrison file Edward James Whalen | Jim Garrison file Ward, Johnson, Jr. | Jim Garrison file Miguel Torres | Jim Garrison file Photographs | Jim Garrison file Photographs-Persons Appearing with Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas Police Department Identification "Line-Up" | Jim Garrison file Photographs Trade Mart Aerial View: Trade Mart Floor Plans | Jim Garrison file Mrs. Marguerite C. Oswald v. Liberty Insurance Company of Texas | Jim Garrison file Texas Attorney General's Report | Jim Garrison file Clay Shaw Notebooks | Jim Garrison file Shaw | Jim Garrison file Shaw & Canada | Jim Garrison file Shaw-Bernedez-Weiss Lead | Jim Garrison file Shaw III World Trade Center (Italy) | Jim Garrison file Shaw & Cuba | Jim Garrison file Shaw Leads | Jim Garrison file Clay Shaw - Associations | Jim Garrison file Death of Ferrie | Jim Garrison file Salandria "Model" | Jim Garrison file Perry Russo | Jim Garrison file Jack Ruby | Jim Garrison file George Lincoln Rockwell | Jim Garrison file Leonard Reissman | Jim Garrison file Marina Oswald Porter | Jim Garrison file James Phelan | Jim Garrison file Robert Perrin | Jim Garrison file Ruth Paine | FBI file Lee Harvey Oswald | Jim Garrison file Photographs of Oswald Shooting in Basement 3 of 3 | Jim Garrison file Lee Harvey Oswald 2 of 3 | Jim Garrison file Investigation of the Operation Security Involving the Transfer of Lee Harvey Oswald November 24, 1963 1 of 3 | Jim Garrison file Oswald - Lakefront | Jim Garrison file LHO/ONI File | Jim Garrison file Oswald's Property | Jim Garrison file Oswald's Notebook | Jim Garrison file Lee Harvey Oswald | Jim Garrison file Odd Sects | Jim Garrison file Richard Case Nagell | Jim Garrison file Griscom Morgan | Jim Garrison file Mexico | Jim Garrison file J. 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Mercer | Jim Garrison file Layton Martens | Jim Garrison file Betty Mooney MacDonald | Jim Garrison file Lead Files (misc.) | Jim Garrison file Dave Kroman | Jim Garrison file Individuals engaged in obstruction of D.A.'s Investigation of JFK Assassination | Jim Garrison file Giesbrecht, Richard E. | Jim Garrison file Philip Geraci | Jim Garrison file Robert Kennedy Grand Jury Transcript, Medicolegal Investigation (Coroner) & FBI Reports | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous Investigative Reports and Memorandum 2 | Jim Garrison file Charts "Activity Correlations" and "Departures From Reilly Coffee Company" | Jim Garrison file Material re: Clay Shaw | Jim Garrison file Suggested Beckham Questions | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous Investigative Reports and Memorandum | Jim Garrison file Materials pertaining to prosecution of Garrison in 1971 | Jim Garrison file Kerry Thornley | Jim Garrison file Smith - Tertiary | Jim Garrison file Smith - Secondary | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous Investigative Reports and Memorandum (3 folders) | Jim Garrison file Interview of William A. Morris, 7/12/67 17 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Folder Entitled "End of Garrison Miscellaneous Files" 16 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Material 15 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Material on Secret Societies 14 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Deposition of Richard McGarrah Helms, E. Howard Hunt v. Liberty Lobby, Inc. 13 of 17 | Jim Garrison file New Orleans Conference 9/21/1968 12 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous Investigative Reports and Memorandum 11 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Fan Mail 10 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Marguerite C. Oswald v. King Candy Company 9 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous Investigative Reports and Memorandum re Clay Shaw, David Ferrie, Layton Martens 8 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Material 7 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Bank of New Orleans 6 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Time, Place and Number Correlations (Ruby, Ferrie, Oswald and Shaw) 5 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Material 4 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Material 3 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Old Wine In New Bottles 2 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Material 1 of 17 | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Material | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous Material re: Assassination. Includes Newspaper Clippings, Photographs, Reports, and Memoranda | Jim Garrison file Notes And Fragments For Manuscript, "The Warrior Chieftans" | Jim Garrison file Smith Case - Loose Matter | Jim Garrison file Early Script For Movie JFK | Jim Garrison file Duncan Patterson | Jim Garrison file Donald P. Norton | Jim Garrison file Marlene Mancuso | Jim Garrison file Kerry Thornley | Jim Garrison file Shaw 3 | Jim Garrison file Richard E. Giesbrecht | Jim Garrison file New KT Leads | Jim Garrison file Newcomb/Adams Manuscript | Jim Garrison file George Senator | Jim Garrison file Commission Documents (Fensterwald Collation) | Jim Garrison file Amos Heacock | Jim Garrison file Gordon Novel | Jim Garrison file J. G. | Jim Garrison file G-2001 Jim Garrison Assassination File | Jim Garrison file G-1465 1975 I. R. S. | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous Reports and Memoranda re: Assassination Investigation | Jim Garrison file Garrison Miscellaneous | Jim Garrison file Garrison and Alcock | Jim Garrison file Jack Frazier - Rider Coffee House | Jim Garrison file David Ferrie | Jim Garrison file Earl Wallas Edwards | Jim Garrison file Dr. Stanley L. Drennan | Jim Garrison file Dealey Plaza | Jim Garrison file Current Material | Jim Garrison file Miscellaneous News Clips | Jim Garrison file Raymond Cummings | Jim Garrison file Crusade to Free Cuba | Jim Garrison file Fred Lee Crisman | Jim Garrison file Court Papers | Jim Garrison file Conspiracy To Kill JFK -- Its Meaning | Jim Garrison file Committee To Investigate Assassinations, Inc. | Jim Garrison file Clinton Witnesses | Jim Garrison file Rose Cheramie | Jim Garrison file David Chandler | Jim Garrison file New Dalzell File | Jim Garrison file Central Intelligence Agency | Jim Garrison file Employees Of Guy Bannister | Jim Garrison file Unknown/Misfiled | Jim Garrison file General Charles P. Cabell | Jim Garrison file Julien Buznedo | Jim Garrison file Broshears# 1234 | Jim Garrison file Reverend Raymond Broshears | Jim Garrison file Eugene Hall Brading | Jim Garrison file Philip Boatright | Jim Garrison file T. E. Beckham | Jim Garrison file Guy Bannister | Jim Garrison file Sergio Arcacha | Jim Garrison file Dean Andrews
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Dehmorenshildt, frequent trips to houston: C. Osmet Moody. A subject and angle I have not seen before. Also a good thread with forum members demonstrating collegiate teamwork.
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Wynne and Vicki, Southland Center 1963
Michael Clark replied to Andrej Stancak's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Bumping There a a few questions for you in this thread. For those who have not seen the 4th video, Wynne implies that the possibility that Vicky was steered to that meeting, whether wittingly or unwittingly. He also says that a missed phone call may have been an attempt to contact him by the same people that may have steered Vicky to the Southland Center. Presuming, as a hypothesis, that what happened was meant to happen, with regard to the Southland lobby encounter, then why? I'be been playing with the various shaped pegs and holes, trying to see what fits the scenario as presented, assuming that Wynne and Vicky were steered to the encounter. I have separated-out the most obvious schemes, that do not appear to have any fitment. One thing that did happen, according to the story, Is that DAP was seen with LHO and AV. Wynne and Vicky could later be sought out to testify to this fact. Given their ages, they could probably be counted do forget the incident entirely unless called-upon. Indeed, this did happen, they forgot about it, and let it go. They story was never needed. Presuming that DAP, wittingly or not, was the subject of this sheep-dipping, one has to ask why, or, to what end? The most obvious answer is to be able to blackmail DAP, if necessary; to marry him absolutely to the conspiracy, even if LHO and Veciana were to die. One of the most frequent complaints about the likelihood of this meeting taking place is due to what are described as blatant violations of tradecraft. DAP could have been set-up. Someone might have known about the DAP VC meeting and sent LHO there, whithout DAP expecting him at all. So, something was allowed to happen or made to happen that DAP would never have allowed. On the above I was just thinking out loud. I am hoping Wynne will jump in, answer some questions and perhaps offer some insight. Cheers, Michael