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Bunk. You're talking about something that you don't really understand. How many adults with Asperger's have you evaluated and treated over the years? As for "enhanced auditory-based language," are you suggesting that Oswald listened to readings of Fathers and Sons and The Brothers Karamazov in 1960, rather than reading them? Oswald's linguistic abilities were rated as mediocre, at best, in the Marine Corps. Where's the linguistic "enhancement" to which you refer? In fact, he couldn't even spell. Speaking as a board certified psychiatrist from Harvard Medical School, (class of '83) my opinion is that it isn't plausible at all that a dyslexic, native English-speaking high school dropout like Oswald would read and discuss the novels of Turgenev and Dostoevsky in Russian. That's an ability that we would expect to see in native Russian speakers, or grad students in Slavic languages. And, like Bojczuk, you're misrepresenting what I said on this thread. I began with a hypothetical if/then question about Armstrong's theories. And I never said that I didn't believe there were long-term doppelgangers. I'm still trying to make sense of the complex data about Oswald-- including Angleton's obfuscation on the subject. If you guys have to repeatedly distort what forum members say to win an argument, something is seriously wrong here. As for my passing comment (above) about Hoover, I was merely struck by the fact that Hoover, himself, expressed concerns about a possible Oswald doppelganger/imposter after Oswald's defection. Then, four years later, he was quite aware of an Oswald imposter.

I'm not sure which news story today is more bizarre-- Trump hoarding top secret, unsecured classified nuclear documents at Mar-a-Lago, or Trump declaring that he's a "perfect physical specimen."🤥

Yeah, sure thing, Jonathan. Like the "reasonable, plausible alternative" explanation that an autism spectrum disorder might explain a Texas high school drop out's ability to read and discuss Turgenev and Dostoevsky in Russian? Got it. As for Bojczuk's blather about Hoover, do you also deny that Hoover was quite aware of the Oswald doppelganger/imposter in Mexico City in 1963? The point I made, in passing, about Hoover after Oswald's defection, is that, even at that time, Hoover expressed concerns about a possible Oswald imposter. And contrary to Bojczuk's rhetoric, I said nothing about the origin of such a putative doppelganger.

Jeremy, Please stop misrepresenting what I have written. This is now your third ad hominem smear on this thread. Three strikes and you're out. I don't "regurgitate anything uncritically." That has never been my approach to science, history, or any subject. I have merely raised some questions on this thread, based on recently re-reading John Newman's 1995 opus, Oswald and the CIA, and two John Armstrong articles published in James DiEugenio's The Assassinations anthology. I notice that, in addition to repeating your mantra about John Armstrong's Oswald data being "debunked," you also have a tendency to reference the work of Warren Commission Report apologist W. Tracy Parnell. Parnell is a guy who has relentlessly promoted Fred Litwin's debunked, "On the Trail of the Delusion," propaganda about Jim Garrison. Great resource there.

Bernie also won our 2016 Democratic Party Caucus here in Colorado, winning 60% of the vote to Hillary's 40%. That said, voting for Hillary in November of 2016 was a no brainer, and Hillary won Colorado in November of 2016. I'm still amazed that even now, six years later, so many Americans still haven't realized that Trump is a sociopath.

Here's a link. Harvey in Russia... Lee in the USA (harveyandlee.net)

A typo. I've mentioned Luis Alvarez previously in the context of discussing the use or academic scientists to perpetuate false narratives.

Addendum: Tom, regarding Oswald's 1959 defection to the U.S.S.R., John Newman documented a number of curiosities about the government records in the case in his 1995 opus, Oswald and the CIA, including the fact that the CIA waited a year before opening a 201 file on Oswald. If I recall correctly, J. Edgar Hoover also expressed awareness/concern about an Oswald double. Then there are the witness accounts of Lee Oswald involved in anti-Castro ops in Florida while "Oswald" was living in Minsk.

Robbie, Interesting stuff. BTW, Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos, was a hot topic on this forum after it was published. That thread got moved to the Deep Politics board.

Tom, I'm a (retired) Board Certified psychiatrist who has evaluated and treated a lot of patients with autism spectrum disorders over the decades. And Russian literature has been an interest of mine for many years. I don't doubt that Lee Oswald, the dyslexic Texas high school drop out, could have learned some rudimentary Russian in the Marine Corps, but the notion that he could have developed the proficiency to read and discuss Turgenev and Dostoevsky in Russian is simply not plausible. Ergo, I believe the CIA cultivated a Russian-speaking Oswald double for their false defector op. Have you studied John Armstrong's research? Meanwhile, I notice that Jeremy Bojczuk continues to repeat his mantra about Armstrong's Oswald data being "debunked." Are we supposed to be convinced by his repetition of the claim?

Thanks, Sandy. I'll check it out.

C'mon, Jonathan. Reading and discussing Turgenev and Dostoevsky in Russian? How many Turgenev and Dostoevsky novels have you read? I can't picture a dyslexic high school drop out from Texas reading and discussing Turgenev and Dostoevsky in Russian-- regardless of a possible autism spectrum disorder. That is, frankly, far less probable than Armstrong's theory about the Harvey and Lee doppelgangers. If you're looking for "baffling" theories about Oswald to "debunk," take a closer look at Greg Parker and Jim Purtell's "explanatory" theory about Oswald's unusual fluency in Russian. 🤥

Princeton professorial craziness, Jeff? What planet are you living on? Planet Sputnik? Do I need to remind you that the Soviets occupied Eastern Europe for decades after 1944-- even sending in tanks to crush nascent democratic movements in Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the 50s and 60s? Do you think those people want to live under Moscow's thumb? Now the Baltic states and other formerly occupied territories are literally tearing down their Lenin statues and Soviet monuments. And the former Warsaw Pact nations are extremely grateful for NATO protection. No one has compelled them to join NATO. They're desperate to join. You would be, too, if you lived in Lithuania. So, you are misrepresenting NATO's role in defending liberty and freedom from Putin's fascist, totalitarian yoke-- misrepresenting NATO as the military aggressor. But the 2022 aggression in Ukraine is Putin's fault. Period. He invaded Ukraine, bombing civilian targets, and exfiltrating Ukrainian civilians to his Gulag. He's a war criminal, by choice. Do you also deny that Putin is a dictator who now controls the Russian media, and incarcerates political opposition leaders? A man who has been openly contemptuous of liberal democracy?

I suppose that nothing should shock me when it comes to Donald Trump's lifelong evasion and obstruction of justice, but this one shocks me. I'm not a lawyer but, surely, this ruling doesn't pass the sniff test, does it? Even Bill Barr said that there was no reasonable case for the appointment of a Special Master.

Jonathan, I wasn't using quotation marks, but merely paraphrasing John Pic's claims about not recognizing Oswald as his younger brother. What is your opinion about "Harvey" Oswald's alleged ability to read and discuss Turgenev and Dostoevsky in Russian? It, certainly, struck me as something quite unusual for a formerly dyslexic Texas teenager who dropped out of high school at a young age to join the Marines. I can't picture Lee Oswald reading and discussing the philosophical musings of Ivan Karamazov in Russian! Are you familiar with Armstrong's discussion of that subject?

Chris, Since you have mentioned Mearsheimer again, I'm re-posting Princeton historian Stephen Kotkin's explicit disagreement with Mearsheimer's opinions about Russia, NATO, and the current Ukraine crisis. (We discussed this six months ago, and I'm rolling the rock back up the hill.) As an aside, I just finished reading Mikhail Bulgakov's 1925 novel, The White Guard, about the Ukrainian civil war in 1918. Ukrainian nationalists were fighting Russians a century ago. Sadly, there's a lot of bad blood there, which Putin has taken to a whole new level.

I want to point out that this glib, inaccurate post by Jeremy Boczjuck offers nothing of real value to our discussion here of Armstrong's Oswald research. It also includes a deliberate misquotation attributed to an Education Forum member, and an inaccurate statement about John Pic's testimony that he didn't recognize his brother Lee as the child in the Bronx Zoo photo. There's too much of this kind of nonsense on the subject, and not enough honest discussion of the evidence. In contrast, Tony Krome and Henry Frost have presented some useful photographic evidence for our discussion, rather than simply repeating the blather about Armstrong's work allegedly being "debunked."

Well said, Sandy. Jonathan Cohen, obviously, struck out on the John Pic testimony issue. There's, obviously, more to Armstrong's. doppelganger data than some people imagine. As for this debate about Armstrong's H & L research and my original hypothetical question, hats off to Tony Krome and Henry Frost for presenting some valuable evidence about the subject. I learn something every day on this forum. I started this discussion with questions, not answers. Tony answered one of my questions. There's an old Chinese proverb that used to make the rounds at the Massachusetts General Hospital when I was a medical student. "He who asks a question is a fool for one minute. He who doesn't ask a question is a fool forever."

A Nordic version of the Myth of Sisyphus? Instead of a rock, he rolls a snowball down the hill? In Trump's case, the story is bound to have a very ugly ending. (Someone pointed out that all Trump stories end in Chapter 11.)

So, notice how Trump now has his MAGA cult focusing on their rage at the U.S. government, and resistance to the rule of law, in response to what, exactly? To the belated, drawn out investigations of his serious crimes-- his coup attempt on January 6th, and his blatantly illegal handling of classified documents. Quite a mob psychology trick, with a major assist from Trump Republicans and the right wing media. And, IMO, the longer these belated Trump investigations fester, the worse the MAGA cult violence problem will become. Trump would burn the country down to save his own skin. Trump's lap dog, Lindsey Graham, is threatening violence if Trump is indicted, but I think the risk of violence is worsened by allowing Trump to control the narrative and incite violence.

Tony, I must admit that this is a more convincing likeness. The nose, teeth, hairline, and ears look nearly identical. Do you know who published these photos?

Indeed, I have. But I don't see an elevated lesion below the lids on the photos. Do you? Nor do the two women resemble each other, as witnesses who knew them in real life have also attested. Meanwhile, how do explain John Pic's testimony that the man we all know as Lee Harvey Oswald was not his younger half-brother Lee Oswald? Any thoughts?

What amazes me is that people are so willing to accept a single, possibly photo-shopped, image of a mole as proof that the two strikingly dissimilar Marguerites are the same person. For me, it is one more illustration of the social psychology finding that people's perceptions are strongly influenced by popular, shared social paradigms. The shared "perception" is perceived as reality. The CIA propaganda people have used this concept for years to manipulate the public. It's the same reason why so many people can look at film of an exploding skyscraper and still insist that it didn't explode, or at film of JFK's head being blasted backwards, and still insist that the bullet was fired from the TSBD.

Speaking of CIA moles, where's the mole in this Marguerite Claverie Oswald photo? Thus far, we have only one, possibly photo-shopped, imgur.com photo (of unknown origin) showing a "mole" on the right lower lid, and several other photos showing no mole-- including one from 1960 (above.) Was there a CIA mole placed in the Oswald Project? And why did John Pic say that he didn't recognize Lee Harvey Oswald as his younger half-brother Lee Oswald?

I wonder if we will ever get to learn any details about all of the undercover CIA informants who disappeared in 2021. The problem was reported in the NYT last October, before we heard anything about Trump's Mar-a-Lago stash of classified records, including his files about undercover CIA informants.