Rob Couteau

Thanks for this, Jim.

1. Has the New York Times ever recanted its official editorial stance that: (a) Oswald was supposedly "the lone assassin" and there was no conspiracy to kill JFK. (b) the Warren Commission report was "correct" in its conclusions. (c) there was a "magic bullet." 2. Has the Times ever published a favorable review of a book that disputed any of the points stated in question #1?

Yes, indeed!

"[Lieutenant Day] was a police officer who always kept 'finding' or 'losing' just that type of evidence needed by the Commission. He 'found' fingerprints; he 'lost' palmprints; he 'found' a three-foot paper bag; he 'lost' memos and he 'found' memos. You name it and Lt. Day either 'found' it or 'lost' it. He was worse than the girl in the song 'who lost it at the Astor'; at least she knew where she had 'lost it' and also what she had lost." -- Stanley Marks, from "Two Days of Infamy: November 22, 1963; September 28, 1964," p. 145-146. "She Had to Go and Lose It at the Astor" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skx3qNBfUm8 From Wikipedia: "She Had to Go and Lose It at the Astor" is a 1939 comic song by Don Raye and Hughie Prince and was recorded by Dick Robertson, Pearl Bailey and the British bandleader and clarinetist Harry Roy. The original recording credits the writing and arrangement to John Doe and Joe Doaques (obvious pseudonyms).The song was recorded on 3 April 1940 by Harry Roy and his Mayfair Hotel Orchestra. It was banned by the BBC in the same year, and censured by the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers in 1940. The song begins with a spoken introduction and tells a story about a young woman losing something at the Hotel Astor. By use of double entendre and the repeated refrain, "But she had to go and lose it at the Astor," the listener is led to believe that the song is about her losing her virginity to one of the hotel staff until the very end when it is revealed that what she had in fact lost was her sable cape."

As usual, spot on David.

I agree. One way or another she will be "disappeared."

And there you have it.

Thanks for reading and for your feedback, Kirk. Yes, I think this guy had a lot of courage to do what he did. He was certainly a survivor.

From Whitney Webb's Twitter thread: "1/2 Having now read the SDNY indictment of Ghislaine Maxwell, one thing stands out. The charges are mainly for enticing minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts specifically w Epstein and there is also a perjury charge .... 2/2 However, the indictment says Maxwell herself sexually abused the victims but WASN'T charged for that. In other words, they admit that she sexually assaulted minors but is only charged her for enticing minors to travel for abuse by Epstein, NOT her. Slap on the wrist incoming." "Short thread on some things to consider re: reports of Ghislaine's arrest.1. They waited until after Bill Barr fired G Berman2. They reportedly arrested her in NH, they've known where she is this whole time, waited till now. Why now?3. If Ghislaine goes to prison, she'll get suicided. Remember they took out her dad when he became a liability to Israeli Intel.4. Sponsors of the Epstein - Maxwell op no longer need sex blackmail, all tech-based now, they want this scandal tied up and memory holed.5. The crazy news cycle, between covid19, protests, global tensions, econ collapse, ensures that people's attention will be less focused on her arrest than Epstein's a year ago6. Plays into Trump's reelection by bolstering (false) claim that he is "taking down the pedos"Whitney Webb7. Initial arrest doesn't necessarily mean Ghislaine is going to prison or will be held accountable for anything8. The fact the FBI won't even touch or question Les Wexner ("head of the snake" of the whole op) tells you that any effort to go after Ghislaine is superficialWe'll see what they say at the press conference, but remember that it's their actions that matter and that need to be watched, not their press conference rhetoric. New SDNY guy was installed by Barr (Berman was fired) right before this arrest happened." Whitney Webb@_whitneywebb

Thanks, Paul!

Ron, Better late than never. And even though I've read it twice, it's due for a third reading. I like the way you honed in on the index cards. The cards tell the tale in abbreviated form. They are like the Tarot cards of the JFK assassination. Condensed to bare-bones form, we know enough today that we can fill in many of the blanks ... and flesh out the bigger picture.

Thanks for this, Joe. I saw it when it first came out, so I missed the scene. Time to watch that film again in homevideo version.

Gorightly comparing Thornley to other “luminaries from the period” such as Ken Kesey reminds me of George de Mohrenschildt's remarks about Oswald: "Ahead of his time really, a kind of hippie of those days." Oswald was pretty far away from ever being a hippie, just as Thormey was no cool cat beatnik (and certainly no luminary from _any_ period). Pretty much from the get-go, Thornley also seemed to want to pass himself off as some kind of (right-wing) hipster. What was the motivation behind selecting that kind of a persona?

Where would we be without Jim Di, and without K&K? Nowhere else does there exist a venue like that. Thanks, Anthony.

A playwright composing a drama on the assassination would have a field day with this memo.

Thanks William. You might be interested to know that his foster parents lived in a Russian Jewish neighborhood in Chicago, and I strongly suspect his biological parents were also from Russia. Irony of ironies that he is then subject to the Stalinesque blacklist in our own country.

I think you summed it up perfectly. He was lucky to have a woman like Ethel behind him through thick and thin. That really is a great photo. Thanks for reading, Anthony. Will pass your remarks on to Roberta.

I will tell her you said that. It will mean a lot to her. In a way, Marks was lucky that he didn't attract more attention. Because they would have made life much more difficult for him. Look what they did to Mark Lane. The FBI trailed him 24/7 and (according to what he wrote in his memoir) the CIA made an attempt on his life. When I mentioned this to Roberta, she agreed.

Thanks for all the great feedback. I told Stanley's daughter, Roberta Marks, about some of the interest generated here at the Forum, and I asked if she had a special message for our members. This is what she said: “I am so thrilled and so excited that discovering my dad’s work means something to them. And tell them how excited and thrilled he would be that people are responding to what he wrote. He would be talking to each one personally – believe me, he would be on the phone talking to all of them!”

Thanks for mentioning this, Larry. I have your SWHT but didn't know about Shadow Warfare.

From Joachim Joesten's "Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy," first published in 1964. See paragraphs 2-5, p. 34. Even back in 1964 Joesten, could smell a rat at the TSBD and makes these prescient remarks.

Hi Ron, Just in case you haven't read it yet, there's some good stuff about Morales in Gaeton Fonzi's "Last Investigation."

Thanks for posting these, Joe. How lucky that you were there! My parent's took me to see JFK campaign in Brooklyn circa 1960, but I was only four years old - too young to remember.

For anyone who doesn't have the time to listen to the full Tom O'Neill interview, this piece by Tom from late last year has a lot of the same, really good info: https://theintercept.com/2019/11/24/cia-mkultra-louis-jolyon-west/

How ironic that William Harvey ended up working at Bobbs-Merrill, the publisher of the first edition of Sylvia Meagher's "Accessories After the Fact."