David Boylan

I'm not sure. It may have come up in Whitewash II. There are some references in Weisburg's Orleans Parish Grand Jury testimony from pages 55 to about 61 here: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=57 It's kind of sketchy, I'll have to dig a little more. Steve Thomas Steve/Greg, If I remember right, Weisberg actually talked to Castorr in Maryland. Dave

Here's his obit. L. Robert Castorr Association Executive L. Robert Castorr, 92, a retired executive with a number of business groups and a retired colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve, died April 7 after a heart attack at National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda. Mr. Castorr, a resident of Bethesda, was born in Detroit and enlisted in the Army Reserve at age 18 in 1930. He served in the Civilian Conservation Corps for a year, then after further military training and education moved to active duty in 1940. During World War II, he served in North Africa and in the Burma campaign as an infantry combat commander. After the war ended, he briefly served as chief of staff and spokesman for Gen. George C. Marshall at the Pentagon. He left active duty in 1947 but stayed in the reserves until 1973. Mr. Castorr worked as a field manager for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and as national field manager and assistant to the president for the National Federation of Independent Business, handling legislation and public relations, through the 1960s. He later moved to the Small Business Administration, where he was assistant to its president and oversaw its program for retired executives. In later years, he worked for himself as an international trade consultant. Mr. Castorr was an official with the World Conference of Mayors during the 1980s. He served as an officer with the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, the Knights of Malta, and was a member of the Order of St. Stanislas, a philanthropic organization. His first two marriages, to Dorothy Castorr and Gertrude A. Castorr, ended in divorce. Survivors include his wife of 30 years, Dorothy Vasco Castorr of Bethesda; two sons from his second marriage, William Castorr of Battle Creek, Mich., and John Castorr of Dallas; two brothers; five grandchildren; and seven great-grandchildren.

Has anyone asked Gordon Winlsow? He might know. Dave

Washington Post, 12/9/63 Oswald Picketed Adlai Rally in Dallas, Witnesses Say By Ronnie Dugger DALLAS, Dec.8 -- Curious ironies continue to multiply in the wake of the President's assassination here Nov. 22. It now appears that Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin, attended not only a rally addressed by Gen. Edwin Walker Oct. 23, but also one addressed by United Nations Ambassador Adlai Stevenson Oct. 24. A Dallas woman who sat near Oswald at an Oct. 25 meeting of the Dallas Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union says that when the Stevenson meeting of the night before was being discussed, Oswald nodded his head and said, "I was there." Oswald said this in an aside to Michael Paine, who had brought him to the meeting, the woman clearly recalled. Oswald's wife and children lived with Paine's estranged wife in Irving, a Dallas suburb. Larrie Schmidt, Dallas insurance salesman was also at the Stevenson meeting, leading a group of pickets against Stevenson. Yesterday Bernard Weissman, who placed an anti-Kennedy advertisement in the Dallas News on the morning of the assassination, told a newsman in Mt. Vernon, N.Y., that Schmidt telephoned him after the meeting at which Stevenson was spat upon, and asked Weissman to come to Dallas to help out in the aftermath. Schmidt acknowledges that, in advance of the Stevenson speech, he telephoned "a friend of mine in a local university" and asked if he could help find people to demonstrate against the United Nations. The friend arrived with 14 young pickets, and a "peaceful picketing" was organized, Schmidt said. The persons who spat on Stevenson and struck him with a picket sign had nothing to do with his well-dressed and orderly group, Schmidt said today. "We deplore and certainly do not condone the actions of those people," Schmidt says. At the A.C.L.U. meeting on Oct. 25, Oswald rose during the open discussion and remarked that he had attended the Walker speech two nights before and had observed anti-Semitic and anti-Catholic symptoms there. A man who attended the A.C.L.U. meeting and who sat beside Oswald, has been located and corroborates other recollections about Oswald's remarks there. This source confirms that Oswald said in the aside that he had attended the Stevenson rally. A Dallas businesswoman, who refused to be identified, said she believes she saw Oswald picketing at the scene of the Stevenson speech. "He was the only one who did a military type turn. This called my attention to him," she said. She believed Oswald's group picketed and left before the disturbance broke out against Stevenson. A second Dallas woman, a housewife, said: "I believe he was there, and he was carrying a picket sign in the lobby." Neither the businesswoman nor the housewife remembered what kinds of signs were carried by the group led by the man they now believe was Oswald.

Originally from Anne Marie Kuhns-Walko: The following is an excerpt of a 15 Page document available from the National Archives under RIF #180-10078-10023. It is a letter from a private citizen named Grace B. Vale to the HSCA dated July 10, 1978. BEGIN DOCUMENT EXCERT: PERSONS WHO MAY HAVE INFORMATION AND BEEN OVERLOOKED II. ROY FRANKHOUSER worked as an undercover agent and said he was scheduled to testify before the Warren Commission in 1964 until someone in the Executive Branch quashed his subpoena for "National Security" reasons. Frankhouser said in a 1975 interview he has information about teams organized for the Kennedy assassination by agents who infiltrated groups ranging from right to left, including the Minutemen, the American Nazi Party, and the Socialist Workers Party. Frankhouser said Michael and Ruth Paine were fellow undercover agents whom he met in 1960 when he infiltrated the Socialist Workers Party. The Paines became involved with Lee Harvey Oswald in early 1963. According to Frankhouser, Ruth Paine was Oswald's intelligence "baby sitter" ad helped him set up a radical left-wing cover including his one man Fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans. Frankhouser also said the Paines took Oswald to New York and attended an International Scientific meeting where Frankhouser met Oswald. [1] The following independent support gives Frankhouser's story an edge of credibility: a. Many researchers believe George De Mohrenschildt was Oswald's intelligence "baby sitter." George De Mohrenschildt introduced Ruth Paine to Oswald, and after De Mohrenschildt left for Haiti in April, 1963, Ruth Paine was in constant touch with Oswald or his wife until November 22. b. Ruth Paine did go to the northeast in September, 1963, and a Secret Serviceman asked Marina Oswald if she had any knowledge about Oswald's trip to Washington, D. C., one of the cities Ruth Paine visited. [2] Furthermore, in a letter to the manager of The Worker in New York City dated August 31, 1963, Oswald applied for a job as a photographer and said he would be in New York "in a few weeks." [3] c. An International Scientific Organization did meet in New York in September, 1963, when Ruth Paine was in the northeast. Its name was the Comite International de l'Organisation Scientifique, and its chief host was David Rockefeller. It met from September 16 through 20, 1963. Ruth Paine returned to New Orleans on September 20. [1] New Solidarity, November 2O, 1975. Norman Kempster also reported Roy Frankhouser's revelations In the Washington Star. [2] Hearings before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, US Government Printing Office, 1964, XXIII, 387. [3] Hearings, XXII, 169-170. FRANKHOUSER - 2 - The United States affiliate of the Comite International de l'Organisation Scientifique, the host to the International Management Congress, as it was called, was the Council for International Progress in Management. They did not refer to business, they were talking about managing the world. In a welcoming speech the host David Rockefeller said the program had been "carefully planned over a two year period." The official program which was printed in the Don Bell Report of September 13, 1963, said, "Leaders from business, education and government from approximately 100 countries will participate... Special grants from the U. S. State Department, several foundations and corporations will bring approximately 250 of 'tomorrow's leaders' to the Congress, and to unique four week management development courses... The Comite International de l'Organisation Scientifique, sponsor of the Congress, has played a major role in the last 4O years in influencing managerial thinking, methods and practices..." In addition to David Rockefeller, some other members of the Advisory Board were: Henry R. Luce, Editor-in-Chief, Time, Life, Fortune Malcolm Muir, Honorary Chairman, Newsweek, Inc. Frank Stanton, President, Columbia Broadcasting System Harold S. Geneen, President, International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation W. W. Overton, Jr., Trustee, former Chairman, National Industrial Conference Board; Chairman of the Board and President, Texas Bank and Trust Company of Dallas James W. Aston, President, Republic National Bank of Texas [4] (Warren Leslie wrote, "[in Dallas] there are a few men ,whose support in any civic project is an absolute necessity. Among them [are]...James Aston, head of the Republic National Bank... The bankers are present not only because of the personal influence of the men but because in any civic project the bank 'clearing house,' an organization of all Dallas banks, must approve ... Without the banks... the project is dead."[5] Jack Ruby's closest friend, Ralph Paul, who had a financial interest in the Carousel, was alleged to have been a banker associated with the Republic National Bank. [6] [4] Don Bell Reports, September 13, 1963. Cited and reprinted in Wickliffe B. Vennard, Sr., What's wrong in Washington? Forum Publishing Company, 324 Newberry Street, Boston, pp. 84-94. [5] Warren Leslie. Dallas Public and Private, Grossman Publishers, New York, 1964, p. 75. [6] Hearings, XXIII, 3 FRANKHOUSER - 3 - (Patrolman Joe Murphy said the pickup truck stalled near the Book Depository Building on the morning of November 22,1963, was the property of a company doing construction on a bank building. [7] Julie Mercer reported a man carried a rifle case from this stalled truck to the grassy knoll, and said the driver of the truck was Jack Ruby. [8] the next day, November 23, Ruby called Breck Wall In Galveston at the home of Tom McKenna whose son was working on a construction job at the Republic National Bank.)[9] d. Further support for Frankhouser's story is provided by Larry Schmidt who lead a group who infiltrated right wing organizations in Dallas in the year before President Kennedy's assassination. Schmidt wrote the black bordered ad that "welcomed" President Kennedy to Dallas in an insulting manner, and was also the leader of the group that attacked Adlai Stevenson on October 24, 1963. [10] In a letter marked "DESTROY" on every page to SP Larry Jones stationed in Munich where Schmidt had been in charge of public relations for Armed Forces Recreations Centers before his discharge, [11] Schmidt revealed that he and his colleagues lacked the ideological convictions of the groups they were planning to infiltrate. This letter, which as Schmidt boasted to Jones his first letter would be, is on National Indignation Committee stationary. In it Schmidt tells of deal he has made with the National Indignation Committee (NIC) to merge his group called Conservatism, USA (CUSA)with NIC. You must understand I am making this offer with tongue in cheek - we'll get rid of our new 'partners.' ... NIC is ripe for take over exactly as we planned... NIC leaders are not demagogues - are 'guy next door' - nice American guy, sincere' dedicated - not too bright... everything is going our way! I'm calling the shots - and I have painted a lovely picture - best con job yet. "All plans must be in final form by 1 July 63... It is all up to you... You people must learn conservatism immediately. Everyone will read 'Conscience of a Conservative' now... you must know Conservative philosophy..." [12] [7] Commission Document 205, printed in Josiah Thompson, Six Seconds in Dallas, Bernard Geis Associates, New York, 1967, p. 219 [8] Jim Garrison, A heritage of Stone, G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1970, pp. 43-4 [9] Hearings, XIV, 613. [10] Hearings, XXIII, 471-472 [l1] Hearings, V, 495. [l2] Hearings, XVIII, 878. FRANKHOUSER - 4 - Schmidt was apparently an able and Intelligent man. He had worked as editor of the Culver City Citizen, Culver City, California, before serving in the Army.[13] Another person associated with the National Indignation Committee In the pre-assassination period was Morris Tannehill [14], described as appearing highly educated, very well read, with an excellent personality. After the Kennedy assassination he told T. V. Stephens Jack Ruby was "dead either way he goes unless he gets a life sentence because somebody will rub him out," and that it was well known that Ruby had been mixed up with the Communists and had a plane chartered to go to Mexico the day of Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination, but did not go..." On February 18, 1964, Tannehill displayed a business card to Stephens which said he was a sales representative of the Noel R. Chapin Company, 4136 Commerce, Dallas , Texas. [15] In a report dated April 17, 1964, Tannehill advised he was employed at Christian Memorial Foundation, Kansas City, Missouri. [16] A credit bureau report listed him as a former employee of Acme Electric, no address shown. [14] In Dallas Tannehill had lived at 5715 Beckley (the Holiday Lodge Hotel), [14] where two strange deaths took place shortly after the assassination. One of them a 23 year old ex-marine named Jack Eugene Ramsey was found hanging in a room in the Holiday Lodge Motel at 5715 Beckley, on May 8, 1964, and the other was the manager of the motel who died shortly thereafter. [17] (Jack Ruby reportedly made dates for girls who worked in his club in the holiday motel in Irvington, where Ruby had an associate. [18] And Willard DeLacy stated he last saw Ruby on November 19, 1963, at the Holiday Inn Motel. [19] I don't know if these Holiday Motels are the one where Tannehill lived and the murder and other death occurred, however.) e. Michael Paine said he also attended meetings of the National Indignation Committee [20] and of the other right wing and left wing causes, and indicated Oswald did the same. [13] Hearings, XXIII, 471. [14] Hearings, XXVI, 317. [15] Hearings, XXVI, 115. [16] Hearings, XXVI, 318. [17] Penn Jones, The Midlothian Mirror, Midlothian, Texas 76065, January 20, 1972. [18] Hearings, XXIII, 373. [19] Hearings, XXV, 713 [20] Hearings, XI, 400. FRANKHOUSER - 5 - Paine remarked while testifying to the Warren Commission, "I remember stepping over him [Oswald] as he sat in front of the TV,...and thinking to myself for a person who has a business to do he certainly can waste the time. By business 1 mean some kind of activity and keeping track of right-wing causes and left-wing causes or something." [21] Even if Roy Frankhouser is an agent of disinformation, independent sources show there is some truth to his story, and I hope you will thoroughly pursue the above leads. [21] Hearings, II, 412.

Bill is this David Cabeza? If it is, he was an associate of John Martino and later worked with him in his Import/Export business. If my memory is working ok today, he was also associated with Rolando Masferrer. I'm sure James has a picture of Cabeza. :-) Dave

"Be sure to read about the US Army Air Defense Command document on Beckham on page 372 of Mellen's book!.....reading in part: "intelligence service from Oct. 27, 1963 under Gov Control Fact Finding Missions....." - Peter Lemkin Interesting...there was also a report that Clint Wheat called his wife from an Army base after he disappeared when he found out Garrison was going to supoena him. Wheat is a very under-researched subject. Here's some Beckham HSCA testimony: Beckham: Right. Okay. I guess the best place to start is a meeting I had in Algiers, Louisiana...that's as soon as you get off the ferry boat. It's in Orlean Parish. This meeting was attended by myself, Sergio Arcacha, G. Wray Gill, a gentleman by the name of Marcello. If I'm not mistaken a picture I've seen of him was Vincent Marcello. Along with me was a gentleman, a little bitty guy, his name was O Lord, let's see, Morello, Charlie Morello, and Sergio Arcacha was there. Roswell Thompson and a lady by the name of Berglass, she was Anna. At this meeting there were Cubans present, other ones. We talked about, I say "we", they talked about the assassination of the President....We also had a meeting at a place called the Town and Country. That's a motel, vaguely as I can remember on the right hand side of the highway going out towards the airport. This meeting was attended by a Marcello, there was G. Wray Gill, and us there at the time. At that particular meeting, the Cuban issue was discussed, the President, his involvement and how, oh, different things, that, how the President refused to give air support, things like this was discussed. Also I delivered a package approximately, I'd say, two weeks to Dallas prior to the assassination of the President, to a Mr. Howard. I went into Mr. G. Wray Gill's office, I was told to go there by Mr. Ferrie, which I knew real well, and in his office shuffled up some documents which were drawings, that of a map, or plots and stuff. There were some pictures, pictures of buildings and cars and was regular pictures but they wasn't glossy. They were put inside of an envelope at which time G. Wray Gill handed me...it was either one hundred or two hundred dollars, and told me that I was to be, I was going to be taken to the airport. I was to deliver this package to a Mr. Howard at the Executive Inn. At this meeting was Roswell, was Jack Martin, David Ferris[sic] and a bunch of...Sergio Arcacha. Also at the meeting was your Mr. Marcello was at the meeting, setting at, they were setting on a couch. I remember the couch....My good friend Clay Shaw was also there. […] I was sitting at my desk at my home and Jack Martin I had got hold of and asked him, I found out that Martin was a, I knew that Martin was in the Organization and I thought that Martin was to sell me out, using me as the escapegoat [sic]. And I got mad at Martin and hung up with Martin and that’s when I received my telephone call from Crisman …telling me don’t worry about the [Garrison] investigation, that I was to go to someplace in Iowa that they couldn’t serve me there, and not to worry about it. I said “well, Jack is selling me out.” He said, “Don’t worry about Jack. Jack is himself leading the investigation in another direction, and he’s a, it’s going in the opposite direction… That Jack was the plant inside of it and would feeding information [sic], only the information he wanted Garrison to know. ------------------------------------- And an anonymous letter to Garrison. Some believe that Crisman himself sent it. Mr. G; Out on the coast is a man you should talk with. Trace this information out. His name is Fred Lee Crisman, of Tacaoma, Wash. He flys to New Orleans steadily. 1964 eleven times. 1965, 17 times. 1966 32 times, 1967 24 times. He is the first man Clay called after being told he was in trouble and he is the first man that Beckham called also. He was questioned by both the CIA and FBI in 1966 but he is able to call Wash. and they laid off of him in a hurry. He is very good friends with Cubans and specially SA [sergio Arcacha] in Dallas (he goes there too) and J.R. [Jorge Rodriguez] in N.O. Mr. Crisman is a very odd man. He supplied money for certain political campaigns and in return is very much protected by both Lou. politicos and Wash. state people. He has a diplomatic passport issued on the word of a senate chairman of a committee. He seems to have no income and certainly spends a large sum of money on air travel. He is friends with F. Gremillion of your state. His private office has an unlisted number (206 Ma 7-4790) and is the meeting place for many odd characters from Cubans to political figures. Ask him to take a lie detector test and then ask him where he put the $200,000 dollars delivered to him by Beckham in August of '67. (Cuban Money) Money that is used to recruit killers to be sent to Cuba to try for Castro ask him if it is not true that he has sent 5 different men to S.A. in Dallas for final briefing. Make Crisman talk and you will have the answer to why there has been fighting among certain Cuban factions over the money in certain buried places. You know this is true because some special Cubans have dropped out of sight. (Dropped in Torpedo Junction) Crisman is also a pilot. He is the man that through Beckham and S.A. (Arcacha] paid off certain people is it not odd that he was a friend of Clay's as well as Beckham. Is it not strange that he knew Tippet! Just ask Crisman certain questions under a lie detector and see what the answers are. He is the one that advised Mark Evans [beckham's alias] to hide out in Iowa and NOT to go to N.O. to make any statement about money or anything. Have an investigator check out the amount of long distance calls that Beckham (Evans) has made to Crisman in the past year and the wild places Crisman calls. He is leaving for Europe in Jan. Keep digging Jim, you have some odd fish on the run. --------------------------------------------------------------------- There was also a report that Crisman was hiding Wheat.

Steve/James, Good thread and good info. Dave

teve, Great find! I think I've posted this before but it deserves a second look: HSCA Testimony of Loran Hall. Pg. 60 Mr. Triplett. Just give us a very brief description of the purpose of the meeting and those people there. Hr. Hall. We were wasting our time with the hit and run raids in Cuba. It was a waste of effort. We were losing too much equipment, too many boats to the Coast Guard, CIA, FBI, the whole stick. Not only did we have to worry about fighting the Cubans but we had to fight the American Government also. So rather than go through all that Logue and myself decided what we would try to do was form a government-in-exile, Cuban government-in-exile, try to get all the groups to come together under one group. In order to do that we had to have someone, some Cuban who would be accepted by all of the groups. That was my job in Dallas, I mean Miami. We tried to do that. We couldn’t get that accomplished. The groups wouldn’t agree to one president. So we decided what we would try to do was get $50,000 between Logue and his group, get enough equipment and enough boats so we could make our raid into Cuba, get boats from Cuba so we could have a line of logistics between the United States and Cuba, and in that way possibly we could have ---at a later date get someone who would be accepted by all the different groups, and if we could have gotten enough equipment and enough people involved was [sic] and could have formed a government-in-exile. Mr. Triplett. So essentially are you saying this meeting was for the purpose of raising money to accomplish this task? Mr. Hall. Yes. Mr. Triplett. And your role in the meeting, you, Loran Hall, were there sort of as a promoter or the person to explain it. Is this what your purpose was for being there? Mr. Hall. I think it was. I was there mostly because I was you might say the military part of the operation. Mr. Triplett. At that meeting was a comment made regarding the killing of President Kennedy? Mr. Hall. Yes, there was. Mr. Triplett. Which one of these persons that you have described made the comment? Mr. Hall. The man by the name of Jack that owned the trucking company. Mr. Triplett. What exactly did Jack say and do? Mr. Hall. What we were saying, was between the five of them, they could come up with $10,000 apiece, come up with $50,000, that would be enough money to get us started. And Jack jumped up, or whatever his name was, jumped up and threw either his billfold or checkbook or something on the table and said, xxxx, I will put $50,000 in right now if the rest of you will match it, and we will have Kennedy’s head blowed off because with Johnson in as President, he is a Texan and Texans take care of Texans. […..] pg 83. Mr. Triplett. What was your purpose for being in Dallas at that time? [March, 1963] Mr. Hall. That is when I went to, I think that was the time that I went to Dallas, Texas to see Lester Logue concerning forming a government-in-exile, a Cuban government-in-exile, at which time he agreed that it would be a avenue that would be worth looking into, at which time he got me a ticket and I flew back to Miami and I started pursuing that avenue. […] Mr. Triplett. What were you doing during the daytime? Mr. Hall. Contacting various people, trying to make contact for equipment. Lester Logue, I went and seen Niko [Crespi] several times and I think on one occasion Dan Smoot, and I seen Robert Morris, and I went to the newspaper place and talked to “Poor Richard” or whatever his pen name was. ----------------------------------------------------------- Weisberg interview of Hall Feb 1968. Hall. [describing his two Cuban friends in Dallas. ] I remember one of them was kind of stout, real stout built and about, oh, I would say he was about 5’10” or 5’11”. – and the other one was short, he was probably 5’6”, small in stature and I know his dad owned a Sugar plantation in Mexicalli. […] Weisberg. Yeah. Hall. And I went to see Keating [senator Keating], because I had sent Keating, that never did show – never came through because he never said a word about it. Weisberg. Incidentally, and you may not want to talk about this it’s just curiosity, nothing directly to do with this- do you have any idea who was feeding Keating the stuff on the Cuban missile crisis? Hall. Oh I have , I have a good idea who it was, I ah, I ah, don’t know for sure but I have a good idea – it was the CIA. Pg 46. Hall. Well, wait just a minute, it does in a way because we had talked, to uh, Duncan [Tom Duncan] and some of the other guys about going in and pulling a raid in Georgia out at Fort Benning where they carry all the , uh… Weisberg. You mean to get some equipment. Hall. Yeah, you know, you know, this is standard procedure, steal Army equipment. Hell, they’ve got it and we want it. Weisberg. Well, there is reason to believe that it happened down in Texas. Hall. Oh, we know it did. Weisberg. Really? Hall. Oh –haha. Weisberg. Really know it happened, or is all you have is rumor. Hall. We know..(laughter) Weisberg. Care to tell me about it? Hall. No, I don’t want to.. Weisberg. You know there were people involved… Hall. I know quite a few people involved. Weisberg. Did that stuff really get out? Hall. Damn right it did. Weisberg. Didn’t have anything to do with getting your boats in Dallas did it? Hall. I’m not saying a word. (laughter) No, I can tell you that there was 250 VARS [sic] that got out. […] Hall. They went to Majaris, from Majaris right, right into Cuba and they went to Oriente. […] Hall. Yeah, do you know where Majaris Island is at?…Well it’s off Yucatan…there is an island called Majaris. [..] pg 73 Hall. …We had a hell of a deal set up – we were going to take all the, uh, we were going to take Prio Socarres to Guatemala and we were going to invade Cuba from Guatemala into Oriente, set up a 24 hour holding period and ask the United Nations to come in and help us and we were going to do this and Prio Soccares got…Yeah, and do you know what. The dirty lousy son of a bitch wouldn’t do it. Prio Soccares flat turned me down and I had the money, I had the ground and I had everything set up. Weisberg. Did you have an army? Hall. You bet. ------------------------------- The Jack that owns the trucking company was most likely J.E Rose of the Rose Truck Line.

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Steve, Thanks much for the info. I believe it was Crespi that Hall was with when they went to hassle Oswald when he was passing out leaflets. I'm also working under the theory that Hall (Howard and Celio Castro-Alba) left the weapons (and medical supplies they picked from Guy Gabaldon's garage(?)) at Lester Logue's father's or father-in-law's house (I've seen both) to have John Masen convert them to full auto. They originally picked up the weapons from Clint Wheat in LA. Maybe someone could tie this altogether - Hall's arrest in Dallas when he came back to pick up the weapons, snitching on Masen to either Hosty (FBI) or Coyle, the FBI and ATF investigation of Masen and the "Cubans", Masen's knowledge of a new invasion, Masen contacting Nonte to get the conversion kits, Ruby's mechanic (Darnell Whitaker?) getting in the car accident with a car full of weapons....

Hi James, Is Antonio Crespi aka Nico Crespi? Nico was a Dallas friend and contact of Loran Hall. Maybe Gerry will know. Dave

The following is an excerpt of a 15 Page document available from the National Archives under RIF #180-10078-10023. It is a letter from a private citizen named Grace B. Vale to the HSCA dated July 10, 1978. BEGIN DOCUMENT EXCERT: PERSONS WHO MAY HAVE INFORMATION AND BEEN OVERLOOKED II. ROY FRANKHOUSER worked as an undercover agent and said he was scheduled to testify before the Warren Commission in 1964 until someone in the Executive Branch quashed his subpoena for "National Security" reasons. Frankhouser said in a 1975 interview he has information about teams organized for the Kennedy assassination by agents who infiltrated groups ranging from right to left, including the Minutemen, the American Nazi Party, and the Socialist Workers Party. Frankhouser said Michael and Ruth Paine were fellow undercover agents whom he met in 1960 when he infiltrated the Socialist Workers Party. The Paines became involved with Lee Harvey Oswald in early 1963. According to Frankhouser, Ruth Paine was Oswald's intelligence "baby sitter" and helped him set up a radical left-wing cover including his one man Fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans. Frankhouser also said the Paines took Oswald to New York and attended an International Scientific meeting where Frankhouser met Oswald. [1] The following independent support gives Frankhouser's story an edge of credibility: a. Many researchers believe George De Mohrenschildt was Oswald's intelligence "baby sitter." George De Mohrenschildt introduced Ruth Paine to Oswald, and after De Mohrenschildt left for Haiti in April, 1963, Ruth Paine was in constant touch with Oswald or his wife until November 22. b. Ruth Paine did go to the northeast in September, 1963, and a Secret Serviceman asked Marina Oswald if she had any knowledge about Oswald's trip to Washington, D. C., one of the cities Ruth Paine visited. [2] Furthermore, in a letter to the manager of The Worker in New York City dated August 31, 1963, Oswald applied for a job as a photographer and said he would be in New York "in a few weeks." [3] c. An International Scientific Organization did meet in New York in September, 1963, when Ruth Paine was in the northeast. Its name was the Comite International de l'Organisation Scientifique, and its chief host was David Rockefeller. It met from September 16 through 20, 1963. Ruth Paine returned to New Orleans on September 20. [1] New Solidarity, November 2O, 1975. Norman Kempster also reported Roy Frankhouser's revelations In the Washington Star. [2] Hearings before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, US Government Printing Office, 1964, XXIII, 387. [3] Hearings, XXII, 169-170. FRANKHOUSER - 2 - The United States affiliate of the Comite International de l'Organisation Scientifique, the host to the International Management Congress, as it was called, was the Council for International Progress in Management. They did not refer to business, they were talking about managing the world. In a welcoming speech the host David Rockefeller said the program had been "carefully planned over a two year period." The official program which was printed in the Don Bell Report of September 13, 1963, said, "Leaders from business, education and government from approximately 100 countries will participate... Special grants from the U. S. State Department, several foundations and corporations will bring approximately 250 of 'tomorrow's leaders' to the Congress, and to unique four week management development courses... The Comite International de l'Organisation Scientifique, sponsor of the Congress, has played a major role in the last 4O years in influencing managerial thinking, methods and practices..." In addition to David Rockefeller, some other members of the Advisory Board were: Henry R. Luce, Editor-in-Chief, Time, Life, Fortune Malcolm Muir, Honorary Chairman, Newsweek, Inc. Frank Stanton, President, Columbia Broadcasting System Harold S. Geneen, President, International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation W. W. Overton, Jr., Trustee, former Chairman, National Industrial Conference Board; Chairman of the Board and President, Texas Bank and Trust Company of Dallas James W. Aston, President, Republic National Bank of Texas [4] (Warren Leslie wrote, "[in Dallas] there are a few men ,whose support in any civic project is an absolute necessity. Among them [are]...James Aston, head of the Republic National Bank... The bankers are present not only because of the personal influence of the men but because in any civic project the bank 'clearing house,' an organization of all Dallas banks, must approve ... Without the banks... the project is dead."[5] Jack Ruby's closest friend, Ralph Paul, who had a financial interest in the Carousel, was alleged to have been a banker associated with the Republic National Bank. [6] [4] Don Bell Reports, September 13, 1963. Cited and reprinted in Wickliffe B. Vennard, Sr., What's wrong in Washington? Forum Publishing Company, 324 Newberry Street, Boston, pp. 84-94. [5] Warren Leslie. Dallas Public and Private, Grossman Publishers, New York, 1964, p. 75. [6] Hearings, XXIII, 3 FRANKHOUSER - 3 - (Patrolman Joe Murphy said the pickup truck stalled near the Book Depository Building on the morning of November 22,1963, was the property of a company doing construction on a bank building. [7] Julie Mercer reported a man carried a rifle case from this stalled truck to the grassy knoll, and said the driver of the truck was Jack Ruby. [8] the next day, November 23, Ruby called Breck Wall In Galveston at the home of Tom McKenna whose son was working on a construction job at the Republic National Bank.)[9] d. Further support for Frankhouser's story is provided by Larry Schmidt who lead a group who infiltrated right wing organizations in Dallas in the year before President Kennedy's assassination. Schmidt wrote the black bordered ad that "welcomed" President Kennedy to Dallas in an insulting manner, and was also the leader of the group that attacked Adlai Stevenson on October 24, 1963. [10] In a letter marked "DESTROY" on every page to SP Larry Jones stationed in Munich where Schmidt had been in charge of public relations for Armed Forces Recreations Centers before his discharge, [11] Schmidt revealed that he and his colleagues lacked the ideological convictions of the groups they were planning to infiltrate. This letter, which as Schmidt boasted to Jones his first letter would be, is on National Indignation Committee stationary. In it Schmidt tells of deal he has made with the National Indignation Committee (NIC) to merge his group called Conservatism, USA (CUSA)with NIC. You must understand I am making this offer with tongue in cheek - we'll get rid of our new 'partners.' ... NIC is ripe for take over exactly as we planned... NIC leaders are not demagogues - are 'guy next door' - nice American guy, sincere' dedicated - not too bright... everything is going our way! I'm calling the shots - and I have painted a lovely picture - best con job yet. "All plans must be in final form by 1 July 63... It is all up to you... You people must learn conservatism immediately. Everyone will read 'Conscience of a Conservative' now... you must know Conservative philosophy..." [12] [7] Commission Document 205, printed in Josiah Thompson, Six Seconds in Dallas, Bernard Geis Associates, New York, 1967, p. 219 [8] Jim Garrison, A heritage of Stone, G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1970, pp. 43-4 [9] Hearings, XIV, 613. [10] Hearings, XXIII, 471-472 [l1] Hearings, V, 495. [l2] Hearings, XVIII, 878. FRANKHOUSER - 4 - Schmidt was apparently an able and Intelligent man. He had worked as editor of the Culver City Citizen, Culver City, California, before serving in the Army.[13] Another person associated with the National Indignation Committee In the pre-assassination period was Morris Tannehill [14], described as appearing highly educated, very well read, with an excellent personality. After the Kennedy assassination he told T. V. Stephens Jack Ruby was "dead either way he goes unless he gets a life sentence because somebody will rub him out," and that it was well known that Ruby had been mixed up with the Communists and had a plane chartered to go to Mexico the day of Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination, but did not go..." On February 18, 1964, Tannehill displayed a business card to Stephens which said he was a sales representative of the Noel R. Chapin Company, 4136 Commerce, Dallas , Texas. [15] In a report dated April 17, 1964, Tannehill advised he was employed at Christian Memorial Foundation, Kansas City, Missouri. [16] A credit bureau report listed him as a former employee of Acme Electric, no address shown. [14] In Dallas Tannehill had lived at 5715 Beckley (the Holiday Lodge Hotel), [14] where two strange deaths took place shortly after the assassination. One of them a 23 year old ex-marine named Jack Eugene Ramsey was found hanging in a room in the Holiday Lodge Motel at 5715 Beckley, on May 8, 1964, and the other was the manager of the motel who died shortly thereafter. [17] (Jack Ruby reportedly made dates for girls who worked in his club in the holiday motel in Irvington, where Ruby had an associate. [18] And Willard DeLacy stated he last saw Ruby on November 19, 1963, at the Holiday Inn Motel. [19] I don't know if these Holiday Motels are the one where Tannehill lived and the murder and other death occurred, however.) e. Michael Paine said he also attended meetings of the National Indignation Committee [20] and of the other right wing and left wing causes, and indicated Oswald did the same. [13] Hearings, XXIII, 471. [14] Hearings, XXVI, 317. [15] Hearings, XXVI, 115. [16] Hearings, XXVI, 318. [17] Penn Jones, The Midlothian Mirror, Midlothian, Texas 76065, January 20, 1972. [18] Hearings, XXIII, 373. [19] Hearings, XXV, 713 [20] Hearings, XI, 400. FRANKHOUSER - 5 - Paine remarked while testifying to the Warren Commission, "I remember stepping over him [Oswald] as he sat in front of the TV,...and thinking to myself for a person who has a business to do he certainly can waste the time. By business 1 mean some kind of activity and keeping track of right-wing causes and left-wing causes or something." [21] Even if Roy Frankhouser is an agent of disinformation, independent sources show there is some truth to his story, and I hope you will thoroughly pursue the above leads. [21] Hearings, II, 412.

Hey James! If my memory serves me, I believe that Lively contacted Jim Garrison about Tom Hill. Hill was VP of the JBS and H.L. Hunt's son-in-law(?) and may have lived in Belmont, Mass for a while. Belmont was headquarters of the JBS. If the memory is still working, I believe that Earl Ruby, Jack's brother called Belmont. Dave

Doug, Glad to see you're still around. Dave

To: W.C. Sullivan Date 1/20/64 From W. A. Branigan Subject: Lee Harvey Oswald, IS –R-CUBA By airtel 1-13-64, Dallas Office reported that on 1-4-64 William James Lowery, Jr. a former security informant of the Dallas Office, reported that he had been contacted by Earl Lively, Jr., of Dallas, Texas. Lowery stated Lively is reported writing an anticommunist book which will stress the Fair Play for Cuba Committee connections of Lee Harvey Oswald. Lively showed Lowery a letter from Herbert Philbrick, former Communist Party member who has testified on behalf of the Government concerning communist activities. According to Lively, Philbrick plans to be in Dallas soon and desires to meet Lowery. Lively further informed Lowery that he desired Lowery’s assistance in writing his book. He stated that Dr. Robert Morris, former counsel to the Senate Internal Security Committee under Senator McCarthy, was assisting him and Lt. George Butler of the Dallas Police Department was also assisting him. Lively added that Lt. George Butler of the Dallas PD was going to try to get any information he could that the FBI turned over to the Dallas Police Department in connection with the Lee Harvey Oswald case. In connection with Lowery mentioned above, ha was a member of and active in the Communist Party on a local and state basis from September 23, 1945 to September 23, 1963. He has also testified for the Government before the Subversive Activities Control Board. Our indices indicate Earl Lively, Jr., probably is identical to Earl William Lively, Jr. In 1962, Office of Special Investigations, Air Force (OSI), furnished us information that Lively was a member of the Air National Guard and at that time was a student of the Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama. He was investigated by OSI since a national agency check revealed he was a subscriber to “The Worker” and the “Midweek Worker,” both communist publications. Individuals interviewed by OSI reported Lively was extremely anticommunist and as being extremely rightist in his political views. They reported in their opinion Lively subscribed to communist publications only to obtain background information on the Communist Party line. They also reported Lively extremely anti-Fidel Castro. OBSERVATIONS: In view of the serious allegation that Lt. Butler of the Dallas Police Department is involved in scheme to furnish FBI data to Earl Lively, Jr., desirable we have SAC, Dallas personally discuss this allegation with the head of the Dallas Police Department and impress upon him the undesirability of Lt. Butler being involved with such a scheme as alleged by our source. Inasmuch as Lowery has testified for the Government before the Subversive Activities Control Board, and is no longer a security informant, we will not jeopardize an important informant situation by discussing his allegation with the head of the Dallas Police Department. ACTION: Attached is a teletype to SAC, Dallas, instructing the SAC, Dallas, to personally contact the head of Dallas Police Department and alert him to the information furnished by Lowery and impress upon him the undesirability of individuals in his department divulging to unauthorized individuals data furnished the Dallas Police Department by the FBI. We are also instructing SAC, Dallas, to request the that the head of the Dallas Police Department determine whether Lt. George Butler of the Dallas Police Department is involved in a scheme to furnish FBI data to Lively as alleged by Lowery.

John, The only Hunter name I know would be Edward Hunter. Hunter is credited with coining the term "brainwashing." Hunter visited Guy Banister in New Orleans in 1962. I think there is quite a bit about Hunter in Dick Russell's book. dave

And the Burma connection. I had some info (but lost it ) that Nestor Sanchez was also in Burma. Here's some notes on two others that were in Burma: Harold Weisberg’s Grand Jury testimony on the History matters website. – Col Castorr. Harold describes Castorr as “political agent who is keeping the Cuban people stirred up.” And “Father McChann tells the Secret Service that Col. Castorr’s actions are consistent with that of an intelligence agent.” Castorr was L. Robert Castorr of Dallas, Texas and Arlington, Virginia (and Maryland) Harold also noted that “Col. Castorr who was a friend of General Walker told a mutual friend that he was involved in a sideline of running guns to Cuba – a profitable sideline – and this is all part of the Odio story.” From Weberman’s Modules Nancy Perrin had furnished reliable information to local police departments in the past and was about as reliable as "junkie hooker snitches" came. Nancy Perrin stated that RUBY smuggled B.A.R.s. In April 1964, the Dallas Police Department checked the personnel at the garages and service stations patronized by RUBY. The Dallas Police discovered that a station attendant, Donnell Darius Whitter, who serviced RUBY'S car had been arrested on November 18, 1963, for possession of two B.A.R.s which had been taken during a burglary of the National Guard Headquarters at Terrell, Texas. Nancy Perrin referred to a man named "Youngblood." Scott Malone wrote: "Another name she mentioned was transcribed by the Warren Commission first as "Ed Brunner" and then as "Eddie Brawner" from Miami. This has lead some to suspect she was referring to Eddie Browder, who was from Miami and was in Texas at the time of the meeting." The CIA: "One Robert Perrin allegedly met with JACK RUBY, Col. L. Robert Castorr and others in Dallas in 1962 to plan a Cuban smuggling operation. Robert Perrin has been accused of being a CIA gun-runner in Spain and Cuba." [CIA 9.18.68 40335-122] And his obit: L. Robert Castorr Association Executive L. Robert Castorr, 92, a retired executive with a number of business groups and a retired colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve, died April 7 after a heart attack at National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda. Mr. Castorr, a resident of Bethesda, was born in Detroit and enlisted in the Army Reserve at age 18 in 1930. He served in the Civilian Conservation Corps for a year, then after further military training and education moved to active duty in 1940. During World War II, he served in North Africa and in the Burma campaign as an infantry combat commander. After the war ended, he briefly served as chief of staff and spokesman for Gen. George C. Marshall at the Pentagon. He left active duty in 1947 but stayed in the reserves until 1973. Mr. Castorr worked as a field manager for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and as national field manager and assistant to the president for the National Federation of Independent Business, handling legislation and public relations, through the 1960s. He later moved to the Small Business Administration, where he was assistant to its president and oversaw its program for retired executives. In later years, he worked for himself as an international trade consultant. Mr. Castorr was an official with the World Conference of Mayors during the 1980s. He served as an officer with the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, the Knights of Malta, and was a member of the Order of St. Stanislas, a philanthropic organization. His first two marriages, to Dorothy Castorr and Gertrude A. Castorr, ended in divorce. Survivors include his wife of 30 years, Dorothy Vasco Castorr of Bethesda; two sons from his second marriage, William Castorr of Battle Creek, Mich., and John Castorr of Dallas; two brothers; five grandchildren; and seven great-grandchildren. http://www.angelfire.com/realm/StStanislas/SrMembers.html And Conein… LUCIEN CONEIN Lucien Emile Conein (born, November 29, 1919), a veteran of the French Foreign Legion, described his military career: "Starting as a recruit I September 1941, was advanced to a Non-Commissioned Officer in 1942, and later chosen for Officer Candidate School February 1943. Graduated and commissioned 2nd Lieutenant February (OSS) on July 26, 1943. Served European Theater of Operations October 1943, to December 1944. Parachuted behind enemy lines in civilian clothes, France, August 1944. Transferred China, Burma, India Theater, February 1945. Assigned German occupation February 1947 to August 1953, as an intelligence officer. 1953 to 1956 served as U.S. Military advisory group, Vietnam, as intelligence and operations officer."

I've been curious (for years) as to the source of funds behind Paulino Sierra's attempt to form a government in exile. Anything new on this? Larry? Dave

Greg/John/James, Delbert Ray was considered a generic "Minuteman." I haven't seen anything that connects Ray to DePugh's organization. Ray was occaisionally seen with a William Seale who was a friend of John Masen. Ray was also a suspect in the 1965(?) firebombing of Penn Jones' newspaper. Dan Smoot was visited in Dallas by both Loran Hall and Joseph Milteer on separate occasions.

A few names that can be found in the files (or could a few years ago): Hunt, Lamar Hunt, H.L. Ferrie, David W. Surrey, Robert - Warren Commission conducted an investigation into the circumstances surrounding "the appearance of the 'Wanted for Treason' handbill on the streets of Dallas 1 to 2 days before President Kennedy's arrival. These handbills bore a reproduction of a front and profile photograph of the President and set forth a series of inflammatory charges against him. Efforts to locate the author and the lithography printer of the handbill at first met with evasive responses and refusals to furnish information. Robert A. Surrey was eventually identified as the author of the handbill. Surrey, a 38-year old printing salesman employed by Johnson Printing Co. of Dallas, Tex. has been closely associated with General [Edwin A.] Walker for several years in his political and business activities." (Warren Commision Report, GPO edition, p. 298) - A Federal Bureau of Investigation monograph, dated June, 1965, on the American Nazi Party (ANP) of George Lincoln Rockwell reports the following concerning the organization of the ANP in Texas: - There are reportedly two ANP groups operating in Dallas, Texas. One, headed by a printing salesman named Robert A. Surrey, is made up of people who do not want their affiliation with the ANP to become publicly known. It is alleged that about 30 persons attend weekly meetings of this group in Surrey's home. The other group, whose meetings reportedly are attended by four persons, is headed by Jerald Thomas Walraven and openly participates in various demonstrations. Surrey is alleged to be the Dallas leader of the ANP, while Walraven is merely a "group commander." (p. 42) - To my knowledge, the Warren Commission was not aware of Surrey's link to the ANP, which may not have developed until after the assassination. - Another indication of Nazi activity in Dallas was reported in the Dallas Morning News for April 16, 1963, section 1, page 5. "Decals of the black Nazi swastika on a flaming red background and the words 'We Are Back' were found plastered on windows of about a dozen downtown Dallas stores [of Jewish merchants] Monday morning." General Walker suggested to the Dallas police that there might be a connection between the swastika incident and the shot fired at him on April 10. (CE 2001, 24 H 42) - On the evening of November 22, 1963, Ken Elliot reported the following to the FBI in New Orleans: - [Elliot] said he had learned from an unrecalled source that General WALKER of Dallas, Texas, has been visiting in the New Orleans area in the past few days and that General Walker is a close associate of a ... radio announcer, CHARLES RAY. He said ... that RAY is considered by him to be a rabid segregationist and also an advocate of GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL. He said he "had heard" from an unrecalled source that ROCKWELL was supposed to be in the New Orleans area in the last few days. (FBI New Orleans Field Office File on the ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY, serial 89-69-56) - A New Orleans FBI report, dated December 31, 1962, on the topic of the American Nazi Party, indicates that a Dan Campbell, an employee of Guy Banister, claimed to be knowledgeable about certain activities of George Lincoln Rockwell and his New Orleans associates. (Serial 105-70374-1749) Banister was an object of interest in the Garrison probe, and has been alleged to have been personally acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald. Dan Campbell identified Colonel Bluford Balter and "Ray J. Leahardt" as New Orleans associates of Rockwell. The New Orleans Field Office file on Lee Harvey Oswald, contains an interview with "Ray James Leahart" dated December 16, 1963, which I have not yet reviewed. The New Orleans Times-Picayune for May 25, 1961, section 1, page 10, reports that a "Ray L. Leahart" was arrested along with George Lincoln Rockwell and nine ANP members from Arlington, Virginia. Among those arrested were Roy James, who would criminally assault Martin Luther King in 1962, and John Patler, who would be convicted of shooting Rockwell himself in 1967. Lively, Earl - To: W.C. Sullivan Date 1/20/64 From W. A. Branigan Subject: Lee Harvey Oswald, IS –R-CUBA By airtel 1-13-64, Dallas Office reported that on 1-4-64 William James Lowery, Jr. a former security informant of the Dallas Office, reported that he had been contacted by Earl Lively, Jr., of Dallas, Texas. Lowery stated Lively is reported writing an anticommunist book which will stress the Fair Play for Cuba Committee connections of Lee Harvey Oswald. Lively showed Lowery a letter from Herbert Philbrick, former Communist Party member who has testified on behalf of the Government concerning communist activities. According to Lively, Philbrick plans to be in Dallas soon and desires to meet Lowery. Lively further informed Lowery that he desired Lowery’s assistance in writing his book. He stated that Dr. Robert Morris, former counsel to the Senate Internal Security Committee under Senator McCarthy, was assisting him and Lt. George Butler of the Dallas Police Department was also assisting him. Lively added that Lt. George Butler of the Dallas PD was going to try to get any information he could that the FBI turned over to the Dallas Police Department in connection with the Lee Harvey Oswald case. In connection with Lowery mentioned above, ha was a member of and active in the Communist Party on a local and state basis from September 23, 1945 to September 23, 1963. He has also testified for the Government before the Subversive Activities Control Board. Our indices indicate Earl Lively, Jr., probably is identical to Earl William Lively, Jr. In 1962, Office of Special Investigations, Air Force (OSI), furnished us information that Lively was a member of the Air National Guard and at that time was a student of the Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama. He was investigated by OSI since a national agency check revealed he was a subscriber to “The Worker” and the “Midweek Worker,” both communist publications. Individuals interviewed by OSI reported Lively was extremely anticommunist and as being extremely rightist in his political views. They reported in their opinion Lively subscribed to communist publications only to obtain background information on the Communist Party line. They also reported Lively extremely anti-Fidel Castro. OBSERVATIONS: In view of the serious allegation that Lt. Butler of the Dallas Police Department is involved in scheme to furnish FBI data to Earl Lively, Jr., desirable we have SAC, Dallas personally discuss this allegation with the head of the Dallas Police Department and impress upon him the undesirability of Lt. Butler being involved with such a scheme as alleged by our source. Inasmuch as Lowery has testified for the Government before the Subversive Activities Control Board, and is no longer a security informant, we will not jeopardize an important informant situation by discussing his allegation with the head of the Dallas Police Department. ACTION: Attached is a teletype to SAC, Dallas, instructing the SAC, Dallas, to personally contact the head of Dallas Police Department and alert him to the information furnished by Lowery and impress upon him the undesirability of individuals in his department divulging to unauthorized individuals data furnished the Dallas Police Department by the FBI. We are also instructing SAC, Dallas, to request the that the head of the Dallas Police Department determine whether Lt. George Butler of the Dallas Police Department is involved in a scheme to furnish FBI data to Lively as alleged by Lowery. Brown, Jack Swift, Wesley - "Q: Do you think that he (Milteer) knows this Oswald personally, or knows anything about him? Somersett: Well, I believe that he does, I believe that if he doesn't know Oswald person, he knows the people in Miami or New Orleans that was doing business with the group which he belonged to. And that is where the infiltration was made into it, into this man's group, it was either Miami or New Orleans. Q: These are two separates groups are they not? They are separated widely in their beliefs so to speak. How do you think they would be coming together? A: From the impression he give me, and what he told me, was that Oswald group was Pro- Castro, and that they were infiltrated, and their leaders, somebody close to them was given money to infiltrate their group, and pay them to kill Kennedy, and that would throw, if anybody did get caught, that would throw the entire case into the laps of the Communist. Q: In other words you say that this Constitutional Party, that has not formed yet, or some party to that..... (BREAKS IN) - Yes I believe what they call the Patriot Organizations over the country, now he talked very briefly about Billy Hargrave who is on the air every now and then, who had raised a lot of money, for the underground, and Swift, and Kenneth Golf [Kenneth Goff], and many others, he even spoke one time, you know uh, uh, Billy Estes had been persecuted very much by the Kennedy Administration. And that he was a man, who, was in a position to raise a lot of money, an that in Texas there were a lot of people who could raise a lot of money, and that they had a good underground in Texas and California. In fact, he says that Illinois is very strong, and he said that Kennedy didn't have a chance, to get away with what he had done, because the Patriots knew that he was in the stages of delivering the country over to the Communists. Walker, Edwin Davis, Roy E. "Somersett: The only man in Dallas that he mentioned that was a good patriot down in Texas, and engineering a lot of activity there was a Mr. Davis a reverend Dr. Davis, a preacher, head of the Klu Klux Klan. He was a man who didn't worry about human life, that he worried about his nation now. I know of Davis for several years. "

JFK, along with King and Khruschev, were considered the great enemies of the far right during the early '60s. Joseph Milteer produced more that a few pamphlets linking all three together - the Kennedy, King, Khruschev (KKK) conspiracy. The "far right" also kept a close eye on the "far left." I believe that this is one of the roles that Guy Banister and Associates played after Banister left the N.O. police. Banister had previously (1957) testified as an expert witness before the LUAC about the infiltraton of the communists into the civil rights movement. A look at Banister's files show that he did indeed track such groups and individuals. If my memory is working today, some of Banitser's files were taken by the Louisiana State Police and some were given to Kent Courtney (good friend of Gen Walker). LHO may have had a small role working for Banister in this capacity.

You didn't happen to spot LHO or the hobos in it did you? Washington Post, 12/9/63 Oswald Picketed Adlai Rally in Dallas, Witnesses Say By Ronnie Dugger DALLAS, Dec.8 -- Curious ironies continue to multiply in the wake of the President's assassination here Nov. 22. It now appears that Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin, attended not only a rally addressed by Gen. Edwin Walker Oct. 23, but also one addressed by United Nations Ambassador Adlai Stevenson Oct. 24. A Dallas woman who sat near Oswald at an Oct. 25 meeting of the Dallas Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union says that when the Stevenson meeting of the night before was being discussed, Oswald nodded his head and said, "I was there." Oswald said this in an aside to Michael Paine, who had brought him to the meeting, the woman clearly recalled. Oswald's wife and children lived with Paine's estranged wife in Irving, a Dallas suburb. Larrie Schmidt, Dallas insurance salesman was also at the Stevenson meeting, leading a group of pickets against Stevenson. Yesterday Bernard Weissman, who placed an anti-Kennedy advertisement in the Dallas News on the morning of the assassination, told a newsman in Mt. Vernon, N.Y., that Schmidt telephoned him after the meeting at which Stevenson was spat upon, and asked Weissman to come to Dallas to help out in the aftermath. Schmidt acknowledges that, in advance of the Stevenson speech, he telephoned "a friend of mine in a local university" and asked if he could help find people to demonstrate against the United Nations. The friend arrived with 14 young pickets, and a "peaceful picketing" was organized, Schmidt said. The persons who spat on Stevenson and struck him with a picket sign had nothing to do with his well-dressed and orderly group, Schmidt said today. "We deplore and certainly do not condone the actions of those people," Schmidt says. At the A.C.L.U. meeting on Oct. 25, Oswald rose during the open discussion and remarked that he had attended the Walker speech two nights before and had observed anti-Semitic and anti-Catholic symptoms there. A man who attended the A.C.L.U. meeting and who sat beside Oswald, has been located and corroborates other recollections about Oswald's remarks there. This source confirms that Oswald said in the aside that he had attended the Stevenson rally. A Dallas businesswoman, who refused to be identified, said she believes she saw Oswald picketing at the scene of the Stevenson speech. "He was the only one who did a military type turn. This called my attention to him," she said. She believed Oswald's group picketed and left before the disturbance broke out against Stevenson. A second Dallas woman, a housewife, said: "I believe he was there, and he was carrying a picket sign in the lobby." Neither the businesswoman nor the housewife remembered what kinds of signs were carried by the group led by the man they now believe was Oswald.

If you ever see I camp roster, would you let me know? I've been interested in the MDC and this camp for a while. Thanks, Steve Thomas Will do Steve.

Here's what Gurvich had to say: 14 February 1967 To: Jim Garrison District Attorney From: William Gurich Investigator Subj: SEIZUE OF EXPOSIVES - LACOMBE, LOUISIANA AUGUST 1963 I have on this date read the January 21, 1967 interview between CARLOS QUIROGA and yorself. In reading this I noticed your interest in arms, ammunition, and explosives used by Cuban trainees at a training camp on the North side of Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans. The following information was given to you orally but not in a formal manner therefore I am repeating these facts relative to the seizure of explosives in the approximate area of the Cuban training camp. In August 1963, in Lacombe, Louisiana, a large quantity of dynamite and bomb casings were seized on the property of William J. McLaney. It is assumed the FBI conducted this. Others involved were: VICTOR DOMINADOR ESPINOSA HERNANDEZ CARLOS EDUARDO HERNANDEZ SANCHEZ JOHN KOCK GENE ACELO PDEROS AMORES MIGUEL ALVAREZ JIMENEZ ANTONIO SOTO VASQUEZ SAM BENTON BYRON CHIVERTON RICH LAUCHLI (OR LUCHLI) EARL J. WASEM, JR. RALPH FOLKERTS AMORES once reported an airstrip 40 miles west of New Orleans where aircraft - B25's or B26's were kept. This report was to a Federal Agency. CHIVERTON was possibly co-owner of the LACOMBE property and resided at 4207 Fountainebleu Drive, New Orleans. LAUCHLI (or LUCHLI) was proprietir of LAXCO MACHINE SHOP, which apparently was in COLLINSVILLE, ILLINOIS. McLANEY may be the same one who had extensive gambling interests in HAVANA, CUBA, prior to the CASTRO administration. He was evicted from CUBA by CASTRO and it is reasonable to assume he suffered considerable financial losses. In your interview with QUIROGA he mentioned using U-HAUL trailers. A U-HAUL trailer was used to transport these explosives ( approximately 2500 pounds) by some of the above mentioned LATINS. The license of this trailer was FLORIDA 7E-668 and possibly came from FLORIDA (JACKSONVILLE) through RALPH FOKERTS. Subsequent to this I was informed this seizure was made in the first block of "PONTCHARTRAIN" in BIG BRANCH, LOUISIANA. This community is immediately wet of LACOMBE. The building from which the explosives were seized was described as a residence setting about 100 yards back on the Wesy side of the road or street and had a large garage. Two aerial photo- graphy missions in the COVINGTON-BIG BRANCH-LACOMBE area failed to disclose a building of acceptable comarison. Due to the abunance of tall pine trees a ground survery would be perhaps more useful. Your attention is invited to reports of ADA ALVIN OSTER relative to an arms cache in this area. His reports cover arms but not explosives but does refer to "PONTCHARTRAIN" STREET. I will attempt to develope more information from my contacts in order to secure the exact location. WHG:wg And Alcock: FEBRUARY 5, 1967 TO: JIM GARRSION, DISTRICT ATTORNEY FROM: JIM ALCOCK, ASSISTANT DISCTRICT ATTORNEY RE: ANGEL VEGA At 10:00 PM on January 31, 1967, CHARLES JONAU and I spoke to ANGEL VEGA. This meeting, arranged by LAUREANO BATISTA, Took place at the headquarters of the Christian Democratic Movement located at 1732 N.W. 7th Street, Miami, Florida…. ANGEL VEGA is a slightly built Cuban male appearing to be in his late twenties. He was one of the twenty Cubans who trained at a camp in the New Orleans area. VEGA arrived at eth camp sometime near the middle or end of June, 1963. When he arrived, there were only four or five others at the camp site. The house and grounds where they stayed were completely run down, giving the appearance they had not been inhabited for quite a while. Their first task was to refurbish the house and its conveniences. All personnel stayed in the house which consisted of three rooms, a kitchen and two baths. In addition to this, there was a screened porch on the front and back of the house. The grounds had a swimming pool which was constantly fed by an underground spring. Also, there was a stream or bayou running through the property. Within sight of the property was another house. The camp was served by a dirt road which VEGA recalls was never used by vehicular traffic during his entire stay at the camp. ANGEL VEGA is positive he could find this camp site today, and would be willing to come to New Orleans on a weekend for that purpose. Training at the camp was principally limited to a physical fitness program. Daily exercises were taken along with swimming lessons. The men at the camp also practiced fording the stream that ran through the property. At no time did the men stray farther than about 200 yards from the house. No shooting whatsoever took place at the camp. They had two or three old Springfield rifles and M-1 carbine. These weapons were never fired. The M-1 carbine was used to show the men how to disassemble and assemble the weapon. During the course of many of the exercises, the men would carry small logs to simulate the weight of a weapon. Also, these logs were used in mock hand-to-hand combat training. About two days before the cache of explosives was found at the other camp, ANGEL VEGA and two other camp members left for Miami with the Castro agent, FERNANDO FERNANDEZ. Shortly thereafter all Cubans at the camp returned to Miami. This was about August 1, 1963. Therefore, the camp was in operation for about five or six weeks. While at the camp, ANGEL heard rifle shots and explosions from the direction of the other camp. However, at no time did VEGA and his fellow Cubans know of the existence of the other camp. This came to their knowledge only after the explosives were found. As ANGEL recalls, the camp site was owned by two American males in their fifties or sixties. He feels they were in the insurance business. All contacts with them were made by RICARDO (DICKEY) DAVIS. They came to the camp occasionally to see if the men needed any food. DAVIS came to the camp about 8 to 10 time, mostly bringing food when he came. On one occasion, he brought his wife and he did some target shooting with a 22 caliber pistol. ANGEL VEGA never heard the name of SERGIO ARCACHA SMITH or LINDBERGH mentioned and never saw any other Americans at the camp with the exception of the two previously mentioned. Angel remembers the following men to have been at the camp with him: VICTOR PANEQUE 2ND in Command FIDEL ZALDIVAR 1st in Command ……PERIU VICTORIA MIGUEL CARBALLIDO HENRY INFANTE RAUL FANTONE FERNANDO FERNANDEZ SERGIO (NOT ARCACHA SMITH) As you can see, ANGEL could only remember the first name of one man and only the last name of another. LAUREANO BATISTA, however, is still trying to locate a complete camp roster for us. He is also trying to locate the names if the Americans who owned the camp. If he is successful, he has promised to mail the information to me in New Orleans. I feel that ANGEL VEGA was completely candid and cooperative throughout the interview. However, as far as the movement and its key personnel are concerned, we should expect some hedging. JIM ALCOCK