Derek Thibeault

With every lie these grifters were telling also had some truth in it. I think Casolaro and this filmmaker were trying to figure out what the truth parts were

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True basically he was saying nothing is real or what you think it is. So what is real?

I just finished this series - it was stunning. First I heard of this case, but when that reporter gave that story of Nichols showing her multiple Zapruder films my head snapped around. She said it with 100% confidence. It was chilling, and I didn't expect it. Are there multiple copies out there somewhere. How real did the one she described look. I mean we hear stories of the limo slowing down and removed or changed frames. If anything was different, the public would never see the real one because it would expose the real murder. The Octopus is tied into everything. The same people are connected to a lot of bad things. Bush is implicated quite highly. Nichols may still be alive.

On 1/13/2023 at 11:48 AM, Joe Bauer said:

Very tough "bullseye" shot when your target is 80 yards away and moving away from you no matter at 11 mph or 3. Shooter must have been very skilled, especially using one of the cheapest rifles around and with a defective scope to boot.

If the Dealey Plaza photo is not Joseph Milteer it is pretty damn close imo.

Same glasses. Milteer seemed to like open collared, light colored shirts as does the Dealey Plaza man. Same square jaw, ears right. The expression the Dealey Plaza man is shooting toward JFK is one of absolute hate. Which you would expect from Milteer.

I too think Milteer's description is quite specific. Chillingly so. A patsy would be picked up in an hour? I always thought the Miami DP were very responsible with sharing this threat with the national intel people. Not sure where I read this however.

Talk about suspicious Dealey Plaza men look-a-likes? Have you seen the "Rip Robertson" comparison photos? Tell us those don't match up exactly.

How in the world did none of our police agencies never find one person connected to James Earl Ray?

The man escapes state prison and is not caught? Ray was a low level crime guy. Uneducated. No money.

He ends up being caught in an international airport looking like a businessman and wearing a suit which was not his style, ever.

He even resembles D.B. Cooper!

Ray had a fake passport? Who made that? Money on him? Ray was incapable of all this on his own. This was much more sophisticated than his MO.

Ray was very much a backwoods hillbilly "Thunder Road" moonshine runner type character.

Ray was set up to do this crime by someone with big time money and connections.

Impossible that not one of our best intel agencies could ever find even one Ray enabler.

 

 

 

What amazes me, that after the assassination so many of the crowd people take off and no one ever identified most. Why didn't all of them make a statement or reach out - such a big case get their few minutes? A lot directly on the plaza did, but what about all the ones just before it. Can they all be identified? I always thought this was Milteer, but I had a copy of Crossfire for a long time.

thats not good

Is the Dale Myers book a good reading of the Tippit murder?

Love watching these guys. Looking forward to watching this. They really push out some great info about the assassination along with some other very interesting stories. Like Out of the Blank this is good watching.

I have talked about her on here as well and she just seemed to fade away - I believe she may have moved, but can no one find out when she passed away? Curious, what did she tell her kids. Where are they? Collateral research needs to be done, did she remarry - what did she tell that person, etc... Are any people from that neighborhood still alive?

49 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Perhaps their motive is to embarrass the Biden administration for colluding in the 59-year CIA cover up.

But, nevertheless, I'm thrilled to see the truth being told by people in the mainstream media.

Biden should be embarrassed.

James DiEugenio didn't overplay his hand-- simply calling attention to the blank pages, etc.

My question.  Did Watters edit out more extensive footage of DiEugenio discussing the CIA's involvement in the assassination?

agreed

I am shocked,  I hate this guy and his show, and yet he takes this on. Why is FOX jumping on this. I always thought most people leaned Dem or anti-political party on this issue. Jim did a great job because this will get to a lot of people. Why why why? I guess it's good if anyone is talking about it. But where were they 4 years ago?

So when Trump released the records but did not release all of them like he said he would, did Tucker do a segment bashing Trump and/or the CIA? I don't remember - my guess is no, but I don't remember. So when I turned to him just to see what he was saying, I was shocked he was talking about it.

The NBC thing was interesting. I know the media, especially ABC and Fox, have played plenty of programs pro WC - but NBC also being part of it. Ridiculous that they still feel the need all these years to not have a free and open discussion on it. I would still love to see a docuseries on exploring the different parts of the case. The Hunt for Oswald garbage on the history channel was awful. We need more people to see this from our point of view, and even in the community there are different view points. I think the podcast Out of the Blank has been doing a tremendous job talking to people. I hope Biden does the right thing, but my hopes are not up.

"Major Break" could be overdramatic. I hope it's something, but have gotten my hopes up before.

I went there as a kid for a field trip, since I live in NH. I never hear of any conferences up here. I wish. I saw a speaker at a t a college up here once, can't remember who it was, thought it was Robert Groden, but it was 30 years ago. The JFK Library in Boston is an amazing building that could hold a conference. I expect they want to celebrate his life not rehash his death, but it's a great building, and it could bring in some money. I used to be a member, but it's been awhile since I have been there.

great resource

Curious what you think

4 minutes ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said:

Joseph could be correct if the reporters mixed up stories 

About LHO's funeral I have not seen this mentioned by his brother Robert, neither by Marina.

I don't know if Marguerite mentioned it, I'm pretty sure she would have noticed.

They were the only relatives present I believe.

The name itself doesn't ring a bell nowhere, strange...

I'm gonna double check the newspapers, perhaps there is a lead in those

 

 

 

 

 

 

that makes more sense

Great documents - I think Joseph is talking about Tippit's funeral - but you are talking about Oswald's. Who was the Funeral Director? I assume the man who was in charge has passed, but is the company still in business? Some funeral homes will keep records - not sure if they will keep records of flowers. Any notes on the flowers themselves? I have to assume this could also be a complete nonissue. But it's interesting. Sure it wasn't Judith Baker - I mean, she did have a torrid affair with him.

That's awful.

William Sullivan the only connection to the JFK murder in my state of NH. Interesting death. Mistaken for a deer.

We are really in the weeds when we are debating if those were flowers or a lambchop puppet. I see it now the next parody book - "Did Shari Lewis kill JFK?"

Lambchop was the best! The thing I did like about the Umbrella Man film is the obsessiveness of the main character, like Jim Garrison in JFK, this case can take you down rabbit holes and make you crazy if you let it. I started obsessing when I was about 10 and 40 years later, I am still. It can consume you, and I think the film did a good job of showing that. Too bad it couldn't make the mainstream, if I didn't read about this case I would have never heard of it.

On 9/17/2017 at 11:53 AM, Joe Bauer said:

Kirk, If someone like Jesse Ventura somehow got elected president...and he "really" started to shake things up too much - including the secret government -  I think you might see something occur.

 

Did you ever see the Umbrella Man film. Fascinating, although poorly acted. I can't understand why those two just sat there while everyone else was moving. To me that is the biggest giveaway.

On 9/3/2022 at 12:58 AM, David Lifton said:

I've said this before, and its worth saying again: yes, the imo stopped.

I interviewed the Newmans in 1971 (or 1972(.

But the best evidence  can be found in the Friday evening edition of the Dallas Times Herald,  O ne or more of the cycle escort said it stopped; and as researcher Tyler Newcomb pointed out years ago, I believe you can actually see one of the DPD cyclists with his foot down and firmly on the pavement. I always thought that Vince Palamara's tabulation of "car stop" witnesses was excellent.  DSL

Who are the 4 cyclists? Did they testify before the WC? If not do we have their testimony? Have they passed away?

2 hours ago, Kathy Beckett said:

Two Men in Dallas, thanks to Vince Palamara.

 

I love Mark Lane but boy he lays it on thick.