Derek Thibeault

this is gold - even from a Steelers fan (Pats fan). Thanks for posting.

2 hours ago, Robbie Robertson said:

coming from someone who spoke with people in the WHO and CDC and the NIH and also the other side of doctors against mandates 
 

I’ve had two vaccine lawyers on my show both different views one pro mandates and the other who talked about side effects and fighting for there rights to sue but you cant sue the Covid vaccine manufacturer.

 

it’s a big mess and long story short YouTube recently let you talk about vaccine side effects only if it’s your experience. When they called the side effects misinformation or disinformation they didn’t think about the people who were trying to explain their experience and asking for money to help since the compensation program for Covid vaccine is very bad not a single suit has been paid yet. The people who suffer from a injury from the shot took to the site gofundme and got some help but just a long process.
 

I wouldn’t speak with a person on my show about it because you’ll get labeled anti vax. Look at the new BBC documentary called unvaccinated they chopped interviews from the guests and blended stats to make it ridiculous. I’ve spoke with Norman Fenton worked with Amanda fry who made that documentary and the bbc has been lit up for the way they blended data.
 

Despite where you stand on Covid things like public health and personal health are some of the darkest roads in our system 

I'm certainly not anti-vax, but I hate YouTube making a decision to censor certain things, all info should be available and let people make up their own minds. There is always been controversial health info, weight loss being one as an example, what is true and what is not? People have to do their research.

22 minutes ago, Robbie Robertson said:

Most of my Covid episodes aren’t on YouTube since their guidelines flag things but they are pretty popular in today’s time on Spotify 

 

john Potash is a upcoming episode and we couldn’t talk about his new film “shots” about the pandemic but we talked about the cia and usage of drugs 

YouTube is killing free speech - WTH?

41 minutes ago, Gerry Down said:

It will be an interesting analytic to see how many viewers you get for Posner talking about the JFK assassination vs talking about big pharma. I'd say most JFK researchers would have no interest listening to Posner on big pharma. So it would prob be your other wider audience that would be more interested in that.

I think with JFK researchers - they don't trust Posner so even if he is right, and it's good reporting, they would be skeptical. Big Pharma I am sure can be tied to deep state and I think JFK researchers would care because it's destroying the country. Just not Posner being that vessel to tell the story. He has a book I think on Motown I was tempted to read but couldn't bring myself to do it even though I am a Motown fan, so I have that prejudice.

1 hour ago, Robbie Robertson said:

One thing I wanted to ask him is when he talks about his pharma book as soon as he gets really into the corruption they cut him off and move on.

I went to school for Chemical Dependency and close to 100,000 deaths alone last year from ages 19-49 from opioids and not a news station talking about it until recently but they attack Walmart not the way we prescribe medication so easy in the United States 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/20211117.htm
 

two countries in the world that advertises pharmaceuticals and that’s New Zealand and the United States. Everyone else thinks it’s weird 

As a lawmaker in my city - it's the one thing I worry about most, how to get these opioid deaths down and get people the help they need. I hate seeing the number go up. I hate the commercials. The money is the issue. Always follow the money.

1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said:

Craig Roger "was released from duty because he kept injuring himself." ?

How long did Craig serve in the army total? 1 year, 2, 3?

That's not a brief time. The army waited 1 to 3 years before discharging him?

Was he self-injured half the time? Once a month?

The quote from Craig's daughter above could be interpreted very negatively regards Craig's over-all mental or physical health history. Or, with more details maybe not?

From what I remember reading of Craig he had such a tough and neglected early childhood ( in some northern Midwest state ) he ran away from whatever home situation he was in at some incredibly young age. Like 11 or 12? 

Rode trains? Found work on farms? On his own starting at that young age?

Craig was so thin even in photos of him as a sheriff, that my guess is that he was at times starving as a young man or even a child. Poor as can be.

But taking on the wide open world at the age of 11 or 12 alone, and somehow surviving while working hard physical jobs outdoors ( the winters are long and brutal in the Northern Midwest states ) and then trying to join the army while underage and doing so ... is a remarkable show of inner strength and character.

Just trying to get a feel for the true character and make up of Roger Craig the man.

A man who chose to speak out more than any other Dallas area policeman ( maybe the only one? ) about what he witnessed being right in Dealey Plaza and on the 6th floor of the TXSBD building minutes after JFK was killed there.

And with claims that if true, revealed shockingly contrary information other than what the DPD was reporting to the media or not reporting at all.

In so doing and later working for outside researchers investigating the case, he was literally committing suicide albeit a long drawn out over 12 years one.

Whether Craig had some deeply scaring emotional issues starting from early childhood and that manifested themselves in his later adult life through his extremely risky decision to dangerously buck the good ole boy Dallas police and sheriff club and state publicly things that threatened their credibility and integrity standing to perhaps fill some self-image damaged hole and be somebody, or he just happened to have a heroic nature beyond those other officers...is a question I have pondered.

I'm guessing Craig wasn't your typical racist deep South raised good-ole-boy that made up much of Southern City police forces in the 1950's and 60's.

He was born and raised in Northern states which typically were not of that mind set to the degree that South of the Mason Dixon line men were. 

Imo Craig saw and heard things in his insider law enforcement position starting from 11,22,1963 that in the least revealed the reality that the great majority of Dallas police and Sheriff personnel hated JFK with a passion for his perceived stance on race issues and how this hatred may have influenced certain aspects of their behavior in the aftermath of 11,22,1963.

 

 

 

Yeah, my thoughts are most witness have some truths, others flat out lie and others make honest mistakes based on poor memory or just the heightened sense of the events unfolding. Very easy to mistake seeing LHO. The brain plays tricks. But I believe in a lot of his story, the stuff about Buddy Walther, the whole conduct of the Dallas Police force. If he had some mental challenges, surely all of this would certainly raise whatever issues he had. But I do believe he was honest, and his story is true in his mind. Maybe he wanted to see what he says he saw, or maybe he really saw it all. I think he is one of the many victims in this case. But without hard evidence who knows, I certainly want to believe him, I think going against the cops in this situation was admirable, that police force was brutal.

Back to Posner, not sure if Robbie has read or will read Case Closed but I would also read founding father Harold Weisberg's Case Open the rebuttal to Posner's book.

Never seen this before, but I am going to read it, always thought Roger Craig was one of the unsung heroes of this case and he suffered for it.

I agree with Robbie. He is the creator of the content, he should have the right to build the brand by getting clicks. I assumed his comment was a sarcastic joke. It probably did look like his changing was due to DVP, but that's just probably when he realized it wasn't directing to his site. I think we should assume good intentions. And like he said, just ask him what he meant - he cleared it up.

36 minutes ago, Kathy Beckett said:

Some of the people mentioned on these were members here, if you would like to look up what they posted in the past. I don't know if tosh was mentioned, but he is a member.  Just go up to the search box, put in the person's name, and use the droplist to find "member:.  By the way we have tons of wonderful discussions from way back on numerus subjects--worth looking up.

Dan Marvin was a member. Doug Weldon was a member. Judyth Baker was a member. There is a huge thread where she was discussed:

 

Quite the post - many names I don't see anymore.

3 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:

I don't know if there is a way to measure who is prominent or who is not. 

But there is an old guard, most of whom are now deceased. Still, Cyril Wecht, Paul Hoch, Tink Thompson and Peter Dale Scott remain. And I would add Gary Murr to this list. 

And there is a best-selling author group, which would include Lifton and Groden. 

And there is a widely published author group, which would include Walt Brown, Larry Hancock, LaMar Waldron, Joan Mellen, Jim D, James Fetzer, John Newman and Doug Horne.

And there is a group of prominent doctors, which would include Gary Aguilar, David Mantik, and Randy Robertson. 

And there's a group of professional journalists, such as Anthony Summers, Jeff Morley, David Talbot, and Russ Baker...

And there are those with a strong presence on the internet, such as Rex Bradford, John Simkin, Anthony Marsh, Mike Griffith, and Robin Unger...

And there are those who've run conventions...like Debra Conway and Judyth Baker...

 

My point is that when these folk get together--and I have been in the company of almost all these people--the conversation is much different than the discussions on this forum. With few exceptions, they do not follow this or any other forum. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:

I don't know if there is a way to measure who is prominent or who is not. 

But there is an old guard, most of whom are now deceased. Still, Cyril Wecht, Paul Hoch, Tink Thompson and Peter Dale Scott remain. And I would add Gary Murr to this list. 

And there is a best-selling author group, which would include Lifton and Groden. 

And there is a widely published author group, which would include Walt Brown, Larry Hancock, LaMar Waldron, Joan Mellen, Jim D, James Fetzer, John Newman and Doug Horne.

And there is a group of prominent doctors, which would include Gary Aguilar, David Mantik, and Randy Robertson. 

And there's a group of professional journalists, such as Anthony Summers, Jeff Morley, David Talbot, and Russ Baker...

And there are those with a strong presence on the internet, such as Rex Bradford, John Simkin, Anthony Marsh, Mike Griffith, and Robin Unger...

And there are those who've run conventions...like Debra Conway and Judyth Baker...

 

My point is that when these folk get together--and I have been in the company of almost all these people--the conversation is much different than the discussions on this forum. With few exceptions, they do not follow this or any other forum. 

 

 

good list!

2 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

Josiah Thompson and David Lifton are members of this forum. Personally, I would love to see contributions here from Gary Aguilar, Steve Barber and Dave Reitzes, and especially Greg Parker. 

For some reason, I though Gary Aguilar was, too.

2 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

Oliver Stone is a busy man. I doubt he reads any of the forums or keeps up with new discoveries re the assassination beyond checking in with Jim D from time to time. 

Many of the most prominent members of the research community are of a similar mindset. Avoid the internet at all costs. I have met and dined with and even spent the night at the house of some of the big names in CT land, and they will call me up to ask me a question about something that I discuss in detail on my website. And what I say will come as a surprise. They know I know something about whatever it is they are calling me about, but have never taken the time to read my website or watch my videos. 

There's a bubble in CT land much as there's a bubble in this country. While "prayer man" is a big deal on this and other forums, I assure you that if you get together the 10 most prominent CTs in the media, and the 10 most prominent CTs who speak at conferences, "prayer man" will barely come up. The talk will be about John Newman's new discovery or an upcoming mock trial or Gary Aguilar's rebuttal to Lucien Haag's article in some obscure forensic publication. It's pretty much a closed loop. And there's a reason for this...

People like me. This forum was founded by John Simkin, who went out of his way to invite some of the most prominent writers and personalities in JFK land to the forum. He allowed others to join, if they behaved themselves. But many didn't. Most prominent people have prominent egos and this leads to their reluctance to engage on a level playing field. Similarly, newbie know-nothings are all too anxious to confront or insult someone more prominent than themselves so they can make their bones and brag about how they "owned" so and so. I, myself, have some remorse over confronting Mark Lane over something. I suspect he left the forum as a result. But I don't feel too bad about it. If it wasn't me it would have been someone else. 

This is a bummer post. I figure Oliver Stone is more like a vessel of the research community to help use his Hollywood power to get the work of these great researchers out there, and he has a full time job as moviemaker, book writer, etc... Most of the researchers that are big I have seen in this forum, who is missing besides the people who have passed? Robert Groden, Josiah Thompson, John Barbour, John Newman, Jim Douglass, Lisa Pease, David Lifton? Who would we consider top ten? I think Jim has to be in that mix, Joe McBride?

44 minutes ago, Robbie Robertson said:

I originally reached out about his pharmacy book when I was gonna have Robert Kennedy on and after two months of diving into the Assassination I just said I don’t think I could not bring it up 

Did you get Kennedy?

1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said:

I think JVB went through some deeper emotional issues later in life.

Or ones she may have always had but never dealt with?

Like half the country!

I think perhaps acquiring some celebrity through her Lee Harvey Oswald claims was an antidote to her perhaps unfulfilled and needing existence?

Just guesses. 

No doubt that she is a very intelligent person. She speaks well in public.

JVB claims she kept a gift Lee Oswald once gave her. She had shown this to her beloved sister "Debbie."

JVB also claims she revealed her Oswald love affair to this sister well before she went public with it.

This sister has never once publicly contradicted nor stated anything negative, dismissive or disbelieving about JVB and her LHO love story.

And who would know JVB better than anyone besides her close bond sister?

Kids are almost always kept in the dark when it comes to their parent's secrets.

I was once a "Facebook Friend" of hers, but too many posts and I kind of had enough. She had closed her friends list at one point because I think she was getting thrashed and only want real friends or people that weren't going to be nasty (can't blame her). I unfriended her just because it was just too many postings and I had no clue what was real and what wasn't. She is fascinating, I will give her that.

Haven't watched it yet - wonder if he has changed any of his views. Was his MLK book also lone nut? Should be interesting. I did give him my money years ago.

23 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

As crazy as many label Judyth Vary Baker to be...I'm sorry, but imo there is enough in her New Orleans residency recounting to not totally dismiss several elements of her Lee Oswald knowing and maybe even sexual interaction story.

Baker was in New Orleans at the exact same time as Lee.

Lee often did go to the post office where she says she first saw him. Lee was always writing letters and receiving them as well and always through P.O. boxes.

Lee did look clean cut as she described upon her first seeing him.

Baker was in some way involved with Tulane University and cancer research and very easily could have met Alton Oschner if even for a few seconds long introduction. She did know or at least knew of Dr. Mary Sherman.

David Ferry was truly involved in cancer research himself. He ran a rat lab right out of his funky apartment. Did Baker actually visit there? Could her description of it's layout and interior and even location be more detailed than anything previously published?

Baker just happened to be hired by the Reily Coffee company on the same day as Lee Oswald? True or not? Just coincidence? Reily's being a known cover job providing entity for you know who. Baker wondered why she was given a secretarial position there when she had absolutely no experience with those kinds of duties.

Same with Oswald cleaning and greasing coffee grinding machines.

Baker and Oswald both took buses everywhere. Baker lived on the same bus line and took the same bus to and from Reily's daily as Oswald did? And at the same times?

In the least, she and Lee were mere feet from each other on those months of bus rides and bus stop waiting.

Oswald abused his duties at Reilys. Cleaning mechanical coffee grinding machines was not his thing. He would stay out at lunch and hang out at the next door parking garage reading gun magazines.

His supervisor at Reily's said he acted like he could care less about his job there.

Oswald is eventually fired because of his job negligence but also reportedly partly because of his Pro-Cuba leaflet passing downtown. Which by the way he was paid to do.

Judyth Baker is fired from her position at Reilys also just days later?

She says because of her close association with Lee.

Many other things JVB has recounted regards LHO and New Orleans cannot be totally debunked as false or mere coincidence imo.

Baker was a brilliant high school student. No debate there. Her Florida hometown newspaper articles detailed her accomplishments at that time.

Baker never once lied or exaggerated anything about her fiance while she was living in New Orleans. She has written respectfully of him always.

Judyth never claimed any other dalliances with anyone except LHO.

She wasn't a loose sex starved flirt. She was intellectually driven.  She claims only two sexual relationships in her young life. That's not many.

Off topic I know. However, the TMWKK piece on JVB may sound "out there" to many and not worthy of filming and showing. She is obviously eccentric and has stated many questionable things. I have encountered many people in my life like her. Eccentric and outspoken but underneath those quirks...extremely intelligent. Some call this off-centered behavior bohemian.

E. Howard Hunt made his tape recorded near death JFK "Big Event" confessional years after the TMWKK series came out.

Yet in this he affirms some aspects of TMWKK episode of "The Guilty Men " in placing LBJ at the head of the conspiracy in partnership with Cord Meyer.

Again, just more smoke to add to the fire search truth.

 

When people say she has been debunked, in what way? I have heard all the things you mentioned, so that's why I ask. He is she trying to make things messier, and she just knew him a bit. Trying to muddy the waters. Or were they more involved? Probably never know.

"Uncovered it's head warlock" - I let out a laugh on that. I know she has been dubious, but why did Turner waste an episode on her? She goes to conventions and tries to be part of the witness community.

When I first saw it, I loved it. It was in connection with me reading Henry Hurt's Reasonable Doubt. The first series scared the heck out of me. The Badge Man. I forgot all about Joseph Milteer. I have seen it since including the later ones, and it's obviously flawed partly because new information was discovered after, but I give Turner a lot of credit, that was an ambitious series and groundbreaking before Stone's film. So I don't have a ton of info on Ms. Baker and I hated that episode, but is she completely a fraud? Did she know Oswald at all? If she is a fraud it's people like her mucking up the waters.

Find his family, see if they have any evidence, writings, physical evidence, stories....

4 hours ago, Vince Palamara said:

Awesome! I am being interviewed today.

Yes, this whole post was a bummer, but young ones like Robbie keeping it alive is helpful. Everyone on here needs to keep going with it. Keep pushing, it's too important not to.

On 8/23/2022 at 1:55 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Welcome Andrew.

Again, almost everything of value on Kilgallen that Shaw uses comes from Sara Jordan's milestone article.

https://www.midtod.com/dorothy.html

Ok just read, I knew the story before, but this is a well put together article. I don't have to read the Shaw book, which I was going to. I had read Mary's Mosaic previously, thought it was ok. The discrepancies make sense.

What do people think of this guy? He is definitely someone who speaks a lot, and I think he may have changed his story a couple of times. If I remember correctly he was brought in to the police station as well that day. Like Ruth Paine, not sure this guy is on the level but someone of you may have talked to him or know him.

On 3/31/2022 at 1:31 PM, James DiEugenio said:

But Bob:

Oliver had to do all of these interviews with alternative outlets.

Because he knew the MSM was not going to acknowledge the film at all, or if they did it would be in a disdainful way e.g. Max Boot, and Tim Weiner.

You Tube is becoming very problematic in this regard.  Just who is the You Tube Community? Does this mean if Dave Reitzes gets together with Steve Roe and complains to them that this somehow means the content is inappropriate?  That is really kind of sick.  Oliver did not say anything inappropriate in that interview..

But this is why people are going to Rumble and Bitchute.

Would Oliver do the Out of the Blank podcast with Robbie?