Calvin Ye

3 minutes ago, Richard Booth said:

I find that hard to believe, but I will look at the book for context so I can discern the possible motives of the person saying it and ascertain what level of knowledge they would have had to be in a position to know that, or merely to have suspected that. Based on what I know about Harvey and Hoover, they hated each other and it seems that Harvey never did anything that benefitted the FBI.

https://archive.org/details/secrethistoryofc0000tren_u6a6/page/76/mode/2up?q=hoover

27 minutes ago, Richard Booth said:

If you absorb all of the public material and documents concerning William K. Harvey, and J. Edgar Hoover, it becomes quickly apparent that these two men were like vinegar and water. Harvey had no respect for rules, he was fat, he got drunk on the job, and he didn't give two shits about authority or social ranking. Meanwhile, Hoover was the opposite.

If you look at the FBI file on William K. Harvey you will find a few really bitchy memos from Hoover and Hoover's underlings vociferously complaining about William K. Harvey's lack of appropriate respect for FBI agents. Essentially, Hoover and his people sent "nasty-grams" to Harvey's superiors trying to get him fired. They even wrote that they refused to work with Harvey as a liaison to the FBI due to his behavior. It had to be smoothed over with Harvey's superiors taking his side, saying that Harvey had nothing but professional things to say and an openness to working for the FBI.

Hoover hated the CIA. He hated Harvey. If they conspired on anything it had to be after the fact and out of necessity. 

Check out Harvey's FOIA FBI file to examine the humorous catty memos the FBI sent complaining about Harvey. 

Ultimately, though, Hoover was compromised arvey's lack of appropriate respect for FBI agents. Essentially, Hoover and his people sent "nasty-grby James Angleton and he had no choice in whether or not he would play ball with CIA. He had to. Like it or not. 

Retired CIA official Colson stated to Trento that Harvey was Hoover's spy in the CIA

On 6/3/2021 at 9:32 AM, John Butler said:

Harvey was a top grade FBI agent until he ran afoul of Hoover.  Now, whether that is true or not, Harvey was given the task to interrogate the biggest Soviet spy of the WW2 era.  This was the Clever Girl, Elizabeth Bentley who ran 2 or 3 major spy rings during the forties prior to 1945.  These rings had many and major player infiltrators in the OSS.  One can assume she knew just about everything the OSS knew and reported it to the Soviets.  Communist infiltration of the OSS was the major, but unspoken reason, that Truman axed the OSS. 

I speculate that Harvey was given major OSS secrets by Bentley.  And, this was his ticket into the later agencies that were formed into the CIA.  And, this is what kept her out of jail. 

One of these secrets could have been the Oswald Project.  Now that is way out on a limb speculation, but would add to the notion that Hoover knew of the Oswald Project and used that knowledge later to collect records in the time directly after the assassination.  

 

I am starting to be convinced that Hoover secretly collaborated with Harvey to kill Kennedy and set up Oswald as patsy.

1 hour ago, Pamela Brown said:

Thank you, Calvin. I agree. I have that book somewhere. I'll have to dig it out...

I have always been uncomfortable with the Bushes.  It has seemed that while the Kennedys were being targeted, they were profiting.  Hidden in the background, where we could not see what was going on.  The invisible man...

There is no need. Here is the link: http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/

16 hours ago, Pamela Brown said:

I would agree that JFK's connection to Wernher Von Braun and the moon/space race was a provocative part of the assassination of JFK.  And WVB believed that aliens existed and were not a threat.  

Here's my take...https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2018/04/08/the-jfk-assassination-from-a-different-perspective/

 

This is from the book George Bush: An Unauthorized Biography

"Kennedy was committed to a vigorous expansion of the space program, the cultural impact of which was beginning to alarm the finance oligarchs. Above all, Kennedy was acting like a man who thought he was President of the United States, violating the collegiality of oligarchical trusteeship of that office that had been in force since the final days of Roosevelt. Kennedy furthermore had two younger brothers who might succeed him, putting a strong Presidency beyond the control of the Eastern Anglophile Liberal Establishment for decades. George Bush joined in the Harrimanite opposition to Kennedy on all of these points."

On 3/1/2021 at 10:58 AM, Rick McTague said:

https://intel.securecomm.network/45files/JFK_FILES/

I hope that the fine researchers who are on this forum can make good use of these; I have no way of knowing if they were previously available before today.

Thanks

Rick, the website does not work

Just now, Joseph McBride said:

Thank you, Calvin.

 

Do you want me to email you the affidavit?

6 hours ago, Joseph McBride said:

Calvin, could you please post the rest of that document? That website link seems iffy. And what is the provenance and context of the affidavit?

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Based from what I read, one way to stop fascism is to cut off the financiers of fascism: the Wall Street and business elites

On 2/16/2019 at 8:51 AM, Joe Bauer said:

Yes Robert.   

Mrs. Harvey reveals not only how deeply despising her husband was of both JFK and RFK but also his incredible closeness to a ranking member of the American Mafia whose standing was in the same highest level circle as Giancana, Trafficanti, Marcello, etc.

All JFK haters to a murderous degree.

Mrs. Harvey calls Johnny Roselli a true patriot..and the Kennedys "scum." ! ?

Dear God ... how nefariously disturbing, perverse and crazy is that loyalty dichotomy?

You can't help but consider the suggestive importance of this reality regards who might possibly have had motive in at least some area of the JFK event, especially someone of William Harvey's career background and standing and his own personal hatred of the Kennedy's.

Clearly Mrs. Harvey was oblivious to the astounding revealing of her husband's incredible closeness to a high ranking member of the Kennedy hating Mafia and the seriously ominous implications this opens up.

Mrs. Harvey implies that JFK's philandering, and maybe Jackie's too helps justify her labeling them "scum?"  Well then, using this same standard shouldn't we also include in her "Scum Club" the likes of LBJ, Allen Dulles, E.Howard Hunt and countless other "patriots" and even her hero Johnny Roselli and in today's world Donald Trump? 

Wonder what Mrs. Harvey thought of J.Edgar Hoover's standing on the patriot scale knowing of his sexual preference proclivities? Hoover was another one who didn't feel the Mafia was too bad.

 

 

 

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What this CIA Widow Says About JFK, Jackie, RFK, and the Mafia Will Amaze You

Trento wrote in his book Secret History of CIA that retired CIA official Colson said that Harvey was Hoover's spy in the CIA

On 9/22/2017 at 2:34 PM, Paul Brancato said:

I think maybe it's time to revisit this thread, which was pretty much hijacked by page 2 by Mr. Gratz. Steve Thomas and Shanet Clark and others did a good job setting up the discussion on page 1. The Corsican connection has never been disproven, it just kind of faded away. Yet there are new clues to add, such as written about in David Talbot's book The Devil's Chessboard having to do with the OAS attempt on DeGaulle, and his response to it. Operation Gladio is mentioned by Steve Thomas, and it is worth exploring, especially in light of Lemnitzer being removed from the JCS and put in charge of NATO forces, and therefore most likely Operation Gladio. We have, as Thomas and others have pointed out, memos from William Harvey, whose ZRRIFLE assassination unit was overseen by Richard Helms, a man with longstanding ties to James Angleton from OSS days, which describe the outsourcing of assassination squads. And there's Dinkin, US Army stationed in Europe overhearing OAS communications talking about the assassination before it occurred, something which resulted in Dinkin being detained and messed with extensively. I find myself believing his story now.

What is missing from this thread is QJWIN. Who was he? Name still hidden by CIA, he was apparently a European assassin, or recruiter of assassins, who is tied into the Corsican network. Who contacted him? Apparently William Harvey. Then we have Phillipe De Vosjoli, head of French Intel in the US until he resigned in November 1963 and defected (?) to the US. Close to Angleton, he flew to Mexico right after the assassination of JFK and stayed with retired US Army Colonel Brandstetter, co founder of the 488th reserve Intelligence unit in Dallas, (at least 60 of whose members with also DPD, mostly from the detective unit) with fellow ex Army intelligence officer and oilman Jack Crichton. 

I've come to the pretty firm conclusion that the key to the assassination is QJWIN. As for Mexico City and New Orleans being the key, I believe they are the key to Oswald, not to the crime itself. Above all of it, MC, JMWAVE, NO, the radical right fascist network, sits James Angleton, who may not have been privy, as he said, to who fired the fatal shots, but who was the most likely mastermind of the plot. But he did not operate in a vacuum or on his own accord.

Paul, Angleton was obviously lying about not being privy to who kill the president

2 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

Was Rose Cherami Murdered? (onthetrailofdelusion.com)

Of course Rose was a victim of homicide

On 5/30/2021 at 11:25 AM, Douglas Caddy said:

This  program is a mixed-bag. There are parts I agree with and others I don't. I soon will be posting my view on how the upcoming Pentagon report on UFOs and the Alien Presence came about.

This interview is consumed with the power and influence of the Mellon Family. I am not sure that the Alien Presence gives one hoot about the Mellons or any other member of  the 300 Families that the interviewee talks about.

The last ten minutes has a surprise for those of us interested in the Kennedy assassination. 

 

Dark Journalist: Truth UFO Disclosure & Mellon Family Secrets! Exclusive Interview John W. Warner IV

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtY5iISsMAY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The book Acid Dreams stated that the Mellon Family has ties to CIA and Richard Helms

1 hour ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

Did Rose Cherami Provide Invaluable Information on Dope Smuggling? (onthetrailofdelusion.com)

My criticism of Fred's take on Rose Cheramie is that he didn't read the available books on Rose Cheramie and instead rely only on documents proving his case.

2 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

According to Fruge, Cherami said Ruby and Oswald were "bed partners" (in the literal sense). Cherami also said Oswald's nickname was "pinkey." Fruge also was the person who said that it was "verified" that Cherami stripped for Ruby. So, either Fruge is a good source on all of this or he isn't.

Please check out Denny's above post concerning Fruge's source

2 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

I don't know what you mean by "common elements." If you mean that those who would plan to kill JFK (assuming there was a conspiracy) might have ties to unsavory elements that is a reasonable assumption. What is not reasonable to me is that these elements would have anything to do with either Cherami or Ruby. That is if they planned to keep their plot a secret.

BTW, what happened to your photo Calvin? I think that is required here.

Tracy, you didn't research enough to understand what I am talking about

2 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

I'll tell you what is "illogical." Believing that a woman with an extensive criminal record who was a prostitute and drug abuser and who had played loose with "facts" that she  related to law enforcement officials would have any type of knowledge of an assassination plot as she claimed (or as some people said she claimed). What sort of conspiracy would trust her?

She also said that Ruby and Oswald were "bed partners." Is that believable? The whole point here is that any comments she made were almost certainly after the assassination when she and many other people were speculating about the facts surrounding JFK's death. Absent some verification (and I don't mean anonymous sources) The Rose Cherami story is not believable to most people at this point in time. Yet it seems that it must be defended here with the utmost vigor.

Tracy, the Cheramie story is not believable to most WC supporters and conspiracy skeptics like you. The problem is that you don't understand that prostitution, drugs and law enforcement officials have ties to common elements

1 hour ago, Steve Roe said:

Well golly gee.....Let's put it another way. If Jim Garrison had evidence that Rose Cheramie worked for Jack Ruby, where is it? Don't you think something as important as that would be in Garrison's papers? 

Bottom line, you have no proof. Only he said-she said. That don't cut it. 

If Fruge/Dischler "verified" she worked for Ruby and told Jim Garrison....where is it?

And of course Jack Ruby slept with Oswald......

Yeah, you got yourself another winner DiEugenio. Are you going to put me on ignore again, like last time?

 

Ruby didn't slept with Oswald. Rose was saying that Ruby and Oswald knew each other and was working together as part if not a team

1 minute ago, Denny Zartman said:

Fred Litwin also said Oswald was the only employee missing after the assassination, a clear falsehood. When I called him on it, he said Oswald was the only missing employee that mattered.

He's not someone you can rely on for factual information.

I said that to Greg, that Fred is not to be trusted

58 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

Latest Fred Litwin post: "Did Rose Cherami ever work for Jack Ruby?" https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-rose-cherami-ever-work-for-jack-ruby. Pretty compelling of no evidence and not very likely. If someone objects to citing Fred Litwin on this, all I can say is why have JFK pro-conspiracy researchers not done this spadework first in discrediting this story.

I disagree with you. Fred is not to be trusted  and he is a neocon.

1 hour ago, Steve Roe said:

Thanks Tracy,

How anyone can believe what Melba Marcades said, is beyond me. So far I've tracked her criminal activities back to the 40's, and still finding them as we speak. 

It's a sad story, and I think her son was right about not being right in the head. It only compounded when she got into the bottle and narcotics.

 She grew up in Dallas, so that's probably why she made up the looney Kennedy Assassination story. 

Steve, did you even look into Rose's story before concluding your solution?

Biden is not going to declassify all of the remaining document nor he will pardon Abraham Bolden

13 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Indeed.  I was merely pointing out that heroin withdrawal would not have caused Rose Cheramie to hallucinate conversations about an impending hit on President Kennedy.

Rose was a drug trafficker. In fact it is obvious that drug traffickers and Anti-Castro Cubans were involved in the death of the president

1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:

Greg,

     I worked part-time in the substance abuse field during my psychiatric career, and I was board certified in Addiction Psychiatry.  Hallucinations are not a characteristic symptom of heroin withdrawal.

Niederhut, hallucinations is a characteristic symptom of schizophrenia

2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Why not?

 

The problem is that if I post evidence on FB, Fred might distort or misconstrued it