Marjan Rynkiewicz

14 hours ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

You admit that "single shot slamfires are possible" and the key word in your Wiki quote is "may," meaning "might" or "might not." So let's look at what the witnesses say. 

I believe you quote the one witness who describes the shots as a "flurry." However, "flurry" is too vague a term. It may simply have been an attempt to describe multiple shots. Clint Hill described the last shot as "having some type of echo." However, I think he was describing the "double-bang." We have quite a few witnesses who describe the "double-bang" as a "pow-pow" or "bang-bang" or "crack-crack" for the last two shots, which of course does not align with Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcanno which needed about 2.5 seconds just to operate the bolt. However, this "double-bang" does align pretty well with the acoustical evidence, which places 1/2 second between the last two shots. The experts place the first of these as a "Grassy Knoll" shot. I contend it was Hickey's (single) slam fire shot, fired from the road in front of the GK but close enough to the test shot location (which the acoustical experts allowed 25 feet one way or the other from the test shot location for the actual shooter) to mimic the echo pattern of a shot fired from there. I don't believe any witness describes a machine-gun like rat-a-tat-a-tat sound that a multiple slam-fire of 4-5 shots would have made.

I like the acoustical evidence, which places only one "GK" shot. However, I do admit that an effort was made to discredit the acoustical evidence with (among other things) a fraudulent "mic placement diagram" and later NAS "cross-talk" analysis. However, Dr. Donald Thomas, who studied the acoustical evidence extensively, provides an alternative explanation for the (inaudible to me) "hold everything secure" utterance that is supposedly a "cross-talk." I recommend Dr. Thomas's chapters on the acoustical evidence in his book Hear No Evil. I also invite you to watch the episode on the Acoustical Evidence in my documentary series: 

 I do applaud your open-mindedness in accepting Hickey's involvement in the shooting. That is a huge hurdle, given many researchers' belief that the Bronson film "shows Hickey seated at the moment of the assassination." It does not, for reasons I've gone into elsewhere. It does show Hickey with a faint "black stick" that might be the AR-15. But Hickey's involvement explains so much that can't be explained any other way. 

Cheers! -Denise

Re the erroneous Z313 for Hickey sitting.

I have determined uzing the footfalls/footsteps (of the lady walking towards the limo) that Bronson shows Hickey seated at Z316, not Z313.

I have shown (by distance moved per frame) that Bronson's frames are missing about 5 frames.

And, the erroneous Z313 estimate relies on an assumed rate for Bronson.

But we do not know whether Bronson was/is at 16 fps or at 12 pfs or what.

Hence the erroneous Z313, which is actually Z316.

Re Hickey sitting.

I have shown that (a few frames before Z313) Bronson shows that Hickey briefly rises up a half head from his already high seated/standing position on the back seat.

Hickey was sitting on a leather [ammo] case which is itself sitting on a larger [AR15] leather case sitting on the back seat.

When sitting, Hickey's head was only one head lower than the heads of the agents standing on the running boards.

So, when Hickey partly stood/rose up his head was a half head below the agents' heads.

Re Hickey shooting.

The AR15 had to be an inch or two above the level of the Queen Mary windshield, for a slug to pass over the windshield, yet angle down enuff to hit JFK's head (about an inch below the top of the head).

When i say an inch or two i am referring to the level above Elm St, ie as if Elm St has zero grade (Elm St grade is about 3.2 deg)

When partly standing Hickey would have to hold the AR15 at chest height to achieve the above inch or two.

An accidental sqeez of the trigger would if on AUTO probly give a burst of at least 4 shots.

I think that the 1963 AR15 fired at 400 rpm (6.7 rps).

Four shots would take less than half a second.

Modern AR15s can fire at 1200 rpm i think.

Columbo:  There are a couple of loose ends I'd like to tie up, sir. Nothing important you understand.  Actually, so far, sir, we don’t have a thing.

Hickey:  Well, that’s heartening.

Columbo:  Officially, that is.

Hickey:  And unofficially?

Columbo:  Unofficially, we don’t have anything either.

Hickey:  So, when did you first suspect me?

Columbo: As it happens, sir… the first time i read the report.

Hickey: That can’t be possible.

Columbo:  Well sir, little things bother me.  Like when i was looking for the tests done on your AR15, & the bullets.  Especially your sworn witness testimony, sir.

Hickey:  There were no tests, & i wasn’t called as a witness.

Columbo:  Yes, that's what i mean sir.  It's just one of those things that got in my head and kept rolling around in there like a marble

Columbo:  My wife was a great fan of JFK sir.

Hickey:  Well, tell her it was just rotten luck.

Columbo:  Yes sir, u were just doing your job.

4 hours ago, Chris Bristow said:

I don't remember Ellis saying that. Do you have a reference for Earle Browns statement? I do remember Hoffman saying the limo saying took a long time to appear on the onramp below him indicating it might have stopped.

Earle Brown's statement was to Mack i think. Any  search will find it.

Hoffman said that Queen Mary stopped below him & turned its light signals off.

20 minutes ago, Chris Bristow said:

I put alteration aside just to make a point about the, imo, impossible timing of Chaney's ride forward. If there was no limo stop removed the timing is even more problematic.
   While taking out a limo stop is the hardest and most difficult alteration to achieve I still think it was done based on the 4 cops testimony about it fully stopping or almost  stopping.
 I have to search for all the relevant statements again because it has been some years since I researched the issue. Several of them testified to the WC more than once and some gave interviews to journalists. I have found testimony in volumes 3,4 and 7 So far. I found Sorrels saying "Get out of here" but not specifically about going to Parkland.
  Starves Ellis made his comment in an interview. He said the motorcade came to a full stop and he turned around and rode back and became part of the Chaney Curry exchange. But he tended to put himself at the center of his stories which makes me have some doubt about the details of his account. I will look for the interview.
   Hargis' account is in his WC testimony. He mentions Chaney's ride forward in his testimony in vol 4 pg 294.

Lawson says in vol 4 pg 353 that he heard a radio message saying "We should get to the nearest hospital" as he saw Clint Hill on the back of the limo. A few sentences later he is asked what the lead car was doing at the time and he mentions the bike cop who pulled forward to inform them. He  seems to be giving a timeline and then says the limo jumped forward while still a good distance behind them. That would be in the plaza before the limo caught them in the underpass.  
 That is all I have found so far. 
  I have heard the version where Hargis runs between the limo and follow up car. Only If the limo stopped would this be possible. Other wise I doubt Hargis would step in front of the follow up car and cause a delay for the SS officers trying to get LBJ out of the plaza as quickly as they could.
 

Did Ellis say that the motorcade stopped briefly on the on-ramp? 

If yes then he is witness No4 to say so.

46 minutes ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

I'd like your source/s on that, please.

Bonar Menninger's article can be found at https://mokan9997.medium.com/what-if-hickey-didnt-pull-the-trigger-dd9fae6a664c describing the early AR-15 slam-fire as being caused by the too-heavy firing pin sliding forward with too much force (especially if the weapon was jostled quickly--say, by an agent falling over) and encountering the too-sensitive ammunition primer. I don't think the pin would keep sliding forward and back repeatedly to cause multiple firings, but just the once. I also know of no witnesses who described a rat-a-tat-a-tat or similar sound. The closest sounds they describe is a "pow-pow" at the end, which the acoustical evidence places at about 1/2 second apart, attributing the first of those to the GK and the second to the TSBD.

I do like the acoustical evidence (although efforts were made to disguise/disavow it), which gives one GK shot, followed by the last TSBD shot (which I attribute as the Tague shot, per the Sheriff's Deputy who encountered Tague. (Senior moment, I can't recall the Deputy's name at this particular second, but his statement placed the Tague shot as the "last" shot.)

So until I have reason to believe otherwise, I'll stick with Hickey only firing one slam-fire shot.

Wiki says that single shot slamfires are possible.

Unintended slamfires are dangerous, and recoil may cause shooters to lose control of light firearms with conditions causing sequential slamfires if a normally semi-automatic firearm "goes full-auto" unexpectedly.^[6] A single defective cartridge may cause a single slamfire, but a firing pin stuck in a forward position or a magazine loaded with defective ammunition may cause a round to fire every time the bolt closes until the magazine is empty.

Shooters must keep the firearm pointed in a safe direction ("downrange") while closing the bolt and chambering a cartridge. If a slamfire does occur, the shooter must do his or her best to hold the firearm securely pointed in a safe direction until it ceases firing. This requires discipline, because untrained shooters may become surprised and instinctively drop the firearm as soon as it begins firing.

Aside from the dangers of any accidental discharge, an out-of-battery ignition may occur if a round slamfires before it is completely secured in the chamber. The firearm may be damaged or destroyed by a breech explosion potentially injuring the shooter and bystanders.^[2]

^{Tague was injured by Hickey's first shot. jfk hit in head by last shot.}

On 2/23/2024 at 6:04 PM, Denise Hazelwood said:

CE 567 and CE 569 are the nose and tail fragments of a bullet found on the limousine floor. There is no evidence of any "holes" in the floor. I believe that the nose and tail fragments are from LHO's first shot, which got towards the front of the car via ricochet off the seat back. There is a SS memo from SA Charles Taylor saying that an FBI agent told Taylor that the dent in the chrome had been caused by one of those fragments.

 

The SBT is BS. If you use the proper entrance location in JFK's back, which testimony places at some 5 1/2 inches below the neck line, it obviously does not work. A recent study by Knott Laboratory at  https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Ss8XOQD1hEE  confirms that the SBT is "impossible." The recent Paul Landis revelation supports that the SBT never happened. 

 

Right. There was an unfired (fourth) bullet found loaded into his rifle.

 

I do get annoyed by the assumption by even those who agreed that Hickey's weapon accidentally discharged, that there was an "auto burst" of 4 or more shots. No, just the one. A slam-fire would not automatically empty the magazine of all its bullets. The slam-fire was caused by the movement of too heavy firing pin interacting with the too-sensitive ammunition primer of the bullet. The pin would not have moved forward repeatedly from Hickey's fall, just once. But once was enough. We do get acoustical support for one "Grassy Knoll" shot (actually, from the road in front of the GK), but not multiple GK shots.

Well, I'm giving 3 Oswald shots, a couple of SS warning shots (fitting the acoustical evidence), plus I'm not sure how many post-assassination shots fired by trigger-happy SS agents or DPD officers (one before the "bike with the mic" headed out of Dealey Plaza, plus perhaps others, by A.J. Millican's FBI report) accounting for the "pool of blood" at the top of the stairs.

 

I'll refer you to the work of Dr. John Costella, Doug Horne, Dr. David Mantik, and others (including myself). Read my article at https://www.a-benign-conspiracy.com/zapruder-film-alteration.html Supposedly there's a documentary coming out by a Hollywood company talking about Z-film alteration, but unfortunately it's not out yet.

Menninger did this already, along with Donahue and the publisher rep. What someone needs to do is confirm (or disprove) the authenticity of the Bronson film, the Towner film, etc., and to post high-res images of every individual frame on the Internet so researchers (like us) can see it. 

 

As I said, there is that Charles Taylor memo stating that the dent in the chrome trim was caused by one of the 567/569 fragments. Of course, that's assuming those fragments are authentic. I think they are, but with all the substitution of evidence that has gone on, it leaves the question open.

 

I agree, but with all the doubling-down and the recent MFF v Biden decisions, I doubt we'll ever get it.

Weissman in 2019 inspected the Sixth Floor Museum's Bronson film & 2017 scan & 2019 scan, including looking at the original 8mm film frames through his own cameras/viewers. Weissman wrote a report for Bonar Menninger, he wrote that he could not say for certain that Hickey held the AR15.

Weissman suggested that a new scan be made at double resolution. And that the 8mm film frames be viewed with a microscope. He wrote that his own viewing of the original film was of little use as his camera/viewer was only 20X.

Weissman's report has a small pix showing only 0.64% of one 2019 Bronson frame, but that little glimpse of that small area was enuff for me to see that Hickey did indeed hold the AR15 during the shooting. There are 26 Bronson frames in the Bronson sequence around Z313, but Unger shows only 20 frames on his website.

I think that today we can watch a low-res Bronson film on the Sixth Floor Museum website. The frames in this film are i think a lower res copy of the low-res 2017 scan. It would be nice if the Sixth Floor Museum showed a hi-res copy of their higher res 2019 scan.

I made my own low res Bronson frames from my own screenprints of the Sixth Floor Museum film, but i mostly used the 20 better higher res Unger frames.

Robin Unger's website shows 20 frames (6 frames are missing), i think that Robin Unger got these by making screenprints off the Museum's 2017 youtube of Bronson, before that youtube was deleted.

I suppose that slamfires can have a number of causes. But, my limited reading tells me that all slamfires empty the magazine every time. The AR15 held say 20 bullets.  In any case Hickey fired at least 4 shots.

11 hours ago, Chris Bristow said:

I first read the story about Chaney and Curry's  meeting happening on the Stemmons onramp in a piece from Gary Mack. He claimed they each came to him independently and related the same account. I think they had both passed away by the time he told the story so it could not be verified.
 It is one of the most absurd stories I have ever heard and is so full of holes that it is a joke, imo.
 According to Mack, that stop happened for two reasons. Greer did not know how to get to parkland and needed directions, and secondly Curry was not sure if there really was an emergency that would necessitate a rush to Parkland.
 It is true that Greer did not know the route to Parkland, but the idea of bringing their rush to the hospital to a halt so someone could inform Greer, or to make sure they even needed to rush to Parkland is ridiculous. If they suspected there was a medical emergency is Curry going to stop the motorcade to have a talk with them? Even if Curry wanted to instruct Greer or ascertain the possible injuries he could use the radio. In addition it does not make sense that Greer could get lost when he was right behind Curry. With sirens going the traffic was getting out of the way and there is no chance Greer and Curry would get separated by a traffic light.
The idea he would stop the motorcade is unthinkable. What is he going to do, have some cops check everyone to see if they have been shot?
 Then there is the testimony of Curry in which he gives the timeline. According to Curry the conversation with Chaney absolutely happens in the plaza before hitting the underpass. That is true of all the witnesses to Chaney's ride forward.
 By the time they get to the Stemmonns onramp Curry was fully aware there was an emergency. He heard the shots fired and then both Sorrels and Lawson yell 'Shots fired get to Parkland"(Per their testimony.).He sees the limo speed up towards him so he floors it. But he says the limo still caught up to him under the overpass. He must have heard Kinney's siren too. Kinney and Kellerman also put out radio calls before they reached the underpass. When the limo caught Curry in the underpass Curry said he heard two people from the limo yell "Get to Parkland!". Hill and Greer have verified they yelled this. By that time the limo was slightly ahead of Curry and accelerating, (Approx 35mph just before going under the overpass.)
 The idea that Curry would tell Mack that he needed to stop the motorcade to verify that they needed to rush to Parkland is not believable.
 Chaney would have also seen the panic in the plaza, heard Kinney's siren, and seen Curry and the limo accelerating out of the plaza. He may have also heard the two radio calls from Kinney and Kellerman.
As seen in the McIntyre photo Chaney would also have seen that the Limo was about 800 ft ahead of him by then and that it was racing for the onramp. Kinney's siren was still blaring. But instead of attempting to use his radio Chaney must have decided he would catch up to the limo before giving his message to Curry.
He was not aware the Limo would stop on the onramp. He must have assumed that he would be chasing it down the Stemmons freeway for some time before he could catch up and relay the most important and time sensitive message of his career. 
 If Chaney did catch up on the onramp Curry, would he still think he had to inform Curry that there was a problem in the motorcade at that point?  
 Davis Lifton has said they stopped on the onramp because Jackie tried to jump out of the limo. Possibly due to a delayed panic reaction. Maybe that is true and Curry's reason for stopping was a cover story for Jackie's benefit. But the sequence of events up to that point point make it very clear both Chaney and Curry already knew there was an emergency.  
 Gary Mack's story does not pass the smell test. It is more likely Mack made the whole thing up to explain away the testimony of Curry, Chaney, Hargis, Sorrels and Lawson. 
 

Earle Brown said that the motorcade stopped for at least 30 sec on the on-ramp.

Hoffman's account supports Brown.

Plus we have other similar accounts.

Plus a lot of evidence fits a stoppage.

4 hours ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

Menninger agreed that the "black stick" was the AR-15 in a letter he sent to me in response to my contacting him regarding the 3rd person reference to "Hickey" in the WC memo that was supposed to have been written by Hickey. Menninger was at the SFM with Donahue and publisher rep and Gary Mack to view the Bronson film, and I'm sure had a much clearer view than we have online. This was done after all the work on Mortal Error had been completed, but before the lawsuit went forward. I personally communicated with the publisher rep. He and Menninger had a completely different version of events that took place than those alleged in the lawsuit, which was settled for an "undisclosed" amount. Personally, I think they should have let the lawsuit progress and taken it to court, in which case I bet it would have been dropped. But I think it was settled by the publisher for the "undisclosed" amount because it was easier to settle for a small sum than to go to court. I suspect the point of the lawsuit was just to be able to say that "Hickey sued the publisher" rather than for any other reason. 

I would also point out that Z313 as being the "head shot" is dependent upon Z-film authenticity. John Costella offers various "proofs" that the film was altered. I think was altered more extensively than Costella or any other people (who simply think that "frames were removed") have yet to realize. The actual head shot occurred when the limo was farther down Elm Street, per the FBI "visual aid" image: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10699#relPageId=26 

I have no doubts that Oswald's shot-1 was at pseudo Z105 (or at least at the signals)(shot hit signal arm)(splatter hit JFK in back of head)(main slug made hole in limo floor)(CE567 CE569).

Oswald's shot-2 was at Z218 (the SBT slug).

Oswald did not fire his last bullet.

Hickey's auto burst of at least 4 shots was at say Z300 to Z312 (wounded Tague)(made dent in chrome trim)(hit JFK in head).

And there were no other shots.

I don’t believe that the Z film was altered or frames removed etc.

We need 2 things.

(1) Someone has to view the Sixth Floor Museum 2019 copy of the Bronson film.

(2) Someone has to replicate the AR15 dent in the chrome trim.

(3) An exhumation & MRI of JFK's skull would be good.

1 hour ago, Pat Speer said:

FWIW, I am fairly certain it's been shown that Chaney caught up with the lead car on the Stemmons Freeway on-ramp. He most certainly did not catch up before the lead car reached the overpass. 

 

Earle Brown said that the motorcade stopped on the Stemmons on-ramp for about 30 seconds.

Supported by another 2 witnesses.

2 hours ago, Tony Rose said:

Are there ear-witnesses who said the the shooting sequence ended with a burst of machine gun fire?

Yes there were a number of mentions of a flurry of shots or of shots very close together etc.

1 hour ago, Tony Rose said:

Is that sarcasm?

(1) Anyone can cherry pick evidence to support almost any hypothesis if there is an abundance of suitable evidence.

(2) A hypothesis that cannot be supported by any available cherry picked evidence is difficult.

Hickeyists find ourselves in between (1) & (2).

The main problem is that jfk evidence is mostly made up of factoids. Leading to many possible false hypotheses. 

On 8/1/2022 at 8:08 AM, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:

Powers never denied that Hickey fired -- Powers merely blurted a true-ism -- Powers said that Powers would have heard.

The Bronson film is an amazing saga. The 2017 copy of frames show a darkish blobbish shape (AR15) angling up & forward at about 50 deg from Hickey half sitting half standing on 2 leather cases in the back seat. The AR15 is half actual, half creation (artifact). If the half creation part did not exist then we would not know that the AR15 was there.

And then along comes the superior 2019 copy. Here the blobs have gone, the half creation has gone. There is no AR15. But, we know from the 2017 inferior copy that there is an AR15 in there somewhere. So, we look, & we look, &, yes, we see the AR15 in the 2019 frame. But, now, it is not angling up at about 50 deg, it is a triangular area of swish, ie an AR15 swinging quickly, either up or down.  Were it not for the inferior 2017 copy i would never in a million years have spotted the swishing AR15 in the superior 2019 copy. 

So, was the swish up or down?  Close examination of films shows that the frame in question was say 4 frames after Z313. Hickey fired at say Z297 when he stumbled forward when Kinney braked to avoid turning Hill into roadkill, so, Hickey had from Z297 to Z317 to get his bum back on the leather cases, 20 Zapruder frames, not a problem.

At Z317, was the AR15 swishing up or down? I think up, koz it was swishing very fast, but probably not important.

Thank god for the poor 2017 copy.

bump

4 hours ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

The Bronson frame that purportedly "shows Hickey seated at the moment of the assassination" does not necessarily "show the moment of the assassination" (which actually happened farther down Elm street than the Z313 "head shot" apparently shows). However, the Bronson film does show a "black stick" (Bonar Menninger's term as used to me in a private letter) which you can see if you look carefully. Menninger and I both think this is the AR-15. Check out the image at http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2013/08/drums-of-conspiracy.html that supposedly "disproves" the Donahue t

Interesting re Bonar Menninger agreeing that Bronson shows Hickey holding the AR15.

His book Mortal Error i see duznt mention Bronson in its Index.

And no mention in the Index for JFK The Smoking Gun by Colin McLaren.

But, Donahue in Mortal Error did base his drawing (of Hickey holding the AR15  in Queen Mary & JFK in the JFKlimo) on a frame from Bronson (needs checking).

I have pointed out on this forum that the Bronson frame supposedly at Z313 is actually a few frames later. So, Bronson (2017 frames) confirms that Hickey did the dirty deed.

The superior 2019 frames will show it much better (someone should ask to see).

15 hours ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

 

Actually, we last see him in the sprocket area right at the 208 part of the 208/212 splice, with a faint ghostly image where his head should be in 212 before the camera pans to the right and cuts him off completely. The "recovered" frames from the copies did not have the sprocket areas.

Hickey can be seen in the Bronson footage (which is very blurry), some of which is before Z313 & some after Z313.

Searching Bronson today gives 840 hits on this forum.

Some of these hits (the best of these hits) are my comments, which i made in the last couple of years (some of my Bronson comments are on this present thread).

23 minutes ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

All these people who say "Hickey couldn't have done it" ignore a number of things:

1. The Z-film is not authentic. The actual head shot happened farther down Elm Street than Z313, when the limo was closer to the stairs. It does not show "hickey seated at the moment of the head shot" because it is not authentic, and the Z313 head shot is not authentic.

I see that Z212 is our last glimpse of Hickey (ie 101 frames before Z313). Here at Z212 jfk has not yet disappeared behind the sign, & jfk has not yet been hit by Oswald shot-2.

12 hours ago, David Von Pein said:

Is "Parkdale" anything like the fictional nation "Qumar" in the NBC-TV series The West Wing ?

( 😉 )

 

Parkdale is a sleepy little bayside suburb of Melbourne near my (old) billiards club. Have changed to Parkland.

The Parkdale main street had the first 40 kmph speed limit in that part of Melbourne (ie 25 mph)(in about 1990)(on a trial basis)(otherwise the standard urban speed limit everywhere was 60 kmph). Today most main streets in towns etc in Australia are 40 kmph, & every school frontage street is 40 kmph, & most residential streets are 50 kmph.

But i dont get the Qumar ref? 

7 hours ago, Keven Hofeling said:

Bethesda Tech Paul O'Connor Disputes Authenticity of BOH Autopsy Photo in KRON Documentary (1988)

 

Bethesda Tech Floyd Riebe on Alteration of BOH Autopsy Photos - KRON's JFK An Unsolved Murder (1988)

 

Bethesda X-Ray Tech Jerrol Custer Says X-Ray is Fraudulent in KRON's JFK: An Unsolved Murder (1988)

 

Bethesda X-Ray Tech Jerrol Custer Showing JFK Head Wound on KRON's JFK: An Unsolved Murder

 

Bethesda Autopsy Tech Paul O'Connor Demonstrates JFK Head Wound in KRON's An Unsolved Murder (1988)

 

Bethesda Autopsy Photographer Floyd Riebe Demonstrates JFK Back of Head Wound

 

Former FBI Francis O'Neil Demonstrates Location of Back of Head Wound and Discusses Remains of Brain

 

Former FBI Agent Francis O'Neil demonstrating Location of the Back of the Head Wound

 

Mortician Tom Robinson Demonstrates JFK Back of the Head Wound Location and Discusses Missing Brain

 

EXCERPT FROM THE 9/11/1997 ARRB DEPOSITION OF JAMES W. SIBERT REGARDING HIS SKULL DIAGRAM OF JFK'S HEAD WOUND:

"...Q: With the wound that you have drawn on this document now marked Exhibit 188. Was that the largest wound that you saw - on the skull?

A: That was the largest wound.

Q: You referred to, a moment ago, that you were shown some things by the HSCA staff. Do you recall what you were shown?

A: I can’t even recall that. I can’t remember whether they were schematic drawings, or what they were. But he said, “Have you ever seen this before?”

And I looked at it. And I said, “No, I

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haven’t:” And that was my recollection.

Q: Now, were there any other wounds that you could identify as being on the head or skull area from the time before the first incision was made?

A: No.

Q: Did you see any wounds or injuries on the neck?

A: The front of the neck, you’re speaking of?

Q: Any part of the neck.

A: Yes. This tracheotomy incision was very evident.

Q: Okay. Were there any other wounds that you noticed at that time on the body?

A: No.

Q: Later in - during the course of the autopsy, did you ever see any additional wounds? So, maybe you did not see them before the first incision.

A: No…."

ARRB Deposition of James Sibert

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/pdf/Sibert_9-11-97.pdf

 

HSCA BACK OF HEAD WOUND WITNESSES

 

In formerly suppressed witness interviews that were not available to David Lifton when he wrote Best Evidence, but were to Doug Horne, the HSCA reported the following:

• Bethesda lab technologist James Jenkins told the HSCA that, “he saw a head wound in the ‘…middle temporal region back to the occipital.’”[2]
• In an affidavit prepared for the HSCA, FBI agent James Sibert wrote that, "The head wound was in the upper back of the head … a large head wound in the upper back of the head…”[3]
• The HSCA’s Andy Purdy interviewed Tom Robinson, the mortician who prepared John Kennedy's remains for burial.: "Approximately where was (the skull) wound located?" Purdy asked. "Directly behind the back of his head," Robinson answered. Purdy: "Approximately between the ears or higher up?" Robinson, "No, I would say pretty much between them.”
• Jan Gail Rudnicki, Dr. Boswell's lab assistant on the night of the autopsy, told the HSCA’s Mark Flanagan, the “back-right quadrant of the head was missing.”[4]
• When first asked, John Ebersole, MD, the attending radiologist who took JFK's autopsy X-rays, told the HSCA, “The back of the head was missing,” Hethen waffled after being shown the autopsy photographs.[5]
• Regarding the Commanding officer of the military District of Washington, D. C., Philip C. Wehle, the HSCA reported that, “(Wehle) noted that the wound was in the back of the head so he would not see it because the President was lying face up.”[6] (emphasis added throughout)

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[2] HSCA interview with Curtis Jenkins, Jim Kelly and Andy Purdy, 8-29-77. JFK Collection, RG 233, Document #002193, p.4. Also reproduced in ARRB Medical Document #65, see p.4 and diagram on p. 16.

[3] HSCA rec # 002191. Also reproduced in ARRB Medical Document #85, see p. 3 and diagram on p. 9.

[4] HSCA rec. # 180-10105-10397, agency file number # 014461, p. 2.)

[5] https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md60/html/Image04.htm

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'JFK: WHAT THE DOCTORS SAW - AN IMPORTANT ADDITION, AND A MISSED OPPORTUNITY'

Written by Gary Aguilar | Thursday, 04 January 2024 04:08 | https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jfk-what-the-doctors-saw-an-important-addition-and-a-missed-opportunity

 

"Dr. Gary Aguilar examines and evaluates the evidence in the Paramount Plus special exposing the deceptions surrounding the false claims of the House Select Committee on the exit hole in the rear of Kennedy’s skull." 

 

Gary L. Aguilar, MD, is one of the few physicians outside the government ever permitted to examine the still-restricted photographs and X-rays taken during President Kennedy’s autopsy. He has published widely on the medical evidence in professional journals, books and on-line. He has lectured before academic medical, academic medico-legal, and non-professional public audiences on the subject. He is currently Clinical Professor of Ophthalmology, U.C. San Francisco, and the head of ophthalmology and the Vice Chief of Staff at Saint Francis Memorial Hospital in San Francisco.

 

Keven Keven Keven. I suggest a small experiment.

Lay down on the floor, facing the ceiling.

Rest your head on a say Rubicks Cube.

Now, use your right hand to show me the location of the hole in jfk's skull.

If u want to show me the center of the back of the head then the Rubicks Cube will be in the way of your hand.

But, every one of your examples shows an idiot a doctor with hand/fingers at back of head.

So, at autopsy, the head rest was covering the hole.

Or, at Parkdale Parkland the hole was kissing the gurney.

NOPE.

Postmortems for dummys.

Autopsy 101. HEAD RESTS.

101.1 The head is supported by a small head-rest ($49.95).

101.2 The head-rest rests between the table & the back of the head (if supine).

101.3 The head rest hides a small central area at the center of the back of the head.

101.4 If the back of the head has a very large area of missing skull bone then u will need to use two head rests, one each side of the defect.

101.5   Instead of using 2 head rests, use a single super sized head rest ($99.95).

101.6  We recommend the JFK1000 ($110)(beware of cheap imitations). 

101.7 WARNING -- the back of the head is not the top of the head (the top of the head is sometimes wrongly called the back of the head)(we have even seen cases where the forehead has been described as being the top of the head).

101.8 The JFK1000 has markings clearly delineating the back of the head & the top of the head & the left ear & the right ear & the direction to the anus.

101.9 If using a single small head rest then sometimes the head rest can disappear into the head & be lost if there is a large cavity in the back of the head (always double check the xrays).

Meanwhile, upstairs in the recovery wards of Parklands & Bethesda, patients are recovering from all kinds of operations & sicknesses.

(Sicknesses which are largely due to a lifetime of eating & drinking factory-made-processed seed oils & starches & sugars & transfats)(ie carbohydrates & fibre)(& due to eating fruits & veggies & flours & fibre)(ie due to eating & drinking slow acting poizons). 

(Sicknesses such as auto-immune diseases of every kind)(obesity)(diabetes)(organ damage)(cancers)(heart problems)(etc etc). 

Patients at Parkland & Bethesda were/are fed all of the above krapp, & mobile patients can visit their nearest coin operated vending machine to get sugary drinks & eats.

It was thus in 1963, & it is thus in 2024.

Patients (& non patients) need to eat fat & protein (ie red meats)(grass fed), & fish is ok, & fowl is ok, & eggs are ok (free range), & (praps a little) dairy is ok (eg butter & cream & cheese etc).

This diet is called a carnivore diet.

Its best to not eat or use much virgin olive oil, but olive oil is much better than other oils (eg seed oils)(poizon).

I will have to change my avatar. I no longer eat fish & chips (potato) every day. I do eat fish but not covered in batter or breadcrumbs. And i have cut back the wine. 

The 6thFloorMuseum ran some tests years ago.

They made a doll's house TSBD, with a clay Oswald with a clay Carcano. The clay Oswald had a gorilla head.

And they made a clay SSA Hickey with a clay AR15 sitting in the back of a clay Queen Mary. The clay Hickey had a gorilla head.

And they made a clay jfk & limo etc etc.

And they made a clay-motion cartoon of the jfk shooting.

A large bunch of extreme LNers were given one quick viewing of the  cartoon. They were firstly given a list of written questions to study & look out for & to answer immediately after their viewing.

Then this was repeated with a bunch of extreme CTers.

Not one of the LNers or CTers noticed that the clay driver (Greer) was a clay orangutan.

5 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

What??? Of course they had an interest in what was going on in the railroad yards. They started to go over there but were stopped by a policeman who told them to go back in the building. 

There is a version (by Styles or by Adams)(via Ernest or someone) that says that that policeman (probly Foster) said to go southwest to the front (this happened i suppose near the NW corner of the TSBD)(allbeit with 2 sets of rail tracks between them  & the TSBD).

4 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

She was very much alive at the time.  I don't actually know. Is she still with us? In any event, it would have been quite easy for her to put out the word that she thought her words had been misrepresented, if she thought they had been misrepresented. When Max Holland put together that awful program suggesting the first shot was fired before Zapruder started filming, and hit the traffic light, Tina Towner and James Tague both let it be known they thought the premise of the show was horse-poop. If Styles had thought she came downstairs much later than presumed, it seems clear she would have said as much. As it is, she refused to be tied down, and said for all she knew Oswald raced down before her, or raced down after. IOW, she didn't have a clear recollection...50 years after the fact. 

We know that Oswald's first shot did not hit the overhead signals (according to the owner of the signals, Christopher, who took the signals down when they were upgraded).

But, Holland deserves our thanks for (correctly) telling us that Oswald's shot hit (ricocheted offa) the signal support arm.

3 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

I agree. Well after Adams, Lovelady, and Shelley had testified, Ball wrote a memo saying they needed to call Eddie Piper back and ask if he saw Adams come down the stairs. He was clearly looking for more ways to discredit her. IF he thought Styles might do the trick, he would most certainly have called her. But he didn't. Which should lead us to believe he KNEW she wouldn't undermine Adams. 

And this raises a question... Did Ball or Belin call her or have the DPD call her, and ask her some questions, and then fail to take her testimony, because of how she answered these questions? 

P.S. I just noticed that Styles told Murphy in 2008 that she met with a WC representative briefly in her office, and was confused as to why they didn't call her as a witness. I think we know the answer. 

If Adams & Styles exited the first floor via the large overhead door (which was between the stairs & the elevators), if that door was open, then would Piper have seen Adams & Styles? NOPE.

4 hours ago, Gerry Down said:

This email interview is extremely important from a historical point of view. I think it could be key to solving the mystery surrounding Vicky Adams.

Can you start a seperate thread and show all correspondence you had with her? It would be good to show screenshots, rather than copy and paste text, of both your emails to her and her emails back to you so that we get a full sense of what she said. Screenshots would be important from a historical point of view so we can be sure there is no mistake in the copy and paste function.

That was a posting by Sean Murphy from Google Groups or somesuch.

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/3Dsk9bpdySI

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/W7McW4aaYMc/m/rmbO883N__wJ

https://jfkfacts.org/one-mans-encounter-with-oswald/