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Court Rules Police No Longer Have to Release Information about Corrupt Cops to the Publicby IWB · July 1, 2015 Maryland — In a damning blow to transparency, the Maryland Court of Appeals ruled that information related to police misconduct cannot be disclosed to the public and is exempt from the Maryland Public Information Act. In other words, if a police officer strangles an innocent child to death while on duty and is “disciplined” for these actions, the public will never and can never know. According to the Baltimore Sun: The question before the state’s highest court centered on whether citizens have a right to know the outcome and other information about an investigation once misconduct allegations are sustained. In a 5-2 ruling, the court said the law exempts personnel information from disclosure and does not differentiate between “sustained” and “unsustained” complaints. This bogus secrecy applies to the actual victims in the complaints! In 2009, Sgt. John Maiello of the Baltimore Police Department was leaving a voicemail for a black woman named Teleta Dashiell. At the end of the call, Maiello thought he hung up the phone, but he actually stayed on allowing the voicemail to record his racial slurs against Dashiell. Naturally, Dashiell filed a formal complaint. Several month later, the only thing she received back was a letter from the department stating that her claim was sustained and appropriate action had been taken. That was it. The department refused to provide any further information such as what “action,” if any, had been taken. ===== Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-rules-police-longer-release-information-corrupt-cops-public/#coheWGtRLol8FR42.99 Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/court-rules-police-no-longer-have-to-release-information-about-corrupt-cops-to-the-public/#LgVustM0UpDFtyJh.99 ############################################################################# Cop who tortured handcuffed man had prior record of attacking people ==== Source: Boing Boing see video https://youtu.be/eO4DLHrjetU ------------------------------------------------ In 2009 Colorado police officer Mark Magness broke an innocent man's arm during an illegal fireworks investigation. Magness pleaded guilty but the police department didn't fire him. Now that a video has been released that shows officer Magness horrifically torturing a handcuffed man who was also tied to a chairin December 2014, the department might be wondering if they made the wrong decision to keep Magness on the force. The man, who is now fairly agitated after being assaulted while in handcuffs is thrown into the cell. He then makes a mistake and raises his open hand toward Magness. At this point, Magness jumps on the man and begins pummeled him. Magness, knowing that his body camera is recording this abuse, continues to yell out, “Stop Resisting!” throughout the abuse in an attempt to justify his torturous ways. It gets worse from there. Magness was fired by the Federal Heights police department, pleaded guilty to assault on June 17. He received one year probation. Share This Article...
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Tory policies force Britain’s poorest families to suffer the most ========================================================= http://www.acclaimednews.com/tory-policies-force-britains-poorest-families-to-suffer-the-most.html Credit: flickr.com/photos/altogetherfool/ (Acclaimed News) A newly released report has revealed, as many have suspected, that British taxes are currently weighted in such a way that hits the poorest families harder than the richest ones. With the Tories considering tax cuts for the rich, and reducing benefits plus tax credits for the poor that situation could get worse instead of better. The 2014 figures from the Office of National Statistics (ONS) clearly showed the disparity between the richest and the poorest. The richest fifth of the population had an average yearly income of £80, 800 before taxes or benefits were taken into account. In contrast the poorest fifth have to survive on 1/15th of that, a mere £5,500 (and that is if they avoid DWP sanctions). However those poorest families see 37.8 per cent of their income go back to the government in taxes, whilst the richest have 3 per cent less of their income go in taxes. If 160 Tory MPs have their way the balance will tilt towards the rich even further. They are urging Chancellor George Osborne to lower the top rate of tax to 40p. Their argument is that lower taxes for the rich eventually makes everybody richer, assuming of course they use the money they save to create extra jobs instead of spending it on luxury items, or on foreign holidays. The TUC General Secretary, Frances O’Grady argues that the rich should be paying more taxes not less: “There can be no argument for reducing taxes for the richest when they are already contributing a smaller share of their income than the poorest. “The government should instead be looking at how the wealthiest can make a fairer contribution to improving the public finances.” This is especially the case as Iain Duncan Smith has declared that there will £12 billion in welfare cuts. Ms O’Grady continued: “Without tax credits, the low-paid would be much worse off. It will be a disaster for millions of families if the government rushes ahead with plans for extreme cuts to support for people in work.” These cuts have already begun with the closing of the Independent Living Fund for disabled people, and cuts to working tax credits, and the freezing of child tax credits. Universal Credit is supposed to make people better off if they are working, but it is already three years late, and assuming it ever woks that is.
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BP Oil Spill: $18.7 Billion Fine a Mere 2% of It’s Enormous $929 Billion Revenue Remember the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion that killed 11 people and dumped some 4 million barrels of oil into the Gulf a few years ago? Well now the company has been ordered to pay the largest environmental fine in the nation’s history at $18.7 billion dollars, the final settlement to be divvied up among the Gulf states who suffered most in the oil spill’s wake. Sure, $18.7 billion sounds like a lot of money even these days, but check out this chart (via The Independent): The company only made 928.67 billion in revenue in the years since the spill. How ever will they be able to pay that hefty fine? (It’s not even 10% of the company’s gross profit; it barely makes a dent.) This money won’t make it to the pockets of the people actually affected. It never does. $18.7 billion… So that’s how much it costs for the deaths of 11 people, the rape of a whole ecosystem, and continuous negative health impacts on millions of humans and animals throughout the area for years to come? Hundreds of tar balls still dot the beaches of Louisiana even today, something that will continue for who knows how long. But don’t worry: BP senior vice president Geoff Morrell says the signs are good for a healthy Gulf. “There is nothing to suggest other than that the Gulf is a resilient body of water that has bounced back strongly,” he says. “The Gulf has not been damaged anywhere near the degree some people feared it would have in the midst of the spill.” The company, who obviously has a great vested interest, says it’s all good. On a sidenote, did you know that BP Oil CEO Tony Hayward sold off 1/3 of his total BP stock (that’s 223,288 shares) on March 17th — just a month before the explosion? Did he know something the rest of us didn’t? If you haven’t watched the Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theories episode on this oil spill yet, you might view the whole thing a little bit differently after you do: - See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/bp-oil-spill-18-7-billion-fine-a-mere-2-of-its-enormous-929-billion-revenue_072015#sthash.pfEvRBGn.dpuf
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Here is how a tin foil hat person thinks
Steven Gaal replied to Steven Gaal's topic in Political Conspiracies
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Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Gaal - does it bug you that no one ever responds to the Empire trust McNaughton DeMohrenschildt Neil Mallon George Bouhe connections? Bugs me. Hard to know what exactly to make of it, but to me it leads straight to 'George Bush of the CIA', which I believe was JEH code for 'I'm on to you guys, so leave me alone'. Also Gaal, does this connect to another of your ideas that no one responds to, the Great Southwest Corporation and Jack Crichton, another Bush connection. // BRANCATO -------------------------------------------------------------------- MOST OF WHAT YOU MENTIONED has been covered before. by : PD SCOTT/RUSS BAKER/ BRUCE ADAMSON/SIMKIN (Crichton,MacNaughton) . THE GSW et all listed below were almost all POST ASSASSINATION (except Lumpkin). THAT THE COOPERATIVE TRANSPORT tidbit that connects to said list below is PRE ASSASSINATION and should cause a light bulb to go off over you head . WHEN YOU ADD THAT DULLES IS FRIENDS WITH A NUMBER OF THESE PEOPLE (or their fathers) and is also just one degree of separation from RUTH Paine, THEN YOU CAN SAY WHERE DALLAS BEGAN. GAAL -
Survey: Students forced into taboo trade to make ends meet http://rinf.com/alt-news/money/survey-students-forced-taboo-trade-make-ends-meet/ ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Rule Britannia (With lyric annotations) (nvevvvevevevery shall be slaves la de de da da bump bump ect) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY
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Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
SIDEBAR >>>>>> INCORPORATION CAN GIVE YOU A CLUE TO DEEPER CONNECTIONS. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Information in sidebar below from Steven GAAL/ William Weston/ Bruce Adamson and Family of Secrets by Russ Baker http://halbower.blogspot.com/2009/02/family-of-secrets-by-russ-baker.html ============================================ Dallas Republic National Bank ======================= BRUCE ADAMSON reports a 1967 LA TIMES article stating the Dallas Republic National Bank was a CIA trust building.SAID BUILDING HOUSED De Mohrenschildt's offices *** - Dulles Does Dallas An FBI report mentions a communication between De Mohrenschildt, Republic National Bank of Dallas and Brown Brothers Harriman during June 1963. This is after De Mohrenschildt is in Haiti. The report says Brown Brothers Harriman had done a credit check on De Mohrenschildt and forwarded its findings to Republic National Bank. This gives Brown Brothers Harriman (and George H W Bush) cover due to their connections to De Mohrenschildt. The man driving the pilot car for the motorcade was George Lumpkin. Lumpkin was a friend of Jack Crichton (Empire Trust Member) , Bush’s GOP colleague. Lumpkin admitted to the House Select Committee on Assassinations he had consulted with the Secret Service about motorcade security which led to the elimination of an alternative parade route. Pat Holloway *** In November 1963, Crichton and George H W Bush were both running for office: governor and senator respectively. Both used the same lawyer, Pat Holloway. Holloway worked out of the Republic National Bank Building. Both Bush and Crichton were recruited by Peter O’Donnell. Thus, Bush and Crichton were working in tandem. Neil Mallon's Dressor Industries *** (Mallon had lunch with Dulles at Dallas Council On World Affairs and later that day hosted private dinner for Dulles at his house.) Zydeco *** a subsidiary of Dresser Industries were GHWB had worked. Lewis W. MacNaughton. *** A director of the Republic National Bank and Empire Trust Member De Mohrenschildt’s company (CVOVT) was underwritten by Empire Trust. Empire was the client of James Baker’s law firm—which oversaw its operations in Texas. Lewis MacNaughton was a director of Empire Trust and was a board member of Dresser Industries (Mallon’s company). MacNaughton was also a member of the Council of World Affairs. He was also the employer of George Bouhe—the Russian émigré who introduced De Mohrenschildt to Lee Harvey Oswald. Bouhe drove around Marina and children. MacNaughton also had employed Declan Ford who housed Marina post assassination. Office which incorperated Cooperative Transport *** A man who worked for Cooperative Transpost >>>> FIRST ) ate his lunch in back of the TSBD and didnt try to see the POTUS just a few yards away. and >>>> SECOND ) Reported that there was no unusual activity behind the GK fence. }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} DOLLY SHOE incorporated by lawfirm of Uncle of Marguerite Oswald. ============================================================ Marguerites uncle's law partner was a United Fruit lawyer and she got a receptionist job at Standard Fruit pre WW II . Standard Fruit and United Fruit were at loggerheads till 1942. They were still post WWII at loggerheads but to a lesser degree.She may have been a United Fruit spy on Standard Fruit. United Fruit worked with ONI circa WWI ,WWII and possible beyond . The ONI --- United Fruit connection may have been continuous from WWI onward. It could be Marguerite was a ONI asset (told possibly she was working for the State Dept.) (Per Linda Minor ,Marguerite did date a number of Navy men). gaal (PS receptionist "CAN BE" good place for a spy) }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} -
Video: Hartford police beating caught on camera Originally posted here. https://www.facebook.com/lashon.byrd/videos/vb.100002229222866/844378955646404/?type=2&theater. http://rinf.com/alt-news/multimedia/video-hartford-police-beating-caught-on-camera/ ########################################################### http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/2015/07/police-officer-shoots-at-charging-dog.html Police officer shoots at charging dog, hits 4-year-old girl, allegedly leaves without offering help A 4-year-old girl who was shot in the leg when a police officer fired at a dog is recovering after surgery as her family questions how the officer responded. Ava Ellis was hit accidentally on the afternoon of June 19 when an officer fired at a charging dog at a home in Whitehall, in central Ohio, according to Columbus police. The department said another relative had flagged down the officer for help after the girl's mother cut herself on glass. Ava's parents, Andrea and Brad Ellis, and their attorney disputed the police account Tuesday and alleged the policeman fired unnecessarily and acted recklessly with children nearby on the porch. They say the roughly 40-pound dog, a bulldog mix named Patches, was retreating inside from the porch when the officer fired. "The dog may have barked at the officer; however, the officer should not have shot," attorneyMichael Wright said. "There was absolutely no reason for him to shoot. He was within 10 (or) 12 feet of the children." The family also says people yelled to notify the officer that the girl was hurt but claims he drove away without offering help, and other emergency responders had to care for the girl. A police spokeswoman, Denise Alex-Bouzounis, contradicted that, saying by email that the officer remained at the scene and called for help. The department identified him as OfficerJonathan Thomas, who had been with the force for five years. He is not on paid administrative leave, as the Ellises' attorney suggested, Alex-Bouzounis said. The Ellis family and their attorneys are conducting a private investigation separate from the pending police investigation of what happened, said Wright, who added that it was too early to comment on possible legal action by Ava's parents. Source:http://www.timesunion.com
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Here is how a tin foil hat person thinks
Steven Gaal replied to Steven Gaal's topic in Political Conspiracies
WakingTimes June 30, 2015 0 Comments Read More → Journal Verifies That the Vaccinated Are Transmitting Disease Dave Mihalovic, Prevent Disease Waking Times Officials at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) say the best way to prevent pertussis is to get vaccinated. However, more data continues to present itself suggesting that may be completely false. A new study published in BMC Medicine by Santa Fe Institute Omidyar Fellows Ben Althouse and Sam Scarpino points to a different, but related, source of the outbreak — vaccinated people who are infectious but who do not display the symptoms of whooping cough, suggesting that the number of people transmitting without symptoms may be many times greater than those transmitting with symptoms. In 2012, whooping cough, or pertussis, is spread across the entire US at rates at least twice as high as those recorded in 2011 and epidemiologists and health officials were even admitting that the vaccines may be the cause. The dangerous new strains of whooping cough bacteria were reported in March 2012. The vaccine, researchers said, was responsible. The reason for this is because, while whooping cough is primarily attributed toBordetella pertussis infection, it is also caused by another closely related pathogen called B. parapertussis, which the vaccine does NOT protect against. Two years earlier, scientists at Penn State had already reported that the pertussis vaccine significantly enhanced the colonization of B. parapertussis, thereby promoting vaccine-resistant whooping cough outbreaks. Even the CDC admits that caccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infan Modern Whooping Cough Vaccines Accelerated Disease In the 1990s adverse side effects of previous whopping cough vaccines led to the development and introduction of acellular pertussis vaccines, which use just a handful of the bacteria’s proteins. The standard DTP or DPT (diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough) and tetanus) vaccine is acknowledged to be the deadliest of all vaccines, causing more disability, illness and the highest risks, even exceeding MMR (measles, mumps and rubella). In the study cited above, the researchers noted the vaccine’s effectiveness was only 41 percent among 2- to 7-year-olds and a dismal24 percent among those aged 8-12 According to the authors: “… [V]accination led to a 40-fold enhancement of B. parapertussis colonization in the lungs of mice. Though the mechanism behind this increased colonization was not specifically elucidated, it is speculated to involve specific immune responses skewed or dampened by the acellular vaccine, including cytokine and antibody production during infection. Despite this vaccine being hugely effective against B. pertussis, which was once the primary childhood killer, these data suggest that the vaccine may be contributing to the observed rise in whooping cough incidence over the last decade by promoting B. parapertussis infection.” Pertussis whooping cough is a cyclical disease with natural increases that tend to occur every 4-5 years, no matter how high the vaccination rate is in a population using DTP or Tdap vaccines on a widespread basis. Whole cell DTP vaccines used in the U.S. from the 1950’s until the late 1990’s were estimated to be 63 to 94 percent effective and studies showed that vaccine-acquired immunity fell to about 40 percent after seven years. The problem is, the newer vaccines do not block transmission. A January 2014 study in PNAS by another research team demonstrated that giving baboons acellular pertussis vaccines prevented them from developing symptoms of whooping cough but failed to stop transmission. Building on that result, Althouse and Scarpino used whopping cough case counts from the CDC, genomic data on the pertussis bacteria, and a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to — even exacerbated — the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes. No Protection ‘There could be millions of people out there with just a minor cough or no cough spreading this potentially fatal disease without knowing it,’ said Althouse. ‘The public health community should act now to better assess the true burden of pertussis infection.’ What’s worse, their model shows that if the disease can be spread through vaccinated, asymptomatic individuals essentially undetected, the level of vaccination needed to protect those that are unvaccinated (so-called ‘herd immunity’) is over 99 percent, an impossible feat at a time when more informed and educated parents are turning away from vaccination. Their results also suggest that a practice called cocooning, where mothers, fathers, and siblings are vaccinated to protect newborns, isn’t effective. ‘It just doesn’t work, because even if you get the acellular vaccine you can still become infected and can still transmit. So that baby is not protected,’ Althouse says. When It Comes To Vaccines, It’s One Of The Worst Offenders In Damaging Health The fact that many vaccines are ineffective is becoming increasingly apparent. Merck has recently been slapped with two separate class action lawsuits contending they lied about the effectiveness of the mumps vaccine in their combination MMR shot, and fabricated efficacy studies to maintain the illusion for the past two decades that the vaccine is highly protective. In 1993, The National Childhood Encephalopathy study: a 10-year follow-up reported on the medical, social, behavioural and educational outcomes after serious, acute, neurological illness in early childhood. The analysis found a four-fold increase in the estimated risk of encephalitis from the pertussis vaccine. The analysis showed the risk of encephalitis with the vaccine have been grossly underestimated. Diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and whole-cell pertussis vaccine (DTP) and pediatric diphtheria and tetanus toxoids (DT) are not recommended for individuals 7 years of age or older due to increased adverse reactions. Yet in 1994, a study in the Family Practice Research Journal found that children 7 years of age or older are inadvertently receiving DTP or DT and were unnecessarily experiencing adverse reactions. In another study in the The Journal of the American Medical Association, children vaccinated with pertussis vaccine were six times more likely to develop asthma. In 2004, a study in the British Medical Journal found that the prevalence of asthma and wheezing in non-vaccinated individuals was approximately 50% less at age 69-81 months than children who had 3 or more doses of with the Diptheria and tetanus vaccine. Researchers reported in the OSMA Journal that the pertussis vaccine may cause lasting and permanent brain damage. Physicians are required to warn all responsible parties of vaccine recipients that pertussis vaccine may cause “lasting brain damage”, but rarely if ever to Physicians inform parents of this fact. In the Journal of Pediatrics researchers found an association observed between the DTP vaccination of preterm infants and a transient increase or recurrence of apnea where they would stop breathing. New England Medical Journal reported in 2001 that the DTP vaccine increases the risk of febrile seizures fivefold on the day of vaccination and that there are significantly elevated risks. Several other research citations linking the DTP vaccines to disease causing complications in neurological systems, the central nervous system, sudden death, cervical lymphadenitis and convulsions. -
Proposed Military Strike on Syria
Steven Gaal replied to John Simkin's topic in Political Conspiracies
Syrian Christian leader tells West: 'Stop arming terror groups who are massacring our people' --------------- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db2_1435768710 ===================================================== The world leader of Syria's besieged Christians has issued a heartfelt plea to the West to "stop arming and supporting terrorist groups that are destroying our countries and massacring our people." The Patriarch of Antioch, Moran Mor Ignatius Aphrem II, said he was not asking the West for military intervention to defend Christians. If the West wants to do something about the present crisis, the most effective thing would be to support local governments, which need sufficient armies and forces to maintain security and defend respective populations against attacks. "State institutions need to be strengthened and stabilised. Instead, what we see is their forced dismemberment being fuelled from the outside," he told Vatican Insider. Patriarch Aphrem, head of the Syrian Orthodox Church, said the most blasphemous thing a person can do is to call suicide bombers "martyrs". "Throughout its journey through history the Church has also been a suffering Church," he added. Speaking in the days after meeting the Pope in Rome, he had just returned from Qamishli, his home town, where he met thousands of new Christian refugees who fled after Islamic State jihadists attacked Hassake, in Jazira province. Islamic State terrorists who die while carrying out their atrocities regard such deaths as martyrdom. They believe it secures them passage to paradise. The Patriarch contradicted this view. He said: "Martyrdom is not a sacrifice offered to God, like those sacrifices which are offered to pagan gods. Christian martyrs do not seek martyrdom to demonstrate their faith. And they do not wilfully shed their blood in order to obtain God's favour or some other prize, like Paradise." Along with bishops of his church he recently had talks with President Assad of Syria. "President Assad urged us to do everything in our hands to prevent Christians from leaving Syria. 'I know you are suffering,' he said, 'but please don't leave this land, which has been your home for thousands of years, even before Islam came.' He said that Christians will also be needed when the time comes to rebuild this devastated country." He said the majority of Syrian citizens support Assad's government and have always supported it. "We recognise legitimate rulers and pray for them, as the New Testament teaches us. We also see that on the other side there is no democratic opposition, only extremist groups. Above all, we see that in the past few years, these groups have been basing their actions on an ideology that comes from the outside, brought here by preachers of hatred who have come from and are backed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt. These groups receive arms through Turkey too, as the media have shown us." He said Islamic State was not the Islam that Syrians have learned about andlived alongside for hundreds of years. "There are forces that fuel it with arms and money because it is useful in what Pope Francis calls the 'war fought piecemeal'. But all this also draws on a perverse religious ideology that claims to be inspired by the Koran." Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db2_1435768710#7hwuw3cEAb0FCxEZ.99 Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db2_1435768710#7hwuw3cEAb0FCxEZ.99 -
Thousands of jobs lost in UK http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/thousands-jobs-lost-uk/ )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Rule Britannia (With lyric annotations) (nvevvvevevevery shall be slaves la de de da da bump bump ect) http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yHNfvJc99YY
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History of Freedom of Speech in the UK
Steven Gaal replied to John Simkin's topic in Political Conspiracies
Britain Using PsyOps Domestically to Encourage “Conformity” By Derrick Broze Global Research, June 26, 2015 The Anti-Media 24 June 2015 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to newly released documents published byThe Intercept, a special unit with the British spy agency is involved in psychological operations, or PsyOps, and propaganda campaigns against groups it labels “extremist.” The documents are the latest from the trove released by whistleblower Edward Snowden. The new documents show that the British Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) operates an elite unit known as the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG). First revealed last year, JTRIG is known for using sexual “honey traps” to discredit targets, using denial-of-service attacks to shut down Internet chat rooms, and generally pushing propaganda on social media. Despite official claims that JTRIG is focused on international targets in Iran or Afghanistan, the latest information reveals that the unit was focusing on domestic activity within the U.K.—activity typically monitored by local police or domestic law enforcement agencies. The Intercept reports: An August 2009 JTRIG memo entitled ‘Operational Highlights’ boasts of ‘GCHQ’s first serious crime effects operation’ against a website that was identifying police informants and members of a witness protection program. Another operation investigated an Internet forum allegedly ‘used to facilitate and execute online fraud.’ The document also describes GCHQ advice provided ‘to assist the UK negotiating team on climate change.’ Particularly revealing is a fascinating 42-page document from 2011 detailing JTRIG’s activities. It provides the most comprehensive and sweeping insight to date into the scope of this unit’s extreme methods. Entitled ‘Behavioral Science Support for JTRIG’s Effects and Online HUMINT [Human Intelligence] Operations,’ it describes the types of targets on which the unit focuses, the psychological and behavioral research it commissions and exploits, and its future organizational aspirations. It is authored by a psychologist, Mandeep K. Dhami. The documents (Behavioural Science Support for JTRIG’S Effects and Online HUMINT Operations,U.K. Ministry Stakeholder Relationships Spreadsheets) outline tactics employed by the agency, including ways to manipulate public opinion, understand human thinking and behavior, and encourage conformity. According to the documents, JTRIG “currently collaborates with other agencies,” including the Metropolitan police, the Security Service (MI5), the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA), the Border Agency, Revenue and Customs (HMRC), and the National Public Order and Intelligence Unit (NPOIU). One of JTRIG’s objectives includes “monitoring ‘domestic extremist groups such as the English Defence League by conducting online HUMINT’; ‘denying, deterring or dissuading’ criminals and ‘hacktivists’; and ‘deterring, disrupting or degrading online consumerism of stolen data or child porn.” One of the reports from 2011 outlines JTRIG’s tactics, including uploading YouTube videos containing “persuasive communications,” starting Facebook groups and Twitter accounts, and creating fake online personalities and supporters “to discredit, promote distrust, dissuade, deter, delay or disrupt.” JTRIG also relies on an understanding of psychology which is “critical” to operations. The unit used social media campaigns to encourage and foster “obedience” and “conformity”. Section 3.6 Obedience, says compliance can be achieved by “engendering liking (attractiveness); instilling a sense of scarcity or secrecy; getting compliance to a small request at first.” Essentially, the U.K. government is using an elite unit of spies to launch psychological operations on “extremists” by creating fake accounts and videos to promote conformity and obedience. However, the practice is not exclusive to the U.K.. PsyOps are used by nations around the world. The 2002 edition of the Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms defines psychological operations as integrated employment of the core capabilities of electronic warfare, computer network operations, psychological operations, military deception, and operations security, in concert with specified supporting and related capabilities, to influence, disrupt, corrupt or usurp adversarial human and automated decision making while protecting our own. Since that time, PsyOp has fallen out of favor and the term is now officially known as Military Information Support Operations, or MISO. It is defined as Planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals in a manner favorable to the originator’s objectives. The United States military was famously caught using psychological operations in 2011, when Rolling Stone reported that “the U.S. Army illegally ordered a team of soldiers specializing in ‘psychological operations’ to manipulate visiting American senators into providing more troops and funding for the war.” Indeed, the operations seem crucial to the mission of the United States government (and totalitarian governments around the globe, for that matter). According to the leaked U.S. Special Forces counterinsurgency manual: PSYOP [Psychological Operations] are essential to the success of PRC [Population & Resources Control]. For maximum effectiveness, a strong psychological operations effort is directed toward the families of the insurgents and their popular support base. The PSYOP aspect of the PRC program tries to make the imposition of control more palatable to the people by relating the necessity of controls to their safety and well-being. PSYOP efforts also try to create a favorable national or local government image and counter the effects of the insurgent propaganda effort. Without a doubt, the U.S. government continues to label its own population “extremist” and is focusing its propaganda efforts domestically. The U.S. Special Forces Counterinsurgency Manual—as well as the new Snowden documents—should be required reading for all revolutionaries seeking to understand the tactics of the U.S. government. 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What happened to Fetzer?!?!?
Steven Gaal replied to Vince Palamara's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
MI = Military Industrial complex? yes, i can see this. It falls in line with Carl Oglesby's Yankee/Cowboy theory, which is one of the books i was weaned on. and now i'm going slowly through R Bartholomew's UT stuff - and THAT circle of shiny people - Dulles, Paines, et al. (the Cubans and Sturgis, Loran Hall...), I'm thinking that this flows pretty well with LBJ's interests. it's a blast working through all this. Wow, Oglesby is quite the place to start one's study. Count yourself very lucky to have found this wonderful book. Carl was my very first conspiracy friend (1973) and we remained very close until his sad death in 2011. My copy of his book is falling apart but I will never part with it. (lots of mushy stuff written on the inside makes it extra special). It really connected a lot of dots and is beautifully written. Carl was the only person I have ever known who actually spoke the same way he wrote: with brilliance and elegance. It's still hard for me to believe I can't just pick up the phone and discuss the state of the case, or our kids, or today's marriage equality decision. And Richard B was my first Austin conspiracy friend. His manuscript is full of info but needs a road map to keep all of the names straight. I have not read it in a very long time. Sad that the Rambler is lost, just in case it did have a connection. All the stuff in the backseat certainly suggests some connection to 11/22/63, even if not Ruth Paine's car. And who- and why- ripped out all the pages at the Liab? This case has more mystery than any novel could ever contrive. You can literally lose decades of your life studying it. Dawn Dawn, I'm so glad you you responded - I remember that I had seen in another thread that someone here knew Carl personally, and I've been dying to remember who it was (without coming out and asking). I've sent you a PM if you don't mind, as I left topic a bit in my ramblings of Carl Oglesby. --- Darn: Not sure what the deal is with the PM system here but did not receive one from you. My email address is dmeredith@austin.rr.com. Can you resend. Thanx. Always happy to chat about Carl. Yankee/Cowboy got posted here- the first several chapters- via he and I am John Simkin for scanning it many years ago, 06 I believe. Dawn DAWN Bartholomew did some great work http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v1n2/gtds_4.html (I quote it in my Dulles did it thread) The UT article is also great. I should have put in my Dulles thread that Rambler owner Wing taught a Dulles relative.,gaal -
Here is how a tin foil hat person thinks
Steven Gaal replied to Steven Gaal's topic in Political Conspiracies
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Prayer Man: A Memo to James Gordon
Steven Gaal replied to J. Raymond Carroll's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Oh FFS. Altgens 6 rubbish. During the same show, Buell Wesley Frazier was shown the same photo and identified the man-in-the-doorway as Lovelady, not Oswald. (Both these scenes were edited out of the A&E 5-part showing in the early 1990's. ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] How do we know that "Prayer Man" is not Billy Lovelady? Can Lovelady be seen somewhere else in that photo/film? --Tommy -
Prayer Man: A Memo to James Gordon
Steven Gaal replied to J. Raymond Carroll's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/T%20Disk/Third-Fourth%20Decade%20The/Item%2001.pdf ================ see pg 15 (PDF) pg 38 4th Decade not Oz in doorway gaal -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
she wrote in the "comments' section, "[G?]ATB in Fort Worth -- June 1962" ? // Graves No she didn't testify to that . She didn't say June in testimony. Only have the document . We just have the word from the FBI that documents are good. ,gaal see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307116 see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307094 -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Steven, "No testimony about FT Worth Test Record Card." What does FT Worth mean? Do you mean Fort Worth or Ft. Worth? See, mistakes are human, aren't they. Let me ask you, why in the world would the WC publish the Fort Worth Test Record Card information twice, Steve, when Oswald was given the test only once (in Fort Worth) and its broken-down results were incorporated into the 10/10/62 Dallas document? Ya gotta realize that the Dallas office didn't give Oswald a time-consuming GATB. Why? Because he'd already taken it only four months earlier in June. The only kind of "test" that the Dallas office gave him was an "Interests" checklist. Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham indicated that the broken-down GATB results on the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document were from the test Oswald had taken in Fort Worth in June, 1962. She did this by writing "[G?]ABT in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section. A few inches under that, where it asked for the current date, she wrote 10/10/62. Why do you think she or a Dallas co-worker wrote "[G?]ATB in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section of that document? Have you looked at the document? http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210b.htm --Tommy Let me ask you, why in the world would the WC publish the Fort Worth Test Record Card information twice, Steve, when Oswald was given the test only once (in Fort Worth) and its broken-down results were incorporated into the 10/10/62 Dallas document? // GRAVES ================================================================= ANSWER As I stated NO TESTIMONY OF TEST DATES , NO TESTIMONY FERIFYING [sIC] DOCUMENT Fort Worth Test Record Card .....FORGERY funny how they fiddled with the documents ...one called 2 other document 2A see below , ,did you even look at the documents ?? GAAL +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ =============================== http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 401 ==================== http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 402 -------------------- see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307094 = FORGERY BUREAU OF IMITATION FBI , gaal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham indicated that the GATB results on the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document were from the test Oswald had taken in Fort Worth in June, 1962. She did this by writing "[G?]ABT in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section. A few inches under that, where it asked for the current date, she wrote 10/10/62. The following is from her June 11, 1964, affidavit: 4. As it appears from the entries in my hand on the reverse side of Cunningham Exhibit No. 4, I recorded the fact that I obtained Oswald's "General Aptitude Test" battery results from the Fort Worth office of the Texas Employment Commission. I concluded after examining the GATB obtained from the Fort Worth office and after interviewing Oswald that because he was in great financial need for immediate employment, that I should classify him for clerical work and I noted on the face of the card the proper clerical code, being 1-X 4.9. [...] // GRAVES http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0212a.htm Cunningham Exhibit No. 4 not odd ball Cunningham Exhibit No.2 and Cunningham Exhibit No. 2A GAAL What time do you go to bed? I'm gonna have to start posting on this thread after you've gone to sleep because you keep replying while I'm still editing. Cunningham Exhibit No. 4: http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0212a.htm Oh and BTW-- FORGERY funny how they fiddled with the documents ...one called 2 other document 2A see below , ,did you even look at the documents ?? http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 401 http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 402 Steven, Do you ever test the links you've posted? Hint: The two above are "Not Found." See, mistakes are human, aren't they. You should have "proofread" them after you posted them. --Tommy And look! There's a 1 and a 1-A, too! I'm sure there's something very very evil about that. And the WC was very stupid too to publish such glaring proof of the FBI's forgeries, too! LOL http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm # 401 http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210b.htm # 402 == And the WC was very stupid too to publish such glaring proof of the FBI's forgeries, too! // GRAVES ================ see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307094 FBI CREATES FORGERIES NO TESTIMONY OF TEST DATES. I don't see June DATE 62 on Cunningham Exhibit No. 4 ,Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XIX # 405 ?? WHICH GRAVES CLAIMS PLEASE HIGHLIGHT, gaal -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Well to the lone nutters the FBI does not lie ,they are all good > ,gaal all good yup !! ,gaal see http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbis-suicide-letter-to-dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-dangers-of-unchecked-surveillance/5413775 <<<<< ############################################### US admits FBI falsified evidence to obtain convictions ... https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/20/hair-a20.html World Socialist Web Site Apr 20, 2015 - The US Justice Department and FBI have formally acknowledged that over a more than two-decade period before 2000, nearly every FBI ... -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Steven, "No testimony about FT Worth Test Record Card." What does FT Worth mean? Do you mean Fort Worth or Ft. Worth? See, mistakes are human, aren't they. Let me ask you, why in the world would the WC publish the Fort Worth Test Record Card information twice, Steve, when Oswald was given the test only once (in Fort Worth) and its broken-down results were incorporated into the 10/10/62 Dallas document? Ya gotta realize that the Dallas office didn't give Oswald a time-consuming GATB. Why? Because he'd already taken it only four months earlier in June. The only kind of "test" that the Dallas office gave him was an "Interests" checklist. Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham indicated that the broken-down GATB results on the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document were from the test Oswald had taken in Fort Worth in June, 1962. She did this by writing "[G?]ABT in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section. A few inches under that, where it asked for the current date, she wrote 10/10/62. Why do you think she or a Dallas co-worker wrote "[G?]ATB in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section of that document? Have you looked at the document? http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210b.htm --Tommy Let me ask you, why in the world would the WC publish the Fort Worth Test Record Card information twice, Steve, when Oswald was given the test only once (in Fort Worth) and its broken-down results were incorporated into the 10/10/62 Dallas document? // GRAVES ================================================================= ANSWER As I stated NO TESTIMONY OF TEST DATES , NO TESTIMONY FERIFYING [sIC] DOCUMENT Fort Worth Test Record Card .....FORGERY funny how they fiddled with the documents ...one called 2 other document 2A see below , ,did you even look at the documents ?? GAAL +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ =============================== http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 401 ==================== http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 402 -------------------- see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307094 = FORGERY BUREAU OF IMITATION FBI , gaal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham indicated that the broken-down GATB results on the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document were from the test Oswald had taken in Fort Worth in June, 1962. She did this by writing "[G?]ABT in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section. A few inches under that, where it asked for the current date, she wrote 10/10/62. The following is from her June 11, 1964, affidavit: 4. As it appears from the entries in my hand on the reverse side of Cunningham Exhibit No. 4, I recorded the fact that I obtained Oswald's "General Aptitude Test" battery results from the Fort Worth office of the Texas Employment Commission. I concluded after examining the GATB obtained from the Fort Worth office and after interviewing Oswald that because he was in great financial need for immediate employment, that I should classify him for clerical work and I noted on the face of the card the proper clerical code, being 1-X 4.9. [...] // GRAVES http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0212a.htm Cunningham Exhibit No. 4 not odd ball Cunningham Exhibit No.2 and Cunningham Exhibit No. 2A GAAL What time do you go to bed? I'm gonna have to start posting on this thread after you've gone to sleep because you keep replying while I'm still editing. Cunningham Exhibit No. 4: http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0212a.htm YES I LOOK AT IT AND SEE NO JUNE DATE PLEAEE HIGHLIGHT FOR ME. gaal ==================================== -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Steven, "No testimony about FT Worth Test Record Card." What does FT Worth mean? Do you mean Fort Worth or Ft. Worth? See, mistakes are human, aren't they. Let me ask you, why in the world would the WC publish the Fort Worth Test Record Card information twice, Steve, when Oswald was given the test only once (in Fort Worth) and its broken-down results were incorporated into the 10/10/62 Dallas document? Ya gotta realize that the Dallas office didn't give Oswald a time-consuming GATB. Why? Because he'd already taken it only four months earlier in June. The only kind of "test" that the Dallas office gave him was an "Interests" checklist. Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham indicated that the broken-down GATB results on the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document were from the test Oswald had taken in Fort Worth in June, 1962. She did this by writing "[G?]ABT in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section. A few inches under that, where it asked for the current date, she wrote 10/10/62. Why do you think she or a Dallas co-worker wrote "[G?]ATB in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section of that document? Have you looked at the document? http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210b.htm --Tommy Let me ask you, why in the world would the WC publish the Fort Worth Test Record Card information twice, Steve, when Oswald was given the test only once (in Fort Worth) and its broken-down results were incorporated into the 10/10/62 Dallas document? // GRAVES ================================================================= ANSWER As I stated NO TESTIMONY OF TEST DATES , NO TESTIMONY FERIFYING DOCUMENT Fort Worth Test Record Card .....FORGERY funny how they fiddled with the documents ...one called 2 other document 2A see below , ,did you even look at the documents ?? ,gaal +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ =============================== http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 401 ==================== http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm WC XIX 402 -------------------- see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307094 = FORGERY BUREAU OF IMITATION FBI , gaal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham indicated that the broken-down GATB results on the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document were from the test Oswald had taken in Fort Worth in June, 1962. She did this by writing "[G?]ABT in Fort Worth -- June 1962" in the "comments" section. A few inches under that, where it asked for the current date, she wrote 10/10/62. The following is from her June 11, 1964, affidavit: 4. As it appears from the entries in my hand on the reverse side of Cunningham Exhibit No. 4, I recorded the fact that I obtained Oswald's "General Aptitude Test" battery results from the Fort Worth office of the Texas Employment Commission. I concluded after examining the GATB obtained from the Fort Worth office and after interviewing Oswald that because he was in great financial need for immediate employment, that I should classify him for clerical work and I noted on the face of the card the proper clerical code, being 1-X 4.9. [...] // GRAVES }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} NO TESTIMONY OF TEST DATES. I don't see June DATE 62 on Cunningham Exhibit No. 4 ,Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XIX # 405 ?? Cunningham Exhibit No. 4 not odd ball Cunningham Exhibit No.2 and Cunningham Exhibit No. 2A ,gaal -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Did Steven make a typo on the numbers 4/22 instead of 4/62? But that's impossible isn't it? If he wrote 4/22 he MUST mean, and there can be no other alternative explanation to this, he must mean that he is talking about April 1922. That's what he put so that's what it MUST be! He didn't simply make a mistake and put the wrong numbers though did he? No, of course not. Because no one ever does that do they? // LAVERICK =================================================== THE KEY IS THAT DATE CRAZY WC didn't ask date of FORT WORTH TESTS. LAVERICK HAS COMMITTED A THINKO see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307094 for forgery problems LHO employment records. , gaal -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
there is no such thing as human error (RE GAAL THINKING) // Parker Quote = the employment record == lots of made up stuff ... like golly ...... an alternate dimension (last phrased inspired by Parker) , gaal ================================================================== http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=10538.10;wap2below ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] The WC always went to far in their claims as they could have stopped at JDT and LHO were not acquainted, but they had to throw in the comment about them “never seeing each other.” Why say this when both men spent time in the Oak Cliff area? Also, they had to know of the FBI report dated July 31, 1964, that dealt with the possible links between LHO and Jack Ruby. In this report they could see the words of Dobbs House waitress Mary Dowling. On December 6, 1963, Mary Adda Dowling….professed to recognize pictures of Oswald as a person who had eaten at the restaurant usually between 7:00 and 7:30 AM. She related she recalled the person now recognized as Oswald was last seen by her in the restaurant at about 10:00 AM, Wednesday, November 20, 1963, at which time he was "nasty" and used curse words in connection with his order. She went on to relate that Officer J. D. Tippit was in the restaurant, as was his habit at about that time each morning, and "shot a glance at Oswald." She said there was no indication, however, that they knew each other. (CE 3001, p. 2) The WC went too far and this evidence bites them in the rear as this shows they did see each other on the morning of November 20, 1963, so their claim is false. It is true that the FBI did not immediately inform the WC of this evidence, but still they had time to learn about it before the final copy of the WCR came out in September. Ms. Dowling’s comments are corroborated by another Dobbs House waitress, Mrs. Delores Harrison, when she told the FBI the following later on in CE 3001. Mrs. Dolores Harrison advised she had been employed as a waitress at the Dobbs House for approximately six years. She stated that during the latter months of 1963, specific dates unrecalled, Lee Harvey Oswald came into the Dobbs House numerous times. Mrs. Harrison related that on November 21, 1963 she recalls Oswald having been in the Dobbs House for breakfast, specific time unrecalled. She stated she recalls this particular occasion, inasmuch as Oswald had ordered "eggs over light" and, when served, made a complaint that the eggs were "cooked too hard." Mrs. Harrison advised [that] she prepared Oswald's eggs and Mary Dowling, a waitress, served same to him. She related that, although Oswald complained of the eggs, he accepted them. She related [that] although she saw Oswald at the Dobbs House a number of times, she did not know his identity until seeing his picture in the newspaper as being the accused assassin of President Kennedy. Mrs. Harrison advised she has never seen Jack L. Ruby at the Dobbs House at any other location; she has no knowledge of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, or of any connections between Ruby and Oswald. (CE 3001, p. 520) Despite this statement matching Ms. Dowling’s the FBI did not ask her if JDT was present. It seems the reason these statements were ignored by the both the FBI and the WC was due to Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) records showing LHO began work at 8:00 a.m. on November 20, 1963, and stayed his full eight hours. This must have lead them to believe that LHO could NOT be eating eggs at Dobbs House restaurant between 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. and still be at work by 8:00 a.m. If we use that logic then how could LHO have have been arrested and jailed when the same timesheet record shows he worked a FULL EIGHT-HOUR DAY ON November 22, 1963 as well!? (THE FBI CREATES LHO EMPLOYMENT FORGERIES,GAAL) CE 1949, p. 6: Perhaps Mary Dowling was a little off on the time or perhaps the time keeping at the TSBD was a little lax, but this explanation does NOT disqualify what both waitresses saw on the morning of November 20, 1963. Neither the FBI nor the WC bothered to investigate if JDT and LHO may have been at the restaurant on other occasions as well. What were they afraid of finding out? The WCR did NOT have to state they had NEVER seen each other so we have to be suspicious based on this evidence. What we see here is a pattern the WC used over and over again—first they ignored, discounted or omitted information that did not fit their preconceived theory, and secondly, they just denied that this information even existed. We cannot state that JDT and LHO had NEVER seen each other so the claim by the WC is false. We again see evidence in the twenty-six volumes sinks the conclusion (and claims) of the WC, thus, they are sunk. ---.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307017 showing that there are document problems regarding LHO employment. from previous post •LHO timesheets (that's plural) from the TSBD seems and out and out forgery*. Seems they were written in one sitting. (Like the LHO historical diary). Many problems LHO employment record. gaal •----------------------------------------------------- * forgery (a beloved word of Anti-H & L people) , gaal -
Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong
Steven Gaal replied to Robin Ramsay's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
So what if Jenner didn't ask Brooks about the date that Oswald had taken the "ATB" / "GATB" test in Fort Worth? Brooks wasn't the Dallas TEC employee who had requested those results from Fort Worth. Helen P. Cunningham was. And there was no need to ask anyone about it anyway, because Cunningham had written on the document "[G]ATB in Fort Worth -- JUNE 1962." // GRAVES ================================================================================================================================================== Date crazy WC does not talk about Fort Worth test date No testimony about FT Worth Test Record Card Test Record Card is all we have to counter problem you stated :--Graves re Texas Employment Commission document of LHO >>>>>>>> So, what does the "4/62" stand for on the page, above? Is it a typo for "4/63"? Unlikely, because it's written twice. <<<<<<<< see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=307017 showing that there are document problems regarding LHO employment. LHO timesheets (that's plural) from the TSBD seems and out and out forgery*. Seems they were written in one sitting. (Like the LHO historical diary). Many problems LHO employment record. gaal ----------------------------------------------------- * forgery (a beloved word of Anti-H & L people) ,gaal