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CUNNINGHAM/ BROOKS TESTIMONY
DATES HERE DATES THERE, DATES & DATES EVERYWHERE .. BUT NO QUESTION DATE FORT WORTH TESTS > WHERE IS THAT QUESTION ?????????????? gaal
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--Graves re Texas Employment Commission document of LHO
>>>>>>>> So, what does the "4/62" stand for on the page, above? Is it a typo for "4/63"? Unlikely, because it's written twice. <<<<<<<<
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GOLLY GEE (and as GRAVES SAYS WOW !!), gaal
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Testimony Of Donald E. Brooks=
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/brooks.htm
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Mr. JENNER. By the way, was this form E-13, made up in your office or made up in some other office?
Mr. BROOKS. The original must have been made up in my office. That is usually the procedure, actually.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall whether you made inquiry of the Fort Worth office as to whether they had what you call this ATB?
Mr. BROOKS. This is something--oh, you mean, test records?
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mr. BROOKS. No, sir; I didn't, I am sure of this. The other office, Mrs. Cunningham, might have, but I didn't. -
Kiss It Goodbye: 150 Pensions Under Water
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Common Chemicals May Trigger Cancer
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http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940404000173
A global taskforce of 174 scientists from leading research centers across 28 countries studied the link between mixtures of commonly encountered chemicals and the development of cancer.
The study selected 85 chemicals not considered carcinogenic to humans and found 50 supported key cancer-related mechanisms at exposures found in the environment today.
Read more: at above link
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BTW, what about your earlier post on this thread in which you said (in red-colored font) that a particular WC document about Oswald's alleged April, 1962, dealings with the Texas Employment Commission could be found in "on page 491 Volume 19 (WarrenVolumes)" [sic] ? Where did you get that bad information? Harvey and Lee ? Or was it just carelessness on your part? // GRAVES
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[iT WAS A] QUOTE FROM H & L .
The employment document does have 4/22 written on it , as you Mr. Graves note. GAAL
Dear Steven,
I've highlighted your little mistake, above, in bold red to make it really easy for you to find.
You probably meant to write 4/62, instead. Right?
Or do you really think that Harvey or Lee went into the Texas Employment Commission in April of 1922?
--Tommy
YES 4/62 ,gaal
see http://educationforu...=19762&p=306816 FOR 4/62 marking re FORT WORTH TESTS
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Graves re Texas Employment Commission document of LHO
>>>>>>>> So, what does the "4/62" stand for on the page, above? Is it a typo for "4/63"? Unlikely, because it's written twice. <<<<<<<<
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GRAVES SAYS
Also note that "[?]ATB IN FORT WORTH -- JUNE 1962" is written on the part of the 10/10/62 Dallas TEC document called the "Test Record Card" and includes the broken-down results from Oswald's "ATB" test.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210b.htm
(WHO WAS PUT UNDER OATH TO VERIFY THIS MINOX CAMER AAAAh ah ah LIGHT METER DOCUMENT ? ANSWER ZERO !!!
Counseling Record Card is not Test Record Card,gaal)
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Golly he took tests in April 62 in Ft worth. No question or answer of Fort Worth TEST DATE, gaal
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Killing With Impunity
The Fifteen Most Outrageous Responses by Police After Killing Unarmed People
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by BILL QUIGLEY
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Police kill a lot of unarmed people. So far in 2015, as many as 100 unarmed people have been killed by police. Here are fifteen of the most outrageous reasons given by police to justify killing unarmed people in the last twelve months.
First, a bit of background. So far in 2015, there have been around 400 fatal police shootings already; one in six of those killings, 16 percent, were of unarmed people, 49 had no weapon at all and 13 had toys, according to the Washington Post. Of the police killings this year less than 1 percent have resulted in the officer being charged with a crime. The Guardian did a study which included killings by Tasers and found 102 people killed by police so far in 2015 were unarmed and that unarmed Black people are twice as likely to be killed by police as whites.
One. He was Dancing in the Street and Walking with a Purpose. On June 9, 2015 an unarmed man, Ryan Bollinger, was shot by police in Des Moines after “walking with a purpose” towards the police car after he exited his vehicle after a low speed chase started when he was observed dancing in the street and behaving erratically. The deceased was shot by the police through the rolled up cruiser window. The murder is under investigation.
Two. Thought It Was My Taser. An unarmed man, Eric Harris, ran from the police in Tulsa Oklahoma on April 2, 2015. After he was shot in the back by a Taser by one officer and was on the ground, another 73 year old volunteer reserve officer shot and killed him, all captured by video. While dying he was yelling that he was losing his breath, to which one of the officers responded “F*ck your breath.” The police said the officer thought he was shooting his Taser and “inadvertently discharged his service weapon.” The officer has been charged with second degree manslaughter. Running away from the police so often provokes police overreaction that the aggressive police response has several names including the “foot tax” and the “running tax.”
Three. Naked Man Refused to Stop. A naked unarmed mentally ill Air Force Afghanistan veteran, Anthony Hill, was shot and killed March 9, 2015 by DeKalb County Georgia police after police said he refused an order to stop. The killing is under investigation.
Four. Not Going to Say. On March 6, 2015 Aurora Colorado police shot and killed unarmed Naeschylus Vinzant while taking him into custody. For the last three months, while the investigation into the killing continues, the police have refused to say what compelled the officer to shoot Vinzant.
Five. Five Police Felt Threatened by One Unarmed Homeless Man. March 1, 2015 Los Angeles police shot and killed an unarmed homeless man Charly Leundeu Keunang after five officers went to his tent and struggled with him. One unarmed homeless man threatened five armed LAPD officers? Los Angeles police have killed about one person a week since 2000. An investigation is ongoing.
Six. My Taser Didn’t Work. On February 23, 2015, an unarmed man, Daniel Elrod, was shot twice in the back and once in the shoulder and killed by Omaha Nebraska police after he tried to climb a tree and jump a fence to escape police who suspected him of robbery. Police said their Taser did not work, he ignored their demands to get down on the ground, he did not show his hands, and they felt threatened. Video was not made available and the officer later resigned. This was the second person this officer killed. No criminal charges were filed.
Seven. Armed with a Broom. Lavall Hall’s mother called the police in Miami Gardens February 15, 2015 and asked for help for her son who was mentally ill. Lavall Hall, five foot four inches tall, walked outside with a broom and was later shot and killed by police who said he failed to comply with instructions and engaged them with an object. The killing is still under investigation.
Eight. Throwing Rocks. On February 10, 2015 an unarmed man, Antonio Zambrano-Montes, was fired at 17 times and killed by police in Kennewick, Washington. A video of his killing has been viewed more than 2 million times. Officers said he had been throwing rocks at cars, ran away and then turned around.
Nine. Taser Worked but He Didn’t Stop Moving. On February 2, 2015, a Hummelstown Pennsylvania police officer shot unarmed David Kassick in the back with a Taser and when Kassick went to the ground on his stomach, then shot him twice with her gun in the back, killing him. The officer said Kassick, who was running away from a traffic stop, was told to show his hands and not move but continued to try to remove the Taser prongs from his back and the officer thought he was reaching for a gun. The officer has been charged with homicide.
Ten. Car going 11 Miles an Hour was going to Kill Me. Denver police fired 8 times at unarmed Jessica Hernandez, 17, who was killed January 16 after being hit by four bullets. The police said she drove too close to them when she was trying to get away and may have tried to run them down as she tried to drive away so they shot into the windshield and driver’s windows. The police said the car may have reached 11 miles per hour in the 16 feet it traveled before hitting a fence. The police were not charged.
Eleven. Armed with a Spoon. Dennis Grigsby, an unarmed mentally ill man holding a soup spoon, was shot in the chest and killed in a neighbor’s garage by Texarkana Police December 15, 2015. The killing is under investigation.
Twelve. Armed with Prescription Bottle. Rumain Brisbon, a 34 year old unarmed man, was shot twice and killed by police in Phoenix on December 2, 2014, after he ran away, was caught and was in a struggle with the officer who mistook a prescription pill bottle in Brisbon’s pocket for a gun. The police officer was not charged.
Thirteen. It Was an Accident. On November 20, 2014, a New York City police officer fired into a stairwell and killed unarmed Akai Gurley. The officer, who was charged with manslaughter, is expected to say he accidently fired his gun.
Fourteen. Don’t Mention It. On November 12, 2014, an unarmed handcuffed inmate was shot multiple times in the head, neck, chest and arms by officers while fighting with another handcuffed inmate in the High Desert State Prison in Carson City Nevada. His family was not told and did not know he had been shot until three days later when they claimed his body at a mortuary.
Fifteen. Armed with Toy Gun. John Crawford was unarmed in a Walmart store in Beavercreek Ohio on August 4, 2014, when he picked up an unloaded BB gun. When officers arrived they say they ordered him to put down the gun and started shooting, hitting him at least twice and killing Mr. Crawford. In a widely viewed video Mr. Crawford can be seeing dropping the BB gun, running away and being shot while unarmed. Likewise, Cleveland police shot and killed an unarmed 12 year old boy, Tamir Rice, who was playing with a toy pellet gun on November 22, 2014. Police said they shouted verbal commands from inside their vehicle in the two seconds before they shot him twice. In both these cases, the police story of shouting warnings and orders looks quite iffy at best.
These are the responses of police authorities who face less than one chance in a hundred of being charged when they kill people, even unarmed people. These outrages demand massive change in the way lethal force is used, reported, justified and prosecuted.
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FBI SUPPLYING TRUE DOCUMENT FACTS AND THE REAL HISTORY BIO OF LHO = EQUALS = oil & WATER (THEY DONT MIX !!!!!!!!!!) // gaal
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pat speer
April 8, 2015 at 10:26 am
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Roy Truly’s testimony regarding the job application is slightly curious, IMO. Note that CE 496 is a copy, and not the original. Note that Truly refuses to say he recognizes the handwriting on the form as Oswald’s, and refuses to recognize the form as the one he gave Oswald to fill out. It seems from this he had some doubts about the form. Note also then that Belin doesn’t ask him if this is a copy of the form he supplied the ?????
Where was the original job app, and who gave the WC the copy of the original? Not the DPD. The only App in their files was the re-production. The FBI, then. I’ll keep looking until I find something in the FBI’s files acknowledging they acquired the job app and had someone double-check the handwriting to make sure it was Oswald’s, etc, the way they did with so many other documents.
Mr. BELIN. I hand you what has been marked Commission Exhibit No. 496, which appears to be a photostatic copy of a document, and I ask you to state if you know what that is.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 496 for identification.)
Mr. TRULY. This is a copy of the application blank that Oswald filled out. I am not familiar with his handwriting, because he didn’t do anything that we have records of. All the work that he ever did was put his number or something.
Mr. BELIN. Well, my first question is this: Is this particular form a form of your company?
Mr. TRULY. That is one form; yes. We changed it a little bit, and this might have been just one that I pulled out. I can’t recall whether it is the one we use now or the one we did use.
Mr. BELIN. Well, was this a form that you were using at about the time he came for employment?
Mr. TRULY. Yes.
(At this point, Representative Ford entered the hearing room.)
Mr. BELIN. Did you see him fill this out? Was it in your office or not?
Mr. TRULY. Yes. He was sitting opposite me, and he filled it out on my desk.
Mr. BELIN. He filled this Exhibit 496 out on your desk?
Mr. TRULY. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. At this time we offer in evidence Exhibit 496.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
pat speer
April 8, 2015 at 12:17 pm
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Sure enough, there is an FBI report indicating they acquired the original job app from the TSBD.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10406&relPageId=178
1. Note the date. The FBI scooped up the original job app before the DPD–who was at that time in charge of the case–could get a look at it.
2. Why did the FBI give the WC a copy?
3. What happened to the original? Is it still in the FBI’s files? (no Pat its in the Elm St round file,GAAL)
4. Does anyone know what happened to the TSBD’s files? The thought occurs that the copy retained by the TSBD might be different than the one entered into evidence as CE 496.
5. On the other hand, this report might help explain why the DPD had a reproduction and not a copy. IF the copy of the job app provided the TSBD when the FBI took the original was of poor quality, Det. Brian may have simply decided he was better off reproducting the app than asking the FBI for a decent copy. -
the WMCA radio host Barry Gray specifically told FBI that L'eandes and Rizzuto were definitely different people. FBI ignored this and made them the same person.// Albert Doyle
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Golly H & L crowd calls this a smoking gun. // gaal
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BTW, what about your earlier post on this thread in which you said (in red-colored font) that a particular WC document about Oswald's alleged April, 1962, dealings with the Texas Employment Commission could be found in "on page 491 Volume 19 (WarrenVolumes)" [sic] ? Where did you get that bad information? Harvey and Lee ? Or was it just carelessness on your part? // GRAVES
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[iT WAS A] QUOTE FROM H & L .
The employment document does have 4/22 written on it , as you Mr. Graves note. GAAL
Dear Steven,
I've highlighted your little mistake, above, in bold red to make it really easy for you to find.
You probably meant to write 4/62, instead. Right?
Or do you really think that Harvey or Lee went into the Texas Employment Commission in April of 1922?
--Tommy
YES 4/62 ,gaal
see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=306816
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Graves re Texas Employment Commission document of LHO
>>>>>>>>So, what does the "4/62" stand for on the page, above? Is it a typo for "4/63"? Unlikely, because it's written twice.<<<<<<<<=========================================
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now for something totally uplifting
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BTW, what about your earlier post on this thread in which you said (in red-colored font) that a particular WC document about Oswald's alleged April, 1962, dealings with the Texas Employment Commission could be found in "on page 491 Volume 19 (WarrenVolumes)" [sic] ? Where did you get that bad information? Harvey and Lee ? Or was it just carelessness on your part? // GRAVES
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IT WAS A QUOTE FROM H & L .
The employment document does have 4/22 written on it , as you Mr. Graves note. ,GAAL
http://www.history-m...Vol19_0210a.htm
So, what does the "4/62" stand for on the page, above? Is it a typo for "4/63"? Unlikely, because it's written twice.
In her testimony, Mrs. Cunningham of the Texas Employment Commission said the first time Oswald came in was on 10/9/62 or 10/10/62, so obviously he couldn't have been tested six months before that in April, 1962 (4/62) .
This shows his test scores and is dated 10/10/62.
http://www.history-m...Vol19_0208a.htm
--Tommy
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BTW, what about your earlier post on this thread in which you said (in red-colored font) that a particular WC document about Oswald's alleged April, 1962, dealings with the Texas Employment Commission could be found in "on page 491 Volume 19 (WarrenVolumes)" [sic] ? Where did you get that bad information? Harvey and Lee ? Or was it just carelessness on your part? // GRAVES
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QUOTE FROM H & L . The employment document does have 4/22 written on it , as you Mr. Graves note. ,GAAL
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21846&p=301404
Steve,
So that incorrect reference to "page 491 volume 19 (WarrenVolumes) [sic] was from Harvey and Lee ?
Too bad you didn't realize it was a bad WC reference before you posted it as though it was Gospel Truth from Harvey and Lee.
Makes one wonder how many other mistakes Armstrong made in that book.
--Tommy
PS Regarding your precious "4/62," Greg Parker has already pointed out to us that a 10/10/62 Texas Employment Commission document about Lee H. Oswald says "Date in Fort Worth -- June, 1962," which jibes with the date Oswald and family are known to have moved to Fort Worth from New Orleans. Greg rightly points out that Mrs. Cunningham of the Texas Employment Commission probably made a simple mistake when she wrote "4/62" instead of "6/62" (for June, 1962) on another 10/10/62 Texas Employment Commission document about Oswald. Please note that any other explanation makes no sense at all in the context of Cunningham's WC testimony (in which she says that Oswald first came into the Texas Employment Office "on 10/9/62 or 10/10/62"), as well as in the context of all the other dates listed on that document and all the other documents associated with it.
Anna Lewis says Feb 1962 is when see meets Lee Oswald... with ample opportunity to cut, retake, and get it right... she repeats, Jan-Apr 1962.... / JOSEPHS
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Garth Paltridge is a distinguished Australian climate scientist, who, in The Facts, pens a wise paragraph that I fear will be the epitaph of climate science:
We have at least to consider the possibility that the scientific establishment behind the global warming issue has been drawn into the trap of seriously overstating the climate problem—or, what is much the same thing, of seriously understating the uncertainties associated with the climate problem—in its effort to promote the cause. It is a particularly nasty trap in the context of science, because it risks destroying, perhaps for centuries to come, the unique and hard-won reputation for honesty which is the basis for society’s respect for scientific endeavour.
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Background
A biographical note states that Paltridge "is an atmospheric physicist and was a Chief Research Scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research before taking up positions in Tasmania as Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies and CEO of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre. He retired in 2002 and continues to live in Hobart. He is an Honorary Research Fellow at the University of Tasmania and a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University. His research ranged from the optimum design of plants to the economics of climate forecasting. He is best known internationally for work on atmospheric radiation and the theoretical basis of climate. He is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Science.
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BTW, what about your earlier post on this thread in which you said (in red-colored font) that a particular WC document about Oswald's alleged April, 1962, dealings with the Texas Employment Commission could be found in "on page 491 Volume 19 (WarrenVolumes)" [sic] ? Where did you get that bad information? Harvey and Lee ? Or was it just carelessness on your part? // GRAVES
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QUOTE FROM H & L . The employment document does have 4/22 written on it , as you Mr. Graves note. ,GAAL
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21846&p=301404
And NO ONE in the H & L camp checked out whether that date was correct or not. Why? Because that could mean finding something that negated its usefulness to this theory.
CAMP ?? I HAD LUNCH WITH HIM AT THE MEXICAN RESTURANT NEAR WERE THE LHO DRIVEN CAR WAS SPOTTED IN DALLAS . ONE LUNCH THATS ALL
NEVER HAD LETTERS, EMAILS OR PHONE CONTACTS WITH HIM.
GAAL
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BTW, what about your earlier post on this thread in which you said (in red-colored font) that a particular WC document about Oswald's alleged April, 1962, dealings with the Texas Employment Commission could be found in "on page 491 Volume 19 (WarrenVolumes)" [sic] ? Where did you get that bad information? Harvey and Lee ? Or was it just carelessness on your part? // GRAVES
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QUOTE FROM H & L . The employment document does have 4/22 written on it , as you Mr. Graves note. ,GAAL
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21846&p=301404
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In January, 1953, the House on Un-American Activities in New York had a file on a "Marguerite Oswald." This file contained references to 1941, Nazi's, New Jersey, and was eventually discovered in a CIA office of Security file. The Assassination Records Review Board requested this file, which apparently contained background information related to "Marguerite Oswald," but their request was denied.
http://harveyandlee.net/Early/Early.html
By sheer coincidence no doubt, the 1941 hearings were all about Nazi activity in New Jersey. One of the stenographers for the hearings was listed as Mrs. Oswald - no first name given.
So.... a cite from the H & L gang to help clear this up would be great....
Gaal Marguerite uncle's law partner was a United Fruit lawyer and she got a receptionist job at Standard Fruit pre WW II . Standard Fruit and United Fruit were at loggerheads till 1942. She may have been a United Fruit spy on Standard Fruit. United Fruit worked with ONI circa WWI. It could be Marguerite was a ONI asset against the NJ Nazis. (Per Linda Minor she also did date a number of Navy men). gaal (PS receptionist "CAN BE" good place for a spy)"
Steve, Didn't you mean to put an apostrophe and an "s" after the word "uncle"? Also, you wrote "Nazi" singular, so precisely which "NJ Nazi" are you talking about?
--Tommy
PS Your posts are hard enough to understand (as several people have mentioned) even without such boo-boos.
PPS So let me get this straight -- a law partner of Marguerite's uncle was a United Fruit lawyer, and she got a job as a receptionist at Standard Fruit? Wow.
And Holy Toledo, United Fruit worked with ONI circa WWI (which ended in 1918)? Wowie zowie.
Seems Marguerite was not connected to the House on Un-American Activities. She still could have been connected to ONI and this would explain the activity of her son.GAAL
United Fruit started working with ONI circa WWI and later WWII and probably past that time WOW !!
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Greg: JA is no guru. Unlike you he is a very nice person. I'm done here. We saw your agenda at DPF and got rid of you. So you and your followers make fun of DPF. Go for it dude. Some of us actually care about the assassination of JFK and what was done to frame LHO. I posted as I was walking out the door TO WORK/ Ya the job you seem to find so amusing. "Layer". I have the highest degree you can obtain, a JD. What do YOU do for a living when not stalking Albert Doyle. (Rhetorical question as I don't give a xxxx). Let's leave it at this: I don't think you care a damn about the truth. You can, of course, have the last word as I will not ever reply to you again.
I have the highest degree you can obtain, a JD. So the SJD isn't higher?
The S.J.D. is described as the "highest degree in law" by the University of Virginia, the "terminal degree in law" by Indiana Universityand Harvard Law School and as the "most advanced law degree" by Yale Law School, Georgetown Law, New York University ]and Stanford University. The National Association of Legal Professionals states that the J.S.D./S.J.D. is "typically the most advanced or terminal law degree that would follow the earning of the LL.M. and J.D. degrees."
However, some argue that the J.D. is the highest "professional doctorate" in law, on the grounds that some universities describe the S.J.D. as a "postdoctoral degree."and the American Bar Association has issued a Council Statement stating that the J.D. be considered as being equivalent to the Ph.D. for educational employment purposes.
Best Answer: A JD is a Juris Doctor, a Doctor of Law, which allows someone to sit on the bar exam, and is the basic degree that all lawyers have. The LL.M is the Legum Magister, Master of Laws, which requires a JD and is an advanced degree mostly theoretical in focus, which is usually only attained by those who want to teach law or want to become very specialized in a particular field. The JSD, the Juris Scientium Doctor, Doctor of the Science of Law, is equivalent to a PhD in law and usually requires an LLM to apply. It involves a dissertation mainly and is even more theory based than the LLM. An equivalent to the JSD in Europe is the LLD, Legum Doctor, Doctor of Laws, which is only awarded as an honorary degree in the US. There is also an MSL, a Master of Studies of Law, which does not require a JD and is intended as an introduction to formal legal education for those who do not want a professional legal degree. Yale's description of their various programs is very helpful.
Source(s):
http://www.law.yale.edu/outside/html/Aca...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_L...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_L... YAHOO
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IMHO GAAL below (take it from me 12 years college (couldn't make up my mind))
The JD is a specialized degree and really should be considered above BA and below Masters degree.
LLM is masters level
JSD (LLD) is PHd level
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In January, 1953, the House on Un-American Activities in New York had a file on a "Marguerite Oswald." This file contained references to 1941, Nazi's, New Jersey, and was eventually discovered in a CIA office of Security file. The Assassination Records Review Board requested this file, which apparently contained background information related to "Marguerite Oswald," but their request was denied.
http://harveyandlee.net/Early/Early.html
By sheer coincidence no doubt, the 1941 hearings were all about Nazi activity in New Jersey. One of the stenographers for the hearings was listed as Mrs. Oswald - no first name given.
So.... a cite from the H & L gang to help clear this up would be great....
Marguerite's uncle law partner was a United Fruit lawyer and she got a receptionist job at Standard Fruit pre WW II . Standard Fruit and United Fruit were at loggerheads till 1942. She may have been a United Fruit spy on Standard Fruit. United Fruit worked with ONI circa WWI. It could be Marguerite was a ONI asset against the NJ Nazi. (Per Linda Minor she also did date a number of Navy men). gaal (PS receptionist "CAN BE" good place for a spy)
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Steve,
I understand Landesberg said Perry was from Texas. What I don't see is an FBI document that says Earl Eugene Perry is from Texas. It looks to me like the FBI conducted a good investigation until they aborted because Landesberg recanted. They looked at about 4 different Earl Perrys by my count. I will look at all of this more closely when preparing my rebuttal article. Thanks for your help.
In April, 1962 LEE Harvey Oswald visited the Texas Employment Commission in Ft. Worth and filled out form E-40a, Aptitude Profile Test (APT) B-1002 and the Occupational Aptitude Pattern test (OAP). This document was printed on page 491 in volume 19 (WarrenVolumes). But when this document was filled out by LEE Harvey Oswald in Ft. Worth, HARVEY Oswald and his wife and daughter were living in Russia
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CANT WAIT TO READ IT, gaal
The document is not on page 491 of Volume XIX of the Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits. Where is it?
I wonder how well "Lee" scored on those tests?
What were his aptitudes?
What was his address at the time?
What kind of identification did he provide?
Did he have a driver's license?
--Tommy
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first look its CE 1389, p. 3; but see 2 H 338 (Peter P. Gregory). I haven't checked yet. GAAL
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says june http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pdf/wh22_ce_1389.pdf
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Adams, R. L. AD Placement interviewer, Texas Employment Commission. Vol. X, p. 136.
Vol. XI, p. 480.
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RON WEILLIAMS TIMELINE BASED ON H & L
Harvey and Marina married in Minsk
May 1961
Lee seen in Garland, Texas
Late 1961
Lee arrested in New Orleans
Dec 1961
Lee seen w/ Clay Shaw at Leeman's Baths in New Orleans
Late 1961
Lee meets Steve Landesberg in NY City
2/15/1962
June Marina Oswald born in Minsk, USSR
5/22/1962
Harvey, Marina, and June leave Minsk
April 1962
Lee tested at Texas Employment Commission (TEC)
6/13/1962
Harvey & family arrive in Hoboken, NJ
6/14/1962
Harvey & family arrive in Fort Worth
June 1962
Harvey registers at Texas Employment Comm
Summer62
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Steve,
I understand Landesberg said Perry was from Texas. What I don't see is an FBI document that says Earl Eugene Perry is from Texas. It looks to me like the FBI conducted a good investigation until they aborted because Landesberg recanted. They looked at about 4 different Earl Perrys by my count. I will look at all of this more closely when preparing my rebuttal article. Thanks for your help.
In April, 1962 LEE Harvey Oswald visited the Texas Employment Commission in Ft. Worth and filled out form E-40a, Aptitude Profile Test (APT) B-1002 and the Occupational Aptitude Pattern test (OAP). This document was printed on page 491 in volume 19 (WarrenVolumes). But when this document was filled out by LEE Harvey Oswald in Ft. Worth, HARVEY Oswald and his wife and daughter were living in Russia
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CANT WAIT TO READ IT, gaal
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GCHQ spying on rights groups ‘illegal’
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http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/gchq-spying-rights-groups-illegal/
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You Know The Economy Is Bad When Thrift Stores Start Closing
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America’s third-world government dumps fluoride in drinking water
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Steve,
The document you mention doesn't say anything about Perry being from Texas. There are no citations in Armstrong's article so I don't know where he is getting his information from. There is a connection to Barstow CA since that is where Perry was stationed and Landesberg did mention that in one instance. My guess is that the FBI were pursuing any and all Perrys but did not complete their investigation since Landesberg recanted his allegations. I don't see the same sinister implications that Armstrong does here. I will look at this closer when I do my rebuttal article.
Mr. Parnell you asked (in post # 663 above) a first question about the middle name,gaal // QUOTE PARNELL You'll have to get me a citation on where "Rizzuto" (who was Landesberg btw) said that "Earl Eugene Perry" was an acquaintance of Oswald and "L'Eandes". All I see is that he said "Earl Perry". // END PARNEL QUOTE
Mr. Parnell the answer was already given in my post # 661 above. (see PDF in post # 661) // gaal
PG 153 of above pdf talks about FBI getting info from NY and RIZZUTO and FBI MAN NICHOLS GETS name "Earl Eugene Perry".
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IN POST # 665 Mr. Parnell asked a second question which was for the TEXAS REFERENCE.
PARNELL QUOTE // in Armstrong's article so I don't know where he is getting his information from (RE TEXAS), gaal
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THE TEXAS INFO IS FROM ARMSTRONG WHICH YOU YOURSELF Mr.PARNELL HAVE ALREADY SITED IN YOUR FIRST REBUTTAL ARTICLE ????. // gaal
FBI File Number DL 89-43, 1963, Baylor University Poage Library, John Armstrong Collection, http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/42754.
The following day FBI agents interviewed James F. Rizzuto (Landesberg, the student) at their NY office. Rizzuto said that he met Steve L'eandes (the actor), Earl Perry, and Lee Oswald in the Marine Corps at Camp LeJeune and Barstow, CA in the summer of 1956 (Landesberg, the actor, was 19 years old in the summer of 1956 and perhaps in the military). Rizzuto said that he kept in touch with L'eandes (the actor), Oswald, and Perry, who lived in El Paso, TX. (Armstrong Landesberg article)
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Rizzuto mentioned TEXAS, NOW FBI MAN LEWIS JUST HAS TO LOOK UP TEXAS EARL PERRYS , BUT FBI MAN LEWIS just looks up Wyoming EARL Perry (THEY DIDNT LOOK UP TEXAS PERRY and THIS SHOWS COVERUP)
gaal
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Steve Gaal said:
The FBI avoided contacting Earl Eugene Perry from El Paso, who was mentioned as an acquaintance of Oswald and L'eandes (the actor) by James Rizzuto
You'll have to get me a citation on where "Rizzuto" (who was Landesberg btw) said that "Earl Eugene Perry" was an acquaintance of Oswald and "L'Eandes". All I see is that he said "Earl Perry".
Mr. Parnell the answer was already given in my post # 661 above. (see PDF in post # 661) // gaal
PG 153 of above pdf talks about FBI getting info from NY and RIZZUTO and FBI MAN NICHOLS GETS name "Earl Eugene Perry".
Are not the FBI men supposed to think on their feet ??
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Rizzuto mentioned TEXAS, NOW FBI MAN LEWIS JUST HAS TO LOOK UP TEXAS EARL PERRYS BUT FBI MAN LEWIS just looks up Wyoming EARL Perry (THEY DIDNT LOOK UP TEXAS PERRY and THIS SHOWS COVERUP)
gaal
Prayer Man: A Memo to James Gordon
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
A recent poll on the ROKC site found that 80% identify Prayer Man as Lee Oswald.// CARROLL
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THATS IT, PRAYERMAN IS Lovelady holding binoculars // gaal ( I suspect that in general its best to go opposite consensus at ROKC site for the truth.)