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As far as the 3835 code is concerned, I emailed the Ebay seller Bernie and others were talking about and got this reply:
That is a navy location code.
My list of the codes does not include this number, so I do not know where it was located.
For instance, navy #10 is Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. I wish I knew where #3835 was located.So what we seem to need is an expert on reading military records to get to the bottom of this. I will say this-you would think with all the resources and helpers Armstrong had, he would have figured this out. Or maybe he did and the answer was not helpful to his thesis. // Parnell
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THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF SAN FRANCISCO (NOT UNDER ARMSTRONG CONTROL)
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http://www.archives.gov/san-francisco/finding-aids/holdings-guide-08.html
The records relate to the management of physical facilities, real property, and utilities, and to the military government of American Samoa. Included are correspondence, issuances, logs, and reports.
Records of the following Naval Air Stations (NAS), Naval Air Centers (NAC), and Naval Air Facilities (NAF):
NAC 140, Espiritu Santo, New Hebrides Islands, 1943-1945
NAF 131, Noumea, New Caledonia, 1943-1945
NAC/NAF 145, Guadalcanal Island, Solomon Islands, 1943-1945
NAS 309, Palmyra Island, Line Islands, 1939-1947
NAF 807, Ebeye Island, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, 1944-1947
NAF 825, Roi Island, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, 1946
NAF 875, Oppama, Honshu, Japan, 1950-1961
NAS 939, Orote, Guam, Mariana Islands, 1945-1949
NAS 943, Agana, Guam, Mariana Islands, 1944-1960
NAS 955, Iwakuni, Honshu, Japan, 1952-1953
NAS 958, Kagman Point, Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands, 1944-1947
NAS 961, Sangley Point, Luzon, Philippines, 1945-1949
NAF 1175, Naha, Okinawa, Ryukyu Islands, Japan, 1945-1952
NAF 1301, Canton Island, Phoenix Islands, 1943-1946 [now part of Kiribati]
NAS 3220, Emirau Island, St. Matthias Islands, Bismarck Archipelago, 1944-1945
NAS 3245, Tanapag, Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands, 1946-1950
NAF 3247, Tinian, Northern Mariana Islands, 1946-1947
NAF 3410, Moen Island, Truk Atoll, Caroline Islands, 1943-1947
NAS 3835, Atsugi, Honshu, Japan, 1950-1955<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<CASE CLOSED , not helpful to Purnell thesis. (GAAL) -
2. The chronology actually STOPS at the point of Oswald entering the military in 1956 - so there is NO godamn information there to change re military records, and // PARKER
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? no chronology does not stop at entering Marines = PARKER needs correction // Gaal
MARINES
On October 26, 1956, Lee Harvey Oswald reported for duty at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, Calif., where he was assigned to the Second Recruit Training Battalion.293 He was 68 inches tall and weighed 135 pounds; he had no physical defects.294 On October 30, he took a series of aptitude tests, on which he scored significantly above the Marine Corps average in reading and vocabulary and significantly below the average in tests in arithmetic and pattern analysis. His composite general classification score was 105, 2 points below the Corps average. He scored near the bottom of the lowest group in a radio code test.295 His preference of duty was recorded as Aircraft Maintenance and Repair, the duty assignment for which he was recommended.296While he was at San Diego, Oswald was trained in the use of the M-1 rifle.297 His practice scores were not very good,298 but when his company fired for record on December 21, he scored 212, 2 points above the score necessary to qualify as a "sharpshooter" on a marksman/sharpshooter/expert scale.299 He did not do nearly as well when
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he fired for record again shortly before he left the Marines.300 He practiced also with a riot gun and a .45-caliber pistol when he was in the Marines but no scores were recorded.301
Oswald was given a 4.4 rating in both "conduct" and "proficiency" at the Recruit Depot, the highest possible rating being 5.0 and an average rating of 4.0 being required for an honorable discharge.302 On January 18, 1957, he reported to Camp Pendleton, Calif., for further training and was assigned to "A" Company of the First Battalion, Second Infantry Training Regiment.303 He was at Pendleton for a little more than 5 weeks, at the end of which he was rated 4.2 in conduct and 4.0 in proficiency.304 Allen R. Felde, a fellow recruit who was with Oswald at San Diego and Pendleton, has stated that Oswald was generally unpopular and that his company was avoided by the other men.305 When his squad was given its first weekend leave from Pendleton, all eight men took a cab to Tijuana, Mexico. Oswald left the others and did not rejoin them until it was time to return to camp. Felde said that this practice was repeated on other trips to Los Angeles; Oswald accompanied the men on the bus to and from camp but did not stay with them in the city.306 On February 27, he went on leave for 2 weeks,307 during which he may have visited his mother in Fort Worth.308
On March 18, he reported to the Naval Air Technical Training Center at the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, Fla.309 For the next 6 weeks he attended an Aviation Fundamental School, in which he received basic instruction in his specialty, including such subjects as basic radar theory, map reading, and air traffic control procedures.310 This course, as well as his next training assignment at Keesler Air Force Base, required Oswald to deal with confidential material.311 He was granted final clearance up to the "confidential" level on May 3, "after [a] careful check of local records had disclosed no derogatory data." 312 He completed the course on the same day, ranking 46th in a class of 54 students.313 On the previous day, he had been promoted to private, first class, effective May 1.314 At Jacksonville, he received ratings of 4.7 in conduct and 4.5 in proficiency, the highest ratings he ever attained.315
Oswald left for Keesler Air Force Base in Biloxi, Miss., on the day his course was completed; 316 he traveled, probably by overnight train, in a group of six marines led by Pfc. Daniel P. Powers, the senior marine in charge.317 At Keesler, he attended the Aircraft Control and Warning Operator Course, which included instruction in aircraft surveillance and the use of radar.318 Powers was not sure whether he had met Oswald before the trip to Biloxi 319 but remembers him there as "a somewhat younger individual less matured than the other boys," who "was normally outside the particular group of marines that were in this attachment to Keesler." 320 (Oswald was in fact 3 years younger than Powers.) 321 Powers testified that Oswald had the nickname "Ozzie Rabbit." 322 Oswald generally stayed to himself, often read-
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ing; he did not play cards or work out in the gym with the others.323 He spent his weekends alone, away from the base; Powers thought he left Biloxi and perhaps went "home" to New Orleans, less than 100 miles away.324 He finished the course seventh in a class of 30 marines on June 17,325 and on June 25, was given an MOS (military occupational specialty) of Aviation Electronics Operator.326 On June 20, he went on leave,327 possibly visiting his mother.328 His ratings at Keesler were 4.2 in conduct. and 4.5 in proficiency,329 which Powers thought was "pretty good." 330
On July 9, Oswald reported at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro, Calif., near Santa Ana.331 He was classified as a replacement trainee and attached to the Fourth Replacement Battalion.332 Six weeks later, on August 22, he departed from San Diego for Yokosuka, Japan, on board the U.S.S. Bexar.333 Powers testified that while on board, Oswald taught him to play chess, which they played frequently, sometimes for more than 4 hours a day.334 Like most of the men on board, Oswald read a lot from the books which were available. Powers thought he read "a good type of literature," remembering in particular Whitman's "Leaves of Grass." 335
The Bexar docked at Yokosuka on September 12.336 Oswald was assigned to Marine Air Control Squadron No. 1 (MACS-1), Marine Air Group 11, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing, based at Atsugi, about 20 miles west of Tokyo.337 Oswald was a radar operator in MACS-1, which had less than 100 men.338 Its function was to direct aircraft to their targets by radar, communicating with the pilots by radio.339 The squadron had also the duty of scouting for incoming foreign aircraft, such as straying Russian or Chinese planes, which would be intercepted by American planes.340
On October 27, when Oswald opened his locker to remove some gear, a derringer .22 caliber pistol fell to the floor and discharged; the bullet hit him in the left elbow.341 Paul Edward Murphy, a fellow marine who was in the next cubicle, heard the shot, rushed in, and found Oswald sitting on the locker looking at his arm; without emotion, Oswald said to Murphy, "I believe I shot myself." 342 He was in the naval hospital at Yokosuka until November 15.343
The Judge Advocate General concluded that Oswald had "displayed a certain degree of carelessness or negligence" by storing a loaded revolver in his locker, but that his injury was incurred "in the line of duty" and was not the result of his own misconduct." 344 He was, however, charged with possession of an unregistered privately owned weapon in violation of general orders. A court-martial followed on April 11, 1958, when Oswald's unit returned from maneuvers, and on April 29 he was sentenced to be confined at hard labor for 20 days, to forfeit $25 per month for 2 months, and to be reduced to the grade of private.345 The confinement was suspended for 6 months, after which that portion of the sentence was to be remitted.346
Five days after Oswald left the hospital, MACS-1 embarked aboard the Terrell County, LST 1157, for maneuvers in the Philippine Islands
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area.347 According to Powers' recollection, the squadron was expected to return to Atsugi after maneuvers were completed, but an international crisis developed; since another operation was scheduled for a few months later, the squadron debarked at Cubi Point (Subic Bay) in the Philippines and set up a temporary installation.348 While he was in the Philippines, Oswald passed a test of eligibility for the rank of corporal; 349 in a semiannual evaluation, however, he was given his lowest ratings thus far: 4.0 in conduct and 3.9 in proficiency.350 The unit participated in exercises at Corregidor, from which it sailed for Atsugi on March 7, 1958, aboard the U.S.S. Wexford County, LST 1168.351 The Wexford County reached Atsugi 11 days later.352
Oswald was court-martialed a second time on June 27, for using "provoking words" to a noncommissioned officer (a sergeant) on June 20, at the Bluebird Cafe in Yamato, and assaulting the officer by pouring a drink on him.353 The findings were that Oswald spilled the drink accidentally, but when the sergeant shoved him away, Oswald invited the sergeant outside in insulting language.354 Oswald admitted that he was rather drunk and had invited the sergeant outside but did not recall insulting him.355 He was sentenced to be confined at hard labor for 28 days and to forfeit $55; 356 in addition, suspension of the previous sentence of confinement was withdrawn.357 He was in confinement until August 13.358 Meanwhile, a previously granted extension of oversea duty was canceled,359 and he was given ratings of 1.9 in conduct and 3.4 in proficiency.360
On September 14, Oswald sailed with his unit for the South China Sea area; the unit was at Ping Tung, North Taiwan on September 30, and returned to Atsugi on October 5.361 On October 6, he was transferred out of MACS-1 and put on general duty, in anticipation of his return to the United States.362 He spent several days thereafter in the Atsugi Station Hospital.363 On October 31, he received his last oversea ratings: 4.0 in both conduct and proficiency.364
Oswald appears generally to have been regarded by his fellows overseas as an intelligent person who followed orders and did his work well, but who complained frequently.365 He did not associate much with other marines and continued to read a great deal.366 Paul Murphy testified that Oswald could speak "a little Russian" while he was overseas.367 Powers believed that Oswald became more assertive in Japan and thought that he might have had a Japanese girl friend.368 He departed from Yokosuka on board the USNS Barbet on November 2, and arrived in San Francisco 13 days later.369 On November 19, he took 30 days' leave.370
On December 22, Oswald was assigned to Marine Air Control Squadron No. 9 (MACS-9) at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro, where he had been briefly before he went overseas.371 He was one of about seven enlisted men and three officers who formed a "radar crew," engaged primarily in aircraft surveillance.372 This work probably gave him access to certain kinds of classified material, some of which, such as aircraft call signs and radio frequencies, was
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changed after his defection to Russia.373 For part of his time at El Toro, Oswald may have been assigned to clerical or janitorial tasks on the base.374 Some of his associates believed rumors,375 incorrect according to official records,376 that he had lost his clearance to work on radar crews; one recalled hearing that Oswald had once had clearance above the "confidential" level and had lost it because he "had poured beer over a staff NCO's head in an enlisted club in Japan, and had been put in the brig." 377
The officer in command of the radar crew, Lt. John E. Donovan, found him "competent in all functions," and observed that he handled himself calmly and well in emergency situations.378 Donovan thought Oswald was not a leader but that he performed competently on occasions when, as the senior man present, he served as crew chief.379 This estimate was generally shared by his fellows, most of whom thought that he performed his assigned duties adequately but was deficient in disciplinary matters and such things as barracks inspection.380 One of them recalled that after a number of bad inspections, the other members of Oswald's quonset hut complained about him and secured his transfer to another hut.381 He was thought to be an intelligent person, somewhat better educated and more intellectually oriented than other men on the base.382 A few of the men thought it more accurate to describe him as someone who wanted to appear intelligent.383 He had a pronounced interest in world affairs, in which he appears to have been better informed than some of the officers, whose lack of knowledge amused and sometimes irritated him; he evidently enjoyed drawing others, especially officers, into conversations in which he could display his own superior knowledge.384
It seems clear from the various recollections of those who knew him at El Toro that by the time Oswald returned to the United States, he no longer had any spirit for the Marines; the attitudes which had prompted his enlistment as soon as he was eligible were entirely gone, and his attention had turned away from the Marines to what he might do after his discharge. While no one was able to predict his attempt to defect to Russia within a month after he left the Marines, the testimony of those who knew him at El Toro in contrast to that of his associates in Japan, leaves no doubt that his thoughts were occupied increasingly with Russia and the Russian way of life. He had studied the Russian language enough by February 25, 1959, to request that he be given a foreign language qualification test; his rating was "poor" in all parts of the test.385 Most of the marines who knew him were aware that he was studying Russian; 386 one of them, Henry J. Roussel, Jr., arranged a date between Lee and his aunt, Rosaleen Quinn, an airline stewardess who was also studying Russian.387 (Miss Quinn thought that Oswald spoke Russian well in view of his lack of formal training; she found the evening uninteresting.388 Donovan, with whom she had a date later, testified that she told him that Oswald was "kind of an oddball.") 389 He read, and perhaps subscribed to, a newspaper, possibly printed in Russian, which his associates connected with his Russian bent.390
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Most of those who knew him were able to recount anecdotes which suggest that he was anxious to publicize his liking for things Russian, sometimes in good humor and sometimes seriously. Some of his fellows called him "Oswaldskovich," apparently to his pleasure.391 He is said to have had his name written in Russian on one of his jackets;392 to have played records of Russian songs "so loud that one could hear them outside the barracks"; 393 frequently to have made remarks in Russian 394 or used expressions like "da" or "nyet," 395 or addressed others (and been addressed) as "Comrade";396 to have come over and said jokingly, "You called?" when one of the marines played a particular record of Russian music.397
Connected with this Russophilia was an interest in and acceptance of Russian political views and, to a lesser extent, Communist ideology. Less obvious to his fellows generally,398 it nevertheless led him into serious discussions with some of them. Donovan, who was a graduate of the School of Foreign Service of Georgetown University,399 thought Oswald was "truly interested in international fairs" 400 and "very well versed, at least on the superficial facts of a given foreign situation." 401 He recalled that Oswald had a particular interest in Latin America 402 and had a good deal of information about Cuba in particular.403 Oswald expressed sympathy for Castro but, according to Donovan, "what he said about Castro was not an unpopular belief at that time." 404 Donovan believed that Oswald subscribed to the Russian newspaper--which Donovan thought was a Communist newspaper--not only in order to read Russian but also because he thought it "presented a very different and perhaps equally just side of the international affairs in comparison with the United States newspapers." 405 Donovan was clear, on the other hand, that he never heard Oswald "in any way, shape or form confess that he was a Communist, or that he ever thought about being a Communist." 406
Private Kerry Thornley described himself as a close acquaintance, but not a good friend, of Oswald, whom he met in the spring of 1959; he later wrote an unpublished novel in which he drew heavily on his impressions of Oswald.408 Thornley generally corroborates Donovan's testimony but thought Oswald definitely believed that "the Marxist morality was the most rational morality to follow" and communism, "the best system in the world." 409 Thornley thought this belief was "theoretical," a "dispassionate appraisal" which did not indicate "any active commitment to the Communist ends"; he described Oswald as "idle in his admiration for communism." 410 He recalled discussions about Marxism in which Oswald criticized capitalism and praised the Soviet economic system.411 Thornley testified that his association with Oswald ended when, in response to Oswald's criticism of a parade in which they both had to march, he said "Well, comes the revolution you will change all that." Oswald, he said, looked at him "like a betrayed Caesar" and walked away.412 Thornley attributed Oswald's decision to go to Russia to a growing disillusionment with the United States, especially its role in the Far East, and a conviction that communism
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would eventually prevail.413 He was surprised by the decision but expected Oswald to adjust to Russian life and remain in Russia permanently
Another marine, Nelson Delgado, met Oswald soon after the latter arrived at El Toro.415 They were about the same age and had similar interests; Oswald enjoyed trying to speak Spanish with Delgado, who spoke it fluently.416 Delgado regarded him as a "complete believer that our way of government was not quite right," but did not think he was a Communist.417 Their discussions were concerned more with Cuba than Russia.418 They both favored the Castro government and talked--"dreaming," Delgado said--about joining the Cuban Army or Government and perhaps leading expeditions to other Caribbean islands to "free them too." 419 Oswald told Delgado that he was in touch with Cuban diplomatic officials in this count; which Delgado at first, took to be "one of his ... lies," 420 but later believed.421
Oswald's interest in Russia and developing ideological attachment to theoretical communism apparently dominated his stay at El Toro. He was still withdrawn from most of his fellows, although his special interests appear to have made him stand out more there than he had at other posts and to have given him a source for conversation which he had hitherto lacked.422 According to several of the witnesses, names like "Ozzie Rabbit" still clung to him; 423 others recalled no nickname or only shortened versions of his real name.424 His reading acquired direction; books like "Das Kapital" and Orwell's "Animal Farm" and "1984" are mentioned in the testimony concerning this period. He played chess; 426 according to one of his opponents he chose the red pieces, expressing a preference for the "Red Army." 427 He listened to classical music.428 For a short time, he played on the squadron football team.429 According to Donovan, who coached the team, Oswald was not very good; he lacked team spirit and often tried to call the plays, which was not his job.430 Delgado thought Oswald was a mediocre player.431 Donovan did not know whether Oswald quit or was thrown off the team.432 He spent most of his weekends alone, as he had at Keesler, and did not leave the post as often as the other men.433 Delgado once rode with him on the train to Los Angeles but separated from him there; Oswald returned to the base after one night.434 Delgado recalls that on another weekend Oswald accepted his invitation to go to Tijuana; they stayed there for one night.435
At the end of January 1959 and at the end of July, Oswald was given his semiannual ratings, scoring 4.0 in conduct both times, and 4.0 and 4.2 in proficiency.436 (The July ratings were repeated in September, when he was transferred from MACS-9 in preparation for his discharge.)437 On March 9, he was promoted as of March 1, to the rank of private, first class, for the second time.438 He took a series of high school level general educational development tests on March 23 and received an overall rating of "satisfactory." His best scores, in the 76th and 79th U.S. percentiles, were in English composition and physical sciences; his worst was English literature, in which he placed in the 34th percentile.439
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In the spring, Oswald applied to Albert Schweitzer College in Churwalden, Switzerland, for admission to the spring term in 1960; the application is dated March 19.440 Schweitzer is a small school, which specializes in courses in religion, ethics, science, and literature. He claimed a proficiency in Russian equal to 1 year of schooling and that he had completed high school by correspondence with an average grade of 85 percent.442 He listed philosophy, psychology, ideology, football, baseball, tennis and stamp-collecting as special interests, and writing short stories "on contemporary American life" as his vocational interest.443 Jack London, Charles Darwin, and Norman Vincent Peale were listed as favorite authors.444 He claimed membership in the YMCA and the "A.Y.H. Association," and said that he had participated in a "student body movement in school" for the control of juvenile delinquency.445 Asked to give a general statement of his reasons for wanting to attend the college, he wrote:
In order to aquire a fuller understanding of that subject which interest me most, Philosophy. To meet with Europeans who can broaden my scope of understanding. To receive formal Education by Instructers of high standing and character. To broaden my knowlege of German and to live in a healty climate and Good moral atmosphere.446
On the basis of these representations, Oswald's application was approved by the college.447 He enclosed a registration fee of $25 in a letter dated June 19, in which he said that he was "looking forward to a fine stay." 448 Few of the other marines seem to have known about this application. He told Delgado, however, that he planned to attend a Swiss school to study psychology, and Delgado knew that some application had been made.449 Another marine, Richard Call, also knew something of his plans.450
Oswald was obligated to serve on active duty until December 7, 1959 (the date having been adjusted to compensate for the period of confinement).451 On August 17, he submitted a request for a dependency discharge, on the ground that his mother needed his support.452 The request was accompanied by an affidavit of Mrs. Oswald and corroborating affidavits from an attorney, a doctor, and two friends, attesting that she had been injured at work in December 1958, and was unable to support herself.453 Oswald had previously made a voluntary allotment of part of his salary to his mother, under which arrangement she received $40 in August, and had submitted an application for a "Q" allotment (dependency allowance) in her behalf of $91.30; one payment of the "Q" allotment, for the month of August, was made in September.454 On August 28, the Wing Hardship or Dependency Discharge Board recommended that Oswald's request for a discharge be approved; 455 approval followed shortly.456 On September 4, he was transferred from MACS-9 to the H. & H. Squadron,457 and on September 11, he was released from active duty and transferred to the Marine Corps Reserve, in which he was expected to
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serve until December 8, 1962.458 He was assigned to the Marine Air Reserve Training Command at the Naval Air Station in Glenview, Ill.459
Almost exactly 1 year later, on September 13, 1960, Oswald was given an "undesirable discharge" from the Marine Corps Reserve,460 based on:
reliable information which indicated that he had renounced his U.S. citizenship with the intentions of becoming a permanent citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Further, that petitioner brought discredit to the Marine Corps through adverse newspaper publicity, which was generated by the foregoing action, and had thereby, in the opinion of his commanding officer, proved himself unfit for retention in the naval service.461
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On September 4, the day on which he was transferred out of MACS-9 in preparation for his discharge, Oswald had applied for a passport at the Superior Court of Santa Ana, Calif. His application stated that he planned to leave the United States on September 21 to attend the Albert Schweitzer College and the University of Turku in Finland, and to travel in Cuba, the Dominican Republic, England, France Germany, and Russia.462 The passport was routinely issued 6 days later.463
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Yep. Got all that. It goes nowhere near proving that Oswald was treated at a naval hospital in Japan while simultaneously on board the Skagit.// Parker
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Yes I see it obviously does show two Oswalds. The Warren Commission even in a memo shows that they have to make adjustment to military data.
see http://harveyandlee.net/Ely.htm In the memo Jenner speaks of the need for "material alteration' in the military record, this is LAWYER SPEAK for LIE.
Yes the Warren Commission record admits to .....FRAUD !!! So Parker basis his military data on .....F R A U... // Gaal
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Steve did get one thing right. The military has it's own mail system and it seems all mail goes via San Fransisco.
That point alone proves nothing in regard to where Oswald was treated between certain dates. It was their claim that "3835" is a code for "Japan". Clearly it isn't because we have NAS 955 also in Japan. NAS simply stands for Naval Air Station. They have been guessing about everything else. It seems to me it is no more complicated than having your home address noted on any other medical paper work. It's up to them to show that it was impossible for Oswald to receive medical treatment on the Skagit for something he was being treated for PRIOR to sailing to Taiwan and immediately AFTER returning to at Atsugi. Otherwise it's just more smoke. // PARKER
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•NAS 3835, Atsugi, Honshu, Japan, 1950-1955 per LAVERICK (not Gaal) see Laverick post http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=303990#######################################################
Navy records show that LHO had numerous clinic visits with the NAS 3835 (Japan) label and at the same time Navy records show LHO is on a 410 mile boat trip to Tawain.
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TWO NAVY OSWALDS the CASE is CLOSED == THANK YOU Mr. Laverick //GAAL
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To redirect a quote you gave me (Gaal),Really Mr. Parker do you even know what NAS stands for ?? // Gaal
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No it isn't. And you all knew damn well it wasn't.
No apologies required...
Attached Thumbnails // LAVERICK
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NO NO NO you are 100 % wrong // GAAL
Japan 3835 (via San Francisco) to Boy Scotts APO 323 US Forces. // GAAL
see https://www.vetfriends.com/units/index.cfm?unit=162789
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U.S. Military Postal Service (MPS)[edit]
MPOs operated or supported by the Army or Air Force use the city abbreviation APO (Army Post Office or Air Force Post Office), while Navy and Marine Corps use the city abbreviation FPO (Fleet Post Office).
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Navy records show that LHO had numerous clinic visits with the NAS 3835 (Japan) label and at the same time Navy records show LHO is on a 410 mile boat trip to Tawain.
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TWO NAVY OSWALDS the CASE is CLOSED == THANK YOU Mr. Laverick //GAAL
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NAS 3835, Atsugi, Honshu, Japan, 1950-1955
Seeing as the H&L club won't provide their links I'll do it for them. Now this could just well prove their point (on this matter at least). I really don't know.// Laverick
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Navy records show that LHO had numerous clinic visits with the NAS 3835 (Japan) label and at the same time Navy records show LHO is on a 410 mile boat trip to Tawain.
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TWO NAVY OSWALDS the CASE is CLOSED == THANK YOU Mr. Laverick //GAAL
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So why not just post links that work to prove your point? Anyone can post a link to a non existent website to back up what they are saying.
Your response is backed up by links to web addresses that no longer exist.
Where is the relevant citation you were asked for to prove your point? Just provide a link, but to an existing address if that's not too difficult.
I bet JA is pulling his hair out in despair at the shoddy quality of his lieutenants in general and Bombardier Steven Gaal in particular!
Where's Hale-Bopp when you need it...? // LAVERICK
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They existed at the time. Proof is Parker commented on one of the photos. Parker said it was mailed to San Francisco with the NAS 3835 number.
Parker didn't understand that the main Navy Pacific Post Office (the military has its own postal system) was San Francisco and said letter NAS 3835 was only C/O San Francisco.
You have never used EBAY I guess ??
These EBAY items were stamped envelopes that were for sale. Links gone because they were sold. BUT Parker himself read an envelope (via link) and commented on it. The envelopes are in some ones collection. (GAAL)
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from the NAVY RECORDS
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 16th officially on boat this is a CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 20 officially on boat this is a CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 22 officially on boat this is a CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 23 officially on boat this is a CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 29th officially on boat this is a CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 30th officially arrived in Taiwan SEPT 30th this is a CONTRADICTION===========================================================================
TWO NAVY OSWALDS the CASE is CLOSED // GAAL
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Line through the name
Obamaand put in Hillary. // GAALsee http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17955
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World War II: “Operation Unthinkable”, Churchill’s Planned Invasion of the Soviet Union, July 1945
By Yuriy Rubtsov
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In late May 1945 Josef Stalin ordered Marshall Georgy Zhukov to leave Germany and come to Moscow. He was concerned over the actions of British allies. Stalin said the Soviet forces disarmed Germans and sent them to prisoners’ camps while British did not. Instead they cooperated with Germans troops and let them maintain combat capability.
Stalin believed that there were plans to use them later. He emphasized that it was an outright violation of the inter-governmental agreements that said the forces surrendered were to be immediately disbanded. The Soviet intelligence got the text of secret telegram sent by Winston Churchill to Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery, the commander of British forces. It instructed to collect the weapons and keep them in readiness to give back to Germans in case the Soviet offensive continued.
According to the instructions received from Stalin, Zhukov harshly condemned these activities speaking at the Allied Control Council (the Soviet Union, the United States, the United Kingdom and France). He said the world history knew few examples of such treachery and refusal to observe the commitments on the part of nations that had an allied status. Montgomery denied the accusation. A few years later he admitted that he received such an instruction and carried it out. He had to comply with the order as a soldier.
A fierce battle was raging in the vicinity of Berlin. At his time Winston Churchill said that the Soviet Russia became a deadly threat to the free world. The British Prime Minister wanted a new front created in the east to stop the Soviet offensive as soon as possible. Churchill was overwhelmed by the feeling that with Nazi Germany defeated a new threat emerged posed by the Soviet Union.
That’s why London wanted Berlin to be taken by Anglo-American forces. Churchill also wanted Americans to liberate Czechoslovakia and Prague with Austria controlled by all allies on equal terms.
Not later than April 1945 Churchill instructed the British Armed Forces’ Joint Planning Staff to draw up Operation Unthinkable, a code name of two related plans of a conflict between the Western allies and the Soviet Union. The generals were asked to devise means to
“impose upon Russia the will of the United States and the British Empire”.
The hypothetical date for the start of the Allied invasion of Soviet-held Europe was scheduled for 1 July 1945. In the final days of the war against the Hitler’s Germany London started preparations to strike the Soviet Union from behind.
The plan envisioned unleashing a total war to occupy the parts of the Soviet Union which had a crucial significance for its war effort and deliver a decisive blow to the Soviet armed forces making the USSR unable to continue fighting.
The plan included the possibility of Soviet forces retreating deep into the territory according to the tactics used in previous wars. The plan was taken by the British Chiefs of Staff Committee as militarily unfeasible due to a three-to-one superiority of Soviet land forces in Europe and the Middle East, where the conflict was projected to take place. German units were needed to balance the correlation of forces. That’s why Churchill wanted them to remain combat capable.
The War Cabinet stated:
“The Russian Army has developed a capable and experienced High Command. The army is exceedingly tough, lives and moves on a lighter scale of maintenance than any Western army, and employs bold tactics based largely on disregard for losses in attaining its objective. Equipment has improved rapidly throughout the war and is now good. Enough is known of its development to say that it is certainly not inferior to that of the great powers. The facility the Russians have shown in the development and improvement of existing weapons and equipment and in their mass production has been very striking. There are known instances of the Germans copying basic features of Russian armament.”
The British planners came to pessimistic conclusions. They said any attack would be “hazardous” and that the campaign would be “long and costly”. The report actually stated:
“If we are to embark on war with Russia, we must be prepared to be committed to a total war, which would be both long and costly.” The numerical superiority of Soviet ground forces left little chance for success. The assessment, signed by the Chief of Army Staff on June 9, 1945, concluded: “It would be beyond our power to win a quick but limited success and we would be committed to a protracted war against heavy odds. These odds, moreover, would become fanciful if the Americans grew weary and indifferent and began to be drawn away by the magnet of the Pacific war.”
The Prime Minister received a draft copy of the plan on June 8th. Annoyed as he was, Churchill could not do much about it as the supremacy of the Red Army was evident. Even with a nuclear bomb in the inventory of US military, Harry Truman, the new American President, had to take it into account.
Meeting Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov, President Truman took the bull by the horn. He made a thinly veiled threat to use economic sanctions against the Soviet Union. (Gee that has a current ring, no ?, GAAL)
On May 8, the US President ordered to greatly reduce the lend-lease supplies [military aid] without prior notification. It went as far as the return US ships already on the way to the Soviet Union back to home bases. Some time passed and the order to reduce the land lease was cancelled otherwise the Soviet Union would not have joined the war against Japan, something the United States needed. But the bilateral relationship was damaged.
The memorandum signed by Acting Secretary of State Joseph Grew on May 19, 1945 stated that war with the Soviet Union was inevitable. It called for taking a tougher stand in the contacts with the Soviet Union. According to him, it was expedient to start the fighting before the USSR could recover from war and restore its huge military, economic and territorial potential.
The military received an impulse from politicians. In August of 1945 (the war with Japan was not over) the map of strategic targets in the USSR and Manchuria was submitted to General L. Groves, the head of US nuclear program. The plan contained the list of the 15 largest cities of the Soviet Union: Moscow, Baku, Novosibirsk, Gorky, Sverdlovsk, Chelyabinsk, Omsk, Kuibyshev, Kazan, Saratov, Molotov (Perm), Magnitogorsk, Grozny, Stalinsk (probably Stalino – the contemporary Donetsk) and Nizhny Tagil. The targets were given descriptions: geography, industrial potential and the primary targets to hit. Washington opened a new front. This time it was against its ally.
London and Washington immediately forgot they fought shoulder to shoulder with the Soviet Union during the Second World War, as well as the their commitments according to the agreements reached at the Yalta, Potsdam and San-Francisco conferences.
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The above post is to clarity what dog vomit is to hygiene.
Has anyone on this planet ever completed reading one of Gaal's posts?
The immense complexities of this entire case are nothing compared to spending half an hour trying to comprehend what on earth he is on about.
It makes this forum look like a debating society for 3rd formers...
Tin Foil Hat High School // LAVERICK
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POST # 290
This whole premise of Armstrong's hinges on NAS Navy 3835 being a Naval Hospital with the 3835 being the code for Japan. Since this assertion is the critical one, it's about time I asked you to pony up with a citation on that. Got one? // Parker
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found that NAS NAVY 3835 is in ATSUGI Japan (GAAL)
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Labour, Tory and Lib Dem MPs had details of expenses deleted from Wikipedia pages
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Found proof yet that "NAS Navy 3835" is a Naval Hospital with the 3835 being the code for Japan? Found proof yet that someone being treated for gonorrhea before and after being on the Skagit could not be treated for that condition on the Skagit?
These are yours and Steve's claims. But your say so, I'm afraid, falls a little short of being probative. You need to pony up with a Navy manual listing those codes and what the mean. // PARKER
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The Two Oswald Phenomena Explained (THREAD) posts # 290, # 292 # 298
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POST # 290
This whole premise of Armstrong's hinges on NAS Navy 3835 being a Naval Hospital with the 3835 being the code for Japan. Since this assertion is the critical one, it's about time I asked you to pony up with a citation on that. Got one? // Parker (GAAL PREVIOUS POST had answer also EDIT of POST above SENT back Japan Oct 5th)
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found that NAS NAVY 3835 is in Japan (GAAL)
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http://www.newspaper...wspage/3277036/
June 4, 1953
Mt. Vernon Register-News from Mt Vernon, Illinois · Page 1====
Pfc. Charles E. Davis of the U. S. Marine Corps, has returned to Japan after a 45-day leave in Mt. Vernon visiting his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Harold Davis of RFD 1. Charles Davis He was stationed at Treasure Island in California for a month before going back to Japan. Pfc. Davis regnlisted for six years. He has served in the Far East for 23 months. He will be serving with a Military Police Co. in Japan. His address is: Pfc. Charles E. M. B., N. A. S. Navy 3835, c/o Davis, 1159222, U. S. M. C, F. P. O., San Francisco, Calif. * * *
. He will be serving with a Military Police Co. in Japan. . His address N. A. S. Navy 3835 ( = JAPAN )
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Navy 3835 ATSUGI Japan 1962 Naval Cover 17008 BR NAS
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NAVY # 3835 ATSUGI, JAPAN 1962 Naval Cover 17008 Br NAS. It was canceled "17008 Br" 3 Apr 1962. It was sent from AG Mullin to IRS in Asheville, NC.
http://www.ebay.com/...S-/231094956196
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TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 16th officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 20 officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 22 officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 23 officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 29th officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 30th officially arrived in Taiwan SEPT 30th CONTRADICTION########################################POST # 292
FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MCAS-1) AUTH: HOOD
X MR/DR ACT.NOTIF.EMER. YES
HOW PATIENT ARRIVED: AMB VIA OTHER/SICK CALL
OFFICER S PR LOCATION: NO LIBERTY CARD DEPENDENTS: NONE
ADMISSION DIAGNOSIS:
1. Within Command-Not Work
2. Patient dropped firearm to the floor and it fired, missile struck patient
in the left arm.
WOUND, MISSILE,UPPER LEFT ARM,NO A OR N INVOLVEMENT (8355)FT 10-27-57
W/M, UPPER LT. ARM #8255 237 D[ischarged] NOV. 15, 1957
10-27-57 USNH NAVY 3923
J-82094 Wd. 5-A
U.S. NAVAL HOSPITAL, NAV. No. 3923
FT 27 OCT 57 DIAGNOSIS: WOUND, MISSILE, UPPER LEFT ARM
GUNSHOT, NO A OR N INVOLVEMENT #8255
1. Within command - work
2. Patient dropped 45 caliber automatic, pistol
discharged when it struck the floor, and missile
struck patient in left arm causing the injury.
NARRATIVE SUMMARY:
This 18 year male acidentally shot himself in the left arm
with a sidearm, reportedly of 22 caliber. Examination
revealed the wound of entrance in the medial portion of
the left upper arm, just above the elbow. There was no
evidence of neurologic circulatory, or bony injury. The
wound of entrance was allowed to heal and the missile
was then excised through a separate incision two inches
above the wound of entry. The missile appeared to be a
22 slug. The wound healed well and the patient was
discharged to duty.
SURG: 10-5-57: FOREIGN BODY, REMOVAL OF, FROM
EXTREMITIES, LEFT UPPER ARM #826.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MCAS-1) AUTH: HOOD ( Message sent from #3835 = JAPAN GAAL)
treated below
U.S. NAVAL HOSPITAL, NAV. No. 3923
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http://philatelyclub...ry_/page_7.html
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Navy 3835 Atsugi, Japan 1962 Naval Cover 17008 Br Nas photo
Navy 3835 Atsugi, Japan 1962 Naval Cover 17008 Br Nas
1 photoNavy 3912 Sasebo, Kyushu, Japan 1951 Naval Cover 13757 Br Korean War photo
Navy 3912 Sasebo, Kyushu, Japan 1951 Naval Cover 13757 Br Korean War
1 photoNavy 525 Exeter, Devonshire, England 1944 Wwii Naval Cover Amphibious photo
Navy 525 Exeter, Devonshire, England 1944 Wwii Naval Cover Amphibious
1 photoNavy 3964 Tacloban, Leyte, Philippines 1945 Wwii Naval Cover photo
Navy 3964 Tacloban, Leyte, Philippines 1945 Wwii Naval Cover
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Served on the following ships: USS LST-802; USS ETLAH (AN-79); USS DURANT (DER-389); USS CHARLES BERRY (DE-1035); USS VANCE (DER-387); USS MCMORRIS (DE-1036); Served at the following Stations: NAVY 3923, Yokosuka, Japan; NAVY 3916, Inchon, Korea;* NAVSTA Long Beach Service Craft; NAS North Island NAVALAIRMAINTTRAGRU; NAVINACTSHIPMAINTFAC San Diego.
ENCS Duane Baumgartner USN-RET <DuaneBaumgartner@2juno.com>
Gold Hill, OR USA - Tuesday, April 16, 2002 at 16:38:21 (CDT) * four digit code equals Navy Stations far East0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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NAVY 3932 Yokosuka Japan
Navy 3964 Tacloban, Leyte, Philippines
Navy 525 Exeter, Devonshire, England
Navy 3912 Sasebo, Kyushu
and of course
Navy 3835 Atsugi, Japan 1962
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the NAVY will send the letters to the right person
Fred Gailey: Your Honor, every one of these letters is addressed to Santa Claus. The Post Office has delivered them. Therefore the Post Office Department, a branch of the Federal Governent, recognizes this man Kris Kringle to be the one and only Santa Claus.
Judge Henry X. Harper: Uh, since the United States Government declares this man to be Santa Claus, this court will not dispute it. Case dismissed.
https://www.youtube....h?v=Dz2YgjSA8Dg
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Links to EBAY and philately club not working ?? Wonder who bought said letters.........accessory after the fact....??
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As for your "suggestions" to watch some xxxxx video, I'll...take it under advisement for when I have a severe need to be banging my head against a concrete wall.
That might be some time. // KNIGHT================================
Below FROM SAME ARTICLE post # 48 >> SEEMS PLAIT is a self proclamed evolution expert (GAAL)
I was also surprised to find Spencer is a big supporter of Intelligent Design. I was initially reticent to mention that, since it seems like an ad hominem. But I think it’s relevant: Intelligent Design has been shown repeatedly to be wrong, and is really just warmed-over creationism. Heck, even a conservative judge ruled it to be so in the now-famous Dover lawsuit. Anyone who dumps all of biological science in favor of provably wrong antiscience should raise alarm bells in your head, and their claims should be examined with an even more skeptical eye.
It’s too bad, really. I’m not a fan of ad hominems, but the recent attacks on the science of climate change, evolution, and the Big Bang by the far right — and on medicine by the far left — make it necessary to know more about the authors when reading articles. If you simply accept what they say without doing due diligence, you may be led down a road that leads well away from reality. // KNIGHT POST
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GAAL
YOUR POST HAD LINK TO ANTI-CREATION RANT.(ABOVE)
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POSTS #1 and #10 are UNREFUTED AND REINFORCE EACH OTHER. TO REPEAT ...if only, if only the people I debate were...intellectually honest. //GAAL
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POST # 10 Design in the Universe https://www.youtube....h?v=N4CgCtV4ixk
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Mr.Knight Please read POST # 1 and see video POST # 10 As an astronomy expert Im sure you can easily refute. (GAAL)=============
UNABLE TO RESPOND THUS KNIGHT CONCEDES GOD EXISTS. // GAAL As an astronomy expert Im sure you can easily refute (GUESS NOT)
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Anthony "I was a TV weatherman" Watts?
Yeah. come back when you're serious, lad. // KNIGHT
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WATTS PUTS UP DATA WHICH I LINKED ,HOWEVER, SEEMS KNIGHT NOT INTERESTED IN INVESTIGATING FACTS HIMSELF BUT KNIGHT PARROTS OBAMA/CLINTON LINE OF GLOBAL WAMING...(GAAL)
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http://oswaldsmother.blogspot.com/2009/11/who-bought-guns.html
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Purchasing the Rifle
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It has long been held that a key piece of evidence in the guilt of Lee Oswald is documentation that he bought a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and the .38 pistol. In his possessions was a found a receipt dated March 12, for the money order he allegedly used to purchase the rifle (no receipts were ever found for the pistol in his belongings). The purchase amount was $21.45. This was for one rifle with a four power scope, but no clip or bullets. The letter had a postmark of 10:30 AM. So, Oswald had a window of 8:30 AM to 10:30 AM to purchase the money order and mail it off.One important fact to remember is Oswald’s post office box was authorized for his name only. He ordered everything under his alias, A. Hidell. Any piece of mail coming to his box with the alias would be marked “addressee unknown, return to sender.” Keep this in mind for as we shall see later, the box plays an important role in Oswald’s acquiring of the weapons.
Another hitch is that Oswald’s work records show he was employed that morning at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovell with no absences. The nearest post office was 11 blocks away. A long walk back and forth for a man with no car. Even more curious is the postmark date has zone 12 listed on it. Zone 12 was roughly two miles away in downtown Dallas. Since it was established that the money order was purchased in zone 3, who would buy a money order at one office and then travel two miles to another one to mail it? Plus, Oswald didn’t have the time even if he had a friend to drive him there and back.
The order arrives at Klein’s Sporting Goods in Chicago the next morning and was sent via Airmail. Very good for pre-FedEx days! Kline’s reportedly deposited the money order in its bank account on March 13. However, under closer inspection the money order is missing many of the bank routing stamps which would show its path through the banking system. Only the endorsement stamp of Klein’s is there; it’s missing the stamps from the First National Bank of Chicago, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and finally, the Federal Postal Money Order Center in Kansas City. None of those three routing stamps are on the back of the money order. The stamps have to be there to show that each bank pays only once, if not you have a mess on your hands. Other money orders that Oswald bought, such as the ones he used to pay off his State Dept. loan, all have these routing stamps. So this is most unusual and never investigated by the Warren Commission, the FBI, or any other agency. It certainly gives weight to the idea that Oswald’s payment never made it through the banking system.
One problem with case and which is largely ignored, was in the spring of 1963 Klein’s only selling the 36” model of the Mannlicher-Carcano. This is clearly shown in ads they had running in various sporting magazines. The rifle found on the sixth floor near the sniper’s nest was a the 40” model. Kline’s was not selling that model in March of 1963.
Adding to that, the FBI went through Klein’s microfilm records and found no sale of a Mannlicher-Carcano with a serial number of C2766 for March of 1963 or any month in that year. They went back a year and never found one sold with that matching serial number in 1962 either. It seems to have disappeared from the inventory.
However, there are several accounting records with the amount of $21.45 listed. One entry is for March, 1963, but another for February 15th. One is listed under the heading, “checks.” But checks are a different type of financial instrument than a money order and should not be listed under that heading. There is also a listing for “other banks” but what banks are those? There is no serial numbers identified for the amount of $21.45. It could be C2766 or somebody else’s order. It should be noted that Klein’s went out of business in 1973 and it’s remaining financial records were destroyed. Also, many accounting records on microfilm disappeared while in FBI custody (Armstrong, p.475).
What is known is Klein’s received a shipment of rifles (carton #3766) and Mannlicher-Carcano, C2766, in that shipment. Also, it was stated by Louis Feldsott, President of Crescent Firearms (wholesaler) in a sworn affidavit to the Warren Commission that he found a record of a sale of a Mannlicher-Carcano, C2766 to Klein’s Sporting Goods, Inc., for June 18, 1962.
Affidavit of Louis Feldsott, President of Crescent Firearms.
June of 1962 is an important date. It’s the same month Oswald, his wife and child, traveled back to the USA from the Soviet Union. His DOD ID card expires that year (sidebar–his mother’s tax returns are sealed from 1956, ending in 1962.). Apparently, one must conclude that somebody created false paperwork to connect Oswald to the rifle, from Klein’s Sporting Goods accounting to bogus money order missing it routing track.
(It should be noted the original money order was found in the National Archives by one of the employees there, Robert Jackson. Jackson was never interviewed by the FBI in regards to how he found it. How it made it there is unknown. Oswald’s receipt was found in his personal possessions but that is suspect because of the all the difficulties already mentioned.)
The Controversy With Post Office Delivery
It’s been implied by some researchers, such as John Armstrong (Harvey and Lee) that Oswald’s P. O. Box was authorized for his name only and any mail arriving with another name, in this case his Hidell alias, would result in a return to sender. This makes getting his gun shipment to him problematic to say the least. The Warren Commission knew this and simply stated in the final report that, “It is not known whether the application for post office box 2915 listed ‘A. Hidell’ as a person entitled to receive mail at this box.” They had the original application, published in evidence volume 19, page 286. While it lists Lee Oswald as the applicant there is no authorization for mail under his name only.There are other issues at play to further complicate this besides the mail box. One of the postal regulations at the time required that anybody purchasing a firearm had to fill out and sign a 2162 form. Not only the buyer but the seller as well. This form was to be kept on file for four years. This form was never found on either end, from buyer or shipper. The FBI never requested it and Klein’s never volunteered a copy. Dallas Postal Inspector Harry Holmes told the Warren Commission that it basically didn’t matter than Oswald could have received the rifle under his alias. Interestedly, Holmes had been monitoring Oswald’s mail for up to a year since he was receiving subversive materials in the mail (i.e., FPCC and other communist literature) but couldn’t tell the Warren Commission that Oswald had received a package with a gun in it. Why didn’t he know? Oswald’s box was basically flagged. Oddly, Holmes apparently never mentioned that Oswald would have to have filled out the aforementioned 2162 form if that were the case.
All indications are that Oswald did not pick up the rifle package at the Post Office in Dallas. There is no paperwork to prove it and no witnesses to the fact.
The Smith And Wesson Pistol
If the weirdness with rifle is not enough, enter the .38 caliber pistol that Oswald allegedly used to kill Dallas police officer J. D. Tippet. Sold from Seaport Traders, Oswald took order of a snub nosed Smith &Wesson .38. Before he could order it he would be required under Texas law to get a “certificate of good character” from either the Justice of the Peace or a District Court Judge. This would be hard to do since he was ordering the pistol under his Alek Hidell alias. Imagine applying for a certificate verifying your character using a phony name! Apparently, he never did. The certificate would have to shown to the shipper before the firearm was released to the buyer.Like the Mannlicher-Carcano, there is not a lot of solid documentary proof that Oswald bought the pistol. There is one invoice (#70638) saying the gun was shipped COD via Railway Express Agency to a A. J. Hidell. This particular invoice is a copy--the original was never obtained by the FBI. It also states that it was shipped to his post office box address which of course can’t be done and was shipped to REA office for pick-up. The FBI could have checked the bank records of both Seaport Traders and REA but never did.
When a shipment would arrive at REA it was common procedure to send a postcard alerting the buyer the gun had arrived. Once again, since Oswald had a post office box authorized in his name only, he would never have seen the postcard. It would have been marked “returned to sender” like his rifle should have been. Researcher John Armstrong looked into this in great detail and found that a phone call would determine if an order arrived at REA. No ID was required to show up and pay the COD charge and retrieve the package. Anybody could have appeared at the office and paid for the pistol.
There are no receipts of any kind that were found in Oswald’s personal belongings. No invoices, no postcard alerting the arrival of the shipment, no receipt for paying of COD charges...nothing. Oswald obtained a leather holster and bullets for it but no receipts for any of those items either.
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In Summary
Here are the major points covered:•Post office box address only authorized for his name Lee Oswald. Anything sent with another name (as the rifle allegedly was) would be marked return to sender.
•Money Order not marked with proper routing stamps proving his path through the banking system.
•Work records at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovell show Oswald was employed at the time the MO was allegedly purchased and mailed.
•No finger prints found on the MO or the order coupon.
•MO eventually found in the National Archives in Washington, DC rather than the final resting place in Kansas City, MO.
•No 2162 form ever found from the buyer or the shipper.
•Oswald ordered the 36” model but apparently possessed the 40” model not for sale at Klein’s Sporting Goods at the time of sale.
•Klein's financial records did not list a sale of a rifle with C2766 in March of 1963 but instead, June of 1962–when Oswald could not possibility have ordered it and spent part of that month out of the country.
•No “certificate of good character” acquired for use in receiving the .38 handgun.
•Both the rifle and pistol are different models than the ones he ordered.
How do we resolve all of this? Evidently, somebody else bought the guns and fabricated a false paper trial linking it all to Oswald. The missing routing stamps on the back of money order indicate that it was most likely never deposited in Klein’s bank account and even the VP of the company could not verify it was deposited. Oswald’s work records show he never left work the morning of March 12 when he is supposed to have mailed the order to Klein’s for the rifle. When means he couldn’t have done it. In regards to the .38 revolver, that is even more murky and nearly undocumented. Only one receipt is in existence and it is a copy. Oswald himself may not have been aware of the set up that was going on behind his back. If he did he never told a soul. The guilty man has been framed once again.------------------------------------------------------------------
Sources: Newman, John, Oswald and the CIA; Armstrong, John, Harvey and Lee; McKnight, Gerald, Breach of Trust; Warren Commission Report; Douglass, James, JFK and the Unspeakable; www.ctka.net (Probe Magazine article archive); www.history-matters.com
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A cult of facts.
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Mr. BALL. What did you see him do after became around the corner?
Mrs. POSTAL. Well, I didn't actually----because I stepped out of the box office and went to the front and was facing west. I was right at the box office facing west, because I thought .the police were stopping up quite a ways. Well, just as I turned around then Johnny Brewer was standing there and he asked me if the fellow that ducked in bought a ticket, and I said, "No; by golly, he didn't," and turned around expecting to see him.
Mr. BALL. And he had ducked in?Mrs. POSTAL. And Mr. Brewer said he had been ducking in at his place of business, and he had gone by me, because I was facing west, and I said, "Go in and see if you can see him," it isn't too much people in there. So, he came and says, well, he didn't see him, and I says, "Well, he has to be there." So I told him to go back and check----we have exit doors, behind--one behind the stage and one straight through, and asked him to check them, check the lounges because I knew he was in there. Well, he just had to be.
Mr. BALL. The last time you had seen him before he ducked in, he was just standing outside of the door, was he?
Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir; he was still just in----just off of the sidewalk, and he headed for the theatre.
Mr. BALL. Were the doors of the theatre open?
Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. It was closed?
Mrs. POSTAL. It was closed.
Mr. BALL. And you didn't see him actually enter the theatre then?
Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You hadn't seen him go by you?
Mrs. POSTAL. I knew he didn't go by me, because I was facing west, and Johnny, he had come up from east which meant he didn't go back that way. He had come from east going west.
Mr. BALL. All right, now what happened after that?
Mrs. POSTAL. Well, I, like----I told him----asked him to check everything.
Mr. BALL. Did you ask Butch Burroughs if he had seen him?
Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir; I told Johnny this, don't tell him, because he is an excitable person, and just have him, you know, go with you and examine the exits and check real good, so, he came back and said he hadn't seen anything although, he had heard a seat pop up like somebody getting out, but there was nobody around that area, so, I told Johnny about the fact that the President had been assassinated. "I don't know if this is the man they want," I said, "in there, but he is running from them for some reason," and I said "I am going to call the police, and you and Butch go get on each of the exit doors and stay there."=============
Mr. BALL. Did you see any struggle or fight between this man and any police officer?
Mr. BURROUGHS. No; not exactly, because I just had one door open and that was the middle door, and I couldn't see them----that was the main thing.Yet you wrote: "Butch Burroughs, who witnessed Oswald’s arrest," // Parker
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Golly he saw a man in cuffs led out by the theater by police. He saw the arrest. Struggle and the placing on of cuff is the only way to talk about seeing an arrest ? ...... that's absurd. //Gaal
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And on and on it goes...
Mr. BALL. They asked you if you had seen a man come in there without a ticket?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did you tell him?
Mr. BURROUGHS. I said, "I haven't seen him myself.Yet according to you and your sources, Burroughs claims to have sold him popcorn, see him jumping from seat to seat, witness his arrest and then witness his double's arrest.
No evolding story? You're kidding? // Parker
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That's right. He didn't see him come in. (SEE ABOVE testimony Postal) Brewer gave the idea to Mrs Postal. Burroughs observes man taken out in cuffs (the arrest) and its the same man who he sold popcorn at 1:15. Of course Burroughs is told to look into theater and then observes man going from seat to seat. // Gaal
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Double Arrest ?? Bernard J. Haire was the owner of Bernie’s Hobby who confirms side door 2nd arrest.
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He (Burrough) said the Dallas Police then arrested “an Oswald look alike.” Burroughs said the second man “looked almost like Oswald, like he was his brother or something.”
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"The Art of the Gouge": NYU as a Model for Predatory Higher Education
Tuesday, 26 May 2015 00:00
By Yves Smith, Naked Capitalism | News Analysis
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Texas kids face criminal charges for inciting a riot - over a food fight
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_70505.shtml
By The Free Thought Project
Blacklisted News
Tuesday, May 26, 2015
A number of students at San Antonio’s McCollum High School were charged with inciting a riot for their involvement in a food fight that took place at the school this Thursday just after noon.
“It was a rowdy food fight. There were plates all over the floor, and corn in the air and some milk cartons as well,” student Adrian Toscano told KSAT-TV.
For some reason, the staff at the school was not able to control the situation, and they ended up calling the police, who came in and arrested ten students for inciting a riot.
“Inciting a riot is because there was 900 kids in the cafeteria when the food fight started. Everybody rushed out, and it caused somewhat of a stampede out there,” district spokeswoman Leslie Garza told KSAT-TV.
Parents should reconsider public schools for a variety of different reasons, but now it has reached the point where sending your children to public school could become a potential liability. Any case of “kids being kids” can quickly escalate to a violent or legally hazardous situation.
As we reported last week, mother and substitute teacher Julie Giles was arrested this week because her son had too many unexcused absences from public school.
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Johnny Depp could face 10 years in prison for taking his dogs to Australia
The Oscar-nominated actor has been threatened with a lengthy sentence after failing to declare his pets when flying to the country
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/26/johnny-depp-dogs-australia-prison
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John Pilger
28th April 2015Australia's deliberate and calculated attacks on its indigenous population carry many of the hallmarks of genocide, writes John Pilger. And things are getting worse, not better, as states that have grown rich by exploiting Aboriginal land evict and demolish remote Aboriginal communities.
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Hackers Expose Cops and Feds as they Browse for Online Sex at the Taxpayer’s Expense
By The Free Thought Project on May 22, 2015
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/hackers-expose-cops-feds-browse-online-sex-taxpayers-expense/
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RT.com
The men behind the screen names “Eaglesfan_6969” and “Verywilling2011” are looking for sex, and they’re doing it from government-provided email accounts, according to data pilfered from a hacked dating website.
A trove of personal information pertaining to paid account holders of AdultFriendFinder, a website that touts itself as letting users “Find a xxxx buddy for online sex,” has surfaced, and its contents suggest employees of local and federal agencies, including law enforcement, the Navy and the Federal Aviation Administration have used their government-provided email addresses to search for partners.
UK’s Channel 4 News confirmed first this week that the website had been hacked and that the information of approximately 3.9 million users had been leaked, including online handles, email addresses and sexual preferences of account holders. Now as that data is perused, new details are emerging that raise questions about what government workers are doing with their official accounts.
Among account holders identified through the leaked details include individuals with emails linked to the United States Department of Homeland Security, the FAA, the government of Augusta, Georgia; the state of Virginia and the Metropolitan Police Department of Washington, DC.
DHS guidelines prohibit employees from using their government email for “Engaging in any activity that would discredit DHS, including seeking, transmitting, collecting or storing defamatory, discriminatory, obscene, harassing or intimidating messages or material.” The Pentagon says in a 2013 report that “Federal Government communication systems and equipment (including Government-owned telephones, facsimile machines, electronic mail, Internet systems and commercial systems when the federal Government pays for use) shall be for official use and authorized purposes only.” There is an exemption in place for “morale and welfare” communications by employees on extended deployments.
One of the account holders is registered with a Navy.mil email address, and the hacked account records reveal that the person logged-on to the dating site from an IP address connected to the Navy Network Information Center in Virginia Beach, VA. A cursory Google search of that person’s name suggests they were a civilian employee of the US Navy who was married as of 2002.
Another member, who was interested in BDSM according to the data, used their official Plano, Texas city email address to open an AdultFriendFinder membership, but connected to the site while browsing from a Starbucks.
On the AdultFriendFinder homepage, the website says it connects users who are “Hoping to meet someone special for a hot, sexual relationship or even just a quick fling” and claims the site “has helped millions of people find traditional partners, swinger groups, threesomes, and a variety of other alternative partners.”
In a statement, the company behind the dating website confirmed they had “been made aware of a potential data security issue and understands and fully appreciates the seriousness of the issue.” Mandiant, a Virginia-based security contractor, is helping them investigate.
Andrew “weev” Auernheimer, a security researcher who was analyzing the data on Friday morning, told RT’s Andrew Blake that revelations concerning the use of government accounts to search for sex shouldn’t be surprising.
“Military facilities should not be so incompetent as to allow their employees to freely browse trash like this on the Internet, it’s a major national security risk,” said Auernheimer. “This just goes to show the decadence and obsoletion of the United States government, a place where even our military bases are filled with men actively searching for whores.”
Earlier this month, a Department of Defense audit revealed that Pentagon employees have been using government credit cards on gambling and escort service. In January, the Washington Times uncovered evidence that an employee with the DoD’s Defense Finance Accounting Service tried to access pornographic websites from his work computers more than 12,000 times during 2014.
RT reached out to several individuals identified in the leaked data and their appropriate press representative, including the public information unit of DC’s Metropolitan Police Department, but has not immediately received comment from the affected parties contacted.
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Africa’s “Second Liberation” against Today’s Neo-Colonialism
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/africas-second-liberation-against-todays-neo-colonialism/5451647
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On Monday March 25, many African Government offices, businesses and banks grind to a halt in order to commemorate Africa Day. In schools up and down the continent, little children are taught that heroic Africans liberated the continent from racist white colonial regimes and various events and parades are held to celebrate the occasion.
Colonialism in Africa is remembered as one of the worst crimes against humanity of the modern era. The exploitative economic system that underpinned colonialism remains alive and well today.
Africa’s liberation was from racist, colonial government. If this was to be the first stage of liberation, than the second stage must involve freeing Africa from the current white minority, who controls the majority of African land and resources.
True African liberation involves three stages: first, the redistribution of land and natural resources from the white minority to the black majority; second, the rejection of the IMF and World Bank’s counter-developmental neoliberal policies; and third, development of mineral refinement capacity.
Under Gaddafi, Libya was a shining example of how Africans can liberate themselves from Western exploitation and enrich its own people.
In 1967 Colonel Gaddafi inherited one of the poorest nations in Africa; however, by the time he was assassinated, Gaddafi had used the three stages of true African liberation to turn Libya into Africa’s wealthiest nation. Libya had the highest GDP per capita and life expectancy on the continent. Less people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.
Gaddafi practiced the redistribution stage of liberation by nationalizing oil wealth to sustain progressive social welfare programs for all Libyans. Prior to Colonel Gaddafi, King Idris let Standard Oil essentially write Libya ‘s petroleum laws. Mr. Gaddafi put an end to all of that. Money from oil proceeds was deposited directly into every Libyan citizen’s bank account. Under Gaddafi’s rule, Libyans enjoyed not only free healthcare and free education, but also free electricity and interest-free loans.
Gaddafi’s greatest crime, in the eyes of NATO, was his desire to put the interests of local labour above foreign capital by adhering to the second stage of liberation and rejecting IMF and World Bank neoliberal policies. In fact, in August 2011, President Obama confiscated $30 billion from Libya’s Central Bank, which Gaddafi had earmarked for the establishment of the African IMF and African Central Bank.
Gaddafi was assassinated by the West at a time when he was embarking on a continental mineral refinement program that would have dramatically shifted the economic balance between Africa and the West.
Gaddafi was willing to financially support any African governments that desired to undergo the redistribution stage of liberation.
The World Bank estimates that a staggering 65 percent of Sub-Saharan Africa’s best arable land is still controlled by white settlers or multinational corporations. The World Bank also estimates that as much as 70 percent of the net wealth in Sub-Saharan Africa is owned by non-indigenous Africans or foreigners.
Nowhere is this racial disparity more acute than in Africa’s richest nation. South Africa is the continent’s most powerful nation, however, it is also the continent’s most economically colonized nation.
The American investment bank, Citigroup, recently ranked South Africa as the world’s richest country, in terms of its mineral reserves, worth an estimated $2.5 trillion. South African Whites and Western foreigners own a staggering 80 percent of this wealth.
Zimbabwe is a prime example of how redistributing African wealth and land is not only desirable in theory but also possible in practice.
At Independence, a staggering 42 percent of Zimbabwe’s land area was owned by just 4,000 white farmers. Today, that land has been divided and redistributed amongst 413,000 Black households. This economic and political shift benefits over 1,000,000 people.
Land redistribution is now possible in all African countries after Zimbabwe’s successful example.
African ownership of African resources is important but exposing and dismantling the financial imperialism, which prevents African economies from thriving is the crucial second stage of African liberation.
Financial imperialism involves Western capitals using the IMF and World Bank to overburden African economies with debt and force their governments to enact neoliberal, counter-developmental policies, such as privatization, austerity and structural adjustment that put the interests of foreign capital over local labour.
Through debt and neoliberalism, the IMF and World Bank exert de-facto control over the economies of many African States. The World Bank and IMF control most African currencies, determine macro-economic policy, and national budgets. The indebted African State is thus left with just its judicial functions and above all, the maintenance of internal public order. This is one crucial State function the Western creditors want nothing to do with.
As Ghana’s founding father Kwame Nkrumah, pointed out, the essence of financial imperialism is that, “the State which is subject to it is, in theory, independent and has all the outward trappings of international sovereignty. In reality its economic system and thus its political policy is directed from outside.”
According to a recent UN Africa Progress Report, Africa loses 63 billion dollars, each year, through foreign multinational corporations’ illegal tax evasion and exploitative practices. This figure surpasses all the money coming into the continent through Western aid and investment.
In Africa, poverty and underdevelopment are the symptoms; debt and neoliberalism are the cancer. The cure is a long-sustained dose of industrialization through mineral refinement.
Mineral refinement is the final stage of true liberation and the much-needed bridge between poverty and industrialization, and therefore, it has the capacity to transform Africa into a developed continent.
Africa is being systematically underdeveloped and overexploited by the West. From oil to gold and diamonds to tobacco, the Western scramble for Africa’s resources has always caused problems rather than created prosperity. Minerals taken from African soil by Western-owned corporations are shipped to Europe or America, where they are turned into manufactured goods, which are then resold to African consumers at value-added prices.
Nigeria imports almost all of its fuel needs; however, it sells its crude oil to “developed” nations, only earning $9 per barrel on their mere royalty fees. Then, Nigeria imports refined gasoline, diesel and kerosene made from its own oil resources for hundreds of dollars per barrel.
Nigeria is the African continent’s largest oil producer. At least $400 billion of oil revenue has been stolen or misspent by Western multinationals, since Independence in 1960, according to estimates by the former World Bank vice president for Africa, Oby Ezekwesili. That is 12 times the country’s national budget for 2014. Nigeria should be wealthy, and its people the envy of Africa; if not the envy of the entire developing world. Instead, 90 percent of Nigerian people live on less than $2 per day.
Zimbabwe is known for producing the best quality tobacco in the world and last year it earned $650 million from the sale of raw tobacco. Industry experts illustrate how Zimbabwe could have earned $6,5 billion instead of $650 million if they had processed the crop into cigarettes, rather than exporting tobacco as a raw good.
The nation earned on average $3,50 per kilogram of raw tobacco but could have achieved $7,30 per kilogram had the tobacco leaf been threshed or processed into cut rag.
If Zimbabwe had further processed the tobacco into cigarettes, it would have earned between $30-60 per kilogram.
Another example of neocolonial resource exploitation of Africa is that of the diamond industry.
Africa produces the bulk of the world market for rough diamonds, which is currently valued at $19 billion annually; while the retail diamond jewelery industry, based in Europe, is estimated to be worth $90 billion.
A rough diamond mined in Africa costs about $40 per carat, and a diamond cut and polished in Europe increases to $400 per carat. The same stone fetches around $900 per carat when it reaches the consumer.
The global value chain of the diamond industry includes exploration, mining, sorting, polishing, dealing, jewelery manufacturing, and ultimately retail. Africa is able to conduct the first three stages but Western multinationals do their upmost to systematically prohibit African nations from mastering the other four value addition stages.
Clearly, Africa is not under-developed; she is over-exploited. From slavery to colonialism to present day neo-colonialism, Western policies have always been that of aggression and exploitation towards Africa. The African continent needs a second liberation to economically empower its indigenous majority who have been marginalized by Western capitals and corporations for centuries.
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Garikai Chengu is a scholar at Harvard University
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POSTS #1 and #10 are UNREFUTED AND REINFORCE EACH OTHER. TO REPEAT ...if only, if only the people I debate were...intellectually honest. //GAAL
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POST # 10 Design in the Universe https://www.youtube....h?v=N4CgCtV4ixk
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OpEdNews Op Eds 5/24/2015 at 22:00:42
Its More Than MonsantoBy Shelly Caref (about the author)
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Yeah, hilariously biased and wrong. POST # 48 Debunked now //GAAL
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Phil Plait
Astronomer
Dr. Philip Cary Plait, also known as The Bad Astronomer, is an American astronomer, skeptic, writer and popular science blogger
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Below FROM SAME ARTICLE post # 48 >> SEEMS PLAIT is a self proclamed evolution expert (GAAL)I was also surprised to find Spencer is a big supporter of Intelligent Design. I was initially reticent to mention that, since it seems like an ad hominem. But I think it’s relevant: Intelligent Design has been shown repeatedly to be wrong, and is really just warmed-over creationism. Heck, even a conservative judge ruled it to be so in the now-famous Dover lawsuit. Anyone who dumps all of biological science in favor of provably wrong antiscience should raise alarm bells in your head, and their claims should be examined with an even more skeptical eye.
It’s too bad, really. I’m not a fan of ad hominems, but the recent attacks on the science of climate change, evolution, and the Big Bang by the far right — and on medicine by the far left — make it necessary to know more about the authors when reading articles. If you simply accept what they say without doing due diligence, you may be led down a road that leads well away from reality.
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Worlds most viewed climate change site (below subsection sea ice area page) = updated within 2 days (GAAL)Whats Up with that ??
http://wattsupwiththat.com/page/4/
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The actual data (SEEMS 1979 to today about same sea ice area) GaalGlobal Sea Ice Area Anomaly
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/
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Cryosphere Today – University of Illinois – Polar Research Group – Click the pic to view at source
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