John Geraghty

Two days ago I visited the Auschwitz and auschwitz birkenau concentration camps in southern Poland.

I could not help but feel that the camps themse;ves could not possibly convey the horrors that once existed there. Even audio visual presentations neglected to show the crimes commited.

I found Birkenau to be a lot more what I expected as I saw the well known railway that stopped inside the camp walls.

The gas chambers were blown up by the germans before the Russians liberated the camps in a last ditch attempt to cover up their crimes.

Have any other members visited any concentration camp and what were their feelings towards them?

John

Hi Adam,

I would advise 'an act of state, the execution of martin luther king' by dr. william pepper as good reading. Have a look at the thread in which myself and mel ayton discuss the king assassination, perhaps read mels book also to get a balanced view of the assassination. www.melayton.co.uk

ciao from krakow.

John

Hi Mel,

Yes it was from Dr.Pepper that I heard of his finances. Perhaps it is best that I don't mention that again.

I shall head to my local library tomorrow and 'bone up' so to speak. There they have 'orders to kill'. 'an act of state' and Gerald Posners book. I shall do a good bit of reading and shall post a few more bits of information etc.

You don't wish to be disrespectful and I agree that you don't, that i why i shall endeavour to take in the case a bit more.

All the best

John Geraghty

Oh Ron,

nobody could sue you.

John

I hope you will be pleased to know that the horniest girl I ever knew was a student at Maynooth.

Im nearly crying with happiness Raymond. The tramps shall be my next project. Does anyone know any good facial experts by any chance. I think I shall look down this avenue. I know Lois Gibson has identified the tramps as Holt, Harrelson, Rogers but I would like to get a second opinion.

John

Mel,

I have learned of Dr.Peppers finances straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

As regards the article that you have posted I fail to see how the Mississippi burning case or the firebombing of 4 churches compare with the magnitude of the king assassination.

Unless you can give me a good reason why Don Wilson would lie and give evidence forward i see no reason to doubt his testimony. How much money could a man really make from providing such a small piece of information about the case, I can't see oliver Stone making a whole film about one man finding documents in a car and not discussing them for 25 years.

I think J Edgar Hoovers branding of Dr.King as a communist has a lot to do with the assassination. It is said that James Earl ray stalked King before alledgedly shooting him, the same could be said of J Edgar Hoover who tapped Kings phone, bugged his rooms and even had an inside man in kings entourage. I would think that the evidence with regards to stalking is stronger against Edgar.

I have yet to read her account of the JFK assassination and who she said it to, The DOJ I presume. I will indeed get back to you when I have read it.

Grouping The assassinations of JFK,MLK and RFK with alien activities at Roswell is irresponsible and ininformed journalism to say the least.

All the best

John

Sorry to direct the thread away from its purpose here.

It mentions that Clay Shaw was in Mexico City at the same time as Howard Hunt and Oswald. This is the first I have heard of this, does anybody have any information or a source for this?

John

Hi Jack,

Some interesting work on the site. I watched some of the videos on the lniks from your site. Some extremely relevant questions asked. To look at the photos that you present was like lookign at a very poorly acted hospital soap opera, it juts had a very fake look to it. There were no major injuries and nobody looked shocked beyond belief.

I will keep viewing the content of your site. Its always important to stay informed, even if I don't have much knowledge of 9/11.#

Cheers

John

Christopher,

Interesting analogy you make. I don't think we will know the identity of these tramps until we have some hard evidence, and not just confessions or confirmations from family members.

As I have written on my website I believe we can choose from the three groups Holt et al, Hunt et al or gedney et al. Take your pick. The gedney group would suggest nothing suspicious, any of the other two groups prove a conspiracy existed.

John

Mel,

You stated that for Pepper to switch from suspect to suspect in search of a shooter would be irresponsible as a historian. He was approaching the case as a prosecutor and not as a historian, so I would therefore think it quite proper of him to narrow the field of possible shooters.

Can you please rationalize why someone such a Dr.Pepper would undertake a case such as this if he did not fully believe in the cause he was fighting for, monetary reward is I'm afraid out of the question as Dr.Pepper did not make much money (it was never his intention to make money out of the case) from the case and spent years of his life working on a somewhat thankless cause.

The King family trust him, as did Martin Luther King himself.

I have seldom found a good response to a question such as this, for example the question as to why Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy and why Ruby shot Oswald.

The same goes for Don Wilson, what was his motive?

Again I ask who was it that hypnotised Grabow, Dr.Pepper or the DOJ?

Could you reread my post where I make reference to J Edgar Hoover and Cointelpro and tell me your take on the situation at the time.

What is your opinion of the King families complicity in fighting for James Earl Rays innocence?

John

As far as I can tell Holt says that he provided documentation for Oswald and says nothing about giving him the leaflets.

He asid that he was present when the leaflets were handed out and when Carlos Bringuer arrived.

John

On another thread somebody provided a link that showed a webcam for dealey plaza. I thought I would post a link for google earth which enables you to look at any street in the world with precise accuracy.

http://earth.google.com/

It is quite excellent. it has the tsbd in 3d, you can navigate around the plaza.

It is quite amazing.

Take a look

John

Raymond,

Many thanks for your comments on the site. I'm actually moving to maynooth College for the next year so that my travel time will be cut.

Ron,

Thanks for pointing out the innaccuracies on the site, I will get on them tomorrow morning. I was always under the impression that Weberman believed that Sturgis was the small tramp, due to the hair.

With regards to Holt, I'm still not sure on the his story, but I am leaning more towards believeing him. As I have said before, I see no reason for Holt to have lied to his daughter karyn on his deathbed about his role in the kennedy assassination. Larry Hancock told me that she presented at a Lancer conference on the evidence her father had produced.

As you know I corresponded with Harrelson and he assured me that Holt was lying. If you take a step back and think who do I believe?, a man who swore to his daughter on his death bed and has CIA details in his possession, or a man who is serving time for the contract murder of a judge.

Its a difficult part of the case, one which my mind is not made entirely up on, but i feel the evidence points towards Holt.

Having said all this relatives of Gedney, Dolye and Abrams all told their family that they were indeed the tramps, so what reason would they have to lie.

I'm going to have a re-think of my tramps page after this discussion and perhaps be a bit more level headed.

The quote from A.J. Weberman is priceless! I also enjoyed the video of Weberman and Hemming talking on his website.

I'm not ready to fully embrace Chauncey Holts story, though I do lean towards it. Perhaps further research into both Mr.Holt and Gedney,Doyle and Abrams would shed some light on the situation.

Cheers again Raymond.

Go raibh maith agat

John Geraghty

Thomas,

The links don't seem to work.

United fruit had as some of its most noted shareholders and board members George HW Bush and Allen Dulles.

John

I agree with the guys that Shanet should stay, I find your work incrasingly interesting and plausible.

John

Hi Barry,

Interesting scenario alright. I recall hearing something along the lines of this before on the net.

Is it a widespread publication or will it be available on the net only?

Cheers

John

p.s. looking for flights for the 6th at the moment, no promises though

I have been reading the testimony of Priscilla Johnson Mcmillan before the NAARB. In it she states that the desk diaries of Robert Kennedy for 1963 could not be located and that telephone messages for 62,63 were not found but resumed in 64.

Has anyone got an explanation for this. If he destroyed them himself I would assume it would be o cover his involvement with the exiles etc.

John

Why are 'Pirates' called 'pirates' ?

They just arrrrrrrr

Jack,

  I found the Armstrong work on the two Oswalds compelling and convincing in its own context.  I still have the printouts and pore over them from time to time.  I don't think it's discussed enough.

  By the way, your picture looks like Ed Asner.  That's not a bad thing.

Have a nice weekend everyone,

JohnG

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Ed Asner played Guy Bannister in JFK the film.

John

Mel,

I enjoyed reading your response. You have been civil to me and so I shall be to you. Apologies for my statements about the lack of detail in your article on crimemagazine.com, I took it to be a chapter from your book, and I'm sure you have the appropriate sources and footnotes in your book.

I'm a relative novice to the King assassination but I have a few things to say which I jotted down while reading your post. Please bear in mind I do not have a copy of 'an act of state' in front of me as I have to read it at my local library.

I believe that Pepper does say that Carthew was in the British National Party and did not simply call him a british nationalist which indeed does not sound as seedy. I think from the fact that Carthew was interested in buying guns we can tell he is not an average political activist.

I somehow don't think that Sid Carthew would be willing to risk perjury by coming forward with this story of his meeting with Raoul just for the sake of helping out a fellow 'racist'. Having said this the BNP puts on a nice face for the public but is essentially a nazi organisation.

With regard to Pepper changing who he believed to have been a shooter, he freely admits this in his book, we can see his gradual process of looking at several possible suspects, which is what is done in any good investigation. The process of elimination is essential.

With regard to the stories about Dr. Peppers past himself, this is the first I have heard of them. You may not agree with what I have to say next but keep an open mind. When I think of the credibilty of a researcher or activist such as mr.peppers being called into question, I tend to think 'who's dirty trick is this'. CIA agent David Atlee Philips admitted to researcher and lawyers Mark Lanes face that he had issued orders for fake stories to be made about him to dent his credibility due to the publicity he was getting over his work on the Kennedy assassination. Lets not forget poor old Jack Anderson who may have been killed had Howard Hunt gotten his way.

I have never heard Glenda Grabows statements with regard to the Kennedy assassination before, did she say this to Pepper, Posner or the department of justice?

As far as I can tell ray never had to spell Raouls name when he associated with him so his spelling of the name is quite irrelevant. Some of my friends whom I have known for years still can not spell my surname.

Have you heard of Gerry Hemmings claim that Raoul was Robert Emmett Johnson who worked in the Dominican republic for Trujillo and others?

Do you know of an online link to the transcripts in the case including the telephone conversation between Grabow and Raoul?

I fail to see what Don Wilsosn motives are for lying about finding the documents and telephone pages. Wilson was retired by the 90'6 and had a business of his own with his wife, I can't remember what the business was i'm afraid, several of his clients received threatening phone calls telling them not to do business with Don, as a result his business took a downturn.

J edgar Hoovers hatred of Martin Luther king and Bobby Kennedy is well known. we know that Martin Luther King was on top of a list of people to be rounded up in case of a national emergency, also the COINTELPRO activities are well documented. There was a policy of assassination by the FBI in relation to black leadership, most notably in halting the black panther movement. Do you believe it is possible that King was marked for assassination by Hoover as he believed him to be a communist? I am asking this even if there was no conspiracy in Kings murder and I'm not trying to make a point, I'm interested in your thoughts on the King-Hoover relationship.

We know that the King family believes in james Earl Rays innocence, we also know that Lloyd Jowers told the king family to their face that he was involved in the operation that killed Dr.King, would that kind of ordeal be worth any kind of money he may have been hoping to get from this publicity? (He received no money as a result of a film or a book deal)

There was no written record of surveillance of Dr.King at the lorraine, I would expect not should they be about to bear wittness to one of the crimes of the century.

Have you had the chance to meet or speak with Glenda Grabow, Don Wilson or William Pepper?

I must ask before I read your book, is it a linear story of how King was murdered by Ray or is it centred around 'debunking' conspiracy theories surrounding the case?

I must say that I am skeptical and unsure of the story of the portuguese man being the Raoul which Ray spoke of. As regards his history, I'm sure you know after researching and coming accross CIA agents and operatives that they have a cover job or story while they are working covertly, I turn to our good friend David Atlee Philips once again for an example how he was working in a public relations firm in Cuba while working for the CIA.

Mel I look forward to some good debate with you. Please stick around the forum

All the best

John Geraghty

Hi John,

You dont have to be a US citizen, please sign it, there are signatures from all over the world. I would like to have a majority of signatures of US citiznes as it is their country!

John

I made this petition a few months ago and it has been dragging along, partly because I haven't advertised it enough. I'm going for an all out signature drive on the internet. Any help would be great, email it to your friends, post it on forums, but most of all SIGN IT. I promise that if you sign it, it will not be left to linger and I will send it to congress with a few thousand names on it, hopefully including most critics of the official account, politicians, members of the kennedy administration, members of the press, government watchdogs and anybody else that wants to help make a difference.

I will hand this peition to every US senator and congressman along with a dvd detailing why the assassination should be reopened.

I know you may think that this will fizzle out, but I'm going to do my best.

DO IT NOW. SIGN IT.

http://www.petitiononline.com/lepopres/petition.html

If anyone knows anybody who has an interest or was directly involved in this case please get them to sign it.

John

It must be well known in the US that Brighton is a huge terrorist target so.

John

I was quite appalled to see that immediately after the attacks all of the major news channels in ireland and britain had economic analysts on talking about how this would effect the market, have we become this greedy that the first thing we think of is "hows my money doing" when something like this happens. Balls to the money, what about the people.

If a bomb does go off in one of these two countries, I would immediately suspect CIA assets of being involved.

Thats quite a statement John, any ideas why they would do this, perhaps to get them to act in Iraq by helping via the UN.

John

Hi Harry,

Do you know anything about the operation of the assassination, what I mean by that is who and how co-ordinated it on the ground level? Would you say that Walker was at the top level of the assassination in that he sanctioned the assassination along with oilmen, weapons manufacturers (suite 8F group possible).

I assume you don't know the identities of the actual shooters and they were known only to the chief planners on the ground.

Cheers

John