William Plumlee Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) Deleted by Mr Plumlee's legal firm Edited December 25, 2007 by William Plumlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time. Afhan is not in South America. Wrong continent. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Gratz Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Aw, come on, Bill, don't be such a nit-picker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Meredith Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 If true I'm very sorry and sad! I'm probably the person on this forum who has had the greatest contact with Plumlee - he and I were once contracted to and working on a book together [that never finally happened..too long a story to go into here/now]. I'll hold off on really grieving until I find if it is true. Tosh told me some months ago he was going to 'be gone for a long time' and indicated he was going underground on some mission....didn't know it was Blackwater...but that sounds possible. He was an excellent pilot and often flew for proprietaries and military supply missions or firefighting etc. I'll try to use my sources and contacts to determine if true. If so, it will be time to release those items I know I have not to date....but Tosh, I hope you are still out there...you were a 'cat with nine lives' and hope you still have a few left....PeterIf this is true, my heartfelt condolances to Tosh's wife, children and rest of family! I considered Tosh a close friend even if we didn't always agree all on details of missions or motives of missions, etc. As a person, Tosh was a very lovely one....it is my belief he tried hard to tell some truths he know he was never supposed to reveal. He kept some other secrets, but that is the nature of his profession and its natural consequences. This is indeed shocking and sad. I was surprised that he has not posted on Tim 's death. If he died Sat that means he and Tim died the same day. I cannot imagine anyone posting that Tosh had passed it it is not true. I spoke with Tosh on the phone not too long ago and he told me he was working on something sensitive that he could not talk about. He was however sincerely concerned with advancingh the truth. I am saddened and speechless... Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 A man who knew too much? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J.Dean Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time. Could it be that all of us who where aircraft pilots had similar thoughts? CHOICE If my plane should fall today If my craft should not stay Up high in the air this day If I should crash and die this way Then recall you heard me say "I would have it no other way" For Tosh, from friend Harry J. Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time. Afhan is not in South America. Wrong continent. BK That's just the kind of mistake Tosh would make. The fact that so many people doubt the veracity of this post says a lot. If he really died (in Afgan, South America...) in the manner stated and some close friend knows him well enough to know he posted some on the forum (but not well enough to know he stopped posting) and also knows his login, then he was working for a monstrous company of mercenaries and criminals and murderers. From CIA to Blackwater. What's in a name? If he didn't really die then this is a despicable (but not uncommon on the internet) stunt, while people are still reeling over the loss of Tim Carroll no less. In fact the timing is rather incredible. It makes me wonder if he got the idea for the (possible) stunt from the thread on Tim. I don't suppose it's possible to get confirmation of this story? What with it being covert and classified and all... Some things never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Drago Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Just a few years before her own passing, Mary Ferrell shared with a small group of researchers her "informed" opinion that Barry Seal was not killed in that airport ambush. You're right, Myra. Few things change in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Drago Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Peter, you also may be aware that TP was working for a time with the daughter of another pilot who disappeared on a covert mission: of the pre-assassination, anti-Castro variety. Are you able to share anything you know about Plumlee's work with the Forgotten Families of the Cold War organization? Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 That's just the kind of mistake Tosh would make.The fact that so many people doubt the veracity of this post says a lot. If he really died (in Afgan, South America...) in the manner stated and some close friend knows him well enough to know he posted some on the forum (but not well enough to know he stopped posting) and also knows his login, then he was working for a monstrous company of mercenaries and criminals and murderers. From CIA to Blackwater. What's in a name? If he didn't really die then this is a despicable (but not uncommon on the internet) stunt, while people are still reeling over the loss of Tim Carroll no less. In fact the timing is rather incredible. It makes me wonder if he got the idea for the (possible) stunt from the thread on Tim. I don't suppose it's possible to get confirmation of this story? What with it being covert and classified and all... Some things never change. Myra, someone could have gotten his computer info very easily: The FBI. It's been proven today that the FBI has been monitoring some people through their own Spyware. Wouldn't Tosh Plumlee be one of the ones the govt is spying on? Maybe everyone on this Forum is being spywared. Anyway, at thecloakofdarkness.blogspot.com I have posted a link and part of the article about the FBI admitting it spies on citizens. The article says what their spyware can find out about you; what it targets. And apparently, it's legal. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Meredith Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 That's just the kind of mistake Tosh would make.The fact that so many people doubt the veracity of this post says a lot. If he really died (in Afgan, South America...) in the manner stated and some close friend knows him well enough to know he posted some on the forum (but not well enough to know he stopped posting) and also knows his login, then he was working for a monstrous company of mercenaries and criminals and murderers. From CIA to Blackwater. What's in a name? If he didn't really die then this is a despicable (but not uncommon on the internet) stunt, while people are still reeling over the loss of Tim Carroll no less. In fact the timing is rather incredible. It makes me wonder if he got the idea for the (possible) stunt from the thread on Tim. I don't suppose it's possible to get confirmation of this story? What with it being covert and classified and all... Some things never change. Myra, someone could have gotten his computer info very easily: The FBI. It's been proven today that the FBI has been monitoring some people through their own Spyware. Wouldn't Tosh Plumlee be one of the ones the govt is spying on? Maybe everyone on this Forum is being spywared. Anyway, at thecloakofdarkness.blogspot.com I have posted a link and part of the article about the FBI admitting it spies on citizens. The article says what their spyware can find out about you; what it targets. And apparently, it's legal. Kathy Myra, Kathy, This is not a hoax. Tim's wife called Tosh when Tim died, left a voicemail, and did not hear back. I also left one today and have not heard back. This is TOTALLY not Tosh. He cared about his friends here and always returned calls. Sometimes he'd just call to say hello, like he did with me about a month ago. Chris told me yesterday that he and Tim talked recently also. I wish this was not true...but...not hearing back from Tosh is completely unlike him. Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 That's just the kind of mistake Tosh would make.The fact that so many people doubt the veracity of this post says a lot. If he really died (in Afgan, South America...) in the manner stated and some close friend knows him well enough to know he posted some on the forum (but not well enough to know he stopped posting) and also knows his login, then he was working for a monstrous company of mercenaries and criminals and murderers. From CIA to Blackwater. What's in a name? If he didn't really die then this is a despicable (but not uncommon on the internet) stunt, while people are still reeling over the loss of Tim Carroll no less. In fact the timing is rather incredible. It makes me wonder if he got the idea for the (possible) stunt from the thread on Tim. I don't suppose it's possible to get confirmation of this story? What with it being covert and classified and all... Some things never change. Myra, someone could have gotten his computer info very easily: The FBI. It's been proven today that the FBI has been monitoring some people through their own Spyware. Wouldn't Tosh Plumlee be one of the ones the govt is spying on? Maybe everyone on this Forum is being spywared. Anyway, at thecloakofdarkness.blogspot.com I have posted a link and part of the article about the FBI admitting it spies on citizens. The article says what their spyware can find out about you; what it targets. And apparently, it's legal. Kathy Myra, Kathy, This is not a hoax. Tim's wife called Tosh when Tim died, left a voicemail, and did not hear back. I also left one today and have not heard back. This is TOTALLY not Tosh. He cared about his friends here and always returned calls. Sometimes he'd just call to say hello, like he did with me about a month ago. Chris told me yesterday that he and Tim talked recently also. I wish this was not true...but...not hearing back from Tosh is completely unlike him. Dawn ****************************************************************** Send my condolences to his wife, mother, and kids. This doesn't look good, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time. Afhan is not in South America. Wrong continent. BK ************************************************************************** "Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time." I saw where he went down in Afghanistan with his co-pilot Tom Walker, in a freak storm, on Saturday. Where did you see mention of South America, in that post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Myra, Kathy,This is not a hoax. Tim's wife called Tosh when Tim died, left a voicemail, and did not hear back. I also left one today and have not heard back. This is TOTALLY not Tosh. He cared about his friends here and always returned calls. Sometimes he'd just call to say hello, like he did with me about a month ago. Chris told me yesterday that he and Tim talked recently also. I wish this was not true...but...not hearing back from Tosh is completely unlike him. Dawn This does sound serious then. And I suppose we'll never know much more than we know today. Well, certain song lyrics come to mind right now... Me and Bill there we both come from Georgia Met Hank out in New Mexico We're bound for Duranqo to join Pancho Villa We hear that he's payin' in gold I guess a man's got to do what he's best at Ain't found nothin' better so far Been called mercenaries and men with no country Just soldiers in search of a war And we're bound for the border We're soldiers of fortune And we'll fight for no country but we'll die for good pay Under the flag of of the greenback dollar Or the peso down Mexico way When this war is over might go back to Georgia And settle down quiet some where I'll most likely pack up and head south for Chile Heard tell there's some trouble down there And we're bound for the border We're soldiers of fortune And we'll fight for no country but we'll die for good pay Under the flag of of the greenback dollar Or the peso down Mexico way Mercenary Song Steve Earle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time. Afhan is not in South America. Wrong continent. BK ************************************************************************** "Hi I am a friend of Tosh's. His brother ask me to post. I do not have all the details, but received word Sunday that he and Tom Walker his co-pilot went down in Afgan Sat. in a freak storm storm. Will give more details when we receive them. The information came from a DEA friend of Tosh's in Houston Texas. Do not know what Tosh was working on but it was said it was a classified "BlackWater " field operation. Thats all we have at this time." I saw where he went down in Afghanistan with his co-pilot Tom Walker, in a freak storm, on Saturday. Where did you see mention of South America, in that post? In the subject line Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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