Charles Drago Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 If that's the sort of fellow you are this should hold your interest for days I had no idea the character of Basil Fawlty was based on a real person. Loosen the bow tie, old chum. It's cutting off the blood supply to the ol' noggin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 My Dear Mr. Miller,You refer to me as an "irrational ... immoral ... joker." You expect -- not without good cause, I regret to note -- that your attacks will be tolerated by the same moderators who take Jack to task for his use of "obscene" language. You and yours no longer are of any interest to me whatsoever. God bless you. Now go away. Charles Drago Charles, you're a drama seeker. To you, the moderators, or anyone else reading this message - if I ever wrote out the 'F' word on this forum, especially in lieu of there already being warnings of the use of improper foul language knowing that minors are using this site, then I expect to be viewed as an irrational - immoral joker who has no regard for the rights of others not to have to be subjected to such trailer trash low-brow gutter talk. And if then they see me trying to defend such behavior, then let them know that I have sunken even lower than previously witnessed. Does that mean I'm a poor excuse for a researcher - no. Does it mean that I'm a poor excuse for a human being - yes. (END OF STORY!) Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 Myra, If you are, as I think you are, trying for something for this November 22, your timing is 'tight' to say the least! The BIG problemo with the whole case is a few thousand of us know minutea that most don't want to know and the many feel there are 'too many strange and unprovable theories out there'....as the Borg has led them to so believe...but we know with some guidance this isn't so. Actually, for as little as about $20 / month one can host a huge website, but then it takes time......for something quick, you'd have to use an established website or websites. There are many others not specifically JFK, but progressive that might also mirror it, if it is good enough and you are good at selling them on the idea. Things are already done as far as material, articles, etc....they might need references and action pointers attached. Mucho work and I'm sure none of the websites you mentioned or didn't want to do anything more than to provide a space, if that. Good luck. I'll help where I can if it seems like a good plan. Ask BK what he's got up his sleeve and if the timing is right. There are associated videos and movies of course. I think there will be huge issues to tackle, like if to associate with 911 or not; other major assassinations or not, etc. I think it can just be a thread on a forum and you can ask the various fora if they would allow it to be mirrored, or at least until if found a 'home'. Just thinking outloud. I also think some websites would not like the idea of excluding people o how and who whould determine who can and who can not be involved? That's the advantage of your own site and domain. But you'd have to purchase some software that [i think] is not cheap nor easy to set up at the get go.....may the force be with you. I agree there's no time to do something for Nov 22 Peter, at least not a newspaper ad. Maybe something more modest. But I wonder when the Bugliosi propaganda-fest mini-series is airing. To try to answer your question, I plan to start a yahoo or google group to discuss strategy. I'll issue invitations to those who express interest, as well as those I hope will be part of it. I will exclude trolls and moles and, frankly, I think it's obvious who they are so I can't imagine that'll be controversial. Beyond that, and discussing both short term and long term strategy and goals, and ideas I've already mentioned, the plan is rather rudimentary. I kept putting it off 'cause I'm short of time right now, but I don't want to put it off any long 'cause I don't want to assume we will always have the internet, in it's present uncensored form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 If that's the sort of fellow you are this should hold your interest for days I had no idea the character of Basil Fawlty was based on a real person. Loosen the bow tie, old chum. It's cutting off the blood supply to the ol' noggin. And I likewise Forrest Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) My Dear Mr. Miller,You refer to me as an "irrational ... immoral ... joker." You expect -- not without good cause, I regret to note -- that your attacks will be tolerated by the same moderators who take Jack to task for his use of "obscene" language. You and yours no longer are of any interest to me whatsoever. God bless you. Now go away. Charles Drago Charles, you're a drama seeker. To you, the moderators, or anyone else reading this message - if I ever wrote out the 'F' word on this forum, especially in lieu of there already being warnings of the use of improper foul language knowing that minors are using this site, then I expect to be viewed as an irrational - immoral joker who has no regard for the rights of others not to have to be subjected to such trailer trash low-brow gutter talk. And if then they see me trying to defend such behavior, then let them know that I have sunken even lower than previously witnessed. Does that mean I'm a poor excuse for a researcher - no. Does it mean that I'm a poor excuse for a human being - yes. (END OF STORY!) Bill Miller Murder and assassination is a nasty business -- Bill, I doubt you could find two people here who care what you post.... so, IF you have to ask the above question, I suggest you're here to promote an agenda, yes? [END OF STORY ] LMAO! p.s. why the boldtype, drama perhaps? Edited October 7, 2007 by David G. Healy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) Murder and assassination is a nasty business -- Bill, I doubt you could find two people here who care what you post.... so, IF you have to ask the above question, I suggest you're here to promote an agenda, yes? [END OF STORY ] LMAO! Oh quite the contrary, David ... I get PM's and emails sometimes thanking me for the time I put into my post. In fact, I think several people mentioned that in some of the more recent threads, so if you want people to care about what you post - try to stay up to date and factual about what you say. Maybe this advice my great grand-pappy use to give folks may be of some help to you. He'd say, "When running a bluff - never smile ... When trying not to be noticed - never sneeze ... and when trying to appear knowledgeable about the JFK assassination films - don't get caught saying you believe in alteration in one post and that you don't believe in alteration in another." And he would also say, "If you ever come across someone who thinks that another person using the 'F' word around minors on a public forum is acceptable, then you now have discovered two people who don't know the difference between right and wrong." Bill Edited October 7, 2007 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 I am willing to work with others to promote wider access to the truth about the assassination.Previously i have posted things about the possibility of coordinated promotion of books like Someone Would Have Talked etc on sites like Amazon and mainstream newspaper sites. Nobody seemed interested, but from the work I did on my own, I found that a little effort, if it was planned stragically, could go a long way. I am currently posting things on twelve different newspaper sites, although none about JFK lately. This method works. The only real time it takes is to register on the sites. After that you can click and paste the same mesage up on twelve sites in two minutes, and get hundreds and often thousands of views. Of course if there were people who frequently responded to these threads the number of views could increase exponentially. To me this seems an obvious course of action, but its seems like so many of the forum just want to talk amongst themselves, as if they have somehow become convinced of the necessary irrelevance of the assassination to the wider population. Perhaps fatalism is comforting for those unwilling to role up their sleeves? That is fantastic Nathaniel. I'm looking forward to working with you on this. And I appreciate your ideas on how to utilize the internet to spread the word (sorry to sound so evangelical, but hey...). BTW, we've had brief discussions in the past--I don't know if you recall--about spreading messages on forums and such and I wanted to mention that I don't post under my first and last name when I do that. So, if you're inclined to assume anything, please don't assume that I'm not following your advice. Sometimes, when not on JFK forums, I use a screen name and sometimes I just use my first name. ...Perhaps fatalism is comforting for those unwilling to role up their sleeves? I'm certain of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 [...]Maybe this advice my great grand-pappy use to give folks may be of some help to you. He'd say, "When running a bluff - never smile ... When trying not to be noticed - never sneeze ... and when trying to appear knowledgeable about the JFK assassination films - don't get caught saying you believe in alteration in one post and that you don't believe in alteration in another." And he would also say, "If you ever come across someone who thinks that another person using the 'F' word around minors on a public forum is acceptable, then you now have discovered two people who don't know the difference between right and wrong." Bill obviously your grand-pappy never got to Las Vegas, nor watch the World of Poker, eh? I suspect he's as aware and knowledgable of the Z-film as you are. ZERO, nil especially if your burst on the JFK-Dealey Plaza assassination scene photo evidence is any indication.... 10,000 posts aside and of course the attending, ghostly email....... Miller if you believe this board is reviewed by those of school children age, and/or minors in general, you're in need of assistance..... LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Miller if you believe this board is reviewed by those of school children age, and/or minors in general, you're in need of assistance..... LMAO! That information was passed along by those who would probably know ... don't you ever read these threads or do you just pop in long enough to post another non-responsive incoherent reply? In fact, I believe I have personally seen a post or two from someone who did claim to be in high school and was doing a research paper. But who would know better - Simkin or you ??? Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Bronstein Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 Myra,Your ideas are worth serious consideration, and I hope that I'll be able to offer worthy responses soon. Until then, you've inspired the following: Why not ask John, Rich, and Debra to form a -- what shall I call it? -- Leadership Forum? I'm thinking of a multi-site, two-stage approach. The Leadership Forum would appear simultaneously on all three websites. Stage One -- Closed to all but the principals. A full and free exchange among the leadership, if you will. Stage Two -- Open to one and all. Each site would provide a moderator. Thoughts, please. Charles My thought is that I really like your idea Charles, and really appreciate your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stapleton Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 My Dear Mr. Miller,You refer to me as an "irrational ... immoral ... joker." You expect -- not without good cause, I regret to note -- that your attacks will be tolerated by the same moderators who take Jack to task for his use of "obscene" language. You and yours no longer are of any interest to me whatsoever. God bless you. Now go away. Charles Drago Charles, you're a drama seeker. To you, the moderators, or anyone else reading this message - if I ever wrote out the 'F' word on this forum, especially in lieu of there already being warnings of the use of improper foul language knowing that minors are using this site, then I expect to be viewed as an irrational - immoral joker who has no regard for the rights of others not to have to be subjected to such trailer trash low-brow gutter talk. And if then they see me trying to defend such behavior, then let them know that I have sunken even lower than previously witnessed. Does that mean I'm a poor excuse for a researcher - no. Does it mean that I'm a poor excuse for a human being - yes. (END OF STORY!) Bill Miller Bill, You're getting a little overheated about the issue of foul language, imo. While I agree that the use of profanity is best discouraged on an academic forum like this, it is commonly seen on many blogs and forums, TV shows and movies. Ever seen "South Park--the Movie"? Foul language is very common among kids. By the age of 12 or 13 many can swear like wharfies. The morality of this development depends on your point of view, but the fact is that it has become commonplace. My point is your savage attacks on Charles are out of line, imo. He is a respected member here, not an 'immoral joker with no regard for the rights of others'. That's an absurd claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kiehl Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Myra.....I'm in for the cost of the ad.....I'm a rookie here...... it just seems nothing is being developed( action taken)...and it has been so long ago.....very bright individuals on board......so why nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) You're getting a little overheated about the issue of foul language, imo. While I agree that the use of profanity is best discouraged on an academic forum like this, it is commonly seen on many blogs and forums, TV shows and movies. Ever seen "South Park--the Movie"? Mark, I'm not getting heated about anything, but rather stating an opinion against something that is plain wrong. I would hope that if you had someone using the 'F' word in front of your children, grandchildren, or even a wife or girlfriend that you have the up-most respect for that you would not just leave them subjected to that ridiculous behavior because of an attitude that because there are people elsewhere that don't know any better than to use it in public, so why not just allow it. (Give me a break!) And no, I have not seen 'South Park--the Movie'. But in it lies the difference in people willingly going to see something that they know has such language in it Vs. someone having it forced upon them. What's next, Thomas ... allow children to be subjected to pornography because it goes on elsewhere. Foul language is very common among kids. By the age of 12 or 13 many can swear like wharfies. The morality of this development depends on your point of view, but the fact is that it has become commonplace. There is an old saying that says there is a time and a place for everything. My point is your savage attacks on Charles are out of line, imo. He is a respected member here, not an 'immoral joker with no regard for the rights of others'. That's an absurd claim. I addressed my thoughts on this and while I respect your right to voice an opinion, I don't respect what you have said. Maybe I am blessed to have aligned myself with friends and acquaintances that do not use such language in public around women and children. Like the scripture says. 'Ye' shall know them, by the fruit they bare.' "if I ever wrote out the 'F' word on this forum, especially in lieu of there already being warnings of the use of improper foul language knowing that minors are using this site, then I expect to be viewed as an irrational - immoral joker who has no regard for the rights of others not to have to be subjected to such trailer trash low-brow gutter talk. And if then they see me trying to defend such behavior, then let them know that I have sunken even lower than previously witnessed. Does that mean I'm a poor excuse for a researcher - no. Does it mean that I'm a poor excuse for a human being - yes." Bill Edited October 7, 2007 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stapleton Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Bill, I assume you'll now be flooded with PM's and E-Mails thanking you for the time and effort you put into THAT post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Bill,I assume you'll now be flooded with PM's and E-Mails thanking you for the time and effort you put into THAT post. I don't think that will happen, Mark. People tend to offer up praise for someone going the extra mile to tell them something they didn't know .... while those same people don't seem to be compelled to praise someone for merely stating something that should have already been common knowledge. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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